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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: kso_FAN on December 12, 2015, 06:54:05 PM
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Wes and DJamer came to play and the Cats battled back from a bunch of aTm's runs, but there just wasn't enough defense. You can't allow anyone to shoot 60% and expect to win. Also, shooting continues to be an issue and a sick Wade didn't help. This loss doesn't sink this team by any measn, but a road win against a tournament team would've been a nice step.
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Poor shooting and post defense will be tough to overcome in conference play.
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I'd be pretty confident about a Tourney berth if we played in the Pac 12 or SEC,but the Big 12 looks brutal this year. :frown:
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We are a lock for the NIT for sure.
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NIT maybe. The fact that we have rough ridin' Budke out there in crunch time pisses me off beyond belief.
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NIT maybe. The fact that we have rough ridin' Budke out there in crunch time pisses me off beyond belief.
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Wade was sick.
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hmm, we played tonight?
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it was actually late afternoon
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It wouldn't have mattered too much, but not fouling at the 1 minute mark after a timeout was infuriating.
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It wouldn't have mattered too much, but not fouling at the 1 minute mark after a timeout was infuriating.
Agreed. Playing D down 5 there doesn't make sense, even with a shorter shot clock.
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It wouldn't have mattered too much, but not fouling at the 1 minute mark after a timeout was infuriating.
Agreed. Playing D down 5 there doesn't make sense, even with a shorter shot clock.
I also know that I am unfairly harsh on Hopper, but my God he is frustrating. Why are we running plays for him to take 3's?
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It wouldn't have mattered too much, but not fouling at the 1 minute mark after a timeout was infuriating.
Agreed. Playing D down 5 there doesn't make sense, even with a shorter shot clock.
Many things Bruceketball carries out are lacking in sense and infuriating. It's part of his charm.
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#oscar was at his oscar-iest on the postgame radio, but it looks like kstatesports doesn't keep the audio up anymore. :frown:
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NIT maybe. The fact that we have rough ridin' Budke out there in crunch time pisses me off beyond belief.
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Wade was sick.
Oh I know, that doesn't change it for me
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There was a four-minute span after the intentional foul turnover in which we didn't ge a good shot off. The problem was compounded by the fact aTm was scoring nearly every time so we weren't getting anything in transition.
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Stupid passes destroyed us. Young team making young mistakes, was surprised we made it as interesting as we did
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There was a four-minute span after the intentional foul turnover in which we didn't ge a good shot off. The problem was compounded by the fact aTm was scoring nearly every time so we weren't getting anything in transition.
Yeah, giving up 21-3 runs will get you beat on the road every time.
Still, not a devastating loss. We must win the rest of our OOC games and win at least 9 league games (maybe 10) to go to the tournament. I still have hope.
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The Budke hate is a weird thing for me. It's not his fault he's playing and he's probably the best walk-on we've had, since Sky!
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We couldn't get into our offense all game. The aTm zone and switching/over playing man pretty much kept us 25' from the basket the duration of our half court sets. That has got to improve. We aren't going to be able to "shoot" (relative term) our way out of it every night like we did last night.
Steven Hurt needs to commit himself to playing a modicum of defense.
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didn't realize we had the best unis in the world again
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There was a four-minute span after the intentional foul turnover in which we didn't ge a good shot off. The problem was compounded by the fact aTm was scoring nearly every time so we weren't getting anything in transition.
Yeah, giving up 21-3 runs will get you beat on the road every time.
Still, not a devastating loss. We must win the rest of our OOC games and win at least 9 league games (maybe 10) to go to the tournament. I still have hope.
Dunno if devastating is the correct word but a win would definitely be nice security from the bubble should that come to pass. Only so many opportunities to get good wins.
I agree with that. I'm just implying that devastating losses in the OOC would be to anyone besides Carolina or aTm. Those are the losses that knock you off the bubble unless you manage a bunch of big league wins and we haven't done that yet.
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Steven Hurt needs to commit himself to playing a modicum of defense.
Big Meat is painful and infuriating to watch on defense.
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The Budke hate is a weird thing for me. It's not his fault he's playing and he's probably the best walk-on we've had, since Sky!
I mean, just reread your sentence and you don't know why the hate?
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The Budke hate is a weird thing for me. It's not his fault he's playing and he's probably the best walk-on we've had, since Sky!
Nobody hates him although I think his beard is ridiculously stupid. We hate that he was in at the end of a single digit game guarding the point guard. That wasn't a switch either, oscar Weber actually told hot horndogs to try to stay in front of a power conference starting point guard :ROFL:
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I'd be pretty confident about a Tourney berth if we played in the Pac 12 or SEC,but the Big 12 looks brutal this year. :frown:
We wouldn't be in a different boat in any of those conferences because we will have a whole bunch of road games where we looked like we did the last two. The Georgia game is our road ceiling, the A&M game is how we'll normally look on the road, and we'll have a couple of games where we'll get absolutely housed on the road and one of those games will be against a school like Baylor, UT, OSU, or Tech. For the record it looks like the Pac 12 will be very good this season.
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I'd be pretty confident about a Tourney berth if we played in the Pac 12 or SEC,but the Big 12 looks brutal this year. :frown:
We wouldn't be in a different boat in any of those conferences because we will have a whole bunch of road games where we looked like we did the last two. The Georgia game is our road ceiling, the A&M game is how we'll normally look on the road, and we'll have a couple of games where we'll get absolutely housed on the road and one of those games will be against a school like Baylor, UT, OSU, or Tech.
absolutely this. was hoping to see something better yesterday. at least we didn't fold completely, i guess, but it felt too much like last year.
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I firmly believe we can beat teams like TCU, OSU, and Tech if we play like we did yesterday. Granted, aTm is probably not better than 5th/6th in the Big 12, but the top of our league is good. aTm will be a tournament team.
Getting at least 3 road wins in the league will be key, then go no worse than 7-2 at home; 10-8 will probably get us in.
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Royals euphoria has almost completely wore off. :frown:
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I firmly believe we can beat teams like TCU, OSU, and Tech if we play like we did yesterday. Granted, aTm is probably not better than 5th/6th in the Big 12, but the top of our league is good. aTm will be a tournament team.
Getting at least 3 road wins in the league will be key, then go no worse than 7-2 at home; 10-8 will probably get us in.
Yeah you're right about all of this. Playing like we did yesterday will result in one possession road games against those teams similar to us. I don't think there is any way in hell we go 7-2 at home though.
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Royals euphoria has almost completely wore off. :frown:
not for me. :)
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aTm will be a tournament team.
if they perform as kenpom expects, they'd be a bubble team, but not one that'd get in most years.
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I still think they have a fairly solid season. I'm not giving up.
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aTm will be a tournament team.
if they perform as kenpom expects, they'd be a bubble team, but not one that'd get in most years.
The kenpom % win vs his adjustments is interesting. They are projected to only lose 2 more games based just on the percentages, but kenpom has them losing 7 in his adjusted numbers. To be fair, 8 of those are between 52-55% winning.
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they need to make sure to get some of their wins against florida, vandy and kentucky. it looks like they also have chances for good wins against baylor and isu (lots of big 12 teams on their schedule, interestingly). but just one game each with florida and uk. six chances plus maybe a sec tourney game or two. amazingly, they have five of those six at home.
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south carolina is even more extreme. they still haven't played anyone, unless you count tulsa. and in the sec, they only play uk, uf and vandy once each. and all of those at home. amazing.
over the entire season, just three chances for good wins. kenpom projects them at 24-7 and with that schedule, they better not do much worse than that if they want to have any chance of getting in.
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south carolina is even more extreme. they still haven't played anyone, unless you count tulsa. and in the sec, they only play uk, uf and vandy once each. and all of those at home. amazing.
over the entire season, just three chances for good wins. kenpom projects them at 24-7 and with that schedule, they better not do much worse than that if they want to have any chance of getting in.
CBS College Basketball podcast had the same conversation, they're going 28-3 : excited:
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south carolina is even more extreme. they still haven't played anyone, unless you count tulsa. and in the sec, they only play uk, uf and vandy once each. and all of those at home. amazing.
over the entire season, just three chances for good wins. kenpom projects them at 24-7 and with that schedule, they better not do much worse than that if they want to have any chance of getting in.
USCjr. schedule is just the worst. The SEC scheduling is joke in general. Needs to be a fixed.