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Title: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: BMWWcat on December 13, 2015, 10:43:14 AM
Guess the 2 running backs, and guess which one won the Heisman...

RUNNING BACK A) 306 attempts, 1986 yards, 16TD's, 6.5 YPA, 25 receptions for 287 yards and 2 TD's against 4 teams that finished in the top 25
RUNNING BACK B) 339 attempts, 1986 yards, 23TD's, 5.9 YPA,  10 receptions for 97 yards and 0TD's against 4 teams that finished in the top 25
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: wetwillie on December 13, 2015, 11:13:54 AM
One of those running backs carried his team to the CFP, the other...did not.
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: The Big Train on December 13, 2015, 11:18:51 AM
heisman has been a joke for quite some time
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: BMWWcat on December 13, 2015, 11:19:38 AM
Says ESPN???
Behind his NFL o-line???

One of those running backs carried his team to the CFP, the other...did not.
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Post by: idontgiveAdam_713 on December 13, 2015, 12:32:23 PM
Who should have won?
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Post by: wetwillie on December 13, 2015, 12:58:00 PM
the gutsy white kid
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2015, 01:00:45 PM
Sam B. Richardson?


I thought McCaffery was better but Henry broke the SEC rushing record and played against better defenses.
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Post by: star seed 7 on December 13, 2015, 01:02:12 PM
I thought it was a sproles thing, but I'm not a stats guy
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Post by: idontgiveAdam_713 on December 13, 2015, 01:10:46 PM
 :emawkid:
the gutsy white kid

Racist
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Post by: catastrophe on December 13, 2015, 01:37:56 PM

heisman has been a joke for quite some time
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: wetwillie on December 13, 2015, 02:00:47 PM
When Klein didn't win I lost all respect for the award.
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2015, 02:15:49 PM
When Klein didn't win I lost all respect for the award.

Even though Manziel had better numbers across the board? Bishop and Sproles we're much bigger ripoffs.
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: HerrSonntag on December 13, 2015, 02:34:44 PM
When Klein didn't win I lost all respect for the award.

Even though Manziel had better numbers across the board? Bishop and Sproles we're much bigger ripoffs.
IIRC, A&M had a pretty light schedule that year, outside of the 'Bama upset, and all those big numbers came from their powderpuff non-con.  If someone can find it, i thought K-State pulled the numbers versus ranked (or top 50?) opponents, and comparing those numbers to Manzels blew Johnny out of the water.
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Post by: Missouriscribe on December 13, 2015, 02:42:36 PM
When Klein didn't win I lost all respect for the award.

Even though Manziel had better numbers across the board? Bishop and Sproles we're much bigger ripoffs.
IIRC, A&M had a pretty light schedule that year, outside of the 'Bama upset, and all those big numbers came from their powderpuff non-con.  If someone can find it, i thought K-State pulled the numbers versus ranked (or top 50?) opponents, and comparing those numbers to Manzels blew Johnny out of the water.

This. He had a groundswell of flavor of the month Jeremy Lin/ Stephen Strasburg like support from a bunch of nerdy sports guys whose best arguments were along the lines of "he has a really cool nickname."
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2015, 02:49:04 PM
When Klein didn't win I lost all respect for the award.

Even though Manziel had better numbers across the board? Bishop and Sproles we're much bigger ripoffs.
IIRC, A&M had a pretty light schedule that year, outside of the 'Bama upset, and all those big numbers came from their powderpuff non-con.  If someone can find it, i thought K-State pulled the numbers versus ranked (or top 50?) opponents, and comparing those numbers to Manzels blew Johnny out of the water.

This. He had a groundswell of flavor of the month Jeremy Lin/ Stephen Strasburg like support from a bunch of nerdy sports guys whose best arguments were along the lines of "he has a really cool nickname."

Klein had the heisman won until the Baylor game. Even after the TCU game where his numbers were meh he was still considered the frontrunner.
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: Missouriscribe on December 13, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
good point. Maybe it was the timing of that game more than anything. I think back to 98, and Ricky Williams' crappy game against us didn't hurt him too much. Manti Teo wasn't going to win it.
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: We Are Better Than You on December 13, 2015, 03:34:03 PM
When Klein didn't win I lost all respect for the award.

 :lol: 

Wasn't he that QB we spanked in the 2012 Cotton Bowl?

Yeah - he was good. Which NFL team does he play for, again?
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: Missouriscribe on December 13, 2015, 03:53:54 PM
If there's anything we've learned from college to NFL transitions, it's how NFL accomplishments relate college value. Know who told me that?

Matt Jones*

*FWIW, he then skulked off to a bathroom and did 9 lines of cocaine.
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: We Are Better Than You on December 13, 2015, 04:07:31 PM
If there's anything we've learned from college to NFL transitions, it's how NFL accomplishments relate college value. Know who told me that?

Matt Jones*

*FWIW, he then skulked off to a bathroom and did 9 lines of cocaine.

You didn't answer the question.
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on December 13, 2015, 04:13:56 PM
If there's anything we've learned from college to NFL transitions, it's how NFL accomplishments relate college value. Know who told me that?

Matt Jones*

*FWIW, he then skulked off to a bathroom and did 9 lines of cocaine.

You didn't answer the question.

That's the first rule of being a troll. you never answer questions, unless its with more questions.
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: Missouriscribe on December 13, 2015, 04:15:20 PM
ok, I did a google search for you (we have Google Fiber up here. You'll hear about it in 10 years, maybe). Looks like Matt Jones last suited up for Cincinnati in 2010.
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on December 13, 2015, 04:17:12 PM
ok, I did a google search for you (we have Google Fiber up here. You'll hear about it in 10 years, maybe). Looks like Matt Jones last suited up for Cincinnati in 2010.

have**
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: wetwillie on December 13, 2015, 04:17:54 PM
When Klein didn't win I lost all respect for the award.

 :lol: 

Wasn't he that QB we spanked in the 2012 Cotton Bowl?

Yeah - he was good. Which NFL team does he play for, again?

He didn't make a roster you bad person
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 13, 2015, 04:22:00 PM
The Heisman's been a joke since the brooks bartha snub
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: We Are Better Than You on December 13, 2015, 06:37:55 PM
When Klein didn't win I lost all respect for the award.

 :lol: 

Wasn't he that QB we spanked in the 2012 Cotton Bowl?

Yeah - he was good. Which NFL team does he play for, again?

He didn't make a roster you bad person

 :Take the Bait:
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Post by: Tobias on December 13, 2015, 11:28:58 PM

The Heisman's been a joke since the brooks bartha snub

"like"
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: DQ12 on December 14, 2015, 09:36:05 AM
klein pretty clearly didn't deserve to win the heisman.
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Post by: SdK on December 14, 2015, 09:45:46 AM
klein pretty clearly didn't deserve to win the heisman.
Heretic
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Post by: Katpappy on December 14, 2015, 10:06:29 AM
klein pretty clearly didn't deserve to win the heisman.
The EMAW in this one... lacking.
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: AbeFroman on December 14, 2015, 11:23:52 AM
When Klein didn't win I lost all respect for the award.

Even though Manziel had better numbers across the board? Bishop and Sproles we're much bigger ripoffs.

Sproles not even getting an invite was just infuriating.
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on December 14, 2015, 11:55:08 AM
I personally would have given it to Deshaun.  I think without him Clemson is probably a 3 loss team. I think Henry was the least deserving.  You could stick just about any RB in the country on Alabama and get high production. Christian is only a Sophomore though so he'll have a shot next year and unless he graduates early he'll probably be around for his Senior year as well.
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on December 14, 2015, 11:56:08 AM
When Klein didn't win I lost all respect for the award.

Even though Manziel had better numbers across the board? Bishop and Sproles we're much bigger ripoffs.

Sproles not even getting an invite was just infuriating.

Yeah, that was complete crap.
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on December 14, 2015, 12:03:23 PM
One of those running backs carried his team to the CFP, the other...did not.

Bama would be in the CFP with or without Henry. Plug and Play RB U.
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2016, 06:12:31 PM
Jabril Peppers as a heisman finalist  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: WildcatPower on December 05, 2016, 06:15:06 PM
When Klein didn't win I lost all respect for the award.

Even though Manziel had better numbers across the board? Bishop and Sproles we're much bigger ripoffs.
IIRC, A&M had a pretty light schedule that year, outside of the 'Bama upset, and all those big numbers came from their powderpuff non-con.  If someone can find it, i thought K-State pulled the numbers versus ranked (or top 50?) opponents, and comparing those numbers to Manzels blew Johnny out of the water.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F8328-presscdn-0-65.pagely.netdna-cdn.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F12%2Fjohnny-manziel-collin-klein-heisman-trophy-570x394.png&hash=a7df658787babac474e64b80a4019dc5725fc033)
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: GregKSU1027 on December 08, 2016, 02:51:59 PM
When Klein didn't win I lost all respect for the award.

Even though Manziel had better numbers across the board? Bishop and Sproles we're much bigger ripoffs.
IIRC, A&M had a pretty light schedule that year, outside of the 'Bama upset, and all those big numbers came from their powderpuff non-con.  If someone can find it, i thought K-State pulled the numbers versus ranked (or top 50?) opponents, and comparing those numbers to Manzels blew Johnny out of the water.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F8328-presscdn-0-65.pagely.netdna-cdn.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F12%2Fjohnny-manziel-collin-klein-heisman-trophy-570x394.png&hash=a7df658787babac474e64b80a4019dc5725fc033)
The turnovers is what lost CK7 the Heisman

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Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: StarsBravesKSU on December 08, 2016, 03:06:43 PM
Jabril Peppers as a heisman finalist  :ROFL:

and Mayfield.  He's had a good season, but you could argue that Mahomes would be the frontrunner for the Heisman right now if him and Mayfield  switched jerseys.
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: Deez Nutz on December 08, 2016, 04:26:53 PM
When Klein didn't win I lost all respect for the award.

Even though Manziel had better numbers across the board? Bishop and Sproles we're much bigger ripoffs.
IIRC, A&M had a pretty light schedule that year, outside of the 'Bama upset, and all those big numbers came from their powderpuff non-con.  If someone can find it, i thought K-State pulled the numbers versus ranked (or top 50?) opponents, and comparing those numbers to Manzels blew Johnny out of the water.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F8328-presscdn-0-65.pagely.netdna-cdn.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F12%2Fjohnny-manziel-collin-klein-heisman-trophy-570x394.png&hash=a7df658787babac474e64b80a4019dc5725fc033)
The turnovers is what lost CK7 the Heisman

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6 TOs over 8 games is fewer per game than 5 TOs over 4 games.   :Chirp:
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: star seed 7 on December 08, 2016, 05:49:24 PM
Great investigative work, deez nutz
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Post by: Tobias on December 08, 2016, 05:51:45 PM
needle in a haystack, if you will
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Post by: Brock Landers on December 08, 2016, 05:55:19 PM
I'm just glad we're getting to the bottom of this 4 years later.
Title: Re: Heisman is a joke...
Post by: 1863 on December 09, 2016, 09:13:16 AM
Can we claim Heismans like A&M claims conference and national titles?


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