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Title: WikiLeaks
Post by: CNS on August 16, 2016, 11:46:26 AM
With the recent past releases of the DNC emails, and promises of future such releases, as well as the below, I think these guys finally deserve their own thread:

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/291565-wikileaks-too-claims-to-have-nsa-code (http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/291565-wikileaks-too-claims-to-have-nsa-code)

Wikileaks posting a free pristine copy of an NSA spyware malware code.   :surprised:

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The auction for an advanced, National Security Agency-linked cyberweapon just became cheaper.

After a day of speculation over whether the previously unknown “Shadow Brokers” could really be auctioning off an authentic stolen copy of the vaunted espionage group’s source code, WikiLeaks announced it would be releasing a free, “pristine” copy.

WikiLeaks — and The Shadow Brokers — claim to have copies of the code behind the Equation Group, labeled “one of the most sophisticated cyber attack groups in the world” when it was discovered last year. The operation went under the radar for 14 years before being discovered, well longer than other known attackers.

Equation is usually described as an NSA team because of similarities between its work and other projects attributed to the spy agency, as well as the use of NSA jargon within the program’s core.

An auction notice by Shadow Brokers placing hacked source code of Equation malware gained wide attention Monday. While inconclusive, files the Brokers released as proof it had the code appeared legitimate enough to pique the security community's interest.
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Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: bubbles4ksu on August 16, 2016, 12:40:44 PM
Do you think WL was founded as a Russian intelligence operation or that it was co-opted?
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: CNS on August 16, 2016, 01:36:30 PM
I don't have info enough to make a decision.

Also,

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2016/08/16/it_looks_like_the_nsa_was_hacked_and_edward_snowden_thinks_it_was_russia.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2016/08/16/it_looks_like_the_nsa_was_hacked_and_edward_snowden_thinks_it_was_russia.html)

More info on the NSA malware with input from Snowden.
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 16, 2016, 03:26:57 PM
Thing is fellas, the NSA may have allowed the "hack".  That's why the NSA doesn't really give an eff about our gov't getting hacked.  They then hack the hackers. 
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: The Big Train on August 16, 2016, 06:58:17 PM
This sounds like some stuxnet knockoff to me
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: renocat on August 17, 2016, 12:48:17 PM
Thing is fellas, the NSA may have allowed the "hack".  That's why the NSA doesn't really give an eff about our gov't getting hacked.  They then hack the hackers.
Sounds.reasonable.
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: CNS on October 07, 2016, 03:22:06 PM
This may belong in the Hill Thread, but White House just formally accused Russia of the DNC email hack and apparently, they are discussing things like economic sanctions or some sort of action against the computer facilities. 

Cold War 2.0?  I mean, just yesterday we formally ended talks with them on Syria.

Also, this apparently ties Wikileaks to Russia.  Maybe that is the plan, who knows.  I doubt we would spit in Russia's face just to discredit anything Wikileaks may release tomorrow regarding Hill, but who knows. 
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: The Big Train on October 07, 2016, 03:26:03 PM
Cyber has been going on for years so this really isn't anything new
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: CNS on October 07, 2016, 03:28:36 PM
Well, yeah, but what is new is that the White House is formally accusing ppl and seem to be ready to set up sanctions and stuff.  That doesn't happen everyday. 
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: star seed 7 on October 07, 2016, 03:29:57 PM
Russia also filed a formal complaint with the United Nations recently because some people have been critical of Trump
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: Gooch on October 07, 2016, 03:37:35 PM
You millennials and Gen X'rs really missed out growing up without the constant fear of nuclear war with Russia. Ahhh the good old days are back.
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: CNS on October 07, 2016, 03:40:46 PM
We may be about to enter a golden era of Dax posting.
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 07, 2016, 03:43:30 PM
One time 6 year old Emo was playing with his friends in West Germany and he swore a Mig 21 flew overhead and freaked out and ran inside and told his dad the Russians are coming and he better put on his BDU's and get to work!  He said no and I flipped and cried a lot.

Yup, the good old days.
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: The Big Train on October 07, 2016, 03:45:42 PM
You millennials and Gen X'rs really missed out growing up without the constant fear of nuclear war with Russia. Ahhh the good old days are back.

Man how old are you :sdeek:
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: star seed 7 on October 07, 2016, 03:54:04 PM
One time 6 year old Emo was playing with his friends in West Germany and he swore a Mig 21 flew overhead and freaked out and ran inside and told his dad the Russians are coming and he better put on his BDU's and get to work!  He said no and I flipped and cried a lot.

Yup, the good old days.

This is how you fanningbrag  :D
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 07, 2016, 03:56:29 PM
One time 6 year old Emo was playing with his friends in West Germany and he swore a Mig 21 flew overhead and freaked out and ran inside and told his dad the Russians are coming and he better put on his BDU's and get to work!  He said no and I flipped and cried a lot.

Yup, the good old days.

This is how you fanningbrag  :D

I mean, we lived in a duplex.
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: The Big Train on October 07, 2016, 04:02:37 PM
So nothing has changed?
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: Gooch on October 07, 2016, 04:06:14 PM
You millennials and Gen X'rs really missed out growing up without the constant fear of nuclear war with Russia. Ahhh the good old days are back.

Man how old are you :sdeek:

aprox this

One time 6 year old Emo was playing with his friends in West Germany and he swore a Mig 21 flew overhead and freaked out and ran inside and told his dad the Russians are coming and he better put on his BDU's and get to work!  He said no and I flipped and cried a lot.

Yup, the good old days.
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 07, 2016, 04:08:28 PM
So nothing has changed?

Rick and Paula, the next door neighbors?  Moved out.  He got drunk, hit her.  Dad says she deserved it for always running her mouth. 

New folks have birds.  That's all I know so far.
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 07, 2016, 04:14:02 PM
Oh man I found it!

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Elmer-Fryar-Ring+78,+86391+Stadtbergen,+Germany/@48.35477,10.8505954,315m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x479ea2d9a64a6ea5:0x1fd2f461656926c9!8m2!3d48.35477!4d10.85169

In my mind's eye that park in the middle was Donald Trump HUGE.  Looking at it now I'm sure TBT could launch a softball right over it (if he weren't crippled).
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: Tobias on October 07, 2016, 04:29:50 PM
west germany existed?  might as well be gooch's brother
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 07, 2016, 04:32:36 PM
Went to a West Germany v USSR footie match once.  We got run 3 nil.  :(
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 07, 2016, 04:35:07 PM
Man my memory sucks, must have been 1-0 (typical soccer game).
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: The Big Train on October 07, 2016, 04:39:38 PM
Could launch a softball over even while crippled :gocho:
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: SdK on October 07, 2016, 05:54:17 PM
One time 6 year old Emo was playing with his friends in West Germany and he swore a Mig 21 flew overhead and freaked out and ran inside and told his dad the Russians are coming and he better put on his BDU's and get to work!  He said no and I flipped and cried a lot.

Yup, the good old days.
When were you there? What unit was your dad in? 85-89 for me.
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: SdK on October 07, 2016, 05:56:19 PM
We had an apartment in Furth. Sister was born in Nuremberg.
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: SdK on October 07, 2016, 05:58:17 PM
Whoops not Furth. We lived on Dusseldorfer Str.
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 07, 2016, 06:02:09 PM
Augsburg, 1st of the 36th
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 07, 2016, 06:02:38 PM
86-90
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: SdK on October 07, 2016, 06:07:36 PM
I forget my dad's unit. But it he drove Oshkosh trucks in Germany and later PLS's and Hets at Ft. Riley.
Title: Re: WikiLeaks
Post by: SdK on October 07, 2016, 06:09:23 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20161007%2F460caf743bdcc105d1686e57291a2e38.jpg&hash=6b14b56c91492aa54a6ba1a022e1d0dfc49e3c9c)

Young SdK and his dad in East Berlin