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Title: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: hemmy on May 04, 2010, 12:34:19 AM
Still hard, even though I eat tasty food, my samples are tiny.  Trying to shrink my appetite.  Discuss.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Kat Kid on May 04, 2010, 05:41:47 AM
Why don't you try snoking a pack of cigarettes every day?
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Johnny Wichita on May 04, 2010, 07:38:32 AM
Have been trying this lately also.  It's tough for a fat kid like me.  Last night I worked hard to only eat three pieces of pizza instead of the usual six or seven.  Then I couldn't resist the yoder cinnamon rolls sitting on the counter, so I had two.  
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 04, 2010, 07:47:02 AM
This is really difficult. But after a week or so it's easy because you really aren't too hungry after that. But once you have a big meal, like a birthday or family get-together, it's back to square one, so you have to make sure to stick to your portions then.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: hemmy on May 04, 2010, 08:17:46 AM
This is really difficult. But after a week or so it's easy because you really aren't too hungry after that. But once you have a big meal, like a birthday or family get-together, it's back to square one, so you have to make sure to stick to your portions then.

Ya I know, and that means I can never eat pizza again if I want to stay thin :(  Not sure if thats worth it.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: pissclams on May 04, 2010, 08:20:34 AM
you fats crack me up, nom nom nom
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: hemmy on May 04, 2010, 08:52:54 AM
Not fat just not skinny :angry:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: pissclams on May 04, 2010, 08:59:38 AM
Not fat just not skinny :angry:
that sucks man. 
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: 'taterblast on May 04, 2010, 10:47:53 AM
*slowly chewing away at my mid-morning snack of egg whites*
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 04, 2010, 10:51:14 AM
Eating less amounts of not healthy food is not easy.  Eating more healthy food is easier.  fwiw.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: pissclams on May 04, 2010, 10:55:02 AM
Eating less amounts of not healthy food is not easy.  Eating more healthy food is easier.  fwiw.

nom nom nom
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 04, 2010, 11:07:08 AM
daris healthy tip #4- if you think you are hungry, go drink an 8 oz glass of water and wait fifteen minutes to see if the hunger feeling subsides. the body commonly mistakes thirst for hunger.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Kat Kid on May 04, 2010, 11:08:12 AM
daris healthy tip #4- if you think you are hungry, go drink an 8 oz glass of water and wait fifteen minutes to see if the hunger feeling subsides. the body commonly mistakes thirst for hunger.  :thumbsup:

Ice cream usually melts on the way down.  Two birds, am I wrong?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: pissclams on May 04, 2010, 11:14:15 AM
daris healthy tip #4- if you think you are hungry, go drink an 8 oz glass of water and wait fifteen minutes to see if the hunger feeling subsides. the body commonly mistakes thirst for hunger.  :thumbsup:

Ice cream usually melts on the way down.  Two birds, am I wrong?   :dunno:
when i think "eating healthy" the first thing that comes to mind is a big bowl of ice cream.  dumbass.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 04, 2010, 11:16:24 AM
Eating less amounts of not healthy food is not easy.  Eating more healthy food is easier.  fwiw.

nom nom nom

^saulbadguy eating garlic stuffed olives
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Kat Kid on May 04, 2010, 11:19:37 AM
daris healthy tip #4- if you think you are hungry, go drink an 8 oz glass of water and wait fifteen minutes to see if the hunger feeling subsides. the body commonly mistakes thirst for hunger.  :thumbsup:

Ice cream usually melts on the way down.  Two birds, am I wrong?   :dunno:
when i think "eating healthy" the first thing that comes to mind is a big bowl of ice cream.  dumbass.

If you aren't careful, you will drive off every last cool person that posts here bro.  Tone it down. :nono:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: pissclams on May 04, 2010, 11:26:02 AM
daris healthy tip #4- if you think you are hungry, go drink an 8 oz glass of water and wait fifteen minutes to see if the hunger feeling subsides. the body commonly mistakes thirst for hunger.  :thumbsup:

Ice cream usually melts on the way down.  Two birds, am I wrong?   :dunno:
when i think "eating healthy" the first thing that comes to mind is a big bowl of ice cream.  dumbass.

If you aren't careful, you will drive off every last cool person that posts here bro.  Tone it down. :nono:

am i hungry?  am i thirsty?  how about a giant bowl of thirst cream?
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: chum1 on May 04, 2010, 11:28:32 AM
I've been drinking 10 cups of water per day for a while now.  It's a chore.  But I usually feel full and bloated.  I also have to go to the bathroom a lot.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Kat Kid on May 04, 2010, 11:38:54 AM
daris healthy tip #4- if you think you are hungry, go drink an 8 oz glass of water and wait fifteen minutes to see if the hunger feeling subsides. the body commonly mistakes thirst for hunger.  :thumbsup:

Ice cream usually melts on the way down.  Two birds, am I wrong?   :dunno:
when i think "eating healthy" the first thing that comes to mind is a big bowl of ice cream.  dumbass.

If you aren't careful, you will drive off every last cool person that posts here bro.  Tone it down. :nono:

am i hungry?  am i thirsty?  how about a giant bowl of thirst cream?

sounds like the lyrics to a gaga/ke$ha collabo that would drop my panties into a bunch.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 04, 2010, 11:39:12 AM
Yeah, I try to get down 100oz throughout the workday. Sucks when it's busy and I have to head to the bathroom. But, relieving the massive piss within, which is probably significantly increasing my chances of prostrate cancer, is one of the best feelings I can imagine. And I am definitely not hungry while downing all this H2O.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: 1/64th on May 04, 2010, 12:21:29 PM
Today, on the way back to the office I stopped by McDonald's and got 2 McChicken sandwiches and medium fries.  Then, in an effort to be healthy I gave one McChicken sandwich to a homeless person sitting at the top of the exit ramp.  I'm pretty sure she was a meth-head, so she was prolly pretty hungry.  Help the needy, be less unhealthy....two birds, one stone.   :gocho:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2010, 12:23:58 PM
Today, on the way back to the office I stopped by McDonald's and got 2 McChicken sandwiches and medium fries.  Then, in an effort to be healthy I gave one McChicken sandwich to a homeless person sitting at the top of the exit ramp.  I'm pretty sure she was a meth-head, so she was prolly pretty hungry.  Help the needy, be less unhealthy....two birds, one stone.   :gocho:

I think you must mean opposite day meth-head if you think she was hungry
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Kat Kid on May 04, 2010, 12:34:11 PM
Today, on the way back to the office I stopped by McDonald's and got 2 McChicken sandwiches and medium fries.  Then, in an effort to be healthy I gave one McChicken sandwich to a homeless person sitting at the top of the exit ramp.  I'm pretty sure she was a meth-head, so she was prolly pretty hungry.  Help the needy, be less unhealthy....two birds, one stone.   :gocho:

I think you must mean opposite day meth-head if you think she was hungry

They eat their scabs all the time... :dunno:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: 1/64th on May 04, 2010, 12:38:51 PM
Today, on the way back to the office I stopped by McDonald's and got 2 McChicken sandwiches and medium fries.  Then, in an effort to be healthy I gave one McChicken sandwich to a homeless person sitting at the top of the exit ramp.  I'm pretty sure she was a meth-head, so she was prolly pretty hungry.  Help the needy, be less unhealthy....two birds, one stone.   :gocho:

I think you must mean opposite day meth-head if you think she was hungry

I have very little experience with meth, but I just figured they were hungry since they look hungry.....and scabby.  She was pretty excited to get a McChicken sandwich, I can tell you that much. 
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 04, 2010, 12:40:51 PM
Not all of us eat our scabs.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: pissclams on May 04, 2010, 12:51:57 PM
Not all of us eat our scabs.
scabs have more nutritional value than a case of centrum multi-vitamins.  the dirty hand crew from the hand washing thread told me so.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 06, 2010, 04:42:02 PM
Still hard, even though I eat tasty food, my samples are tiny.  Trying to shrink my appetite.  Discuss.

I bet your typical Sunday-thru-Thursday diet is fine, but you probably add weight on the weekends like most college students.

Here's a tip: on nights you plan on drinking heavily, eat dinner in the early evening well before you start drinking alcohol or go out to the bars. If you start drinking beer after your food is digested, the likelihood of putting on weight will go down significantly. Also: try to avoid eating pizza or chinese (very hard) or whatever else you like to stuff your face with AFTER drinking. The reason is simple. Your body will try to get rid of the alcohol first, because it's a toxin. So in the time it takes to get rid of, say, 10 or 12 beers ... that pizza you ate is not being broken down ... and is instead stored as fat. That is why most people put on so much weight on the weekend. Like I said, I bet your normal diet is fine.

So, to recap:

1. Eat  :lick:
2. Let food digest  :frown:
3. Drink  :drink:
4. Go to bed  :zzz: (don't eat)





Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 06, 2010, 06:28:57 PM
Thanks j rake, that's good to know. As hard as it is to resist Hunam after a trip to the bars, it sounds like I better start resisting it.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: 'taterblast on May 06, 2010, 06:50:49 PM
spot on, j-rake.  it's easy to be healthy and lose a couple pounds mon.-thurs., but once that weekend hits, it becomes kind of impossible to not eat junk and drink myself into a coma, and then eat junk again.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 06, 2010, 08:42:57 PM
Alright so I got up to like 238 lbs in January, and I was like, omg I'm a fat ass.  So I looked at what I was eating.

Breakfast:
2 Donuts and chocolate milk or
1 sausage egg and queso burrito, potato sticks, and orange juice (taco bueno) or
something from McDonalds

Lunch:  (gets real bad here)
Everything on this list with a fountain soda
5GBAF or
Chipotle or
Popeyes or
HyVee Chinese or
Oklahoma Joes ( :love: ) or
Sometimes some other things

Dinner: 
Something from the fryer or
Frozen pizza or
frozen burrito's or
a bunch of random junk food or
fast food somewhere.

Then usually some sort of sweet thing at about 9pm.

So I was all gmafb I eat a whole bunch of horrible stuff.

So now I eat

Breakfast:
Bowl of cereal (something not all sugary, but not nasty either).

Lunch:  Water to drink
6 inch Ham & Turkey on wheat from Subway or
6 inch turkey sub from Planet sub when the royals win.

Dinner:  Water to drink
About the same stuff, except less.  And I don't eat stuff from the fryer.

I also fill up a 20oz bottle of water up about 4-5 times during the workday.  Don't drink pop at all anymore.

Down to about 175.

Also, let it be known even with that diet I'm like 185 in the summer cause I play tennis and stuff like everyday.  But eating all that stuff dosen't work well in the winter.

In conclusion, I stopped horrible stuff for every meal without any extra exercise and I got back down to my normal weight.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Do Work Son on May 06, 2010, 09:29:35 PM
I haven't bought pop in the store in several years. Get a 24 pack last week, and boom I put on 3 pounds. JFC, never buying pepsi again.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: 'taterblast on May 06, 2010, 09:35:43 PM
diet dr. pepper, dude. crap's good.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 06, 2010, 10:53:19 PM
Thanks j rake, that's good to know. As hard as it is to resist Hunam after a trip to the bars, it sounds like I better start resisting it.

Seriously, this is the key. But if you can't resist, buy a jump rope.

If you are even remotely good at jump rope you can burn between 20 and 25 calories per minute. Most fat people are too lazy to run, which makes sense, because running is boring. Unless you have oscar on your iPod, because then it's the greatest thing in the world. But yeah, if you have a craving for a certain food ... eat it ... and then, "jump it off."

You can burn off a Twinkie in seven minutes. :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Perry on May 07, 2010, 06:31:40 AM
Take up an addicting game like World of Warcraft. You'll get sucked up so much you won't want to leave the game to eat, and if you do you'll just want something quick and filling enough that you don't feel like you're starving.

Now the lack of exercise that comes with this solution is another problem altogether, lemme know if you figure that one out.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 07, 2010, 09:44:38 AM
Take up an addicting game like World of Warcraft. You'll get sucked up so much you won't want to leave the game to eat, and if you do you'll just want something quick and filling enough that you don't feel like you're starving.

Now the lack of exercise that comes with this solution is another problem altogether, lemme know if you figure that one out.

That's probably the worst advice you can give. I knew a guy who used to play World of Warcraft. All he did was play that game, and eat. Only he couldn't even get his own food. He'd just overpay other people to get it for him. Wendy's. McDonald's. Pizza Shuttle. The guy ate everything. And he never slept. He just ate and played Warcraft. His room was also a total mess.

He went from 150 to 185 in about a year.

So yeah, play Warcraft. That will solve everything. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2010, 10:20:07 AM
I like Perry's suggestion.  People who are fat are also lazy and won't change their ways over the long term.  You might as well find an addicting game that you can enjoy while fattisizing. 
 
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 07, 2010, 11:15:46 AM
I like Perry's suggestion.  People who are fat are also lazy and won't change their ways over the long term.  You might as well find an addicting game that you can enjoy while fattisizing. 
 
Plus if you get too addicted to it, you won't ever leave, so you won't have to worry about the ladies.  Play WOW get fat, be happy.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Perry on May 07, 2010, 03:12:24 PM
Verdict's in, then. Play WoW.

:everythingwentbetterthanexpected:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 07, 2010, 07:45:13 PM
Thanks j rake, that's good to know. As hard as it is to resist Hunam after a trip to the bars, it sounds like I better start resisting it.

Seriously, this is the key. But if you can't resist, buy a jump rope.

If you are even remotely good at jump rope you can burn between 20 and 25 calories per minute. Most fat people are too lazy to run, which makes sense, because running is boring. Unless you have oscar on your iPod, because then it's the greatest thing in the world. But yeah, if you have a craving for a certain food ... eat it ... and then, "jump it off."

You can burn off a Twinkie in seven minutes. :thumbsup:



J, I would smash you in jump rope.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 07, 2010, 09:02:47 PM
Thanks j rake, that's good to know. As hard as it is to resist Hunam after a trip to the bars, it sounds like I better start resisting it.

Seriously, this is the key. But if you can't resist, buy a jump rope.

If you are even remotely good at jump rope you can burn between 20 and 25 calories per minute. Most fat people are too lazy to run, which makes sense, because running is boring. Unless you have oscar on your iPod, because then it's the greatest thing in the world. But yeah, if you have a craving for a certain food ... eat it ... and then, "jump it off."

You can burn off a Twinkie in seven minutes. :thumbsup:



J, I would smash you in jump rope.

And then I would destroy you in tennis.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg13.imageshack.us%2Fimg13%2F7374%2Fdancefool.gif&hash=8b5815482af590d81277ab9081f04a53c5a2cff5)
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 08, 2010, 07:52:03 AM
Thanks j rake, that's good to know. As hard as it is to resist Hunam after a trip to the bars, it sounds like I better start resisting it.

Seriously, this is the key. But if you can't resist, buy a jump rope.

If you are even remotely good at jump rope you can burn between 20 and 25 calories per minute. Most fat people are too lazy to run, which makes sense, because running is boring. Unless you have oscar on your iPod, because then it's the greatest thing in the world. But yeah, if you have a craving for a certain food ... eat it ... and then, "jump it off."

You can burn off a Twinkie in seven minutes. :thumbsup:



J, I would smash you in jump rope.

And then I would destroy you in tennis.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg13.imageshack.us%2Fimg13%2F7374%2Fdancefool.gif&hash=8b5815482af590d81277ab9081f04a53c5a2cff5)


have you two ever thought of playing each other in tennis while jumping rope?
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 08, 2010, 09:08:29 AM
fattyvsjrakepak?
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: I_have_purplewood on May 08, 2010, 09:51:01 AM
Alright so I got up to like 238 lbs in January, and I was like, omg I'm a fat ass.  So I looked at what I was eating.

Breakfast:
2 Donuts and chocolate milk or
1 sausage egg and queso burrito, potato sticks, and orange juice (taco bueno) or
something from McDonalds

Lunch:  (gets real bad here)
Everything on this list with a fountain soda
5GBAF or
Chipotle or
Popeyes or
HyVee Chinese or
Oklahoma Joes ( :love: ) or
Sometimes some other things

Dinner: 
Something from the fryer or
Frozen pizza or
frozen burrito's or
a bunch of random junk food or
fast food somewhere.

Then usually some sort of sweet thing at about 9pm.

So I was all gmafb I eat a whole bunch of horrible stuff.

So now I eat

Breakfast:
Bowl of cereal (something not all sugary, but not nasty either).

Lunch:  Water to drink
6 inch Ham & Turkey on wheat from Subway or
6 inch turkey sub from Planet sub when the royals win.

Dinner:  Water to drink
About the same stuff, except less.  And I don't eat stuff from the fryer.

I also fill up a 20oz bottle of water up about 4-5 times during the workday.  Don't drink pop at all anymore.

Down to about 175.

Also, let it be known even with that diet I'm like 185 in the summer cause I play tennis and stuff like everyday.  But eating all that stuff dosen't work well in the winter.

In conclusion, I stopped horrible stuff for every meal without any extra exercise and I got back down to my normal weight.

Nice to see you shed some lbs. km.  I think you were probably pretty close to raping someone.  You might also want to add an apple to your list?  :dunno: (ftp://:dunno:)
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 08, 2010, 10:16:01 AM
Thanks j rake, that's good to know. As hard as it is to resist Hunam after a trip to the bars, it sounds like I better start resisting it.

Seriously, this is the key. But if you can't resist, buy a jump rope.

If you are even remotely good at jump rope you can burn between 20 and 25 calories per minute. Most fat people are too lazy to run, which makes sense, because running is boring. Unless you have oscar on your iPod, because then it's the greatest thing in the world. But yeah, if you have a craving for a certain food ... eat it ... and then, "jump it off."

You can burn off a Twinkie in seven minutes. :thumbsup:



J, I would smash you in jump rope.

And then I would destroy you in tennis.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg13.imageshack.us%2Fimg13%2F7374%2Fdancefool.gif&hash=8b5815482af590d81277ab9081f04a53c5a2cff5)


have you two ever thought of playing each other in tennis while jumping rope?

I don't think it is possible to play tennis and jump rope at the same time.

But I would beat Fatty in tennis. I'm sure of it.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: hemmy on May 08, 2010, 10:22:41 AM
How many calories do you burn mowing the lawn?
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 08, 2010, 10:29:37 AM
How many calories do you burn mowing the lawn?

If you weigh between 175 and 225 pounds, you will burn approx 250 calories in 30 minutes.

(Assuming you are pushing the mower, not riding one.)

Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 08, 2010, 11:04:31 AM
Thanks j rake, that's good to know. As hard as it is to resist Hunam after a trip to the bars, it sounds like I better start resisting it.

Seriously, this is the key. But if you can't resist, buy a jump rope.

If you are even remotely good at jump rope you can burn between 20 and 25 calories per minute. Most fat people are too lazy to run, which makes sense, because running is boring. Unless you have oscar on your iPod, because then it's the greatest thing in the world. But yeah, if you have a craving for a certain food ... eat it ... and then, "jump it off."

You can burn off a Twinkie in seven minutes. :thumbsup:



J, I would smash you in jump rope.

And then I would destroy you in tennis.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg13.imageshack.us%2Fimg13%2F7374%2Fdancefool.gif&hash=8b5815482af590d81277ab9081f04a53c5a2cff5)


have you two ever thought of playing each other in tennis while jumping rope?

I don't think it is possible to play tennis and jump rope at the same time.

But I would beat Fatty in tennis. I'm sure of it.

c'mon man. it's just tennis. i bet i could jump rope, juggle and play tennis all at the same time if i knew how to juggle.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 08, 2010, 11:26:23 AM
Intermittent fasting.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 08, 2010, 11:50:05 AM
Intermittent fasting.

The absolute worst thing you can do.  :nono:

Eventually, you'll eat again, and when you do it will be double trouble.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 08, 2010, 12:29:53 PM
Intermittent fasting.

If i don't eat....i get shaky and light headed. Don't think i would be a good faster.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 08, 2010, 01:06:19 PM
Intermittent fasting.

If i don't eat....i get shaky and light headed. Don't think i would be a good faster.

Used to play poker with a kid who never ate. His hands always shook like hell.

Most people just assumed he was trying to bluff.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: hemmy on May 08, 2010, 01:10:39 PM
My mower won't start now I can't burn calories :angry:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 08, 2010, 01:34:11 PM
My mower won't start now I can't burn calories :angry:

Keep trying to start your mower. The movement is similar to chopping wood, which is actually the fastest way to burn calories. If it eventually starts, then you're really in business. Good luck.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Perry on May 08, 2010, 06:35:17 PM
Try eating your week's calories in a day then going on water for the next 6 days. Or better yet, plan for the whole winter, eat all of that food in like two weeks, then sleep it off. Seems to work for bears :dunno:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: raquetcat on May 08, 2010, 06:38:16 PM
mrs. raquetcat is a dietitian I'll seek her professional opinion then let you know
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 08, 2010, 06:50:55 PM
Intermittent fasting.

The absolute worst thing you can do.  :nono:

Eventually, you'll eat again, and when you do it will be double trouble.
Ya...double trouble.   :rolleyes:  Instead of eating 3k calories throughout the day, you'll be able to pack all 3k in for one meal.   :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 08, 2010, 08:35:10 PM
Intermittent fasting.

The absolute worst thing you can do.  :nono:

Eventually, you'll eat again, and when you do it will be double trouble.
Ya...double trouble.   :rolleyes:  Instead of eating 3k calories throughout the day, you'll be able to pack all 3k in for one meal.   :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:

You make more sense on Twitter.  :blank:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 10, 2010, 10:42:30 AM
I did a 24 hour fast on Sunday. Had a small dinner to break the fast.  Feel pretty good. :cool:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: hemmy on May 10, 2010, 12:02:39 PM
Lost 8 lbs so far on my eat less diet :cool:

Also, I cut out all pop, so I drink only water now.  Used to drink 2-3 dr. peppers per day at work.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 10, 2010, 01:44:56 PM
Lost 8 lbs so far on my eat less diet :cool:

Also, I cut out all pop, so I drink only water now.  Used to drink 2-3 dr. peppers per day at work.
Yeah cutting out 300-450 calories per day will help. :)
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 10, 2010, 02:37:21 PM
Lost 8 lbs so far on my eat less diet :cool:

Also, I cut out all pop, so I drink only water now.  Used to drink 2-3 dr. peppers per day at work.

The weight you lost is only temporary. You'll put it all back on and then some when you slip up. In the meantime, expect to feel like complete crap, and every time you eat a legitimate size portion of food it will feel like you swallowed a bowling ball.

Nice job with the water, though.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 10, 2010, 02:59:37 PM
Lost 8 lbs so far on my eat less diet :cool:

Also, I cut out all pop, so I drink only water now.  Used to drink 2-3 dr. peppers per day at work.

The weight you lost is only temporary. You'll put it all back on and then some when you slip up. In the meantime, expect to feel like complete crap, and every time you eat a legitimate size portion of food it will feel like you swallowed a bowling ball.

Nice job with the water, though.
What is a legitimate size portion of food?  I think you may be slightly confused.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: bonercat on May 10, 2010, 03:06:12 PM
Have you ever thought of just using Chop Sticks to eat your food? You get less food per bite, and you'll fill yourself up faster. You'll just have to work on the stress of wanting to snap at any moment in learning how to use them.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 10, 2010, 03:09:01 PM
You don't lose weight by starving yourself. Any weight loss plan that does not involve exercise is a bad one. Hemmy is so out of shape that he couldn't even start his lawn mower on Saturday. Yet he claims to have lost 8 pounds (in a week?), which, OK, he probably has. But it won't last. And he won't keep the weight off.

I predict a  :angry: Hemmy in the weeks to come.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 10, 2010, 03:14:45 PM
You don't lose weight by starving yourself. Any weight loss plan that does not involve exercise is a bad one. Hemmy is so out of shape that he couldn't even start his lawn mower on Saturday. Yet he claims to have lost 8 pounds (in a week?), which, OK, he probably has. But it won't last. And he won't keep the weight off.

I predict a  :angry: Hemmy in the weeks to come.
8 pounds in a week is probably a mixture of him being liberal with the actual amount he is lost, water weight, and maybe 1 lb of actual fat loss.

You can lose weight by starving yourself.  You will die, though.   Agree on the exercise part.

You CAN lose weight by fasting, it is a very effective way of burning fat.  Might not be the best solution unless you plan on incorporating fasting in to your lifestyle for good.

Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 10, 2010, 03:23:07 PM
Hemmy is so out of shape that he couldn't even start his lawn mower on Saturday.

this is a very good point. very, very good point. also, i've heard it's best to keep your body guessing. like have five days where you eat the same calorie wise and then have a day where you eat 50% more or something. then a few days back to the same and then a day where you do what saul did where you only eat one meal and then back to the same. keep the body guessing.

example

day   calories
1        1600
2         1600
3         1600
4         1600
5         2100
6         1600
7         1600
8         1600
9           800
10       1600

etc.

thoughts?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 10, 2010, 03:28:06 PM
My honest thoughts: The body doesn't care about that.  If you can create a caloric deficit of 3500 calories, you will lose 1 pound.  How you do that is up to you.  A combination of eating less, and exercise is the best way. 

Psychologically though a "cheat meal" is worth it.  Otherwise you'd go crazy and just quit.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 10, 2010, 03:29:56 PM
http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/

Calculate your BMR to find out how much to eat to create a caloric deficit.  Then use the harris benedict equation.

To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:

   1. If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
   2. If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
   3. If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
   4. If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
   5. If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 10, 2010, 03:33:29 PM
My honest thoughts: The body doesn't care about that.  If you can create a caloric deficit of 3500 calories, you will lose 1 pound.  How you do that is up to you.  A combination of eating less, and exercise is the best way. 

Psychologically though a "cheat meal" is worth it.  Otherwise you'd go crazy and just quit.

so if i create a 3500 coloric deficit every two weeks then i'll lose 260 lbs in the next ten years? dunno. seems suspicous.  :nono:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 10, 2010, 03:35:36 PM
My honest thoughts: The body doesn't care about that.  If you can create a caloric deficit of 3500 calories, you will lose 1 pound.  How you do that is up to you.  A combination of eating less, and exercise is the best way. 

Psychologically though a "cheat meal" is worth it.  Otherwise you'd go crazy and just quit.

so if i create a 3500 coloric deficit every two weeks then i'll lose 260 lbs in the next ten years? dunno. seems suspicous.  :nono:
Read above.

You will lose weight and your BMR will drop accordingly.  It will become much more difficult to create a 3500 caloric deficit when you only weigh 120 lbs. :ohno:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 10, 2010, 03:46:29 PM
You are better off sleeping with the window open and "shivering" off your weight than fasting.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 10, 2010, 03:49:48 PM
You are better off sleeping with the window open and "shivering" off your weight than fasting.
You haven't adequately explained why fasting is supposedly bad for you.  Please do.  I'll be back to destroy your faulty logic after I get home from "the gym". 
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 10, 2010, 03:57:01 PM
I'm not saying fasting is terrible, but it's not good, either.

If you fast, you aren't giving your body the nutrients it needs. Your body will breakdown muscle tissue for energy. Then you will lose muscle. Then you are just fat. Your metabolism will get screwed up if you do this routinely.

Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 10, 2010, 04:37:05 PM
Fasting isn't going to last past 30 days.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 10, 2010, 04:51:17 PM
Fasting isn't going to last past 30 days.

Do you mean consecutively?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 10, 2010, 06:01:19 PM
I'm not saying fasting is terrible, but it's not good, either.

If you fast, you aren't giving your body the nutrients it needs. Your body will breakdown muscle tissue for energy. Then you will lose muscle. Then you are just fat. Your metabolism will get screwed up if you do this routinely.


Incorrect.  All false.  If you can prove any of this, i'll buy you a KATPAK.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 10, 2010, 06:02:29 PM
Fasting isn't going to last past 30 days.

Do you mean consecutively?  :dunno:
Yeah fasting for 30 days isn't a great idea but it's do-able.

I'm talking once or twice a week, eat your meal at 6:00 pm and fast until the next 6:00 pm.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 10, 2010, 06:20:53 PM
I'm not saying fasting is terrible, but it's not good, either.

If you fast, you aren't giving your body the nutrients it needs. Your body will breakdown muscle tissue for energy. Then you will lose muscle. Then you are just fat. Your metabolism will get screwed up if you do this routinely.


Incorrect.  All false.  If you can prove any of this, i'll buy you a KATPAK.

I always thought it was common knowledge/obvious.

But what the heck, you seem pretty adamant. I'll take your word for it.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 10, 2010, 06:24:52 PM
I'm not saying fasting is terrible, but it's not good, either.

If you fast, you aren't giving your body the nutrients it needs. Your body will breakdown muscle tissue for energy. Then you will lose muscle. Then you are just fat. Your metabolism will get screwed up if you do this routinely.


Incorrect.  All false.  If you can prove any of this, i'll buy you a KATPAK.

I always thought it was common knowledge/obvious.

But what the heck, you seem pretty adamant. I'll take your word for it.  :thumbsup:
It's just one of those things that if it gets repeated enough people will believe it, especially if said by a nutritional supplement company...trying to sell you more of their product.  No $$$ is made by anyone promoting fasting, and the only way you will lose muscle is if you don't use them.  The metabolism thing is another common myth.  Your BMR only changes when you lose weight/gain weight.

Or of course starve yourself over a long period of time, which isn't what fasting is about.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 10, 2010, 06:30:36 PM
I'm not saying fasting is terrible, but it's not good, either.

If you fast, you aren't giving your body the nutrients it needs. Your body will breakdown muscle tissue for energy. Then you will lose muscle. Then you are just fat. Your metabolism will get screwed up if you do this routinely.


Incorrect.  All false.  If you can prove any of this, i'll buy you a KATPAK.

I always thought it was common knowledge/obvious.

But what the heck, you seem pretty adamant. I'll take your word for it.  :thumbsup:
It's just one of those things that if it gets repeated enough people will believe it, especially if said by a nutritional supplement company...trying to sell you more of their product.  No $$$ is made by anyone promoting fasting, and the only way you will lose muscle is if you don't use them.  The metabolism thing is another common myth.  Your BMR only changes when you lose weight/gain weight.

Or of course starve yourself over a long period of time, which isn't what fasting is about.

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Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 10, 2010, 06:36:14 PM
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Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: raquetcat on May 10, 2010, 06:36:53 PM
I'm not saying fasting is terrible, but it's not good, either.

If you fast, you aren't giving your body the nutrients it needs. Your body will breakdown muscle tissue for energy. Then you will lose muscle. Then you are just fat. Your metabolism will get screwed up if you do this routinely.


Incorrect.  All false.  If you can prove any of this, i'll buy you a KATPAK.

I always thought it was common knowledge/obvious.

But what the heck, you seem pretty adamant. I'll take your word for it.  :thumbsup:
It's just one of those things that if it gets repeated enough people will believe it, especially if said by a nutritional supplement company...trying to sell you more of their product.  No $$$ is made by anyone promoting fasting, and the only way you will lose muscle is if you don't use them.  The metabolism thing is another common myth.  Your BMR only changes when you lose weight/gain weight.

Or of course starve yourself over a long period of time, which isn't what fasting is about.

what is your definition of fasting?
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 10, 2010, 06:43:04 PM
I'm not saying fasting is terrible, but it's not good, either.

If you fast, you aren't giving your body the nutrients it needs. Your body will breakdown muscle tissue for energy. Then you will lose muscle. Then you are just fat. Your metabolism will get screwed up if you do this routinely.


Incorrect.  All false.  If you can prove any of this, i'll buy you a KATPAK.

I always thought it was common knowledge/obvious.

But what the heck, you seem pretty adamant. I'll take your word for it.  :thumbsup:
It's just one of those things that if it gets repeated enough people will believe it, especially if said by a nutritional supplement company...trying to sell you more of their product.  No $$$ is made by anyone promoting fasting, and the only way you will lose muscle is if you don't use them.  The metabolism thing is another common myth.  Your BMR only changes when you lose weight/gain weight.

Or of course starve yourself over a long period of time, which isn't what fasting is about.

what is your definition of fasting?

Willingly abstaining from food for health and/or religious reasons.

I do a day at a time.  I eat a meal around 6:00 pm, then don't eat until the next day at 6:00 pm.  Some people like to go longer.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 10, 2010, 06:48:20 PM
Poor Hemmy. He came to get help and instead he has found an enabler.

I will make one more recommendation to you Hemmy. I suggest that you give sprinting a try. Saul might disagree with this, but I have never seen a fat sprinter before. There is a reason for this. If you sprint for even 20 minutes (interval training), you will burn more than 500 calories. The real benefit, though, comes afterward. It will take your body several hours to recover, and to do this, your body will need to take in more oxygen. You need oxygen to burn fat.

So, while you might normally burn 2 calories per minute, now you might be burning 4 or 5 calories per minute afterward. Now multiply that out over two or three (or four) hours. This will benefit you.

Until Saul says I'm wrong.  :bawl:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 10, 2010, 06:50:31 PM
Stick your finger down your throat and throw up...seems easy to me :dunno:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 10, 2010, 06:53:27 PM
Any form of cardiovascular exercise is good.  High intensity interval training is great, burns a shitload of calories.

But the reason you don't see fat sprinters is because fat people can't sprint for a very long time without getting winded, or destroying their shins and/or knees...so they give up.  

I say work your way up to being able to run.  I'm doing the "couch to 5k" thing and it seems effective, although i'm only on week 3 (of 9).  

Only part I take issue with is you don't mention weight training.  Weight training is arguably more effective than cardiovascular exercise for time you put in and how many calories you burn.  Plus you build muscle, which naturally raises your RMR (although very slightly).  
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: j rake on May 10, 2010, 07:02:48 PM
You build muscle through weight training, yes, but also by eating right.

You seem to suggest that you can't lose muscle once you gain it. I think that's what Larry David was confused about. You made it seem like once you have it, you can't lose it.

And then you rambled on about fasting, which doesn't help with long-term weight loss and really has no use in this conversation unless you are Mahatma Gandhi or one of those "other" religions. :grin:
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 10, 2010, 07:08:57 PM
Naw, you can lose muscle...but generally only by not training them, or by starving yourself.

I don't see how fasting can't help with long-term weight loss.  It is ridiculously easy and flexible, and does not have any negative effects.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: hemmy on May 10, 2010, 07:10:07 PM
I have been going for more than a week.  Also, only currently have time for 2 insanity workouts per week, until finals are over then I can workout every day.

Gtfoomf, losers.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Sal Paradise on May 10, 2010, 10:35:26 PM
I have been going for more than a week.  Also, only currently have time for 2 insanity workouts per week, until finals are over then I can workout every day.

Gtfoomf, losers.

You should just GTL every day this summer.
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: Brock Landers on May 12, 2010, 04:31:44 PM
Warm up your registered dietitians, mother frackers!!
Title: Re: Eating less food (kind of like a diet but not eating healthy)
Post by: hemmy on May 14, 2010, 08:58:32 PM
Finally got my lawn mower running :cool:  Too dark to mow atm, however.