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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: 420seriouscat69 on November 10, 2015, 01:26:35 PM
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recreational supernaturalist
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trim 3:16
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I have no judgement either way. I just find it interesting. Growing up, it's all I knew. Now I feel like, if you're a liberal, you hate religion and vise versa. I'm just curious if there's any super liberals out there, that are religious and if there's any extreme nut conservatives out there, that don't believe in a higher power.
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Does that make moderates agnostic?
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It seems weird to me that you have to go through so much bureaucracy to quit a church.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/11/10/this-saturday-there-will-be-a-mass-resignation-from-mormonism-in-salt-lake-city/
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There's some super nutty religions out there. Don't tell Ms. Wacky's family this, but I think Catholics and Mormons are insane! I've totally been judged at Catholic weddings this year, for not doing their whole routine, throughout the show.
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I have no judgement either way. I just find it interesting. Growing up, it's all I knew. Now I feel like, if you're a liberal, you hate religion and vise versa. I'm just curious if there's any super liberals out there, that are religious and if there's any extreme nut conservatives out there, that don't believe in a higher power.
of course there are
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There's some super nutty religions out there. Don't tell Ms. Wacky's family this, but I think Catholics and Mormons are insane! I've totally been judged at Catholic weddings this year, for not doing their whole routine, throughout the show.
Pretty broad brush yer paintin with there pardner.
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There's some super nutty religions out there. Don't tell Ms. Wacky's family this, but I think Catholics and Mormons are insane! I've totally been judged at Catholic weddings this year, for not doing their whole routine, throughout the show.
Pretty broad brush yer paintin with there pardner.
Not really, that's like the 80ish-90ish crowd of the family, who runs Catholic Charities in town. One second they love me, the next second they don't see me playing along. They have no memory. It's just that generation.
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There's some super nutty religions out there. Don't tell Ms. Wacky's family this, but I think Catholics and Mormons are insane! I've totally been judged at Catholic weddings this year, for not doing their whole routine, throughout the show.
Pretty broad brush yer paintin with there pardner.
Not really, that's like the 80ish-90ish crowd of the family, who runs Catholic Charities in town. One second they love me, the next second they don't see me playing along. They have no memory. It's just that generation.
I'm saying that not all Catholics or Mormons are insane. I married into a Catholic family, and from my perspective they seem like the "fun" religious people. I didn't take communion when we got married and I never felt judged or slighted in the least. Also grew up with a lot of great, super nice, Mormon people. People that are actually so nice it kind of pisses you off how nice they are. Not insane in the least. Unless being happy and nice is crazy.
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I'm just giving my perception. I've met nice Catholics and Mormons as well. Ms. wacky's family is a blast, I just don't understand some aspects of their religion. Not being able to drink certain things in the mormon culture sounds like no fun, but I like to party, so what do I know? :dunno: That's why I ask? I'm curious about things.
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"there are no christian liberals / liberals hate christians" is a pretty LOL myth that Rush types love to purport
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I have no judgement either way. I just find it interesting. Growing up, it's all I knew. Now I feel like, if you're a liberal, you hate religion and vise versa. I'm just curious if there's any super liberals out there, that are religious and if there's any extreme nut conservatives out there, that don't believe in a higher power.
Very few people hate religion, except those who are very religious hating on other religions.
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Of course I believe in the existence of religion :D
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I have no judgement either way. I just find it interesting. Growing up, it's all I knew. Now I feel like, if you're a liberal, you hate religion and vise versa. I'm just curious if there's any super liberals out there, that are religious and if there's any extreme nut conservatives out there, that don't believe in a higher power.
Very few people hate religion, except those who are very religious hating on other religions.
This is very true.
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i think i've posted this before, but if i were to join a religion, i'd choose lds. it's a great organization.
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I WORSHIP AT THE ALTAR OF LIBRALISM
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"there are no christian liberals / liberals hate christians" is a pretty LOL myth that Rush types love to purport
On the other side, so is the "Jesus would be a democrat" tome.
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i think i've posted this before, but if i were to join a religion, i'd choose lds. it's a great organization.
yes. remember the BYU message boarders we had for a short time? wow.
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Yes. The best form. Any one who has a set of good moral beliefs is better than heathen humanists.
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i think i've posted this before, but if i were to join a religion, i'd choose lds. it's a great organization.
yes. remember the BYU message boarders we had for a short time? wow.
no stimulants tho
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I worked with a bunch of mormons in arizona. They partied HARD.
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I don't know if there is or is not a god. To claim that, would be to make the claim that I am omniscient, a god, myself. I'm not going to delve into my viewpoint further at this time.
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i think i've posted this before, but if i were to join a religion, i'd choose lds. it's a great organization.
It really is a pretty amazing organization. The community they form is great. They don't let you drink and they audit your finances though*. (*if you want to be in heaven with your family)
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I don't know if there is or is a god. To claim that, would be to make the claim that I am omniscient, a god, myself. I'm not going to delve into my viewpoint further at this time.
all this but also add that i don't care either way
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i think i've posted this before, but if i were to join a religion, i'd choose lds. it's a great organization.
Oh man. Why? I guess if you want to be part of the community/social side that's okay, but to be a card carrying temple worthy member you have to do some ridiculous stuff.
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i think i've posted this before, but if i were to join a religion, i'd choose lds. it's a great organization.
Oh man. Why? I guess if you want to be part of the community/social side that's okay, but to be a card carrying temple worthy member you have to do some ridiculous stuff.
They build amazingly supportive communities unlike any other religion that I know of. If a Mormon moves to a new community, they're met with an incredible social structure - am army of families will help them move in, cook them meals, invite them over for diet cokes, etc. Plus the missionary thing is pretty interesting and gives their young people unique, valuable experiences. Not sure if that's what sys was referring to, but it's the good parts of the LDS organization that I think of. The bad things are the tithing and the misogyny and the history of racism that seem harsher than most other religions. Other than that, their requirements aren't significantly more harsh/strange than other religions.
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What is this financial audit thing you guys are talking about?
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I have a friend who's unitarian, it seems like the opposite of lds.
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What is this financial audit thing you guys are talking about?
https://tech.lds.org/wiki/index.php/Tithing_settlement
Basically, you need to be a "full tither" to get a temple recommend.
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i think i've posted this before, but if i were to join a religion, i'd choose lds. it's a great organization.
Oh man. Why? I guess if you want to be part of the community/social side that's okay, but to be a card carrying temple worthy member you have to do some ridiculous stuff.
They build amazingly supportive communities unlike any other religion that I know of. If a Mormon moves to a new community, they're met with an incredible social structure - am army of families will help them move in, cook them meals, invite them over for diet cokes, etc. Plus the missionary thing is pretty interesting and gives their young people unique, valuable experiences. Not sure if that's what sys was referring to, but it's the good parts of the LDS organization that I think of. The bad things are the tithing and the misogyny and the history of racism that seem harsher than most other religions. Other than that, their requirements aren't significantly more harsh/strange than other religions.
exactly, most practical benefits and also they mostly take their beliefs seriously, which i think you'd want if you wanted to be religious. and they're super nice.
the only downside (for me) would be that they're pretty modern. i really like history and tradition and ritual and all of that stuff. so a more ancient lineage would have that appeal.
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i think i've posted this before, but if i were to join a religion, i'd choose lds. it's a great organization.
Oh man. Why? I guess if you want to be part of the community/social side that's okay, but to be a card carrying temple worthy member you have to do some ridiculous stuff.
They build amazingly supportive communities unlike any other religion that I know of. If a Mormon moves to a new community, they're met with an incredible social structure - am army of families will help them move in, cook them meals, invite them over for diet cokes, etc. Plus the missionary thing is pretty interesting and gives their young people unique, valuable experiences. Not sure if that's what sys was referring to, but it's the good parts of the LDS organization that I think of. The bad things are the tithing and the misogyny and the history of racism that seem harsher than most other religions. Other than that, their requirements aren't significantly more harsh/strange than other religions.
exactly, most practical benefits and also they mostly take their beliefs seriously, which i think you'd want if you wanted to be religious. and they're super nice.
the only downside (for me) would be that they're pretty modern. i really like history and tradition and ritual and all of that stuff. so a more ancient lineage would have that appeal.
Yeah, I think their tight community helps them have such strong believers. With a strong support system already in place, they rarely interact socially with non-Mormons, which kind of creates a "we're right" mentality that's stronger than other religions. It also gives great peer pressure (or support, depending on your perspective) to avoid certain vices and live piously.
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Mom was Baptist, so I converted to Romam Catholicism in high school to escape the crazy.
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I grew up in a Catholic community. We are right.
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I worked with a bunch of mormons in arizona. They partied HARD.
Jello shots!!
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i think i've posted this before, but if i were to join a religion, i'd choose lds. it's a great organization.
Oh man. Why? I guess if you want to be part of the community/social side that's okay, but to be a card carrying temple worthy member you have to do some ridiculous stuff.
They build amazingly supportive communities unlike any other religion that I know of. If a Mormon moves to a new community, they're met with an incredible social structure - am army of families will help them move in, cook them meals, invite them over for diet cokes, etc. Plus the missionary thing is pretty interesting and gives their young people unique, valuable experiences. Not sure if that's what sys was referring to, but it's the good parts of the LDS organization that I think of. The bad things are the tithing and the misogyny and the history of racism that seem harsher than most other religions. Other than that, their requirements aren't significantly more harsh/strange than other religions.
A lot of other religions have no requirements at all, so requiring things like actually going on missions and auditing tithes would be a pretty big step for most people.
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I believe that some people believe in religion
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i think i've posted this before, but if i were to join a religion, i'd choose lds. it's a great organization.
Oh man. Why? I guess if you want to be part of the community/social side that's okay, but to be a card carrying temple worthy member you have to do some ridiculous stuff.
They build amazingly supportive communities unlike any other religion that I know of. If a Mormon moves to a new community, they're met with an incredible social structure - am army of families will help them move in, cook them meals, invite them over for diet cokes, etc. Plus the missionary thing is pretty interesting and gives their young people unique, valuable experiences. Not sure if that's what sys was referring to, but it's the good parts of the LDS organization that I think of. The bad things are the tithing and the misogyny and the history of racism that seem harsher than most other religions. Other than that, their requirements aren't significantly more harsh/strange than other religions.
exactly, most practical benefits and also they mostly take their beliefs seriously, which i think you'd want if you wanted to be religious. and they're super nice.
the only downside (for me) would be that they're pretty modern. i really like history and tradition and ritual and all of that stuff. so a more ancient lineage would have that appeal.
Yeah, I think their tight community helps them have such strong believers. With a strong support system already in place, they rarely interact socially with non-Mormons, which kind of creates a "we're right" mentality that's stronger than other religions. It also gives great peer pressure (or support, depending on your perspective) to avoid certain vices and live piously.
I would throw Mennonites in this same league, except without all the racism.
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Sounds pretty cult like to me
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the mennonites in mexico are a little racist maybe. or maybe it's just the normal response of an isolated minority, it's kinda hard to tell.
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the mennonites in mexico are a little racist maybe. or maybe it's just the normal response of an isolated minority, it's kinda hard to tell.
Meade KS has Mennonites that were involved with heavy drug trafficking/ money laundering with Mexico Mennonites and some of them just got federally charged for it. Very big news for Meade as you can imagine.
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that's pretty fantastic, steve dave. i'd love to hear that either money or drugs were hidden inside cheeses, but that's probably too much to ask.
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the mennonites in mexico are a little racist maybe. or maybe it's just the normal response of an isolated minority, it's kinda hard to tell.
Meade KS has Mennonites that were involved with heavy drug trafficking/ money laundering with Mexico Mennonites and some of them just got federally charged for it. Very big news for Meade as you can imagine.
They call it Ol' Mexico
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Mennonite Mafia.
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the mennonites in mexico are a little racist maybe. or maybe it's just the normal response of an isolated minority, it's kinda hard to tell.
Meade KS has Mennonites that were involved with heavy drug trafficking/ money laundering with Mexico Mennonites and some of them just got federally charged for it. Very big news for Meade as you can imagine.
They call it Ol' Mexico
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2015/02/12/mexican-cartel-allegedly-laundering-drug-proceeds-through-small-town-kansas/
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LDS also basically votes on their beliefs like a democracy which is cool. it is by far the most adaptive of religions
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LDS also basically votes on their beliefs like a democracy which is cool. it is by far the most adaptive of religions
No they don't. They believe their church president and 12 apostles are prophets that receive direct revelation from god. Those guys make up the beliefs. The members only get to vote on whether they sustain those guys. It is adaptive though because the head dudes can change doctrine whenever they want (or whenever pressured to do so... Polygamy & racist stuff) and claim that the change came from god.
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LDS also basically votes on their beliefs like a democracy which is cool. it is by far the most adaptive of religions
No they don't. They believe their church president and 12 apostles are prophets that receive direct revelation from god. Those guys make up the beliefs. The members only get to vote on whether they sustain those guys. It is adaptive though because the head dudes can change doctrine whenever they want (or whenever pressured to do so... Polygamy & racist stuff) and claim that the change came from god.
I think they are the only religion that changes doctrine over time.
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Now I feel like, if you're a liberal, you hate religion and vise versa.
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