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ITT, discus our chances of playing in a bowl game this year. Personally? I think we have 4 winnable games. TexTech is the really dangerous game, the rest we can win. Let's go bowling.
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ITT, discus our chances of playing in a bowl game this year. Personally? I think we have 4 winnable games. TexTech is the really dangerous game, the rest we can win. Let's go bowling.
Yeah, I like to think we can win out. It's not going to happen though.
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Every so often we need a manageable bowl game so our bowl record isn't so bad. This is that year!
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I feel fairly positive that this can happen.
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As bad as it seems, we have competed with everyone but OU. That should mean we can beat the teams that are sitting with us at the bottom of the league standings. Four of our losses are to pretty good teams.
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No we are not beating Tech.
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Tech is garbage. WVU is a worse matchup for us. We will snyderball the crap out of Tech.
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70% chance
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BELIEVE
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we're winning out, you loons.
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Thought I saw a couple weeks ago (maybe here!) that it was expected there'd need to be 5-7 teams to fill out all the bowl slots this year.
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I don't think it looks too good, but I am quite down on this team. :frown:
Likely will all come down to Dec 5th.
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we're winning out, you loons.
Agreed!
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I hate the position that our team is in now. ISU and KU used to be guaranteed and we only played them because we had to, no matter how much it hurt the image of our football team. This year, we MUST play them to stay somewhat relevant and go bowling. I know a W is a W, but look at the name-quality of our wins. No real giants in there at all.
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I hate the position that our team is in now. ISU and KU used to be guaranteed and we only played them because we had to, no matter how much it hurt the image of our football team. This year, we MUST play them to stay somewhat relevant and go bowling. I know a W is a W, but look at the name-quality of our wins. No real giants in there at all.
Who gives a eff. Mizzou has won the SEC East the past two seasons and haven't beat a single soul. Will take!
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No way. We may beat isu and ku, but i think we lose to wvu and tech. Our secondary is garbage.
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No way. We may beat isu and ku, but i think we lose to wvu and tech. Our secondary is garbage.
I am so tired of yelling at my tv with them..........our corners don't even know where the 1st down markers are ...... :dubious:
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I hate the position that our team is in now. ISU and KU used to be guaranteed and we only played them because we had to, no matter how much it hurt the image of our football team. This year, we MUST play them to stay somewhat relevant and go bowling. I know a W is a W, but look at the name-quality of our wins. No real giants in there at all.
WTF is this?
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I think he is making the point that even if we make a bowl game this we won't have any marquee win on our resume. Our best win is probably going to end up being in triple overtime at home against the runner up in C-USA.
I think.
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Thanks for the interpretation, Chingon
I hate the position that our team is in now. ISU and KU used to be guaranteed and we only played them because we had to, no matter how much it hurt the image of our football team. This year, we MUST play them to stay somewhat relevant and go bowling. I know a W is a W, but look at the name-quality of our wins. No real giants in there at all.
Who in the hell cares? Quality of wins matters to about six teams, hint we aren't one of them, really we've never been one of them.
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If we continue to try and run the football, we should do alright. Tech, KU, and ISU suck badly against the run. Tech and WVU can't sack anyone. So, there should be limited pressure on Hubener that we've seen with the better teams.
Tech will be difficult. But I think we can Snyderball them (as has been mentioned). WVU is a better team, but they seem to really regress on the road, and if we're looking at bowl eligibility on Senior Day, and we've picked up a couple of wins in a row, I think BSFS will be a tough place to play.
I think we can win out, but I think it's better than 50% that we go 3-1.
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If we continue to try and run the football, we should do alright. Tech, KU, and ISU suck badly against the run. Tech and WVU can't sack anyone. So, there should be limited pressure on Hubener that we've seen with the better teams.
Tech will be difficult. But I think we can Snyderball them (as has been mentioned). WVU is a better team, but they seem to really regress on the road, and if we're looking at bowl eligibility on Senior Day, and we've picked up a couple of wins in a row, I think BSFS will be a tough place to play.
I think we can win out, but I think it's better than 50% that we go 3-1.
You forget that we also have to stop the other team from scoring. The TCU and OSU game show that we can score points, but our defense will always give up more.
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If we continue to try and run the football, we should do alright. Tech, KU, and ISU suck badly against the run. Tech and WVU can't sack anyone. So, there should be limited pressure on Hubener that we've seen with the better teams.
Tech will be difficult. But I think we can Snyderball them (as has been mentioned). WVU is a better team, but they seem to really regress on the road, and if we're looking at bowl eligibility on Senior Day, and we've picked up a couple of wins in a row, I think BSFS will be a tough place to play.
I think we can win out, but I think it's better than 50% that we go 3-1.
You forget that we also have to stop the other team from scoring. The TCU and OSU game show that we can score points, but our defense will always give up more.
This is an awfully pessimistic take after our defense (without our two best players) just held Baylor to half its scoring average.
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If we continue to try and run the football, we should do alright. Tech, KU, and ISU suck badly against the run. Tech and WVU can't sack anyone. So, there should be limited pressure on Hubener that we've seen with the better teams.
Tech will be difficult. But I think we can Snyderball them (as has been mentioned). WVU is a better team, but they seem to really regress on the road, and if we're looking at bowl eligibility on Senior Day, and we've picked up a couple of wins in a row, I think BSFS will be a tough place to play.
I think we can win out, but I think it's better than 50% that we go 3-1.
You forget that we also have to stop the other team from scoring. The TCU and OSU game show that we can score points, but our defense will always give up more.
This is an awfully pessimistic take after our defense (without our two best players) just held Baylor to half its scoring average.
Lol, man some people just can't accept reality.
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If we continue to try and run the football, we should do alright. Tech, KU, and ISU suck badly against the run. Tech and WVU can't sack anyone. So, there should be limited pressure on Hubener that we've seen with the better teams.
Tech will be difficult. But I think we can Snyderball them (as has been mentioned). WVU is a better team, but they seem to really regress on the road, and if we're looking at bowl eligibility on Senior Day, and we've picked up a couple of wins in a row, I think BSFS will be a tough place to play.
I think we can win out, but I think it's better than 50% that we go 3-1.
You forget that we also have to stop the other team from scoring. The TCU and OSU game show that we can score points, but our defense will always give up more.
I truly don't understand how you fail to acknowledge any bright sports on the defense. Do the numbers only matter sometimes, when convenient?
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Will we play in a bowl game?
Yes but lose.
A bowl will force me to curb my anger and not revisit it until 2016 when the supposed "run" is to occur(it won't), and the same ol' rummy coaches will still be on the sideline and Tuck Nation will be licking the sweat from their balls while the players saw wood.
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If we continue to try and run the football, we should do alright. Tech, KU, and ISU suck badly against the run. Tech and WVU can't sack anyone. So, there should be limited pressure on Hubener that we've seen with the better teams.
Tech will be difficult. But I think we can Snyderball them (as has been mentioned). WVU is a better team, but they seem to really regress on the road, and if we're looking at bowl eligibility on Senior Day, and we've picked up a couple of wins in a row, I think BSFS will be a tough place to play.
I think we can win out, but I think it's better than 50% that we go 3-1.
You forget that we also have to stop the other team from scoring. The TCU and OSU game show that we can score points, but our defense will always give up more.
This is an awfully pessimistic take after our defense (without our two best players) just held Baylor to half its scoring average.
Lol, man some people just can't accept reality.
I'm talking numbers, Bro. If you think there is a universe in which our defense is going to completely shut down big pass plays in this era, then you are the one living in fantasy land.
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Only team in the conference that has played all top four teams
6th in scoring defense
2nd in rushing defense
8th in passing defense
5th in total defense
Again we've already played the 1,2,4, & 5 scoring offenses, yet to play 6,8, & 10.
Our defense is total trash :rolleyes:
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i'm with MIR here. it's not a good defense, but it's not abysmal.
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Only team in the conference that has played all top four teams
6th in scoring defense
2nd in rushing defense
8th in passing defense
5th in total defense
Again we've already played the 1,2,4, & 5 scoring offenses, yet to play 6,8, & 10.
Our defense is total trash :rolleyes:
Good post. I appreciate your reasonable perspective on this year's football team. There has been plenty of disappointment, but I don't see a program in disarray by any means.
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What does the chingdex say about our ranking in defensive efficiency? I thought i remembered it being 7th or 8th
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If we continue to try and run the football, we should do alright. Tech, KU, and ISU suck badly against the run. Tech and WVU can't sack anyone. So, there should be limited pressure on Hubener that we've seen with the better teams.
Tech will be difficult. But I think we can Snyderball them (as has been mentioned). WVU is a better team, but they seem to really regress on the road, and if we're looking at bowl eligibility on Senior Day, and we've picked up a couple of wins in a row, I think BSFS will be a tough place to play.
I think we can win out, but I think it's better than 50% that we go 3-1.
You forget that we also have to stop the other team from scoring. The TCU and OSU game show that we can score points, but our defense will always give up more.
This is an awfully pessimistic take after our defense (without our two best players) just held Baylor to half its scoring average.
Yeah, from a freshman QB Stidham who never started a game at this level. Not once did our defense get inside his head.
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If we continue to try and run the football, we should do alright. Tech, KU, and ISU suck badly against the run. Tech and WVU can't sack anyone. So, there should be limited pressure on Hubener that we've seen with the better teams.
Tech will be difficult. But I think we can Snyderball them (as has been mentioned). WVU is a better team, but they seem to really regress on the road, and if we're looking at bowl eligibility on Senior Day, and we've picked up a couple of wins in a row, I think BSFS will be a tough place to play.
I think we can win out, but I think it's better than 50% that we go 3-1.
You forget that we also have to stop the other team from scoring. The TCU and OSU game show that we can score points, but our defense will always give up more.
This is an awfully pessimistic take after our defense (without our two best players) just held Baylor to half its scoring average.
Yeah, from a freshman QB Stidham who never started a game at this level. Not once did our defense get inside his head.
You're right. He probably only would have managed 14 points against any other defense. It's amazing Baylor's offense was even able to function without Heisman lock Seth whatever his name.
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We rough ridin' suck and will probably finish 5-8.
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We will get to 6 wins. I believe.
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We rough ridin' suck and will probably finish 5-8.
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That's impossible, bud.
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7-5
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If we continue to try and run the football, we should do alright. Tech, KU, and ISU suck badly against the run. Tech and WVU can't sack anyone. So, there should be limited pressure on Hubener that we've seen with the better teams.
Tech will be difficult. But I think we can Snyderball them (as has been mentioned). WVU is a better team, but they seem to really regress on the road, and if we're looking at bowl eligibility on Senior Day, and we've picked up a couple of wins in a row, I think BSFS will be a tough place to play.
I think we can win out, but I think it's better than 50% that we go 3-1.
You forget that we also have to stop the other team from scoring. The TCU and OSU game show that we can score points, but our defense will always give up more.
This is an awfully pessimistic take after our defense (without our two best players) just held Baylor to half its scoring average.
Our offense held Baylor to half its scoring average. The defense yielded a touchdown whenever Baylor wanted one.
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If we continue to try and run the football, we should do alright. Tech, KU, and ISU suck badly against the run. Tech and WVU can't sack anyone. So, there should be limited pressure on Hubener that we've seen with the better teams.
Tech will be difficult. But I think we can Snyderball them (as has been mentioned). WVU is a better team, but they seem to really regress on the road, and if we're looking at bowl eligibility on Senior Day, and we've picked up a couple of wins in a row, I think BSFS will be a tough place to play.
I think we can win out, but I think it's better than 50% that we go 3-1.
You forget that we also have to stop the other team from scoring. The TCU and OSU game show that we can score points, but our defense will always give up more.
This is an awfully pessimistic take after our defense (without our two best players) just held Baylor to half its scoring average.
Our offense held Baylor to half its scoring average. The defense yielded a touchdown whenever Baylor wanted one.
That is a great way to put it. I am hopeful our offense can do the same with the next four opponents.
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If we continue to try and run the football, we should do alright. Tech, KU, and ISU suck badly against the run. Tech and WVU can't sack anyone. So, there should be limited pressure on Hubener that we've seen with the better teams.
Tech will be difficult. But I think we can Snyderball them (as has been mentioned). WVU is a better team, but they seem to really regress on the road, and if we're looking at bowl eligibility on Senior Day, and we've picked up a couple of wins in a row, I think BSFS will be a tough place to play.
I think we can win out, but I think it's better than 50% that we go 3-1.
You forget that we also have to stop the other team from scoring. The TCU and OSU game show that we can score points, but our defense will always give up more.
This is an awfully pessimistic take after our defense (without our two best players) just held Baylor to half its scoring average.
Our offense held Baylor to half its scoring average. The defense yielded a touchdown whenever Baylor wanted one.
My memory is a little hazy, but this is how I remember the baylor game. The only reason we held them to anything below their "normal" scoring average is because we hold the ball so long on offense. They had multiple scoring drives of under 2 minutes. Our defense sucks and would have given up 50+ if we had a normal offense, not Snyderball.
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Yes our offense contributes to defensive efficiency (as it always has under Snyder). I'll leave it to folks like _fan to crunch the numbers, but our defense did actually come up with some stops.
Going into the game Baylor averaged under 3 punts per game. They punted more than that in the first half IIRC.
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Yes our offense contributes to defensive efficiency (as it always has under Snyder). I'll leave it to folks like _fan to crunch the numbers, but our defense did actually come up with some stops.
Going into the game Baylor averaged under 3 punts per game. They punted more than that in the first half IIRC.
I know I am likely the most vocal critic of our defense. I think they play soft, sloppy, and undisciplined.
But
The Baylor game can be put into a little bit more perspective:
Baylor's adjusted Off Efficiency is to score about 3.9 pts per "meaningful" offensive drive. In that game, we ended up holding them to 3.1 pts per drive, so far tied for the lowest of the year for them. (FYI Iowa State also held them to 3.1 pts per drive and Baylor's schedule thus far is hot garbage). So while our ball-control offense certainly helped keep the score closer, the defense didn't perform disastrously bad.
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If we continue to try and run the football, we should do alright. Tech, KU, and ISU suck badly against the run. Tech and WVU can't sack anyone. So, there should be limited pressure on Hubener that we've seen with the better teams.
Tech will be difficult. But I think we can Snyderball them (as has been mentioned). WVU is a better team, but they seem to really regress on the road, and if we're looking at bowl eligibility on Senior Day, and we've picked up a couple of wins in a row, I think BSFS will be a tough place to play.
I think we can win out, but I think it's better than 50% that we go 3-1.
You forget that we also have to stop the other team from scoring. The TCU and OSU game show that we can score points, but our defense will always give up more.
This is an awfully pessimistic take after our defense (without our two best players) just held Baylor to half its scoring average.
Our offense held Baylor to half its scoring average. The defense yielded a touchdown whenever Baylor wanted one.
My memory is a little hazy, but this is how I remember the baylor game. The only reason we held them to anything below their "normal" scoring average is because we hold the ball so long on offense. They had multiple scoring drives of under 2 minutes. Our defense sucks and would have given up 50+ if we had a normal offense, not Snyderball.
JFC guys, you can't have one without the other, that's not how it works.
Also for the record Baylor had 10 possessions that didn't end with the half ending. They scored on 5 and were stopped on 5. Baylor also punted more than we did 3-2. I'm certain this won't result with anyone saying "wow I was wrong, our defense did much better than I thought."
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We rough ridin' suck and will probably finish 5-8.
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That's impossible, bud.
Not with a loss in the bowl game, dumbass!
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We rough ridin' suck and will probably finish 5-8.
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That's impossible, bud.
Not with a loss in the bowl game, dumbass!
Would require waiver from the NCAA for that to happen.
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We rough ridin' suck and will probably finish 5-8.
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That's impossible, bud.
Not with a loss in the bowl game, dumbass!
Yeah, they're not taking a 5-7 K-State team and you know it.
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If we continue to try and run the football, we should do alright. Tech, KU, and ISU suck badly against the run. Tech and WVU can't sack anyone. So, there should be limited pressure on Hubener that we've seen with the better teams.
Tech will be difficult. But I think we can Snyderball them (as has been mentioned). WVU is a better team, but they seem to really regress on the road, and if we're looking at bowl eligibility on Senior Day, and we've picked up a couple of wins in a row, I think BSFS will be a tough place to play.
I think we can win out, but I think it's better than 50% that we go 3-1.
You forget that we also have to stop the other team from scoring. The TCU and OSU game show that we can score points, but our defense will always give up more.
This is an awfully pessimistic take after our defense (without our two best players) just held Baylor to half its scoring average.
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28 points isn't that much for a first quarter I guess
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DNR. Does this apply here?
http://www.onthebanks.com/2015/11/11/9706576/a-5-win-bowl-team-it-s-not-impossible
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I'm sad. I now think we will not play in a bowl game.
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3-9 or 4-8
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I'm sad. I now think we will not play in a bowl game.
Sorry bones, but this just makes me... :ROFL:
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3-9 or 4-8
It's silly to think we are going to beat anyone, just because. This is something LHCBS has been trying to explain to fans since we started the downward spiral. The talent we currently have is no better than ISU, KU or WVU. We as fans need to grab a reality check that K-State had marginal talent at best going into this season. A backup QB that had never started at that position period, should have been your first indicator. That did not happen this year. But a season riddled with injuries merely unveiled what everyone has known.
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This coaching staff doesn't deserve to go to a bowl game.
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No
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This coaching staff doesn't deserve to go to a bowl game.
Since the coaches can't play the game for them, I assume you mean this team does not deserve it. I don't want to imply the team does not deserve to go to a bowl, but I am not sure they are talented enough.
I continue to be fascinated of the total meltdown by fans but I have to ask which would be worse, win next week in Manhattan only to lose in Lawrence the following week or lose the remaining games? If you think things are bad now, let KU be the nail that prevents K-State from going bowling.
As for ISU next week, I am even more fascinated when each others fan base has more faith (or should I say less faith in their own) in their opponent's team. This may be the best game played next Saturday; 2 teams playing not to lose.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation (http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation)
A good breakdown by McMurphy... There are likely going to be a handful of 5-7 teams needed to fill all of the bowl games and APR appears to be a factor on who is selected. K-State has the 10th highest APR of the non-qualified teams. Assuming a couple of the teams in front of us finish worse than 5-7, K-State will be in the discussion for one of those empty spots if we're 5-7.
If we can't finish 6-6 I don't want a bowl game.
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If we can't finish 6-6 I don't want a bowl game.
Yeah, this would basically be the football equivalent of the CBI.
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If we can't finish 6-6 I don't want a bowl game.
Yeah, this would basically be the football equivalent of the CBI.
As a fan I feel this way, but the conventional wisdom is that the extra bowl practices are a big help leading into the following season, so I'd prefer a bowl game even if it was something I didn't care to watch.
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any chance that bill and staff are trying to dump the season to teach the fans a lesson for being bad fans?
attendance this season has not been up to par, would i be shocked? no.
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Only team in the conference that has played all top four teams
6th in scoring defense
2nd in rushing defense
8th in passing defense
5th in total defense
Again we've already played the 1,2,4, & 5 scoring offenses, yet to play 6,8, & 10.
Our defense is total trash :rolleyes:
Good post. I appreciate your reasonable perspective on this year's football team. There has been plenty of disappointment, but I don't see a program in disarray by any means.
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HOPE IS STILL ALIVE!
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Liberty Bowl or bust.
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We might!
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If coach retires, and we make a bowl, there could be 30k cat fans at some super terrible bowl game. would be amazing.
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It would be pretty great if we could beat coal aggy to go 6-6.
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If coach retires, and we make a bowl, there could be 30k cat fans at some super terrible bowl game. would be amazing.
he really needs to announce it on like tuesday so we can get even more Cats in Lawrence than usual, and an actual packed house sell out vs WVU
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If coach retires, and we make a bowl, there could be 30k cat fans at some super terrible bowl game. would be amazing.
he really needs to announce it on like tuesday so we can get even more Cats in Lawrence than usual, and an actual packed house sell out vs WVU
Pretty much my dream scenario.
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No
Maybe
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Magic 8 ball says "Possible"
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Only team in the conference that has played all top four teams
6th in scoring defense
2nd in rushing defense
8th in passing defense
5th in total defense
Again we've already played the 1,2,4, & 5 scoring offenses, yet to play 6,8, & 10.
Our defense is total trash :rolleyes:
Good post. I appreciate your reasonable perspective on this year's football team. There has been plenty of disappointment, but I don't see a program in disarray by any means.
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The godawful offense has really done a great deal of damage to the defense. Saturday was a perfect example of that. In this conference with all of the no huddle spread offenses 3 and outs on offense are deadly, even more so when those three and outs are coupled with two or three incomplete passes.
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We will have a bowl game because we'll finish 6-6, or 5-7. If it's the latter, we'll play because of all the extra practices and the APR ranks us second, which guarantees a game. Although Bill says he'll leave it to the seniors, we'll go bowling even at 5-7. :billdance:
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We will have a bowl game because we'll finish 6-6, or 5-7. If it's the latter, we'll play because of all the extra practices and the APR ranks us second, which guarantees a game. Although Bill says he'll leave it to the seniors, we'll go bowling even at 5-7. :billdance:
Dat vote:
Hey youngsters, want to go on a holiday roadtrip and get a bunch of bowl game swag? Of course you do! See you in Memphis!