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Title: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: renocat on December 08, 2015, 03:03:37 PM
May be if she lowered their taxes they wouldn't leave; maybe even return.  She needs loot for all her promised giveaways.
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 08, 2015, 03:16:14 PM
Extremely stupid
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: ednksu on December 08, 2015, 04:18:22 PM
why lower their taxes when you can make them zero!  why not go even further and just give companies everyone else's tax dollars!!!  :gocho: :gocho: :gocho:
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 08, 2015, 04:22:47 PM
why lower their taxes when you can make them zero!  why not go even further and just give companies everyone else's tax dollars!!!  :gocho: :gocho: :gocho:

In all seriousness, America has the highest corporate tax rate in the developed world. Even after taking certain deductions into account, it is one of the highest rates. It would be a good idea to lower the rate to remain competitive.
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: EMAWican on December 08, 2015, 04:26:47 PM
Just look at Kansas' income tax plan experiment and how well that worked out. Now apply the findings to future tax plans. Not that hard.
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: SdK on December 08, 2015, 04:31:48 PM
Who is MG?
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 08, 2015, 05:03:43 PM
Just look at Kansas' income tax plan experiment and how well that worked out. Now apply the findings to future tax plans. Not that hard.

Their only mistake was assuming money would be enough to attract business to relocate to Kansas. The US in general doesn't have that problem.
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: Tobias on December 08, 2015, 06:19:24 PM

Who is MG?

mean granny (clinton)
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: SdK on December 08, 2015, 06:20:51 PM

Who is MG?

mean granny (clinton)
It's wild how renocat as taken over this blog.
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: sys on December 08, 2015, 06:54:21 PM
Their only mistake was assuming money would be enough to attract business to relocate to Kansas.

the only mistake was the entire plan?
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: slobber on December 08, 2015, 07:25:22 PM


Who is MG?

mean granny (clinton)
It's wild how renocat as taken over this blog.
I lol'd when somebody innocently referred to Mrs. Gooch as MG.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 08, 2015, 08:31:50 PM
Their only mistake was assuming money would be enough to attract business to relocate to Kansas.

the only mistake was the entire plan?

Touché
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 08, 2015, 09:04:31 PM
Just look at Kansas' income tax plan experiment and how well that worked out. Now apply the findings to future tax plans. Not that hard.

What most people fail to realize is that the plan worked exactly how it's supposed to (less money for poors and government).
Title: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 08, 2015, 10:14:14 PM
There's that bullshit straw man EDN take, has anyone seen EDN and Lib alive in the same room at the same time, if so, were two people there?
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: star seed 7 on December 08, 2015, 10:30:49 PM
Well that's pretty offensive :don'tcare:
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 09, 2015, 08:53:37 AM
Their only mistake was assuming money would be enough to attract business to relocate to Kansas.

the only mistake was the entire plan?

I pay less in taxes, even after the tax cuts were scaled back, so the plan got that part right. Kansas's primary hindrance to attracting new businesses remains unchanged: when the weather isn't dangerous and/or a pain in the ass, it's rough ridin' boring. No mountains, no beaches, no pro sports teams in the vicinity except for the very NE corner, etc. So you maximize the advantages you have: low taxes, low regulation, low cost of living, cheap land, etc.

For all the libtarded blather about education funding, medicaid expansion, and all the other things they'd love to tax and spend more of our money on, that's not going to drive business to our state. The few liberal-run businesses that might care about that crap aren't leaving the coasts/mountains anyway.
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: chuckjames on December 09, 2015, 12:02:24 PM
The reason other countries are able to have lower Corporate rates is because a lot of them have VAT taxes, which I think the US should transition too. Much more efficient of taxing. IMO
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: chuckjames on December 09, 2015, 12:11:43 PM
Their only mistake was assuming money would be enough to attract business to relocate to Kansas.

the only mistake was the entire plan?

I pay less in taxes, even after the tax cuts were scaled back, so the plan got that part right. Kansas's primary hindrance to attracting new businesses remains unchanged: when the weather isn't dangerous and/or a pain in the ass, it's rough ridin' boring. No mountains, no beaches, no pro sports teams in the vicinity except for the very NE corner, etc. So you maximize the advantages you have: low taxes, low regulation, low cost of living, cheap land, etc.

For all the libtarded blather about education funding, medicaid expansion, and all the other things they'd love to tax and spend more of our money on, that's not going to drive business to our state. The few liberal-run businesses that might care about that crap aren't leaving the coasts/mountains anyway.

Meh, Brownback and Laffer sold it as something that would make the Kansas economy the wonder of the country. It has failed at that miserably.
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 09, 2015, 01:17:33 PM
Their only mistake was assuming money would be enough to attract business to relocate to Kansas.

the only mistake was the entire plan?

I pay less in taxes, even after the tax cuts were scaled back, so the plan got that part right. Kansas's primary hindrance to attracting new businesses remains unchanged: when the weather isn't dangerous and/or a pain in the ass, it's rough ridin' boring. No mountains, no beaches, no pro sports teams in the vicinity except for the very NE corner, etc. So you maximize the advantages you have: low taxes, low regulation, low cost of living, cheap land, etc.

For all the libtarded blather about education funding, medicaid expansion, and all the other things they'd love to tax and spend more of our money on, that's not going to drive business to our state. The few liberal-run businesses that might care about that crap aren't leaving the coasts/mountains anyway.

Meh, Brownback and Laffer sold it as something that would make the Kansas economy the wonder of the country. It has failed at that miserably.

I agree they oversold it, but that's a messaging problem. My underlying points remain.
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 09, 2015, 01:19:38 PM
The reason other countries are able to have lower Corporate rates is because a lot of them have VAT taxes, which I think the US should transition too. Much more efficient of taxing. IMO

Unless we completely do away with income tax, the VAT is a terrible idea. Drives up the price of virtually everything exponentially because it is added at every level of production. We don't need more taxes. We could do with less government and less spending.
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: chuckjames on December 09, 2015, 01:31:08 PM
The reason other countries are able to have lower Corporate rates is because a lot of them have VAT taxes, which I think the US should transition too. Much more efficient of taxing. IMO

Unless we completely do away with income tax, the VAT is a terrible idea. Drives up the price of virtually everything exponentially because it is added at every level of production. We don't need more taxes. We could do with less government and less spending.

I mean I know that's your argument. I was trying to point out a VAT is more efficient and better than a corporate income tax.
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 09, 2015, 02:41:17 PM
The reason other countries are able to have lower Corporate rates is because a lot of them have VAT taxes, which I think the US should transition too. Much more efficient of taxing. IMO

For a manufacturer, a nightmare.  But, I guess no one here makes anything anymore.
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: Canary on December 09, 2015, 02:57:38 PM
Their only mistake was assuming money would be enough to attract business to relocate to Kansas.

the only mistake was the entire plan?

I pay less in taxes, even after the tax cuts were scaled back, so the plan got that part right. Kansas's primary hindrance to attracting new businesses remains unchanged: when the weather isn't dangerous and/or a pain in the ass, it's rough ridin' boring. No mountains, no beaches, no pro sports teams in the vicinity except for the very NE corner, etc. So you maximize the advantages you have: low taxes, low regulation, low cost of living, cheap land, etc.

For all the libtarded blather about education funding, medicaid expansion, and all the other things they'd love to tax and spend more of our money on, that's not going to drive business to our state. The few liberal-run businesses that might care about that crap aren't leaving the coasts/mountains anyway.

Meh, Brownback and Laffer sold it as something that would make the Kansas economy the wonder of the country. It has failed at that miserably.
Yet, on the news this morning I heard Brownback say what a success we have had with his plan. He is glad to see it all working out so well and is ready to see how the next step goes.
 And of course, he said they have increased aid to schools.  (I am very well-versed in school finance; what he said is absolutely not true.) 
Title: Re: MG wants to tax the hell out of any company leaving for overseas, stupid?
Post by: CNS on December 09, 2015, 03:12:29 PM
Brownback finally saw a monthly surplus of like 8 mil, rather than a shortfall of like 40 mil.  of course he is "right" now.