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Title: Fun with math...
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on October 10, 2015, 10:30:40 PM
By my estimates, we wasted AT LEAST 6 minutes of opportunity to burn clock in 2H by not just running it every snap.

Not to mention the fact that by NOT throwing, we don't serve up a pick-six, but that has nada to do with the fun math above.

 :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Fun with math...
Post by: nicname on October 10, 2015, 10:44:19 PM
I haven't been this disappointed by KSU football in a very long time. At least not in a single game.
Title: Re: Fun with math...
Post by: EMAWzified on October 10, 2015, 10:47:33 PM
By my estimates, we wasted AT LEAST 6 minutes of opportunity to burn clock in 2H by not just running it every snap.

Not to mention the fact that by NOT throwing, we don't serve up a pick-six, but that has nada to do with the fun math above.

 :buh-bye:

Not to mention how much more frustrating it would have made TCU or how much more it would have worn down their defense. Just mumped up play calling.
Title: Re: Fun with math...
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on October 10, 2015, 11:07:56 PM
I'm absolutely baffled by it all... We ran it for 165 yards in 1H and they simply couldn't stop us.

We could've just run it every snap and had a better chance to win than coming out and throwing it on the first 5 or 6 plays and giving up a pick six to spark their sideline.

Absolutely pathetic.
Title: Re: Fun with math...
Post by: _33 on October 10, 2015, 11:36:48 PM
If Hubener would have completed some passes it probably would have been ok though.
Title: Re: Fun with math...
Post by: ELL3 on October 11, 2015, 04:18:23 AM
We are as poorly coordinated as we were in 2004 and 2005, remember when people wanted Dimel to follow Bill?
Title: Re: Fun with math...
Post by: catastrophe on October 11, 2015, 08:57:44 AM
Time management didn't mean much in this game. Most of TCU's scores came in a very short amount of time.

I totally get the play calling, and I don't necessarily disagree with it. But two weeks in a row we have put the game on BY FAR our weakest position (WR) and it has blown up on us both times.
Title: Re: Fun with math...
Post by: slobber on October 11, 2015, 09:37:27 AM
Time management limits possessions. When you are up 18, limiting possessions means something. Good grief.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Fun with math...
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 11, 2015, 09:42:18 AM
If I had told you before the season that we were going to have Hubener chucking the ball deep to Zach Reuter over and over again in the second half against TCU what would you have thought?
Title: Re: Fun with math...
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on October 11, 2015, 12:15:18 PM
Time management limits possessions. When you are up 18, limiting possessions means something. Good grief.


Gonna win 'em all!

This.

Plus, being down 3 scores with no momentum adds great pressure to an offense and pressure is the greatest enemy of offense.
Title: Re: Fun with math...
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 11, 2015, 12:18:50 PM
If I had told you before the season that we were going to have Hubener chucking the ball deep to Zach Reuter over and over again in the second half against TCU what would you have thought?

I would have thought that we must be playing down by 18 points or something.
Title: Re: Fun with math...
Post by: MakeItRain on October 11, 2015, 12:57:59 PM
Time management didn't mean much in this game.

Are you high?
Title: Re: Fun with math...
Post by: Kat Kid on October 11, 2015, 04:45:38 PM
Time management didn't mean much in this game.

Are you high?

probably not.  likely just uninformed, as in didn't actually look at the box score.
Title: Re: Fun with math...
Post by: catastrophe on October 11, 2015, 05:28:28 PM

Time management didn't mean much in this game.

Are you high?

probably not.  likely just uninformed, as in didn't actually look at the box score.

Well, box score says we did actually win the TOP battle 2:1 which is pretty good but we still lost, so in that sense it did not mean much.

Second, if we take the alternate reality approach and shorten the game by 6 minutes, we still lose (TCU went up with something like 7 minutes left I think).

Third, we were ahead by 3 scores, but we were playing one of the nation's top offenses and got a huge INT to slow down TCU in the first half. We were not going to win the game without continuing to score.

No one knows whether more runs would have given us the necessary production to move the chains. That said, if we go up on the Sooners in the first half next week, you can bet we'll run more to start the 3rd quarter.
Title: Re: Fun with math...
Post by: The Big Train on October 11, 2015, 05:37:28 PM
I read the first sentence then quit reading because you're a rough ridin' dumbass
Title: Re: Fun with math...
Post by: kso_FAN on October 11, 2015, 07:26:16 PM

Time management didn't mean much in this game.

Are you high?

probably not.  likely just uninformed, as in didn't actually look at the box score.

Well, box score says we did actually win the TOP battle 2:1 which is pretty good but we still lost, so in that sense it did not mean much.

Second, if we take the alternate reality approach and shorten the game by 6 minutes, we still lose (TCU went up with something like 7 minutes left I think).

Third, we were ahead by 3 scores, but we were playing one of the nation's top offenses and got a huge INT to slow down TCU in the first half. We were not going to win the game without continuing to score.

No one knows whether more runs would have given us the necessary production to move the chains. That said, if we go up on the Sooners in the first half next week, you can bet we'll run more to start the 3rd quarter.

TCU's defense (especially linebackers) are extremely aggressive and we killed them with QB read plays. In fact, we were reading ILBs a bunch when we ran reads because they fly to the ball so much. However, we pretty much went away from those calls most of the 3rd quarter and it cost us.

I understand the passing calls because just like last week there were schematic advantages to many of them. However, that doesn't make them the right calls, especially after they blew up on us for 2 third quarters in a row. I get that QB depth is an issue and there is a fear in running the QB, but wins are important and Hubener has actually gotten better at not taking tough hits. Stay with what helped you run all over TCU and score those 35 points in the first half. Instead, not only did the passing game only allows us to score 10 2nd half points, we also gave TCU back 7 on the pick 6.

I rationalized some of the play calling last week based on breaking down the film, but I can't defend it again after it brought us the same problems.
Title: Re: Fun with math...
Post by: catastrophe on October 11, 2015, 07:35:09 PM
^Fair points.

And I actually forgot the announcer's point during the game that TCU has undersized LBs since they are built to defend the spread.