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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: kso_FAN on January 08, 2016, 12:48:44 PM
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1st installment of Big 12 4 Factors for 2016! Keep in mind, numbers are pretty crazy because of the small sample size.
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numbers are pretty crazy because of the small sample size.
it's so weird to see osu atop kstate in 3% defense.
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15.8% 3PT%. :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
how is that even possible?
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Terrible shooters and we're actually pretty good at not turning it over, seems like oscar might want to run the floor instead of waiting for Hopper to take a guarded 30 footer with 1 second on the shot clock
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RPI is weird. Tech is 7th?
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RPI is weird. Tech is 7th?
it's not weird so much as bad at doing what it purports to do.
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RPI is weird. Tech is 7th?
this article does a nice job breaking down why the rpi kinda sucks
http://basketballpredictions.blogspot.com/2015/12/how-to-inflate-your-resume-how-texas.html?m=1 (http://basketballpredictions.blogspot.com/2015/12/how-to-inflate-your-resume-how-texas.html?m=1)
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No way we continue shooting that poorly. I've got to think that would be historically awful
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No way we continue shooting that poorly. I've got to think that would be historically awful
I also don't think we can continue to defend the 3 as well as we are.
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3 gms now Offensivly...
0.98 PPP
44% eFG
14-64 from 3pt ( 21.9%)
Those are numbers for a 4-5 win team in B12.
Gotta be more like 48% eFG, 1.05-1.06 PPP and 33-34% from 3pt
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Those are numbers for a 4-5 win team in B12.
Gotta be more like 48% eFG, 1.05-1.06 PPP and 33-34% from 3pt
There's no reason that shouldn't be achievable.
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A lot of ridiculous looking numbers only 3 games in; ie. only 3 teams have a positive PPP differential right now.
For example, Baylor setting the pace with the league's best offense and also the worst (and very terrible) defense.
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A lot of ridiculous looking numbers only 3 games in; ie. only 3 teams have a positive PPP differential right now.
For example, Baylor setting the pace with the league's best offense and also the worst (and very terrible) defense.
Whole thing is batshit crazy. Baylor number one offense, 9th eFG%. Tech #1 in 2pt% dif, 10# in 3pt% diff. OSU is doing a lot of things really really well and is pretty shitty. Baylor is just bi-polar as crap.
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A lot of ridiculous looking numbers only 3 games in; ie. only 3 teams have a positive PPP differential right now.
For example, Baylor setting the pace with the league's best offense and also the worst (and very terrible) defense.
Whole thing is batshit crazy. Baylor number one offense, 9th eFG%. Tech #1 in 2pt% dif, 10# in 3pt% diff. OSU is doing a lot of things really really well and is pretty shitty. Baylor is just bi-polar as crap.
I made some corrections, some of that was wrong. Still a lot of crazy.
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A lot of ridiculous looking numbers only 3 games in; ie. only 3 teams have a positive PPP differential right now.
For example, Baylor setting the pace with the league's best offense and also the worst (and very terrible) defense.
Whole thing is batshit crazy. Baylor number one offense, 9th eFG%. Tech #1 in 2pt% dif, 10# in 3pt% diff. OSU is doing a lot of things really really well and is pretty shitty. Baylor is just bi-polar as crap.
I made some corrections, some of that was wrong. Still a lot of crazy.
Thats a lot better, but still crazy. If we can find a way to knock down some threes and lock down on the 2pt defense we can get into the meat of the league and find that bubble life.
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Thats a lot better, but still crazy. If we can find a way to knock down some threes and lock down on the 2pt defense we can get into the meat of the league and find that bubble life.
I agree. I suppose I'm crazy/dumb enough to still believe its possible. This will be a big week.
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Thats a lot better, but still crazy. If we can find a way to knock down some threes and lock down on the 2pt defense we can get into the meat of the league and find that bubble life.
I agree. I suppose I'm crazy/dumb enough to still believe its possible. This will be a big week.
Big big week. Both games are projected as grinders. Win both and a good chance our projected conference record is 8-10, having us firmly on bubble town USA.
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I just don't see the Cats having enough on the floor leadership to be able to make it to 6 wins. Thus no tourney for us. Our upperclassmen can't put it together. Stokes can't seem to shoot again. Leaning on Brown and Wade to carry us is not going to work long term. Hurt, Wes, and hopper need to pick it up and be consistent every game. I hope I eat my words. If they can keep the freshman around long enough so they can become the leaders in the future(which history shows is not probably likely), the future looks pretty okay if they can get some help at the center spot.
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33%. :frown:
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33%. :frown:
Our overall ranking and Big 12 only ranking are the same!
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We are 1/3 through the Big 12 schedule...
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Note: K-State currently leads the league in FT% defense.
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The RPI hates the cats and loves the horns
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We are 1/3 through the Big 12 schedule...
Note: K-State currently leads the league in FT% defense.
Is FT% defense an actual stat? I thought the point of free throws was that there was no defense involved (LFT%IQ).
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We are 1/3 through the Big 12 schedule...
Note: K-State currently leads the league in FT% defense.
Is FT% defense an actual stat? I thought the point of free throws was that there was no defense involved (LFT%IQ).
:)
http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/is_free_throw_defense_real
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Good things....We are best in B12 in TOs forced, above league ave in OR and FTR, and have shot 71.5% from the FT line since bad 1st half (7-17) of B12 opener
Bad things...Other than our obvious bad/inconsistent eFG and 3pt shooting, we need to lower our TO% and be better on DR%. Also our Opp have shot 50.0% or better from 2pt in 6 of the 7 games (52.0% or higher in the 5 losses)
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We are 1/3 through the Big 12 schedule...
Note: K-State currently leads the league in FT% defense.
Is FT% defense an actual stat? I thought the point of free throws was that there was no defense involved (LFT%IQ).
:)
http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/is_free_throw_defense_real
Insightful. That makes it seem like good FT% defense indicates a well coached team, though.
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According to my calculations, KU in their last 7 games has ....
Off PPP 1.03 Def PPP 1.06
That's kinda stunning.
Ksu 7 gms, we are at 1.06 and 1.07
In both teams last 7, Ksu played Baylor, KU played Tcu, and we both faced 6 similar teams
Just shows how poor KU has played, cause our play hasn't been anything to brag about
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Updated Big 12 numbers:
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Its strange to see KU in the middle in efficiency differential. It will also be interesting to see how long WVU's great defense can carry a pretty poor offense.
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Also, this is what kenpom says about the Big 12/SEC challenge. Looks about right.
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Halfway through Big 12 play.
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eFG% offense and defense for the Cats are not good. That's a bad combination if you want to win any games.
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Wish there was a way to adjust Baylors ast% due to their bat crap crazy score keeper.
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Big 12 trends since 2003 for advanced stats.
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looks like trading Roy for Self killed pace in this league
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looks like trading Roy for Self killed pace in this league
Sort of. It is interesting to look at the Big 12 (right) compared to NCAA as a whole (left):
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1) Only 1 of our losses were we 33.3% (we shot 5-10) or above on 3pt. And that game we only took 16% of our shots from 3pt. Plus in that game we also shot a worst 38.9% on 2pt ( shot 46.0% or better on 2pt in 6 of the 8 losses)
2) Last 8 B12 games, we have a TO% of 24.2. We also turned ball over 1/4 of Poss vs Ole Miss.
In last 9 games overall, we have had a higher TO% than our Opp.
3) Our OR% is about the same in our Losses as in our wins.
Our FTR is a respectable 37.9 and we have shot 70% on FTs in the 8 losses
4) Obviously eFG has been the huge difference in the wins vs the losses. We have been under 48.0 in every loss. 66,65, and 59% in the wins
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It's incredible how bad this team is at 3s. But then when you watch the games, they take a lot of guarded, off-balance, or fade away 3s because the shot clock is expiring.
Shocking that passing the ball back and forth between Edwards and Westicles with no movement doesn't open up better shots.
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Congrats Bill. (again)
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Come on Iowa State dude. I mean, I know you can find the stats and make the charts like this on your own, anyone can really, but I've been doing this for several years. I'm certain he didn't just come up with the idea out of the blue.
https://twitter.com/khaal53/status/700749752221077504
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yours looks a million times better fan.
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yours looks a million times better fan.
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thanks for reading the board kirk
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I decided to compile the per 100s for the entire Big 12. Minimum was 50% of minutes played to make the list.
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The Cats come all the way back to take over the assistketball lead with only 1 game to go!
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The end.
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:clap:
This never goes unapprrciated, I can assure you.