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Title: DataLew12's Data Corner!
Post by: DQ12 on February 04, 2016, 03:17:54 PM: Hey college football heads! Dlew12 here (the "D" stands for "Data").

Statistically, what's your favorite way to measure whether a team has a good offense or defense? For starters, I think we can all agree that pace has to be a factor.

I'm certainly no expert, but when I look at this stuff, I think yards per play and TO% are the crème de la crème of offensive/defensive metrics.

In talking to others (Mixed Nutz), I've learned that some people actually think Points Per Possession is the best indicator. My problem with that is that it ignores starting field position, which is mostly a function of a team's offense and special teams.

What say you?? Let's talk DATA!
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Post by: kso_FAN on February 04, 2016, 03:24:07 PM: I like points per play and TO% also. I think points per drive has some merit as well.

I usually look at the two systems that footballoutsiders.com uses.

FEI accounts for First Down Rate, Available Yards Percentage, Explosive Drives, Methodical Drives, and Value Drives. Definitions and this year's ratings are here: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/feioff

S&P accounts for efficiency, explosiveness, field position, finishing drives, and turnovers using a number of different factors. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaaoff

I like looking at all this stuff and its tough to narrow it down, but if I had to go with an easy measure I'd use a combo of points and yards per play.
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 04, 2016, 03:25:41 PM: what does LEW stand for????
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Post by: Emo EMAW on February 04, 2016, 03:29:26 PM: 3rd down efficiency
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Post by: kso_FAN on February 04, 2016, 03:30:58 PM: http://www.bcftoys.com/ is also really good.
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Post by: DQ12 on February 04, 2016, 03:52:24 PM: THANK YOU, FAN.

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Post by: Shooter Jones on February 04, 2016, 03:53:59 PM: Touchdowns per game.
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Post by: 'taterblast on February 04, 2016, 04:17:07 PM: touchdowns per possession that starts on their side of the 50, because that's a stat
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Post by: Pete on February 04, 2016, 07:44:49 PM: I measure teams using my gut, mostly.
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Post by: mocat on February 04, 2016, 08:09:23 PM: Ypp run, ypp pass, ypp total, ppp. Factor as you wish
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Post by: wetwillie on February 04, 2016, 09:06:18 PM: Plays run per minute for Offense, Penalties assessed against for Defense.
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Post by: _33 on February 04, 2016, 10:58:19 PM: I mostly use the "eye test". Eye standing for Effective Yardage Efficiency.
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Post by: Trim on February 04, 2016, 11:14:13 PM: W/L vs. EMAW.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 04, 2016, 11:55:55 PM: Purely on looks and do they get girls.
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Post by: slobber on February 05, 2016, 05:05:55 AM: Girth and length.

Gonna win 'em all! (using Tapatalk)
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Post by: MadCat on February 05, 2016, 08:31:37 AM: TWSS