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Title: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: kso_FAN on January 05, 2016, 10:17:10 PM
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Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: Cire on January 05, 2016, 10:20:10 PM
That second half to rate, woof


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Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: kso_FAN on January 05, 2016, 10:26:53 PM
We can't shoot.

We can't have Westicles and Stokes both have awful nights.

Too many flaws.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: Cire on January 05, 2016, 10:29:06 PM
Wait a year right? So close right? Just one more piece right?


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Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 05, 2016, 10:31:29 PM
The thread should have been "clawless"! :curse:
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: kso_FAN on January 05, 2016, 10:34:44 PM

Wait a year right? So close right? Just one more piece right?


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Tournament is the standard. The flaws and roster situation was created by the current staff. They've got to fix it and find a way to win games.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 05, 2016, 10:35:10 PM
Great thread title imo.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 05, 2016, 10:37:37 PM
hey _FAN, status of:

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Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: kso_FAN on January 05, 2016, 10:40:05 PM

hey _FAN, status of:

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 :dunno:

I'm very frustrated, but I'm not to that point yet. We'll see.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 05, 2016, 10:41:58 PM
Point 1 --
Last 6 games from 3Pt.... 23-110 (21%)
Brown is 9-23, so everyone else is 14-87.
6-38 in 2 B12 games and one of those makes was a freaking bank shot.

Point 2--
Defense was pretty good most of the night, but with us up 48-44 with 6:00 left, they got 14 pts the next 7 poss.   Gotta get a stop with game on the line

Westicles only 1 Reb and 0 Asst to go with his 1-6 FG.  2 lackluster B12 games now for him

Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: catastrophe on January 05, 2016, 11:00:49 PM
Watch us destroy OU.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 05, 2016, 11:03:23 PM

Wait a year right? So close right? Just one more piece right?


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Tournament is the standard. The flaws and roster situation was created by the current staff. They've got to fix it and find a way to win games.

You say all that but I don't really think you mean it.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: pvegs on January 05, 2016, 11:09:35 PM
and to think some of you scoffed when MIR said this team had a v. wooly feel.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: michigancat on January 05, 2016, 11:13:00 PM
This season is a success for oscar no matter what happens the rest of the way.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 05, 2016, 11:24:20 PM
This season is a success for oscar no matter what happens the rest of the way.

I may be overestimating the tucks, but although they will never admit defeat in the Martin vs Weber argument, I think if this season goes south badly that a fair amount of them will consent to hating both and forget the former argument entirely. Then oscar is in the crosshairs, and that is certainly not in his best interest.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: michigancat on January 05, 2016, 11:25:40 PM
This season is a success for oscar no matter what happens the rest of the way.

I may be overestimating the tucks, but although they will never admit defeat in the Martin vs Weber argument, I think if this season goes south badly that a fair amount of them will consent to hating both and forget the former argument entirely. Then oscar is in the crosshairs, and that is certainly not in his best interest.
I attended the game at intrust and don't believe you are correct. We have Claws and no bad apples and almost beat West Virginia. He's golden.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: yoman on January 05, 2016, 11:30:43 PM
This season is a success for oscar no matter what happens the rest of the way.

I may be overestimating the tucks, but although they will never admit defeat in the Martin vs Weber argument, I think if this season goes south badly that a fair amount of them will consent to hating both and forget the former argument entirely. Then oscar is in the crosshairs, and that is certainly not in his best interest.
I attended the game at intrust and don't believe you are correct. We have Claws and no bad apples and almost beat West Virginia. He's golden.

Yup. Chigs was right in his prediction last year. Sit tight and enjoy the random good oscar years and wins when they happen, we have lost this one.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: kso_FAN on January 05, 2016, 11:31:15 PM

Wait a year right? So close right? Just one more piece right?


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Tournament is the standard. The flaws and roster situation was created by the current staff. They've got to fix it and find a way to win games.

You say all that but I don't really think you mean it.

Ok.

I attended the game at intrust and don't believe you are correct. We have Claws and no bad apples and almost beat West Virginia. He's golden.

This is probably true.

Also, we will probably beat at least one of OU/KU/ISU. Its just what oscar does.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 05, 2016, 11:32:10 PM
This season is a success for oscar no matter what happens the rest of the way.

I may be overestimating the tucks, but although they will never admit defeat in the Martin vs Weber argument, I think if this season goes south badly that a fair amount of them will consent to hating both and forget the former argument entirely. Then oscar is in the crosshairs, and that is certainly not in his best interest.
I attended the game at intrust and don't believe you are correct. We have Claws and no bad apples and almost beat West Virginia. He's golden.

I may not be right, but I won't accept that until it's present reality. The interim is just too damn depressing, which I must think is somehow worse than the actuality of oscar being lifetime coach of the Cats. John Currie has got us all between a rock and oscar Weber...a really shitty place to be.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: Skipper44 on January 05, 2016, 11:32:15 PM
He is only in trouble if he has less than 4 wins in conf WITHOUT a win over KU imo.  I still have hope Brad can motivate the "western Kansas  tucks" in to action
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: bones129 on January 05, 2016, 11:32:19 PM
Did oscar revert to talking about his Play Hard Chart in postgame? Usually follows a loss.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: michigancat on January 05, 2016, 11:32:55 PM



Wait a year right? So close right? Just one more piece right?


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Tournament is the standard. The flaws and roster situation was created by the current staff. They've got to fix it and find a way to win games.

You say all that but I don't really think you mean it.

Ok.

I attended the game at intrust and don't believe you are correct. We have Claws and no bad apples and almost beat West Virginia. He's golden.

This is probably true.

Also, we will probably beat at least one of OU/KU/ISU. Its just what oscar does.

Heck, 1 of 6 week probably get him an extension.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: sys on January 05, 2016, 11:33:41 PM
held ut to 26.1% from 3.   :)
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: sys on January 05, 2016, 11:36:22 PM
good enough to move into first place!   :ksu:
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: kso_FAN on January 05, 2016, 11:36:48 PM
held ut to 26.1% from 3.   :)

Well, we are the #1 3PT% defense in the country, sys.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: kso_FAN on January 05, 2016, 11:37:47 PM
good enough to move into first place!   :ksu:

We also surpassed Texas in kenpom, even with the loss.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: CatsFan_58 on January 05, 2016, 11:40:46 PM

This season is a success for oscar no matter what happens the rest of the way.

I may be overestimating the tucks, but although they will never admit defeat in the Martin vs Weber argument, I think if this season goes south badly that a fair amount of them will consent to hating both and forget the former argument entirely. Then oscar is in the crosshairs, and that is certainly not in his best interest.
I attended the game at intrust and don't believe you are correct. We have Claws and no bad apples and almost beat West Virginia. He's golden.

I may not be right, but I won't accept that until it's present reality. The interim is just too damn depressing, which I must think is somehow worse than the actuality of oscar being lifetime coach of the Cats. John Currie has got us all between a rock and oscar Weber...a really shitty place to be.
can we get some art depicting this? Between a rock and a oscar Weber


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Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: sys on January 05, 2016, 11:46:15 PM
good enough to move into first place!   :ksu:

We also surpassed Texas in kenpom, even with the loss.

what a night!
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: renocat on January 06, 2016, 06:30:14 AM
Holefighters.  Jump in a hole.  Fight like hell. The oscar Holefighters.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: kso_FAN on January 06, 2016, 07:09:32 AM

held ut to 26.1% from 3.   :)

Well, we are the #1 3PT% defense in the country, sys.

And by contrast, we are nearly last offensively in 3pt%. Only 7 teams in the country shoot worse from 3.
Title: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 06, 2016, 07:11:56 AM
John Currie is not available this morning, he's holed in a Dallas hotel room conjuring up new deflective marketing slogans.

Hotel staffer insiders say a large white board is about half full so far.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: kso_FAN on January 06, 2016, 07:53:29 AM
I mean, we couldn't be any more fool's goldy. When Wooly preached to us about it, this is the team he was talking about.

For 2 Big 12 games in the 2nd half/OTs the Cats are 1-21 from behind the arc (4.7%). Its really amazing shooting ineptituge.

If you've watched every K-State basketball game this year, you've only seen teams combine to make 26.0% of their 3PT attempts.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: wetwillie on January 06, 2016, 08:43:41 AM
I really admire you guys that can mount up every year for what you have to know in your heart is going to be failure.  I just don't have the stomach to do it. 
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: kso_FAN on January 06, 2016, 09:01:43 AM
I really admire you guys that can mount up every year for what you have to know in your heart is going to be failure.  I just don't have the stomach to do it. 

Its what I do. I don't have cynical/smart-assy in my nature I guess. I'm sure it makes #brucketball easier to deal with.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2016, 09:20:34 AM
I really admire you guys that can mount up every year for what you have to know in your heart is going to be failure.  I just don't have the stomach to do it.

I watched Jessica Jones last night and checked this blog like 2 hrs after the game to see if I should even.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2016, 09:22:32 AM
I really admire you guys that can mount up every year for what you have to know in your heart is going to be failure.  I just don't have the stomach to do it. 

Its what I do. I don't have cynical/smart-assy in my nature I guess. I'm sure it makes #brucketball easier to deal with.

Surely you have a breaking point where frustration takes over.  I mean, I love what you do for this blog, but you obviously watch the game with your head more than your heart.  At some point your heart has to tell your head to eff off, right?  I think that just happens faster for others.  Not that either is bad. 
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: pvegs on January 06, 2016, 09:59:02 AM
I really admire you guys that can mount up every year for what you have to know in your heart is going to be failure.  I just don't have the stomach to do it. 

Its what I do. I don't have cynical/smart-assy in my nature I guess. I'm sure it makes #brucketball easier to deal with.

i'm with wet willie. i just can't get up for it anymore, and this is not just oscar but stems from decades of wasted time. when we're good, i'll bandwagon the crap out of us, but when we're not i get a lot more enjoyment doing productive things and participating in the bbs'ing aftermath than watching the actual product.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: ChiComCat on January 06, 2016, 10:06:43 AM
I really admire you guys that can mount up every year for what you have to know in your heart is going to be failure.  I just don't have the stomach to do it. 

Its what I do. I don't have cynical/smart-assy in my nature I guess. I'm sure it makes #brucketball easier to deal with.

Wow - I'll ride through any storm with the team but rely pretty heavily on my cynical/smart-assy nature to pull it off.  I can't imagine any other way.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: 'taterblast on January 06, 2016, 10:08:31 AM
the last two games have sent me from optimistic to almost complete apathy. i watched 'Making a Murderer' instead of the game last night. as good as i thought we looked at times in the non-con, we didn't beat ANYONE worth a damn.

the last two games have been close, but it's that that feeling of having absolutely no confidence that they'll find a way to win that ruins it. and with a normal coach/team, i'd be excited about the young players and potential for next year, but oscar has shown no ability to build on that at any point in the last decade.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 06, 2016, 10:11:11 AM
I keep thinking about that old Ozzy song about that road to no where. 

I think that sums up KSUMBB well.

Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: kso_FAN on January 06, 2016, 10:15:48 AM
and with a normal coach/team, i'd be excited about the young players and potential for next year, but oscar has shown no ability to build on that at any point in the last decade.

This is pretty much where I fall, but as an optimist (to a fault) I stay with it.

To be fair, I was unable to watch any of last night's game which I'm sure reduces the frustration with the results of losing another close winnable game.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: MakeItRain on January 06, 2016, 10:18:48 AM
and with a normal coach/team, i'd be excited about the young players and potential for next year, but oscar has shown no ability to build on that at any point in the last decade.

This is pretty much where I fall, but as an optimist (to a fault) I stay with it.

To be fair, I was unable to watch any of last night's game which I'm sure reduces the frustration with the results of losing another close winnable game.

Even while we were winning the result of that game felt very inevitable
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: Trim on January 06, 2016, 10:20:09 AM
Chat was good.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 06, 2016, 10:34:37 AM
and with a normal coach/team, i'd be excited about the young players and potential for next year, but oscar has shown no ability to build on that at any point in the last decade.

This is pretty much where I fall, but as an optimist (to a fault) I stay with it.

To be fair, I was unable to watch any of last night's game which I'm sure reduces the frustration with the results of losing another close winnable game.

Even while we were winning the result of that game felt very inevitable

I kind of felt like that hokey LHC Bill Snyder commercial they played all the time when he came back, and my brain was John Weald saying, "Is there any doubt?"
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: Canary on January 06, 2016, 11:49:17 AM
the last two games have sent me from optimistic to almost complete apathy. i watched 'Making a Murderer' instead of the game last night. as good as i thought we looked at times in the non-con, we didn't beat ANYONE worth a damn.

the last two games have been close, but it's that that feeling of having absolutely no confidence that they'll find a way to win that ruins it. and with a normal coach/team, i'd be excited about the young players and potential for next year, but oscar has shown no ability to build on that at any point in the last decade.
"having absolutely no confidence that they'll find a way to win.."
This is pretty much it for me as well. I felt like being behind more than one point was too deep a hole to dig out of.  And it has been that way most of the year.  I am still wanting to watch every game, and will continue to go, but there is little excitement for me when the game is close at the end and we are behind. I kind of acquiesce to defeat at that point so when the horn sounds its less than shocking.
I also felt that way during the football season. During years past, when we were within ten points in the fourth quarter I was fairly confident we would find a way to win.  This year I never felt that way even one game.
And yes, I will still set expectations and be disappointed...it's better for me than having none.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: sys on January 06, 2016, 11:55:01 AM

held ut to 26.1% from 3.   :)

Well, we are the #1 3PT% defense in the country, sys.

And by contrast, we are nearly last offensively in 3pt%. Only 7 teams in the country shoot worse from 3.


being an extreme outlier is always fun.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: kitten_mittons on January 06, 2016, 12:00:39 PM
This season has been played exactly how Jim Wooldridge would have drawn it up.

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Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: pissclams on January 06, 2016, 01:02:24 PM
sys and renocat have a lot of explaining to do, this team sucks
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2016, 01:26:02 PM
This season has been played exactly how Jim Wooldridge would have drawn it up.

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Yep.  9 losses by a total of something like 14 pts one year.  Infuriatingly infuriating
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: sys on January 06, 2016, 01:28:26 PM
sys and renocat have a lot of explaining to do, this team sucks

maybe you missed that kstate climbed over ut in the kenpoms last night.
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: pvegs on January 06, 2016, 01:36:51 PM
the last two games have sent me from optimistic to almost complete apathy. i watched 'Making a Murderer' instead of the game last night. as good as i thought we looked at times in the non-con, we didn't beat ANYONE worth a damn.

the last two games have been close, but it's that that feeling of having absolutely no confidence that they'll find a way to win that ruins it. and with a normal coach/team, i'd be excited about the young players and potential for next year, but oscar has shown no ability to build on that at any point in the last decade.
"having absolutely no confidence that they'll find a way to win.."
This is pretty much it for me as well. I felt like being behind more than one point was too deep a hole to dig out of.  And it has been that way most of the year.  I am still wanting to watch every game, and will continue to go, but there is little excitement for me when the game is close at the end and we are behind. I kind of acquiesce to defeat at that point so when the horn sounds its less than shocking.
I also felt that way during the football season. During years past, when we were within ten points in the fourth quarter I was fairly confident we would find a way to win.  This year I never felt that way even one game.
And yes, I will still set expectations and be disappointed...it's better for me than having none.

LOL. There have been two semi-clutch kstate teams in my lifetime and they are 2011 football and 2009-10 and as a kstate fan conditioned to choking I was shocked by both
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: pissclams on January 06, 2016, 03:53:09 PM
anthony beane on the 93 team was the clutchiest player ever at kstate powercats
Title: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: kso_FAN on January 06, 2016, 04:25:24 PM
anthony beane on the 93 team was the clutchiest player ever at kstate powercats

Yes!

Cardiac Cats!
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: wetwillie on January 06, 2016, 04:30:19 PM
The only cats team to win a big 12 championship in basketball was fairly clutch IIRC. 
Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: sys on January 06, 2016, 04:32:55 PM
The only cats team to win a big 12 championship in basketball was fairly clutch IIRC.

medium clutchy.

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Title: Re: L-Austin Translation; UT ADV
Post by: pvegs on January 06, 2016, 07:05:56 PM
anthony beane on the 93 team was the clutchiest player ever at kstate powercats

Yes!

Cardiac Cats!

that overtime win @o-state  :love: