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Title: Ice
Post by: AppleJack on December 07, 2015, 10:18:48 AM
Please also add how your day is going. Thank you.
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 07, 2015, 10:20:22 AM
Maybe I'm just old school, but I like ice cubes.
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 07, 2015, 10:20:47 AM
And I'm having a nice Monday AJ, thanks for asking. How's your day?
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Post by: Dub on December 07, 2015, 10:24:02 AM
Taco Via ice.
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Post by: Emo EMAW on December 07, 2015, 10:24:27 AM
I like cubes in my Caucasians, but I like crushed in my root beer, ya dig?

Also, I'm very frustrated this morning, trying to find the "coaches that have been outschemed by LCHBS" thread to make sure Beaty got put in it but I cannot find it.
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: slobber on December 07, 2015, 10:28:46 AM
Have an ice day AJ!


Gonna win 'em all!
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on December 07, 2015, 10:40:21 AM
When I was a kid my dad worked at the electric department, and he would take us there on weekends and we would get some ice. They had an ice maker that made really great ice.
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: TownieCat on December 07, 2015, 10:46:36 AM
I received giant ice ball makers for cocktails as a groomsman gift once. Very handy. Keeps your drink cold for a long time without watering down your beverage.

My day has been good, bordering on great so far. Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: CNS on December 07, 2015, 10:56:57 AM
Definitely a different answer for different application thing.  Also, doing great today!
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Post by: star seed 7 on December 07, 2015, 11:09:46 AM
"chips"

Also my day is pretty dece so far
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 07, 2015, 11:15:31 AM
I received giant ice ball makers for cocktails as a groomsman gift once. Very handy. Keeps your drink cold for a long time without watering down your beverage.

My day has been good, bordering on great so far. Thanks for asking.

How is this achieved?  The amount of cumulative cooling would be proportional to how much ice was melted, regardless of the shape.
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on December 07, 2015, 11:17:07 AM
I received giant ice ball makers for cocktails as a groomsman gift once. Very handy. Keeps your drink cold for a long time without watering down your beverage.

My day has been good, bordering on great so far. Thanks for asking.

How is this achieved?  The amount of cumulative cooling would be proportional to how much ice was melted, regardless of the shape.

A larger piece of ice cools (and melts) more slowly than several small pieces because the surface area to volume ratio is smaller for the big piece of ice.
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 07, 2015, 11:21:35 AM
I received giant ice ball makers for cocktails as a groomsman gift once. Very handy. Keeps your drink cold for a long time without watering down your beverage.

My day has been good, bordering on great so far. Thanks for asking.

How is this achieved?  The amount of cumulative cooling would be proportional to how much ice was melted, regardless of the shape.

A larger piece of ice cools (and melts) more slowly than several small pieces because the surface area to volume ratio is smaller for the big piece of ice.

If it's melting slower, then it is also cooling less.  Do people want to drink warmer drinks for longer?  Seems like a backwards way of doing it. 
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: Canary on December 07, 2015, 11:34:06 AM
I prefer crushed ice in my sodas, but otherwise have no preference.
I am having a great day; Mondays are always good reminders of how great weekends are.
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: TownieCat on December 07, 2015, 12:33:20 PM
I received giant ice ball makers for cocktails as a groomsman gift once. Very handy. Keeps your drink cold for a long time without watering down your beverage.

My day has been good, bordering on great so far. Thanks for asking.

How is this achieved?  The amount of cumulative cooling would be proportional to how much ice was melted, regardless of the shape.

A larger piece of ice cools (and melts) more slowly than several small pieces because the surface area to volume ratio is smaller for the big piece of ice.

If it's melting slower, then it is also cooling less.  Do people want to drink warmer drinks for longer?  Seems like a backwards way of doing it.
I don't know the science behind it but I can tell you from experience that the 2.5" ice spheres I use melt slower than regular ice cubes.
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 07, 2015, 01:25:44 PM
I received giant ice ball makers for cocktails as a groomsman gift once. Very handy. Keeps your drink cold for a long time without watering down your beverage.

My day has been good, bordering on great so far. Thanks for asking.

How is this achieved?  The amount of cumulative cooling would be proportional to how much ice was melted, regardless of the shape.

A larger piece of ice cools (and melts) more slowly than several small pieces because the surface area to volume ratio is smaller for the big piece of ice.

If it's melting slower, then it is also cooling less.  Do people want to drink warmer drinks for longer?  Seems like a backwards way of doing it.

arent you an engineer of some sort? figure it the eff out.
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: sys on December 07, 2015, 01:50:50 PM
ice at 0 c would cool a beverage in direct proportion to volume of melt, but ice is kept colder than 0 c, so it doesn't.
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Post by: hemmy on December 07, 2015, 01:58:52 PM
I don't care, I prefer only a small amount of ice
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Post by: Emo EMAW on December 07, 2015, 03:09:24 PM
ice at 0 c would cool a beverage in direct proportion to volume of melt, but ice is kept colder than 0 c, so it doesn't.

The surface of the ice would still be at 32 deg F, and the only cooling that could be rendered to the fluid is equal to the mass of the ice melted times it's latent heat of melting.  So kg*(kJ/kg) = kJ.  It doesn't matter the ice's geometry or the ice's initial temperature.  If you want cooling faster, increase the surface area.  If you want cooling to be slower, decrease the surface area.  And if you want the cumulative cooling amount to be increased, keep the ice as cold as possible. 
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: TownieCat on December 07, 2015, 03:20:11 PM
I bet AJ did not anticipate this thread turning into a botched lesson on thermodynamics. Then again maybe he did :dunno:
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: sys on December 07, 2015, 03:36:42 PM
with subzero ice, you have heat transfer from the interior of the ice to the liquid.  that replaces heat transfer by melting.  so less melting for same transfer of heat with lower surface to volume ratio.
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: Tobias on December 07, 2015, 04:02:40 PM
this is all a setup to talk about Yeti anyways
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: star seed 7 on December 07, 2015, 06:21:06 PM
real world models don't agree with emo  :dunno:
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Post by: star seed 7 on December 07, 2015, 06:22:21 PM
real world models don't agree with emo  :dunno:

data point "adjustments"?   :nono:
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: Kat Kid on December 07, 2015, 09:30:50 PM
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Title: Re: Ice
Post by: slobber on December 08, 2015, 07:59:33 AM
:Carl:


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Ice
Post by: The Big Train on January 31, 2016, 10:30:37 AM
I learned an awful lot about people who don't understand physics laws ITT