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Given the propensity of the board to frequently discuss what they don't like about Coach Weber, I thought I'd turn it around a bit and tell you what I like about having him as our head coach:
1. Understands offense. He took a talented group of juniors and seniors left here by Coach Martin and taught them how to read defenses and react accordingly to enable guys to know in advance where they are going to get their shots. It's then on them to practice shooting those shots
2. Solid, hard-working recruiter. I remember when all of the coaches before him were here, I'd go out to the recruiting search database and look to see who we were recruiting and I don't remember seeing the quality of recruits that I now see listing K-State as a destination. oscar always seems to be in on these guys early and recognizes the talent before anyone else including the rivals guys
3. Develops players without demeaning them. I can't imagine the words that DJamer would have heard his freshman and sophomore seasons or that Kamau would have heard for the shots he took or the turnovers he committed from our prior coach. It tore at the previous players confidence and as a result we lost games we shouldn't have. You think Will Spradling would have been afraid to take that 3 against Wisconsin if Weber was his coach. I'll put it this way, he nailed it against KU in OT when they got off to a great start. And don't say that it was his youth when you're not granting Weber that excuse
4. Emphasis on playing team defense as demonstrated by their play, their results, and even the assistant coaches he employs which brings me to the next thing I like
5. Great assistant coaches. Frazier, Brooks, and Lowery are 3 of the best. I love their enthusiasm during games and their celebrations with the players. These guys must also be terrific recruiters
6. Sets up plays to score out of timeouts
7. Not afraid to dismantle a team when he recognized his recruiting mistakes even if it costs him his job ultimately due to the impatience of fans when he could have let the inmates run the asylum to get wins even if it reflected poorly on K-State
8. His honesty when answering questions. Look it gets him in hot water in a year when he's not winning because it sounds like whining and like he's making excuses and no good coach does that. They don't. Huggins didn't. Neither did Martin or Kruger or Self or anyone...except Weber. He does it win or lose and everyone was okay with it when we won a Big XII championship, but if you lose, no one wants the truth if it isn't wrapped in a pretty package with a pretty bow. Weber is not pretty with the truth. Frank wasn't necessarily pretty with the truth either but he was tough in how he presented it. Weber isn't. He's just honest. I'm okay with that.
There's probably many many more but this gets us started
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Not afraid to dismantle a team when he recognized his recruiting mistakes even if it costs him his job ultimately due to the impatience of fans when he could have let the inmates run the asylum to get wins even if it reflected poorly on K-State
the most amazing period-less sentence in history
was this actually written by oscar?
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Given the propensity of the board to frequently discuss what they don't like about Coach Weber, I thought I'd turn it around a bit and tell you what I like about having him as our head coach:
1. Understands offense. He took a talented group of juniors and seniors left here by Coach Martin and taught them how to read defenses and react accordingly to enable guys to know in advance where they are going to get their shots. It's then on them to practice shooting those shots
In year 4, even his Juniors and transfer Seniors are afraid to take shots that are in their range, for fear of being pulled. He teaches them no out of bounds plays. We toss the ball readily into the opponent's backcourt in order to run a play on our end!
2. Solid, hard-working recruiter. I remember when all of the coaches before him were here, I'd go out to the recruiting search database and look to see who we were recruiting and I don't remember seeing the quality of recruits that I now see listing K-State as a destination. oscar always seems to be in on these guys early and recognizes the talent before anyone else including the rivals guys
Total misinformed nonsense. Only near NBA draftee has been r-u-n-n-o-f-t. The rest will play in municipal leagues if anywhere. Recruiting is awful for a P-5 team. Walk-ons are playing serious minutes!
3. Develops players without demeaning them. I can't imagine the words that DJamer would have heard his freshman and sophomore seasons or that Kamau would have heard for the shots he took or the turnovers he committed from our prior coach. It tore at the previous players confidence and as a result we lost games we shouldn't have. You think Will Spradling would have been afraid to take that 3 against Wisconsin if Weber was his coach. I'll put it this way, he nailed it against KU in OT when they got off to a great start. And don't say that it was his youth when you're not granting Weber that excuse Fails to comprehend the need for discipline in leading young men into the battlefield. As a result, their lack of male leadership has resulted in a gradual descent into ineffectiveness and apathy.
4. Emphasis on playing team defense as demonstrated by their play, their results, and even the assistant coaches he employs which brings me to the next thing I like Post defense is atrocious. Inability to recruit a shot blocker has fed into that conclusion, but it is what it is.
5. Great assistant coaches. Frazier, Brooks, and Lowery are 3 of the best. I love their enthusiasm during games and their celebrations with the players. These guys must also be terrific recruiters What? Assistants are the fuel behind the malaise in the program. They react to their leader. Enough said.
6. Sets up plays to score out of timeouts What games are you watching? We have no diagrammed inbounds plays. Stop wasting our time.
7. Not afraid to dismantle a team when he recognized his recruiting mistakes even if it costs him his job ultimately due to the impatience of fans when he could have let the inmates run the asylum to get wins even if it reflected poorly on K-State R-u-n-n-o-f-t player went to a program that is hardly known as a resurrector of problem players. The others have not shown themselves to be bad seeds. Perhaps the problem is in the soil?
8. His honesty when answering questions. Look it gets him in hot water in a year when he's not winning because it sounds like whining and like he's making excuses and no good coach does that. They don't. Huggins didn't. Neither did Martin or Kruger or Self or anyone...except Weber. He does it win or lose and everyone was okay with it when we won a Big XII championship, but if you lose, no one wants the truth if it isn't wrapped in a pretty package with a pretty bow. Weber is not pretty with the truth. Frank wasn't necessarily pretty with the truth either but he was tough in how he presented it. Weber isn't. He's just honest. I'm okay with that. Oh just shut up.
There's probably many many more but this gets us started
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haha
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Who the eff wrote that
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KSU Psych dept should be doing a study on this.
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These C/Ps used to be funny
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Obvious troll job. #6 gives it away.
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Valid points. I will take them under serious consideration.
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I'm pretty many on the 'bash have Stockholm Syndrome including a couple of PI employees.
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I'm telling you that many of the people on this board would have fired Coach Hartman and Coach Snyder the first time around (heck, maybe this time). Lynch Mob is all I can think of...
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I'm telling you that many of the people on this board would have fired Coach Hartman and Coach Snyder the first time around (heck, maybe this time). Lynch Mob is all I can think of...
Can't compare basketball with football with any meaning. Hartman had us turned around in his second season and sustained what he started.
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8. His honesty when answering questions. Look it gets him in hot water in a year when he's not winning because it sounds like whining and like he's making excuses and no good coach does that. They don't. Huggins didn't. Neither did Martin or Kruger or Self or anyone...except Weber. He does it win or lose and everyone was okay with it when we won a Big XII championship, but if you lose, no one wants the truth if it isn't wrapped in a pretty package with a pretty bow. Weber is not pretty with the truth. Frank wasn't necessarily pretty with the truth either but he was tough in how he presented it. Weber isn't. He's just honest. I'm okay with that.
I have no idea what this means.
All of the other coaches listed are always brutally honest when their teams lost without the excuses about travel, the refs, the schedule makers.
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Ptolemy should probably not post on this blogsite, imo.
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Ptolemy should probably not post on this blogsite, imo.
Now that's not very nice!
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Never stands too close to other coaches in tourney picture.
Tom
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oscar is about as far as he can be from Shaka - literally and figuratively.
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Lol at the middle guy
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At first I thought someone punched oscar's face out. Then I saw him at the end and was disappointed.
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Given the propensity of the board to frequently discuss what they don't like about Coach Weber, I thought I'd turn it around a bit and tell you what I like about having him as our head coach:
1. Understands offense. He took a talented group of juniors and seniors left here by Coach Martin and taught them how to read defenses and react accordingly to enable guys to know in advance where they are going to get their shots. It's then on them to practice shooting those shots
In year 4, even his Juniors and transfer Seniors are afraid to take shots that are in their range, for fear of being pulled. He teaches them no out of bounds plays. We toss the ball readily into the opponent's backcourt in order to run a play on our end!
2. Solid, hard-working recruiter. I remember when all of the coaches before him were here, I'd go out to the recruiting search database and look to see who we were recruiting and I don't remember seeing the quality of recruits that I now see listing K-State as a destination. oscar always seems to be in on these guys early and recognizes the talent before anyone else including the rivals guys
Total misinformed nonsense. Only near NBA draftee has been r-u-n-n-o-f-t. The rest will play in municipal leagues if anywhere. Recruiting is awful for a P-5 team. Walk-ons are playing serious minutes!
3. Develops players without demeaning them. I can't imagine the words that DJamer would have heard his freshman and sophomore seasons or that Kamau would have heard for the shots he took or the turnovers he committed from our prior coach. It tore at the previous players confidence and as a result we lost games we shouldn't have. You think Will Spradling would have been afraid to take that 3 against Wisconsin if Weber was his coach. I'll put it this way, he nailed it against KU in OT when they got off to a great start. And don't say that it was his youth when you're not granting Weber that excuse Fails to comprehend the need for discipline in leading young men into the battlefield. As a result, their lack of male leadership has resulted in a gradual descent into ineffectiveness and apathy.
4. Emphasis on playing team defense as demonstrated by their play, their results, and even the assistant coaches he employs which brings me to the next thing I like Post defense is atrocious. Inability to recruit a shot blocker has fed into that conclusion, but it is what it is.
5. Great assistant coaches. Frazier, Brooks, and Lowery are 3 of the best. I love their enthusiasm during games and their celebrations with the players. These guys must also be terrific recruiters What? Assistants are the fuel behind the malaise in the program. They react to their leader. Enough said.
6. Sets up plays to score out of timeouts What games are you watching? We have no diagrammed inbounds plays. Stop wasting our time.
7. Not afraid to dismantle a team when he recognized his recruiting mistakes even if it costs him his job ultimately due to the impatience of fans when he could have let the inmates run the asylum to get wins even if it reflected poorly on K-State R-u-n-n-o-f-t player went to a program that is hardly known as a resurrector of problem players. The others have not shown themselves to be bad seeds. Perhaps the problem is in the soil?
8. His honesty when answering questions. Look it gets him in hot water in a year when he's not winning because it sounds like whining and like he's making excuses and no good coach does that. They don't. Huggins didn't. Neither did Martin or Kruger or Self or anyone...except Weber. He does it win or lose and everyone was okay with it when we won a Big XII championship, but if you lose, no one wants the truth if it isn't wrapped in a pretty package with a pretty bow. Weber is not pretty with the truth. Frank wasn't necessarily pretty with the truth either but he was tough in how he presented it. Weber isn't. He's just honest. I'm okay with that. Oh just shut up.
There's probably many many more but this gets us started
:lol:
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He.is.a.good man. I get frustrated, but forget that we kissed 8 players goodbye. We need one good more decent recruit. Most of us like steak. But we like a.big.weiner.
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he really know how to dance
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I like that his team won a post season game tonight, and didn't fold. I think Claws and Flush go.beserk against.KU.
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I like that his team won a post season game tonight, and didn't fold. I think Claws and Flush go.beserk against.KU.
Claws will have 3 fouls before the 12 minute mark. ):
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He knows how to win the close games!
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Ptolemy should probably not post on this blogsite, imo.
You have to read the pit to get a full appreciation of how great ptolemy is.
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how he sticks his hands in his pants when he gets angry
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He's never been late to a game...so that's something.
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He's never been late to a game...so that's something.
Currie probably gives him a bonus for it.
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Our inbound plays are no better than when Frank was here, and that was one of Frank's weaknesses.
Running off recruits that you brought in, a significant number of them, is not something indicative of a quality coach.
From what I can tell, Chester looks to want to punch oscar in the face nearly every time they huddle during timeouts.
Yes, oscar can recruit better than Wooldridge and Asbury, again not indicative of a quality coach. And, to be honest, those two losers may have been able to recruit at oscar level had they inherited the gift that Huggins and Frank passed on.
oscar's defensive teams have been high quality, but Frank's were just as effective (at least) and better (at best) because they could turn defense into offense.
oscar is mediocrity, with brief moments of excellence. Live with it. Accept it. We're forever striving for 5th place in conference with him. Have another drink.
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"oscar is mediocrity, with brief moments of excellence. Live with it. Accept it. We're forever striving for 5th place in conference with him. Have another drink."
That pretty much defines the tone of this column, but not so much on the accept it angle:
http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2016-03-10/kevin-haskin-beat-goes-weber-cats-crumble-big-12-tourney
Some writers must be getting tired of having to sit through yearlong pig slop and Brucecuses. Nice to see someone in the media calling Oscar out about last year's fiasco.
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"oscar is mediocrity, with brief moments of excellence. Live with it. Accept it. We're forever striving for 5th place in conference with him. Have another drink."
That pretty much defines the tone of this column, but not so much on the accept it angle:
http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2016-03-10/kevin-haskin-beat-goes-weber-cats-crumble-big-12-tourney
Some writers must be getting tired of having to sit through yearlong pig slop and Brucecuses. Nice to see someone in the media calling Oscar out about last year's fiasco.
https://kansasstate.n.rivals.com/news/from-fitz-weber-staying-his-team-will-keep-playing
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"oscar is mediocrity, with brief moments of excellence. Live with it. Accept it. We're forever striving for 5th place in conference with him. Have another drink."
That pretty much defines the tone of this column, but not so much on the accept it angle:
http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2016-03-10/kevin-haskin-beat-goes-weber-cats-crumble-big-12-tourney
Some writers must be getting tired of having to sit through yearlong pig slop and Brucecuses. Nice to see someone in the media calling Oscar out about last year's fiasco.
He was allowed to dismantle the roster, with approval from athletic director John Currie
So they got together and last season's departures were all planned? Has this been common knowledge and discussed?
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Our inbound plays are no better than when Frank was here, and that was one of Frank's weaknesses.
Running off recruits that you brought in, a significant number of them, is not something indicative of a quality coach.
From what I can tell, Chester looks to want to punch oscar in the face nearly every time they huddle during timeouts.
Yes, oscar can recruit better than Wooldridge and Asbury, again not indicative of a quality coach. And, to be honest, those two losers may have been able to recruit at oscar level had they inherited the gift that Huggins and Frank passed on.
oscar's defensive teams have been high quality, but Frank's were just as effective (at least) and better (at best) because they could turn defense into offense.
oscar is mediocrity, with brief moments of excellence. Live with it. Accept it. We're forever striving for 5th place in conference with him. Have another drink.
I think Oscar has very bad breath, can't really verify this but he very well might. Probably one of reasons Chester has the punch a size your face for free look.
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"oscar is mediocrity, with brief moments of excellence. Live with it. Accept it. We're forever striving for 5th place in conference with him. Have another drink."
That pretty much defines the tone of this column, but not so much on the accept it angle:
http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2016-03-10/kevin-haskin-beat-goes-weber-cats-crumble-big-12-tourney
Some writers must be getting tired of having to sit through yearlong pig slop and Brucecuses. Nice to see someone in the media calling Oscar out about last year's fiasco.
He was allowed to dismantle the roster, with approval from athletic director John Currie
So they got together and last season's departures were all planned? Has this been common knowledge and discussed?
On top of that Currie covered for oscar and lied to the fan base by blaming it on transfer epidemic, not a planned dismantling.
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If you plan to live on bread, lunkmeat, and.water, you want these to be safe. If you are down on oscur, go to the Illinois bb forums. Groce like a meal of dead skunk, moldy biscuits, and sewage water. Things could be worse.
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Things could be worse. Support oscar.
The same asinine logic about to deliver us President Hillary Clinton.
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Oscar, Currie, et. al. have given me a stress free selection Sunday.
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Things could be worse. Support oscar.
The same asinine logic about to deliver us President Hillary Clinton.
the logic is pretty solid for clinton, though. no presidentials underwoods out there.
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that he has us considering the b12 tournament as the "post-season" now
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Calm late March. No worries.
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that he has us considering the b12 tournament as the "post-season" now
It's not just the postseason. It's March Madness.