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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: Mrs. Gooch on September 14, 2016, 02:41:01 PM
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I would like to use Advance Voting, but I might need to wait to make sure Kansas is a lock before casting my vote (i.e. if I vote for GJ).
Can I go ahead and apply for an advance ballot and then decide later whether to use it or just go vote in person?
Can I just turn in my advance ballot at my polling place?
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You could save the trouble and vote for a candidate you actually support?
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You could save the trouble and vote for a candidate you actually support?
Haven't found one yet.
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I mean, if you literally cannot support any candidate on the ballot, I would say not to vote. Now if you just feel stuck because you wanted to vote by party lines and your party's choice isn't palatable, I would say do your research and vote for the person would most like to be president.
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I think it's safe to say that Kansas is a lock.
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Why would Kansas not being a lock impact your decision?
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because hillary is better than trump, but if ks is trump anyway then might as well vote for someone not deplorable
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because hillary is better than trump, but if ks is trump anyway then might as well vote for someone not deplorable
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Vote for someone you don't hate only if your vote doesn't matter.
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I mean, if you literally cannot support any candidate on the ballot, I would say not to vote. Now if you just feel stuck because you wanted to vote by party lines and your party's choice isn't palatable, I would say do your research and vote for the person would most like to be president.
Why are you lecturing another educated adult about how they should vote? She definitely didn't ask and you sound like you're talking to a child.
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Vote for someone you don't hate only if your vote doesn't matter.
Or vote how and for whom you want to, after all that's the point of voting in a democratic society.
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If you got to one of those tents in the poorest part of town they'll register you to vote and fill out an absentee ballot for you. In exchange for your proxy you get your choice of a flip phone or pack of cigarettes. The only shortfall is that you have to vote straight D.
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is the phone connected to service?
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Vote. I am voting more against Hillary than for Trump. Why? Because I believe Trump will not use executive orders to circumvent and destroy the system of checks and balances in the constitution. If this is so, it is then important to vote in good people to Congress who care more about being statesmen than political stars. Also I think Trump supports leaving many decisions at the state level and in the private sector. If so, the election of state and local officials is important. When we don't vote we are like the people who refuse to not vaccinate their kids. Voting protects our liberty.
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I mean, if you literally cannot support any candidate on the ballot, I would say not to vote. Now if you just feel stuck because you wanted to vote by party lines and your party's choice isn't palatable, I would say do your research and vote for the person would most like to be president.
Why are you lecturing another educated adult about how they should vote? She definitely didn't ask and you sound like you're talking to a child.
Because it's a line of thought that most people just accept without thinking for themselves.
And people not asking for my opinion has never stopped me (or anyone) from sharing it in the Pit, especially when it comes to how people should vote.
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Vote for GJ if that's your favorite candidate. If your vote for Hillary somehow helped her win Kansas, the numbers will be so close that our AG will find a way to give it to Trump anyways.
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I mean, if you literally cannot support any candidate on the ballot, I would say not to vote. Now if you just feel stuck because you wanted to vote by party lines and your party's choice isn't palatable, I would say do your research and vote for the person would most like to be president.
Why are you lecturing another educated adult about how they should vote? She definitely didn't ask and you sound like you're talking to a child.
Because it's a line of thought that most people just accept without thinking for themselves.
And people not asking for my opinion has never stopped me (or anyone) from sharing it in the Pit, especially when it comes to how people should vote.
She did think for herself and that's the rationale she decided to go with. Tell me who you're voting for and why you're doing so and I can tell you why that's stupid, its incredibly distasteful to do so though.
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I mean, if you literally cannot support any candidate on the ballot, I would say not to vote. Now if you just feel stuck because you wanted to vote by party lines and your party's choice isn't palatable, I would say do your research and vote for the person would most like to be president.
voting against the worst person is an effective and easy strategy
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She did think for herself and that's the rationale she decided to go with. Tell me who you're voting for and why you're doing so and I can tell you why that's stupid, its incredibly distasteful to do so though.
Was trying to use this inquiry to make a broader point, but if you want to turn it into a roast here goes:
I'm voting for Gary Johnson because I love private prisons.
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I mean, if you literally cannot support any candidate on the ballot, I would say not to vote. Now if you just feel stuck because you wanted to vote by party lines and your party's choice isn't palatable, I would say do your research and vote for the person would most like to be president.
voting against the worst person is an effective and easy strategy
It's not really a vote in that case, but now I'm wondering if any government uses down votes. Like, you can either use your vote to support someone or just to cancel out someone else's vote. Would be pretty interesting, though most likely depressing to see how few people actually believe in the candidate that wins.
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She did think for herself and that's the rationale she decided to go with. Tell me who you're voting for and why you're doing so and I can tell you why that's stupid, its incredibly distasteful to do so though.
Was trying to use this inquiry to make a broader point, but if you want to turn it into a roast here goes:
I'm voting for Gary Johnson because I love private prisons.
I don't want to turn it into a roast, dummy. The point is you shouldn't be behaving like you have all the right answers in this election and talking to adults like you're speaking to a 4th grader based on your own predilections
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I mean, if you literally cannot support any candidate on the ballot, I would say not to vote. Now if you just feel stuck because you wanted to vote by party lines and your party's choice isn't palatable, I would say do your research and vote for the person would most like to be president.
voting against the worst person is an effective and easy strategy
It's not really a vote in that case
:rolleyes:
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Seems like Trump is the lesser of two evils on every issue of importance to me. Your issues may vary.
Foreign policy: could Trump really be worse than the lady who basically made everything she touched worse as SOS?
Rule of law: the very fact that Hillary hasn't been indicted is a massive dick slap to the rule of law. Can't reward that. Oh, and she'll appoint justices who don't give two shits or even one crap about what laws say.
Immigration: sounds like Trump actually wants to enforce our laws - maybe he's full of crap but he certainly can't be worse than Hillary.
Energy: Trump way better on this score
Jobs: see immigration and energy above
Taxes: eff if I know, but Trump can't be worse
Crony capitalism: just look who Wall Street is supporting. Nuff said.
Debt: I don't see how trump could be worse.
Abortion: Trump will appoint better justices than Clinton. Probably. Certainly not worse.
American Exceptionalism: trump actually believes it, for all his faults. I like my president's patriotic. But I'm old fashioned that way.
But again, no matter your politics, rule of law should be a very important issue to you. Libs don't seem to care about this one because shredding laws currently furthers their goals. That won't always be the case. Everyone should care deeply about this one. Hillary is so rough ridin' corrupt I'm surprised she can get out of bed on the morning (oh wait...)
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I like Trump more on energy and taxes. He's worse on all of those other things you mentioned, especially debt. Everything he has proposed so far costs billions of dollars, and his tax plan would cost a ton of revenue.
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She did think for herself and that's the rationale she decided to go with. Tell me who you're voting for and why you're doing so and I can tell you why that's stupid, its incredibly distasteful to do so though.
Was trying to use this inquiry to make a broader point, but if you want to turn it into a roast here goes:
I'm voting for Gary Johnson because I love private prisons.
I don't want to turn it into a roast, dummy. The point is you shouldn't be behaving like you have all the right answers in this election and talking to adults like you're speaking to a 4th grader based on your own predilections
I'm not talking about this election or any particular candidate. I'm saying literally all people who vote in any presidential election should vote for the candidate they think would make the best POTUS. It's a philosophical point, not a political one.
I know the reality is most people just vote for the candidate most likely to win who they fear less, but that is exactly why our election cycles are always so depressing with almost exclusively negative ads. And we get this mentality where each major party's primary directive is to stop the other from accomplishing anything.
Ok, done hijacking this thread now.
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I like Trump more on energy and taxes. He's worse on all of those other things you mentioned, especially debt. Everything he has proposed so far costs billions of dollars, and his tax plan would cost a ton of revenue.
Obama's tax plan has raked in record collections and we're still hemorrhaging red ink. It's the spending, stupid. And while I don't think Trump is a deficit hawk, I don't think you can seriously argue he'd be worse than Hillary. Some of these I expect people to disagree with based on politicos. Whatever. But to suggest that Trump would be worse when it comes to rule of law - wtf are you talking about? Or maybe you're anti-rule of law.
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I like Trump more on energy and taxes. He's worse on all of those other things you mentioned, especially debt. Everything he has proposed so far costs billions of dollars, and his tax plan would cost a ton of revenue.
Obama's tax plan has raked in record collections and we're still hemorrhaging red ink. It's the spending, stupid. And while I don't think Trump is a deficit hawk, I don't think you can seriously argue he'd be worse than Hillary. Some of these I expect people to disagree with based on politicos. Whatever. But to suggest that Trump would be worse when it comes to rule of law - wtf are you talking about? Or maybe you're anti-rule of law.
I'm certainly against enforcing our immigration laws the way Trump wants to. That would cost billions of dollars and cripple the economy. Every time Clinton mentions something she wants to spend money on, Trump's response has been that we need to spend at least twice that, so your head is in the sand if you think he's going to spend less.
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Lol
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Don't worry, Trump will find all that money in wasteful spending.
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The Trump tax plan would create a 0% bracket that extends all the way up to $50,000 for a married couple with no children. The current US tax brackets don't even include a 0% bracket and after deductions and credits, 47% of the country owes no income tax. Under Trump's plan, what percentage do you suppose that would be? 60%? 70%?
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I have no idea what trump's plan is for any of this crap other than making my head spin by how good he is at it
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So is anyone actually going to answer my questions?
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http://www.kssos.org/elections/elections_registration_voting.html (http://www.kssos.org/elections/elections_registration_voting.html)
ADVANCE VOTING
Voting in Kansas is easier than ever. With advance voting, any registered voter can vote by mail or in person before election day.
Advance voting application (Español)
Contact your county election officer to request an application for an advance voting ballot.
Complete the application and return it to your county election officer.
You can have your ballot mailed to you starting 20 days before the election.
You may vote in person in the county election office starting the Tuesday before election day, or up to 20 days before the election, depending on the county.
All ballots must be received in the county election office by the close of polls on election day.
Sick, disabled or Non-English Proficient voters may receive assistance in applying for and casting advance voting ballots.
If you have questions, call toll-free 1-800-262-VOTE (8683).
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it is really incredible how Donald Trump is being touted as the candidate "not in favor of crony capitalism" and "not corrupt."
what a great election.
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http://www.kssos.org/elections/elections_registration_voting.html (http://www.kssos.org/elections/elections_registration_voting.html)
ADVANCE VOTING
Voting in Kansas is easier than ever. With advance voting, any registered voter can vote by mail or in person before election day.
Advance voting application (Español)
Contact your county election officer to request an application for an advance voting ballot.
Complete the application and return it to your county election officer.
You can have your ballot mailed to you starting 20 days before the election.
You may vote in person in the county election office starting the Tuesday before election day, or up to 20 days before the election, depending on the county.
All ballots must be received in the county election office by the close of polls on election day.
Sick, disabled or Non-English Proficient voters may receive assistance in applying for and casting advance voting ballots.
If you have questions, call toll-free 1-800-262-VOTE (8683).
Yeah, I read that page already but I never found anywhere that it told me if I apply for the advance ballot whether that then makes it my only option....i.e. Can I apply for it but then not use it and decide to just go vote at my polling place?
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Based on that, I would think you can just drop off the ballot at the county election office on Election Day if you wanted. Might depend on the county though.
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Being in government comes before crony capitalism. So, we don't know about Trump.
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Nominating your bud to the Supreme Court isn't crony at all
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it is really incredible how Donald Trump is being touted as the candidate "not in favor of crony capitalism" and "not corrupt."
what a great election.
I don't think I said that. I just said that Hill is almost assuredly worse, and you need only look at who Wall Street is overwhelmingly supporting. These are not great choices. You make the best choice with what Mericans gave us.
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wall street hates instability and unpredictability. the don is about as unstable and unpredictable as they come. ksuw thinks those are assets tho
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it is really incredible how Donald Trump is being touted as the candidate "not in favor of crony capitalism" and "not corrupt."
what a great election.
I don't think I said that. I just said that Hill is almost assuredly worse, and you need only look at who Wall Street is overwhelmingly supporting. These are not great choices. You make the best choice with what Mericans gave us.
I mean Donald Trump used his foundation to illegally make a campaign contribution to a Florida attorney general that was going to investigate Trump University and then the attorney general didn't.
I am all for the many allegations that Hillary is not transparent, that she has questionable connections to a lot of people, that she has shown terrible judgement on a number of policy and procedural judgements, but Trump openly brags about crony capitalism and ripping off suckers.
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Actually I think this is much simpler than any of that. Just listen to Donald Trump's "plan" for literally any "proposal."
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/776577571869851648
In June, Trump rebuffed Fox News host Greta Van Susteren’s attempts to extract the details of his "foolproof" plan, explaining, “If I run, and If I win, I don’t want the enemy to know what I’m doing. Unfortunately, I’ll probably have to tell at some point, but there is a method of defeating them quickly and effectively and having total victory.”
At an April rally in Connecticut, Trump said of his strategy for defeating ISIL, "I have a great plan. It's going to be great. They ask, 'What is it?' Well, I'd rather not say. I'd rather be unpredictable."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-isil-isis-227807#ixzz4KNMPNf3W
Lost amid the hoopla of whether Donald Trump and Mexican President Enrique Pena discussed whether Mexico would pay for the wall that Trump wants to build is the simple fact that the GOP presidential candidate’s proposal isn’t a real plan. Trump’s plan is based on a failed understanding of how the banking system works and could never work, as he’s proposed it. Worse yet, if he tried as president to implement the plan, it would have major ramifications beyond just Mexico.
Trump’s initial proposal as to how Mexico will be forced to ‘pay for the wall’ was unwise, unworkable, and displayed an astonishing lack of understanding of how global finance actually works, as I have written in detail before. His proposal, which relies on vague legal authority to force banks to cut off their customers’ access to move their own money around the world, assumes that American banks have the ability to cut off payments from any non-citizen or lawful visitor: they don’t. His plan, if implemented, would essentially shut off the ability for most Americans to send funds to anyone in the world because Trump’s proposal requires them to prove citizenship or legal status to their bank.
http://fortune.com/2016/09/01/donald-trump-mexico-wall-2/ (http://fortune.com/2016/09/01/donald-trump-mexico-wall-2/)
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I say all of this as someone who is voting for Gary Johnson.
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What happens if you move between when you send in your advance ballot application and the election?
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Are you moving within a month?
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Are you moving within a month?
Probably not but I like to be prepared for all possible outcomes.
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What happens if you move between when you send in your advance ballot application and the election?
Vote twice!
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What happens if you move between when you send in your advance ballot application and the election?
Vote twice!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9eL-4F8lFc
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ranked choice voting and send everyone a ballot with a mailing address...those w/o an address can come in and vote for a week....
why aren't we funding this?
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Because republicans want to restrict voting as much as they can legally get away with (and illegally as well)
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I like Trump more on energy and taxes. He's worse on all of those other things you mentioned, especially debt. Everything he has proposed so far costs billions of dollars, and his tax plan would cost a ton of revenue.
Obama's tax plan has raked in record collections and we're still hemorrhaging red ink. It's the spending, stupid. And while I don't think Trump is a deficit hawk, I don't think you can seriously argue he'd be worse than Hillary. Some of these I expect people to disagree with based on politicos. Whatever. But to suggest that Trump would be worse when it comes to rule of law - wtf are you talking about? Or maybe you're anti-rule of law.
:lol:
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Libs did you see where DC want to lower the voting age for president to 16. If you can't get a loan to purchase a toilet because of your age, you should not be allowed to vote. This though fall apart in Alabama where you can marry at 13.
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Libs did you see where DC want to lower the voting age for president to 16. If you can't get a loan to purchase a toilet because of your age, you should not be allowed to vote. This though fall apart in Alabama where you can marry at 13.
can we keep people from voting the last 16 years of their life too?
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i just did this. I just did a quick twitter search for which of the people were MAGA and voted for not them.
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https://twitter.com/MotherJones/status/1191733215884718080
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Insert "but why" Ryan Reynolds meme