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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: renocat on May 14, 2016, 07:47:48 AM
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He is the first sitting President to visit Hiroshima. To me his actions say we admit we are war criminals and apologize for beating you. It don't help when old lurch Kerry afer touring the Hiroshima museum says this is "gut wrenching". He and Kerry just as well piss on a grave at Arlington Cemetery, spit on the flag, or crap on Bob Dole.
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That's called a victory lap son.
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Reno, do you believe what you post?
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We should have taken a known socialist's advice and not dropped the bomb. (he has a museum down the road from MHK)
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Dropping the bomb was necessary but acknowledging how awful it was isn't a problem.
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Yeah Ike was totally against dropping the bomb
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So much death and destruction at the hands of (D) presidents.
Truman (who owed his political career to voter fraud) then turns around and sends another 50000 Americans off to die in Korea, and then signs off on the CIA and NSA.
Then the next two Dems (who also won elections with the help of voter fraud in their ascent to power and owned by corporate interests like Brown and Root aka Haliburton in the case of Johnson) sent another 50000 Americans off to die in SE Asia.
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So much death and destruction at the hands of (D) presidents.
Truman (who owed his political career to voter fraud) then turns around and sends another 50000 Americans off to die in Korea, and then signs off on the CIA and NSA.
Then the next two Dems (who also won elections with the help of voter fraud in their ascent to power and owned by corporate interests like Brown and Root aka Haliburton in the case of Johnson) sent another 50000 Americans off to die in SE Asia.
:lol:
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LBJ Voter Fraud:
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/11/us/how-johnson-won-election-he-d-lost.html
LBJ Brown and Root:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.npr.org%2Fprograms%2Fatc%2Ffeatures%2F2003%2Fdec%2Fhalliburton%2Flbj_george-afbc335d85ea917a0edd8aafe2b92b19eb0dbb63-s400-c85.jpg&hash=d4d7287ba90bc692f40a8970b437795346736ebe)
Brown & Root co-founder George Brown (left) with President Lyndon B. Johnson. LBJ's ties to the Brown brothers dated back to his days as a Texas congressman.
lib = idiot so, sad.
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So much death and destruction at the hands of (D) presidents.
Truman (who owed his political career to voter fraud) then turns around and sends another 50000 Americans off to die in Korea, and then signs off on the CIA and NSA.
Then the next two Dems (who also won elections with the help of voter fraud in their ascent to power and owned by corporate interests like Brown and Root aka Haliburton in the case of Johnson) sent another 50000 Americans off to die in SE Asia.
You forgot about Wilson...getting us into WW1.
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Listening to libtards bitch about Haliburton is hilarious given the fact that JFK and LBJ essentially built that corporation into the monster it is.
They are so rough ridin' ignorant
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LBJ Voter Fraud:
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/11/us/how-johnson-won-election-he-d-lost.html
LBJ Brown and Root:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.npr.org%2Fprograms%2Fatc%2Ffeatures%2F2003%2Fdec%2Fhalliburton%2Flbj_george-afbc335d85ea917a0edd8aafe2b92b19eb0dbb63-s400-c85.jpg&hash=d4d7287ba90bc692f40a8970b437795346736ebe)
Brown & Root co-founder George Brown (left) with President Lyndon B. Johnson. LBJ's ties to the Brown brothers dated back to his days as a Texas congressman.
lib = idiot so, sad.
:lol:
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I never would have pegged lib7 as a Vietnam War zealot
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Dropping the bomb was necessary but acknowledging how awful it was isn't a problem.
Debateable now.
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Dropping the bomb was necessary but acknowledging how awful it was isn't a problem.
Debateable now.
Not really
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Dropping the bomb was necessary but acknowledging how awful it was isn't a problem.
Debateable now.
Not really
It's totally debatable
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With historical fact as the backdrop it's astonishing at how many millions have been killed by the decisions of (D) presidents, sadly massive partisans like lib think it's funny. So, sad.
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Yes, very sad dax. Thank holy flying spaghetti monster only democrat presidents kill people
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Also it's a good thing dax isn't a partisan
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The thing in the article I read this that stripped my gears was some Japanese group demanding.Obama admitting the big kablooy was a war crime and we should apologize. More people in Japan were killed in the fire bombing of Tokyo. Another beef. Who is going to be afraid of a president who is adamant about never using nuclear bombs. If a hostile nation knows hell unleashed will never hit them, they will attack America at will. Finally, if these bombs are so horrible Mr. BO why did you sign an agreement to let Iran have them to use on Israel x Europe and us? Also lazy millennials need to have a visit with a WWII before they croak.
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Get Nihon out yo mouth
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Nips coulda surrendered at anytime after they lost the Marianas
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The extreme partisans on this board who claim not to be partisan seem to have trouble at times. I never said R's didn't kill people, but gosh golly, the pile of bodies, particularly American bodies left behind by D's dwarfs that of R's.
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The extreme partisans on this board who claim not to be partisan seem to have trouble at times. I never said R's didn't kill people, but gosh golly, the pile of bodies, particularly American bodies left behind by D's dwarfs that of R's.
pfft. Glass houses, etc.
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This thread doesnt even make any sense Obama didn't even have anything to do with wwii he wasnt even alive back then during hiroshima
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The extreme partisans on this board who claim not to be partisan seem to have trouble at times. I never said R's didn't kill people, but gosh golly, the pile of bodies, particularly American bodies left behind by D's dwarfs that of R's.
Reno's ignored post notwithstanding you are the sole person that made this and continue to make this particular thread a partisan one. It's super weird that you fight something that's so completely obvious. Do you think we'll think less of you for admitting something we all already know? Of all of the people on this board who are "extreme partisans," whatever the hell that means, you're the only one not willing to admit it.
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Dropping the bomb was necessary but acknowledging how awful it was isn't a problem.
Debateable now.
Not really
Actually it really is. See everything from the info that was blocked for the Smithsonian's Enola Gay exhibit a few years ago, to info about the perceptions of Russian involvement in theater or showing them the force of the new toy.
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Dropping the bomb was necessary but acknowledging how awful it was isn't a problem.
Debateable now.
Not really
Actually it really is. See everything from the info that was blocked for the Smithsonian's Enola Gay exhibit a few years ago, to info about the perceptions of Russian involvement in theater or showing them the force of the new toy.
Uh no. If the US had to invade mainland Japan, it would have made Stalingrad look like a school yard.
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Uh no. If the US had to invade mainland Japan, it would have made Stalingrad look like a school yard.
True or not, this is exactly how someone would try to maintain moral justification for committing a war crime. Not entirely different from how folks try to justify torture.
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michigancat are you saying you believe the bomb was a war crime? :sdeek:
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michigancat are you saying you believe the bomb was a war crime? :sdeek:
No, I shouldn't have insinuated that.
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Uh no. If the US had to invade mainland Japan, it would have made Stalingrad look like a school yard.
True or not, this is exactly how someone would try to maintain moral justification for committing a war crime. Not entirely different from how folks try to justify torture.
You mean like hiding behind stopping "ethnic cleansing"?
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Dropping the bomb was necessary but acknowledging how awful it was isn't a problem.
Debateable now.
Not really
Actually it really is. See everything from the info that was blocked for the Smithsonian's Enola Gay exhibit a few years ago, to info about the perceptions of Russian involvement in theater or showing them the force of the new toy.
Uh no. If the US had to invade mainland Japan, it would have made Stalingrad look like a school yard.
Lots of evidence that suggests otherwise and that the Japanese could have been brought to heel without the bomb. Lots of evidence that this was a show of force and a move to end the war before the Russians could move further into the theater.
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THEY DIDN'T EVEN SURRENDER UNTIL WE DROPPED A SECOND ONE WTF JAPAN
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THEY DIDN'T EVEN SURRENDER UNTIL WE DROPPED A SECOND ONE WTF JAPAN
Bushido
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i'm kinda sad germany didn't win so we could watch them try to sort out what to apologize for and when.
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THEY DIDN'T EVEN SURRENDER UNTIL WE DROPPED A SECOND ONE WTF JAPAN
and some of them still didn't surrender after that! The thinking of the day that a successful invasion of the Japanese home islands would of required killing every man, woman and child seems to have some validity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_holdout (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_holdout)
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Cruelty and war crimes = Japan's prison camps, Battan Death March, and dick on a stick.
Our fire bombings of Japan and Germany were more horrific. Obama just being there sends the message we are ashamed and will never be war meanies again. Sheik Abdullah Hajithroatcutter laughs at pussy weak president.
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The amount of attention being paid to this is astounding. It's good to be us
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Today is a sad day. Obama pronounced to the world the reason why we dropped the nuclear bomb was because of religious zeal and national fervor. )$'+2+@?/&!!!
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amazing the amount of media obsession with his visit
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amazing the amount of media obsession with his visit
he's the president of the united states
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amazing the amount of media obsession with his visit
he's the president of the united states
I'm trying to make fun of people
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amazing the amount of media obsession with his visit
he's the president of the united states
I'm trying to make fun of people
oh
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No apologies. Bull crap. Hugging that Japanese guy for Americans doing somerhing horible.to him. My uncles saw.firt.hand what the Japanese did to Americans. No hugs from the Japanese premier. All obama did was rip off old scabs and urinate on the wounds.
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No apologies. Bull crap. Hugging that Japanese guy for Americans doing somerhing horible.to him. My uncles saw.firt.hand what the Japanese did to Americans. No hugs from the Japanese premier. All obama did was rip off old scabs and urinate on the wounds.
Like I said, victory lap
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www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-05-27/its-time-to-confront-painful-truths-about-using-the-atomic-bombs-on-japan
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Will Obama hug a rabid Islamist? He has bombed innocent families with drones to kill the combatants.
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www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-05-27/its-time-to-confront-painful-truths-about-using-the-atomic-bombs-on-japan
Klinger is much more convincing
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No apologies. Bull crap. Hugging that Japanese guy for Americans doing somerhing horible.to him. My uncles saw.firt.hand what the Japanese did to Americans. No hugs from the Japanese premier. All obama did was rip off old scabs and urinate on the wounds.
I bet that was one of those super awkward hugs where their faces are sort of close together but they're both sticking their butts way out.
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www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-05-27/its-time-to-confront-painful-truths-about-using-the-atomic-bombs-on-japan
Klinger is much more convincing
???
(https://ismmentalillness.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/klinger.jpeg)
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The guy arguing opposite opinion of your cited source in a forum named The Debate Club.