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Takeaways from watching at the game:
Ertz runs the offense the best, his passing is inconsistent and I'm still waiting for him to get injured by playing scared.
Hubenor threw the ball the best??
They won't let Delton throw but he is easily the better running qb of the three.
Dimel got a wildcat call and not Delton or hubes.
Silmon and Warmack will be a great 1&2 combo. Barnes look good but he was running against a gassed defense for his yards, he looks slow..
Defense is legit.
Think this team could be a big12 contender if we get consistent qb play and stop being so one dimensional on offense.
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What did you think of our Doak Walker watch list RB?
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What did you think of our Doak Walker watch list RB?
Warmack? Kid is elusive and hides behind the Oline well, somewhat sproles like. Nice explosion at times, will be a great third down, option, pass catching back, but I'm not sure he can handle the full load.
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Charles Jones
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What did you think of our Doak Walker watch list RB?
Warmack? Kid is elusive and hides behind the Oline well, somewhat sproles like. Nice explosion at times, will be a great third down, option, pass catching back, but I'm not sure he can handle the full load.
I've thought Silmon should be our #1 for awhile and think the coaches didn't need to watch him much this game and wanted so see what everyone else can do.
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Charles Jones
I honestly don't care much for him, always dances around and seems to hit the wrong holes.
He has been better this year but I'm way more impressed with our younger guys. We should really be moving on from him.
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Charles Jones
I honestly don't care much for him, always dances around and seems to hit the wrong holes.
That dancing and junk got him on the list tho
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Play calling on defense and offense is still very vanilla. Which is to be expected but I think we are going to crush some Big12 teams this year.
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D-stone's take. We are huge studs that should be #1 this year
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Dimel got a wildcat call and not Delton or hubes.
You do realize why Delton and Hubes don't run the wildcat, right?
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Dimel got a wildcat call and not Delton or hubes.
You do realize why Delton and Hubes don't run the wildcat, right?
Spaghetti and hernias?
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Pringle and Heath on kick returns is a joy to watch. Pringle is fast enough to be the lead blocker he needs. The way they communicated at full speed on the TD return was great.
Heath just flies down the field like a bowling ball rolling downhill. He may get killed, but Christ, he just goes full speed into that defense.
To take a step back, from what I've seen, Pringle is a damn good run blocker.
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D-stone's take. We are huge studs that should be #1 this year
Same take here bud
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Has anyone else noticed that Mike Moore has a "nose" for the ball? Second straight game he has been at the exact right place to scoop up a fumble and get a nice return.
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Also, the trio of Willis, Walker, and Wood are really strong at defending the line of scrimmage laterally. If anyone tries to bounce outside, one of them is usually running someone down.
As long as the starters stay healthy, there's no athletic hole in the defense. This is probably the best across the board defense we've seen in Snyder 2.0, and they're missing an Arthur Brown level defender.
Though Elijah Lee is just a bad, bad man.
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Good stuff. I agree for the most part.
Offense:
RBs: I don't dislike Jones, but I agree with this biggest weaknesses, ie. he often tries to play lateral when its not there and he doesn't seem to have the burst that a few of our younger backs have. Its good to see that we are willing to have a bit of a RB rotation, though I'm thinking Jones and Silmon will get the most reps when games get tight. I really liked Warmack, but he's a spot duty guy to provide change of pace this year. I hope he gets 3-5 touches per game though.
QB: Ertz is an upgrade over last year's Hubes. Its good to see Delton seemingly be at least even with Hubes at #2, if not moving past him. Ertz reminded me a bit of Klein; strong runner, decent speed, okay arm, going to struggle with accuracy. He can lead this team to 6-8 wins.
OL: Looked really good at times, but FAU is pretty bad. Still, opening running lanes and providing decent pass pro (limited opportunities, yes).
WR: Huge upgrade over last year. Burton's holding calls were probably the most frustrating thing, but there is speed and route running ability there.
TE: At least we had a target here, wide open on the deep post on boot, but overthrown.
This will be a much improved offense over one of Snyder's worst from last year.
Defense:
DL: Looked solid, got good push against a bad Oline, stuffed the run for the most part, decent pressure.
LBs: I liked the playmaking ability here. Reggie Walker 2 seemed to be all over, Lee is very good, pleased with their performance.
DBs: Solid in coverage, though did get beat a couple times over the top. Barnett seemed to struggle with tackling the most, but he's still a very good player.
Defense is also a big upgrade over last year.
IMO this team is more athletic and explosive that last year's group. If we avoid major injuries it will be a very fun and solid team to watch that should finish in the upper half of this league, which is probably the worst version of the Big 12 since 04.
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I think what this team has, that may be the swing in a couple of key games, is enough talent across the three phases to really dominate a quarter like they did yesterday.
This team could easily have a couple of games against good competition where the defense forces a three and out, we get a really nice punt return, score a TD, maybe get a turnover, and then convert another TD in short order. I think there's enough there in all three phases that can we can wear some teams down in the mid-to-lower range of this conference.
The weakness of the overall group means all of the home games are pretty winnable, even Texas. I still wouldn't be shocked to see us take two from the OU/Baylor/TCU/WVU set. All of those teams are flawed.
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Kendall Adams and DJamer Reed are studs, and our LB's, DE's and DT's are awesome.
Oline needs work. Burton's penalties seemed bull crap-y
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I think what this team has, that may be the swing in a couple of key games, is enough talent across the three phases to really dominate a quarter like they did yesterday.
This team could easily have a couple of games against good competition where the defense forces a three and out, we get a really nice punt return, score a TD, maybe get a turnover, and then convert another TD in short order. I think there's enough there in all three phases that can we can wear some teams down in the mid-to-lower range of this conference.
The weakness of the overall group means all of the home games are pretty winnable, even Texas. I still wouldn't be shocked to see us take two from the OU/Baylor/TCU/WVU set. All of those teams are flawed.
WVU looks flawed in that they do not have a lot of offensive firepower, which is not good if you're facing our defense.
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Good stuff. I agree for the most part.
Offense:
RBs: I don't dislike Jones, but I agree with this biggest weaknesses, ie. he often tries to play lateral when its not there and he doesn't seem to have the burst that a few of our younger backs have. Its good to see that we are willing to have a bit of a RB rotation, though I'm thinking Jones and Silmon will get the most reps when games get tight. I really liked Warmack, but he's a spot duty guy to provide change of pace this year. I hope he gets 3-5 touches per game though.
QB: Ertz is an upgrade over last year's Hubes. Its good to see Delton seemingly be at least even with Hubes at #2, if not moving past him. Ertz reminded me a bit of Klein; strong runner, decent speed, okay arm, going to struggle with accuracy. He can lead this team to 6-8 wins.
OL: Looked really good at times, but FAU is pretty bad. Still, opening running lanes and providing decent pass pro (limited opportunities, yes).
WR: Huge upgrade over last year. Burton's holding calls were probably the most frustrating thing, but there is speed and route running ability there.
TE: At least we had a target here, wide open on the deep post on boot, but overthrown.
This will be a much improved offense over one of Snyder's worst from last year.
Defense:
DL: Looked solid, got good push against a bad Oline, stuffed the run for the most part, decent pressure.
LBs: I liked the playmaking ability here. Reggie Walker 2 seemed to be all over, Lee is very good, pleased with their performance.
DBs: Solid in coverage, though did get beat a couple times over the top. Barnett seemed to struggle with tackling the most, but he's still a very good player.
Defense is also a big upgrade over last year.
IMO this team is more athletic and explosive that last year's group. If we avoid major injuries it will be a very fun and solid team to watch that should finish in the upper half of this league, which is probably the worst version of the Big 12 since 04.
I also thought Barnett had a bad game. To me, it looked like he decided that he didn't want to get injured playing against a team we were killing. I don't think he will miss those tackles in Big 12 play.
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Didn't we have two true freshman get playing time at WR? Sutton and Harris?
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Didn't we have two true freshman get playing time at WR? Sutton and Harris?
yes which resulted in a fumble and a td being called back. Outside of the fumble harris looked dec
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Dimel got a wildcat call and not Delton or hubes.
You do realize why Delton and Hubes don't run the wildcat, right?
Spaghetti and hernias?
Because they're QBs...
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Dimel got a wildcat call and not Delton or hubes.
You do realize why Delton and Hubes don't run the wildcat, right?
Spaghetti and hernias?
Because they're QBs...
To be fair, Delton's package when he came in the game was pretty much a version of Wildcat, QB run game exclusively.
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I was impressed with Reed's ability to avoid a PI call in his breakup of a solo bomb...not to mention his interception. :ksu:
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Delton could be a nice change of pace in wildcat situations, especially if he can actually throw
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Delton could be a nice change of pace in wildcat situations, especially if he can actually throw
Yes. I hope we put together a package for him. Instead of Jones or someone else, bring out Delton.
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I was impressed with Reed's ability to avoid a PI call in his breakup of a solo bomb...not to mention his interception. :ksu:
His closing speed his really impressive. I guess we know why he is in over Dozier.
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That may be the worst QB that the cats will ever face in the history of football.
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Not if KU plays Cozart!
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Delton could be a nice change of pace in wildcat situations, especially if he can actually throw
Yes. I hope we put together a package for him. Instead of Jones or someone else, bring out Delton.
They're having hard enough of a time finding touches for the five running backs they're using now, I doubt they add another to the mix. Our best tail back of the season so far was getting touches with the third team on Saturday.
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Given Ertz's past knee troubles and how often our coaches want him to run the ball, I think we should try to keep our backup qbs as fresh as possible.
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Delton looked fairly clueless at the los,and during the pass drops that he got sacked.
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So did the oline that didn't block anyone
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Yea, our line got pretty dominated when Delton was in, but he also was clearly very hesitant, which is exactly why he needs more reps instead of less.
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I heard Delton can't learn the playbook - because slow learner. but very athletic.
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from the espn comment section
Sam Karr ESPN's predictions are usually somewhat lousy. Perfect example was last year when they called Florida to score 40 against us. We took them to OT and lost 14-20.
Secondly, FAU fought UM quite tough. Don't be fooled by the 38-10 scoreline. it was 24-10 going into the 4th quarter. I consider this season's UM team superior to Kansas State.
UM has a far better offense than KSU on talent alone, so KSU scoring 38 points against a legit FAU defense (led by a Butkus finalist Trey Hendrickson) is quite a good outing. Now, FAU's offense is very young and is, certainly a weak point on this team. Remains to be seen.
I gave KSU 38 points because I think it will be a higher scoring game, and I give FAU's 20 points because they have a bit of talent on the O, that should get going. This may be the best FAU team in a while.
P.S. Despite a 3-9 record last year, FAU was a very decent squad that did not get blown out by anyone.
bless his heart
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I heard Delton can't learn the playbook - because slow learner. but very athletic.
never the teachers' fault
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Delton could be a nice change of pace in wildcat situations, especially if he can actually throw
Yes. I hope we put together a package for him. Instead of Jones or someone else, bring out Delton.
They're having hard enough of a time finding touches for the five running backs they're using now, I doubt they add another to the mix. Our best tail back of the season so far was getting touches with the third team on Saturday.
Considering the five RBs aren't all that deep -- shades of mediocrity on the entire list -- why not use a Delton package? Assuming he becomes less hesitant with more reps.
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Delton could be a nice change of pace in wildcat situations, especially if he can actually throw
Yes. I hope we put together a package for him. Instead of Jones or someone else, bring out Delton.
They're having hard enough of a time finding touches for the five running backs they're using now, I doubt they add another to the mix. Our best tail back of the season so far was getting touches with the third team on Saturday.
Considering the five RBs aren't all that deep -- shades of mediocrity on the entire list -- why not use a Delton package? Assuming he becomes less hesitant with more reps.
BECAUSE WARMACK WILL TRANSFER :runaway: :runaway:
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Delton could be a nice change of pace in wildcat situations, especially if he can actually throw
Yes. I hope we put together a package for him. Instead of Jones or someone else, bring out Delton.
They're having hard enough of a time finding touches for the five running backs they're using now, I doubt they add another to the mix. Our best tail back of the season so far was getting touches with the third team on Saturday.
Considering the five RBs aren't all that deep -- shades of mediocrity on the entire list -- why not use a Delton package? Assuming he becomes less hesitant with more reps.
Other than Charles Jones, who I like, how in the hell have you determined that the other running backs are mediocre? Is it the sophomore who had four touchdowns in a half, or other sophomore averaging 10 ypc, or the freshman averaging 9 yards a carry?
We have good backs, don't be such a miserable baby. You guys are always laughing at tucks for unquestioning optimism but this race to dismiss anything positive is even more stupid.
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Can we please get Pringle the ball in open space more? He looks athletic as hell at 1:22:47 here.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/7h-t8g47r-0?t=4963[/youtube]
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Can we please get Pringle the ball in open space more? He looks athletic as hell at 1:22:47 here.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/7h-t8g47r-0?t=4963[/youtube]
:love: :love:
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Also, that move by Ertz to avoid pressure. :love:
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Also, that move by Ertz to avoid pressure. :love:
It was really good.
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:thumbs:
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The start of the third quarter there by the offense.
#WOOF :Yuck:
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Also, that move by Ertz to avoid pressure. :love:
It was really good.
Easily his best play that day. The thing that bothers me about watching the replay of the game was the left side of our line was getting taken to task by FAU's d-line for the better part of the game, and that was true on this play, and many more. That being said, Pringle looked very good on that play, and many more and we need to get him the ball more.
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Anyone else besides me watch Pringles breaks? :love:
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Also, that move by Ertz to avoid pressure. :love:
That move was "awareness" (<-- white guy word for athletic)
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Delton could be a nice change of pace in wildcat situations, especially if he can actually throw
Yes. I hope we put together a package for him. Instead of Jones or someone else, bring out Delton.
They're having hard enough of a time finding touches for the five running backs they're using now, I doubt they add another to the mix. Our best tail back of the season so far was getting touches with the third team on Saturday.
Considering the five RBs aren't all that deep -- shades of mediocrity on the entire list -- why not use a Delton package? Assuming he becomes less hesitant with more reps.
Other than Charles Jones, who I like, how in the hell have you determined that the other running backs are mediocre? Is it the sophomore who had four touchdowns in a half, or other sophomore averaging 10 ypc, or the freshman averaging 9 yards a carry?
We have good backs, don't be such a miserable baby. You guys are always laughing at tucks for unquestioning optimism but this race to dismiss anything positive is even more stupid.
Ugh, let me see...b/c they are mostly used in ways that mediocre backs get utilized, that is situation specific...b/c none of them are as good as any of what I'd consider quality backs in Snyder era KSU history (Hickson, JJ Smith, Mike Lawrence, Sproles, D. Thomas, Josh Scobey, hell maybe even Eric Gallon and John Hubert)...b/c the coaching staff feels it necessary to play so many of them.
That being said, I think Warmack has the most upside and if he takes over the reps it'll mean good things are happening. If it is more Charles Jones, that's not a good sign.
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What's Charles Jones career YPC, like 5.0? I don't know how we can sustain an offense with such mediocrity.
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Delton could be a nice change of pace in wildcat situations, especially if he can actually throw
Yes. I hope we put together a package for him. Instead of Jones or someone else, bring out Delton.
They're having hard enough of a time finding touches for the five running backs they're using now, I doubt they add another to the mix. Our best tail back of the season so far was getting touches with the third team on Saturday.
Considering the five RBs aren't all that deep -- shades of mediocrity on the entire list -- why not use a Delton package? Assuming he becomes less hesitant with more reps.
Other than Charles Jones, who I like, how in the hell have you determined that the other running backs are mediocre? Is it the sophomore who had four touchdowns in a half, or other sophomore averaging 10 ypc, or the freshman averaging 9 yards a carry?
We have good backs, don't be such a miserable baby. You guys are always laughing at tucks for unquestioning optimism but this race to dismiss anything positive is even more stupid.
Ugh, let me see...b/c they are mostly used in ways that mediocre backs get utilized, that is situation specific...b/c none of them are as good as any of what I'd consider quality backs in Snyder era KSU history (Hickson, JJ Smith, Mike Lawrence, Sproles, D. Thomas, Josh Scobey, hell maybe even Eric Gallon and John Hubert)...b/c the coaching staff feels it necessary to play so many of them.
That being said, I think Warmack has the most upside and if he takes over the reps it'll mean good things are happening. If it is more Charles Jones, that's not a good sign.
Charles Jones is Eric Hickson, it is amazing how similar they are. Charles Jones may as well be Hickson's son.
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Delton could be a nice change of pace in wildcat situations, especially if he can actually throw
Yes. I hope we put together a package for him. Instead of Jones or someone else, bring out Delton.
They're having hard enough of a time finding touches for the five running backs they're using now, I doubt they add another to the mix. Our best tail back of the season so far was getting touches with the third team on Saturday.
Considering the five RBs aren't all that deep -- shades of mediocrity on the entire list -- why not use a Delton package? Assuming he becomes less hesitant with more reps.
Other than Charles Jones, who I like, how in the hell have you determined that the other running backs are mediocre? Is it the sophomore who had four touchdowns in a half, or other sophomore averaging 10 ypc, or the freshman averaging 9 yards a carry?
We have good backs, don't be such a miserable baby. You guys are always laughing at tucks for unquestioning optimism but this race to dismiss anything positive is even more stupid.
Ugh, let me see...b/c they are mostly used in ways that mediocre backs get utilized, that is situation specific...b/c none of them are as good as any of what I'd consider quality backs in Snyder era KSU history (Hickson, JJ Smith, Mike Lawrence, Sproles, D. Thomas, Josh Scobey, hell maybe even Eric Gallon and John Hubert)...b/c the coaching staff feels it necessary to play so many of them.
That being said, I think Warmack has the most upside and if he takes over the reps it'll mean good things are happening. If it is more Charles Jones, that's not a good sign.
Charles Jones is Eric Hickson, it is amazing how similar they are. Charles Jones may as well be Hickson's son.
Good comparison. Would be enjoyable to see what Jones would do with 5 yard wide running lanes Hickson enjoyed behind much more dominant OL's
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First of all, if you think Silmon is our best RB, you are clueless. He has no vision, cannot block, has no lateral movement and is slow. He runs into defenders instead of thru the hole. He didn't get many carries against FAU not because the coaches know what they have with him, but because he is not very good at all. Watch the Stanford game where he literally goes out of his way to run into a defender being blocked.
Jones tries to be elusive, but it's comical to see him make a move when the defender is still 10 yards down field. He's not fooling anyone.
Lastly, Delton knows the playbook, he is an extremely smart kid. Will be all academic in the conference if not all American. He had to learn a completely new playbook in High School his senior year and had no trouble with it. The coaches even said he ran the offense just fine, as it was those around him that didn't by getting penalties and not blocking.
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Bill just said in an interview that he likes the way Silmon blocks... :dunno:
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If a black quarterback is playing behind a white quarterback it is ALWAYS because the black quarterback could not learn the playbook.
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bl@ck quarterback
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If a black quarterback is playing behind a white quarterback it is ALWAYS because the black quarterback could not learn the playbook.
The dude doesn't need a play book, he will make his own plays. #InDeltonWeTrust :gocho:
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First of all, if you think Silmon is our best RB, you are clueless. He has no vision, cannot block, has no lateral movement and is slow. He runs into defenders instead of thru the hole. He didn't get many carries against FAU not because the coaches know what they have with him, but because he is not very good at all. Watch the Stanford game where he literally goes out of his way to run into a defender being blocked.
Jones tries to be elusive, but it's comical to see him make a move when the defender is still 10 yards down field. He's not fooling anyone.
Lastly, Delton knows the playbook, he is an extremely smart kid. Will be all academic in the conference if not all American. He had to learn a completely new playbook in High School his senior year and had no trouble with it. The coaches even said he ran the offense just fine, as it was those around him that didn't by getting penalties and not blocking.
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Is this Alex Barnes ?
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If a black quarterback is playing behind a white quarterback it is ALWAYS because the black quarterback could not learn the playbook.
I assumed Belvis Noland wasn't serious.
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If a black quarterback is playing behind a white quarterback it is ALWAYS because the black quarterback could not learn the playbook.
I assumed Belvis Noland wasn't serious.
I assumed the same
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Delton could be a nice change of pace in wildcat situations, especially if he can actually throw
Yes. I hope we put together a package for him. Instead of Jones or someone else, bring out Delton.
They're having hard enough of a time finding touches for the five running backs they're using now, I doubt they add another to the mix. Our best tail back of the season so far was getting touches with the third team on Saturday.
Considering the five RBs aren't all that deep -- shades of mediocrity on the entire list -- why not use a Delton package? Assuming he becomes less hesitant with more reps.
Other than Charles Jones, who I like, how in the hell have you determined that the other running backs are mediocre? Is it the sophomore who had four touchdowns in a half, or other sophomore averaging 10 ypc, or the freshman averaging 9 yards a carry?
We have good backs, don't be such a miserable baby. You guys are always laughing at tucks for unquestioning optimism but this race to dismiss anything positive is even more stupid.
Ugh, let me see...b/c they are mostly used in ways that mediocre backs get utilized, that is situation specific...b/c none of them are as good as any of what I'd consider quality backs in Snyder era KSU history (Hickson, JJ Smith, Mike Lawrence, Sproles, D. Thomas, Josh Scobey, hell maybe even Eric Gallon and John Hubert)...b/c the coaching staff feels it necessary to play so many of them.
That being said, I think Warmack has the most upside and if he takes over the reps it'll mean good things are happening. If it is more Charles Jones, that's not a good sign.
Charles Jones is Eric Hickson, it is amazing how similar they are. Charles Jones may as well be Hickson's son.
Hickson way better; not even close
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In what way steffy? Was Hickson faster, better blocker, fumble less? Tell us how much better Eric Hickson was than Charles Jones.
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Hickson seemed a step faster to me than Jones and could beat defenders to the corner more often than Jones does.
I feel Jones failing my eye test of "that should have been a much bigger play than 6 yards" but still putting up similar stats is due to Hickson was running in a conference recruited to stop the running games of Nebraska, Colorado and Oklahoma instead of the spread.
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Hickson seemed a step faster to me than Jones and could beat defenders to the corner more often than Jones does.
I feel Jones failing my eye test of "that should have been a much bigger play than 6 yards" but still putting up similar stats is due to Hickson was running in a conference recruited to stop the running games of Nebraska, Colorado and Oklahoma instead of the spread.
Hickson had the luxury of a better line, better QB play, and better receivers but Charles Jones has managed to accumulate nearly identical stats. If you're being impartial there's only one way to interpret that data.
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Pretty similar. Hickson averaged half a yard more per carry, but the factors you mentioned probably contribute to that. I do think the year he came back from injury (97) he wasn't quite 100% and his numbers would attest to that. Still, to transition from very little QB running game in 94, to a decent amount with Miller in 95, to one of the first spread QB run game offenses in 97 and 98 is pretty significant and his numbers stayed pretty consistent throughout.
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nope, Hickson was faster and made many more big plays than Jones. I would love for him to shove this in my fat face but the fact is the longest carry of Jones career to date is 28 yards. Jones facing defenses recruited to play the spread that are keying on the QB in the zone read are why he has managed to average 5 ypc by getting between 3 and 7 yards at a time.
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iirc hickson sucked terrible ass and mike lawrence (who also sucked) was a monumental upgrade
source: my feelings as a kid on their goodness
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First of all, if you think Silmon is our best RB, you are clueless. He has no vision, cannot block, has no lateral movement and is slow. He runs into defenders instead of thru the hole. He didn't get many carries against FAU not because the coaches know what they have with him, but because he is not very good at all. Watch the Stanford game where he literally goes out of his way to run into a defender being blocked.
Jones tries to be elusive, but it's comical to see him make a move when the defender is still 10 yards down field. He's not fooling anyone.
Lastly, Delton knows the playbook, he is an extremely smart kid. Will be all academic in the conference if not all American. He had to learn a completely new playbook in High School his senior year and had no trouble with it. The coaches even said he ran the offense just fine, as it was those around him that didn't by getting penalties and not blocking.
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You're right, on that Hubener pitch Silmon literally ran right at the defender and lowered his shoulder instead of running through the wide open hole. He could have easily had another five or more yards. I've never seen anything like that before and it convinced me that he shouldn't see the field other than in mop up duty.
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First of all, if you think Silmon is our best RB, you are clueless. He has no vision, cannot block, has no lateral movement and is slow. He runs into defenders instead of thru the hole. He didn't get many carries against FAU not because the coaches know what they have with him, but because he is not very good at all. Watch the Stanford game where he literally goes out of his way to run into a defender being blocked.
Jones tries to be elusive, but it's comical to see him make a move when the defender is still 10 yards down field. He's not fooling anyone.
Lastly, Delton knows the playbook, he is an extremely smart kid. Will be all academic in the conference if not all American. He had to learn a completely new playbook in High School his senior year and had no trouble with it. The coaches even said he ran the offense just fine, as it was those around him that didn't by getting penalties and not blocking.
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You're right, on that Hubener pitch Silmon literally ran right at the defender and lowered his shoulder instead of running through the wide open hole. He could have easily had another five or more yards. I've never seen anything like that before and it convinced me that he shouldn't see the field other than in mop up duty.
:dunno: maybe that guy was talking crap and Silmon wanted to lay the wood.
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First of all, if you think Silmon is our best RB, you are clueless. He has no vision, cannot block, has no lateral movement and is slow. He runs into defenders instead of thru the hole. He didn't get many carries against FAU not because the coaches know what they have with him, but because he is not very good at all. Watch the Stanford game where he literally goes out of his way to run into a defender being blocked.
Jones tries to be elusive, but it's comical to see him make a move when the defender is still 10 yards down field. He's not fooling anyone.
Lastly, Delton knows the playbook, he is an extremely smart kid. Will be all academic in the conference if not all American. He had to learn a completely new playbook in High School his senior year and had no trouble with it. The coaches even said he ran the offense just fine, as it was those around him that didn't by getting penalties and not blocking.
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You're right, on that Hubener pitch Silmon literally ran right at the defender and lowered his shoulder instead of running through the wide open hole. He could have easily had another five or more yards. I've never seen anything like that before and it convinced me that he shouldn't see the field other than in mop up duty.
:dunno: maybe that guy was talking crap and Silmon wanted to lay the wood.
If that is or was the case, then Silmon needs to learn how to lay the wood, because he did not lay the wood on him as he got stood up and taken down. Delton laid more wood on his runs against FAU than Silmon has this year.
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