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Title: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: TheHamburglar on December 08, 2015, 11:07:38 AM
Big 12 just announced new rule requiring at least 1 P5 and no more than 1 FCS per year.  No start date, just all contacts signed going forward must follow.  Not forcing current signed agreements broken to meet the rule.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: AppleJack on December 08, 2015, 11:10:14 AM
I like it.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: kso_FAN on December 08, 2015, 11:16:04 AM
We are already set starting next year and going through 2021. These matchups make the OOC more enjoyable.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 08, 2015, 11:21:18 AM
Having KU in the conferences makes this a delightful little pill to swallow.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: TownieCat on December 08, 2015, 11:29:30 AM
This was definitely a shot a Baylor. Every other school in the league already does this most years. They haven't played P5 noncon game since 2009!
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: TownieCat on December 08, 2015, 11:34:36 AM
KU and Baylor are the only two that do not have a P5 noncon scheduled for next year. Baylor adds one in '17 (Duke), but KU does not.

Everyone else has at least one in '16 and '17.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: scottwildcat on December 08, 2015, 11:35:18 AM
Where we the last B12 program to play 2 FCS schools in a season?


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Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: Steffy08 on December 08, 2015, 11:49:12 AM
This was definitely a shot a Baylor. Every other school in the league already does this most years. They haven't played P5 noncon game since 2009!

Yep.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: Winters on December 08, 2015, 11:53:41 AM
This was definitely a shot a Baylor. Every other school in the league already does this most years. They haven't played P5 noncon game since 2009!
I could be wrong but wasn't that against like Wake Forest?  :lol:
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: DQ12 on December 08, 2015, 11:59:20 AM
This was definitely a shot a Baylor. Every other school in the league already does this most years. They haven't played P5 noncon game since 2009!
I could be wrong but wasn't that against like Wake Forest?  :lol:
USF?
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: kso_FAN on December 08, 2015, 12:15:51 PM
This was definitely a shot a Baylor. Every other school in the league already does this most years. They haven't played P5 noncon game since 2009!
I could be wrong but wasn't that against like Wake Forest?  :lol:
USF?

Wake and UConn.

To be fair, they did play an OOC home and home with TCU in 10 and 11 before they joined the league and became a P5 school.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: TheHamburglar on December 08, 2015, 12:24:04 PM
Where we the last B12 program to play 2 FCS schools in a season?


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Us in 2009?  :dunno:

That's probably a reaction to UNC this year.  There were rumors (no idea if true) that when the ATL game fell thru, we might have gotten stuck with 2 FCS next year.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: TheHamburglar on December 08, 2015, 01:12:37 PM
Add another item to the "reasons why the Big12 is terrible at PR" list:  Big12 ADs are telling reporters that Army and BYU count.  Office spokesman says they don't.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: Panjandrum on December 08, 2015, 01:21:44 PM
Add another item to the "reasons why the Big12 is terrible at PR" list:  Big12 ADs are telling reporters that Army and BYU count.  Office spokesman says they don't.

lol
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: Fedor on December 08, 2015, 02:16:36 PM
https://twitter.com/SpencerKietzman/status/674274714236293121

Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: joda on December 08, 2015, 02:18:40 PM
https://twitter.com/SpencerKietzman/status/674274714236293121

Add this to the list of ways Spencer Kietzman is a confirmed dumbass
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: meow meow on December 08, 2015, 02:39:10 PM
Spencer makes his dad look like that Einstein guy.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: scottwildcat on December 08, 2015, 02:40:35 PM
Does Spencer not realize we are covered on this rule through 2021?


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Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: catastrophe on December 08, 2015, 02:41:08 PM
This dum dum apparently thinks Stanford is DII or something.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: meow meow on December 08, 2015, 03:00:42 PM
would be a good incentive for Texas to pick up it's rivalry with A&M, KU could try and schedule Mizzou every year at Arrowhead, etc.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: CHONGS on December 08, 2015, 03:10:58 PM
I think it should be bumped up to 2 p5 teams.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: meow meow on December 08, 2015, 03:15:31 PM
maybe they are doing this now because they are planning on adding 2 crappy teams to the conference and want to make sure everyone is playing at least 9 games against power 5 teams at that time because we might go back to 4 OOC games.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: catastrophe on December 08, 2015, 03:21:16 PM

maybe they are doing this now because they are planning on adding 2 crappy teams to the conference and want to make sure everyone is playing at least 9 games against power 5 teams at that time because we might go back to 4 OOC games.

I think they're doing it because almost all fans want it as well as tv networks. Also, with this rule the Big 12 can brag that its teams' schedules are harder/more interesting than any other conference due to the 9 conference games and P5 opponent requirement. Instant (though modest right now) bump in conference prestige.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: Skipper44 on December 08, 2015, 03:21:54 PM
would be a good incentive for Texas to pick up it's rivalry with A&M, KU could try and schedule Mizzou every year at Arrowhead, etc.
both sec schools would do back flips to get those games back
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: meow meow on December 08, 2015, 03:40:03 PM
would be a good incentive for Texas to pick up it's rivalry with A&M, KU could try and schedule Mizzou every year at Arrowhead, etc.
both sec schools would do back flips to get those games back

K-State should start an annual series with Mizzou starting in 2022 or whenever. 
Title: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: scottwildcat on December 08, 2015, 03:42:37 PM
would be a good incentive for Texas to pick up it's rivalry with A&M, KU could try and schedule Mizzou every year at Arrowhead, etc.

No it wouldn't, UT is taken care of with this rule through 2024, and in 2027.


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Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: ChiComCat on December 08, 2015, 03:44:21 PM
I think it should be bumped up to 2 p5 teams.

Maybe but I would settle for dropping FCS schools next
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: meow meow on December 08, 2015, 03:51:37 PM
would be a good incentive for Texas to pick up it's rivalry with A&M, KU could try and schedule Mizzou every year at Arrowhead, etc.

No it wouldn't, UT is taken care of with this rule through 2024, and in 2027.


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ok, then starting in 2025 scottwildcat <---lol
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: michigancat on December 08, 2015, 03:51:47 PM
I think it should be bumped up to 2 p5 teams.

Maybe but I would settle for dropping FCS schools next
Both good ideas
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: meow meow on December 08, 2015, 03:54:53 PM
I don't see anything wrong with playing an FCS school.  A lot of those games aren't the blowouts they once were, and if they are, it gives the bigger school a chance to get playing time for a lot of players.  And the FCS school gets a good payday that they wouldn't otherwise get, and I'm sure they enjoy getting to face one of the bigger schools.  If we're gonna be playing 10 P5 games, 1 FCS game is fine by me.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2015, 04:16:43 PM
Let teams schedule FCS schools that want to schedule FCS schools. I really don't like conferences dictating what schools do with their non conference schedules. What's good for Ohio State isn't good for Purdue. I also don't like that the FCS schools are not getting that revenue. What do you do when you're faced with a problem like North Carolina had when they got bought out, thought they could find a FBS opponent, then couldn't?
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: Panjandrum on December 08, 2015, 04:32:14 PM
Let teams schedule FCS schools that want to schedule FCS schools. I really don't like conferences dictating what schools do with their non conference schedules. What's good for Ohio State isn't good for Purdue. I also don't like that the FCS schools are not getting that revenue. What do you do when you're faced with a problem like North Carolina had when they got bought out, thought they could find a FBS opponent, then couldn't?

FCS schools give flexibility to the schedule to find a quick fix if a series falls through or someone cancels.  Also, if we start doing a bunch of home/home P5 schedules, and pretty much every G5 school dictates some sort of 2:1 deal (i.e. UTSA), seven home games is hard to come by.  You can schedule as best you can, but the only way you can almost guarantee seven home games per year in this environment is to schedule FCS.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: michigancat on December 08, 2015, 04:38:41 PM
I think the NCAA should manage all OOC scheduling.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: meow meow on December 08, 2015, 04:39:01 PM
lol
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2015, 04:41:11 PM
I think the NCAA should manage all OOC scheduling.

Even though they don't run FBS college football?
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: ChiComCat on December 08, 2015, 04:42:51 PM
Let teams schedule FCS schools that want to schedule FCS schools. I really don't like conferences dictating what schools do with their non conference schedules. What's good for Ohio State isn't good for Purdue. I also don't like that the FCS schools are not getting that revenue. What do you do when you're faced with a problem like North Carolina had when they got bought out, thought they could find a FBS opponent, then couldn't?

I think if you have more FBS opponents looking for other FBS opponents, this problem will be much less likely.  I agree that Kansas shouldn't have the same scheduling philosophy as Oklahoma but the worst of the Sun Belt or whatever is plenty bad enough for them to play.

Personally, I would like for FCS teams to scrimmage in April against FBS teams and they can get their pay day that way.  The Spring Games get much better as there is actually a little bit of relevancy, attendance would probably improve but the game would not count on anyone's record.
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2015, 04:45:18 PM
Let teams schedule FCS schools that want to schedule FCS schools. I really don't like conferences dictating what schools do with their non conference schedules. What's good for Ohio State isn't good for Purdue. I also don't like that the FCS schools are not getting that revenue. What do you do when you're faced with a problem like North Carolina had when they got bought out, thought they could find a FBS opponent, then couldn't?

I think if you have more FBS opponents looking for other FBS opponents, this problem will be much less likely.  I agree that Kansas shouldn't have the same scheduling philosophy as Oklahoma but the worst of the Sun Belt or whatever is plenty bad enough for them to play.

Personally, I would like for FCS teams to scrimmage in April against FBS teams and they can get their pay day that way.  The Spring Games get much better as there is actually a little bit of relevancy, attendance would probably improve but the game would not count on anyone's record.

That's a great idea ColoCat :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: michigancat on December 08, 2015, 04:51:56 PM
I think the NCAA should manage all OOC scheduling.

Even though they don't run FBS college football?
Well then whoever is in charge of the CFP or fbs football or whomever
Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: michigancat on December 08, 2015, 04:54:31 PM


Personally, I would like for FCS teams to scrimmage in April against FBS teams and they can get their pay day that way.  The Spring Games get much better as there is actually a little bit of relevancy, attendance would probably improve but the game would not count on anyone's record.
Another great idea.

Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 08, 2015, 10:16:54 PM
The pretty much ensures ku will never make a bowl game again.

Title: Re: New Big12 schedule rule
Post by: catastrophe on December 09, 2015, 12:03:22 AM
The pretty much ensures ku will never make a bowl game again.

Could help them in the long run.  This will probably catch on in the other P5 conferences, and if KU is smart they'll start a bidding war among teams for the privilege to play the easiest P5 opponent of all.  KU just needs to pocket that money over 5-10 years and then they can put a down payment on reasonable facilities and maybe even start paying for a decent coach.