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Title: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: star seed 7 on November 20, 2015, 10:14:30 PM
With temps in the 20s coming you don't want to crack a faucet.
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: OK_Cat on November 20, 2015, 10:20:06 PM
I did that earlier this evening. Thanks for looking out, lib7
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: steaksdime on November 20, 2015, 11:35:05 PM
Thanks for the reminder dude.
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: bones129 on November 21, 2015, 01:02:54 AM
Thanks, 7. Did that a couple of days ago, but always good to know that the gE family has our backs in case we forget this kind of thing.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: steve dave on November 21, 2015, 08:29:30 AM
I'm not doing this
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: Pendergast on November 21, 2015, 09:28:51 AM
Doesn't matter unless you turn off your heat.  But who the eff would do that?
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: The Big Train on November 21, 2015, 07:37:56 PM
KATDADDY NO!
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: star seed 7 on November 21, 2015, 07:53:01 PM
Doesn't matter unless you turn off your heat.  But who the eff would do that?

Low faucet iq
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: Kat Kid on November 21, 2015, 07:57:54 PM
Faucet already broke due to this from last year so I will carry on
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: Cire on November 21, 2015, 07:58:29 PM
Yeah, it's not 1957 guys
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 22, 2015, 07:17:03 PM
Doesn't matter unless you turn off your heat.  But who the eff would do that?

Very poor assumption.
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: steve dave on November 23, 2015, 09:16:13 AM
I ended up actually unhooking it. didn't drain it though. also it was already unhooked but I went over to it to unhook it.
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 23, 2015, 09:26:22 AM
for those unsure of the issue here, water trapped inside the spigot and hose freezes and splits the spigot.  This can lead to flooding in the house once it thaws.     Modern frost-proof hose bibbs prevent this in theory, but they can also fail, though rare.   I know someone who had a $10k+ insurance claim because of this....so it's just a good idea.
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: steve dave on November 23, 2015, 09:27:05 AM
and your hose may already be unhooked anyway
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: mocat on November 23, 2015, 09:28:22 AM
why would your house flood if the faucet was leaking water outside the house?
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: The Big Train on November 23, 2015, 09:30:41 AM
https://youtu.be/hqrrycRPy7o
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: kso_FAN on November 23, 2015, 09:34:29 AM
why would your house flood if the faucet was leaking water outside the house?

Because it does this:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fterrylove.com%2Fimages%2Fhosebib_split.jpg&hash=dc9098fd76861e475c901a57fe8efbca5e18b110)
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: mocat on November 23, 2015, 09:36:48 AM
why would the pipe burst inside of your heated home?
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 23, 2015, 09:37:19 AM
why would your house flood if the faucet was leaking water outside the house?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.single-family-home-remodeling.com%2Fimages%2Fcopper-soldered-faucet-large.jpg&hash=b6e0d6668782474064cefdf753ec179ddefdda4f)

The pipe right behind the faucet breaks. If your home is modern at all, there will be a second valve further back on the pipe, so it will only leak when you turn the water on.

Like this:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhostedmedia.reimanpub.com%2FTFH%2FStep-By-Step%2FFH05APR_FAUCET_01.JPG&hash=de0bca2275e7e57a4f1d76b014598243cc0e6970)

You can still break a freeze-proof faucet in front of the valve if you leave a hose connected to it, so it's just good practice to disconnect it.
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: kso_FAN on November 23, 2015, 09:39:31 AM
why would the pipe burst inside of your heated home?

If its cold enough outside, the water can freeze back into the pipe and expand leading to this. Plus the basement temp in some areas of your basement generally isn't that warm. Granted, this type of stuff happens when its 0 or below outside, not in the 20s or 30s like right now.
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: meow meow on November 23, 2015, 09:43:22 AM
they make insulated covers you can attach on the outside of your house on the faucet, to help prevent this
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: star seed 7 on November 23, 2015, 09:45:06 AM
These copy paste threads get heated sometimes
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: AbeFroman on November 23, 2015, 10:23:57 AM
I forgot to do this and now need a plumber. Any recommendations? Preferably near Pratt, KS

thanks!
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: sys on November 23, 2015, 12:08:11 PM
i just went out and filled my hose.  want to keep it nice and lubricated through the winter.
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: Fldermaus on November 23, 2015, 12:51:05 PM
why would your house flood if the faucet was leaking water outside the house?

The pipe right behind the faucet breaks. If your home is modern at all, there will be a second valve further back on the pipe, so it will only leak when you turn the water on.

You can still break a freeze-proof faucet in front of the valve if you leave a hose connected to it, so it's just good practice to disconnect it.

Yup, I can vouch for this. Depending on the design of the house & location of the faucet, it doesn't have to get all that cold to happen.
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: Katpappy on November 23, 2015, 01:41:56 PM
KATDADDY NO!
Nothing to get worked up about ITT.  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: Katpappy on November 23, 2015, 01:46:32 PM
why would your house flood if the faucet was leaking water outside the house?
Believe me, it can happen.  I'm in the process of a >$20,000. insurance claim due to this happening.  Also, great advice 7.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: puniraptor on November 23, 2015, 10:48:15 PM
I haven't done any engineering on it, but I have a feeling those insulated covers are bullshit
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: bones129 on November 24, 2015, 01:37:32 AM
Better safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Don't forget to unhook and drain your garden hoses
Post by: star seed 7 on November 24, 2015, 07:28:52 AM
I haven't done any engineering on it, but I have a feeling those insulated covers are bullshit

Unless you have a source of heat, then probably