Post by: ShellShock on October 05, 2015, 09:22:11 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2015, 09:23:28 AM
Post by: pissclams on October 05, 2015, 09:25:22 AM
Post by: AbeFroman on October 05, 2015, 09:33:59 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on October 05, 2015, 09:35:07 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2015, 09:37:04 AM
Post by: puniraptor on October 05, 2015, 09:39:20 AM
Post by: puniraptor on October 05, 2015, 09:39:33 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2015, 09:51:29 AM
or from an estate sale
I know of one soon
Post by: puniraptor on October 05, 2015, 09:57:31 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 05, 2015, 10:09:18 AM
Post by: DQ12 on October 05, 2015, 10:09:38 AM
honestly i think most people with sleep apnea are just lazybad genes
Post by: ShellShock on October 05, 2015, 10:31:33 AM
No offense - I'm assuming there are cases of sleep apnea in younger individuals that aren't related to obesity, so feel free to tell me to eff off - but you should probably focus on losing weight. Wearing a mask to bed every night is no way to live, and there are so many other health problems associated with excessive weight. Focus on your health!
I'm 6'-2" and weigh 200 lbs...i don't think that weight loss is the solution as i'm not overweight.
Post by: pissclams on October 05, 2015, 10:45:34 AM
Post by: steve dave on October 05, 2015, 10:47:28 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 05, 2015, 10:55:03 AM
No offense - I'm assuming there are cases of sleep apnea in younger individuals that aren't related to obesity, so feel free to tell me to eff off - but you should probably focus on losing weight. Wearing a mask to bed every night is no way to live, and there are so many other health problems associated with excessive weight. Focus on your health!
eff off, you're wrong. If he has sleep apnea it is unlikely that losing weight will help, only if he has a mild form.
I knew I had sleep apnea when I was a freshman in college. I was 6'2" 160 lbs. Unfortunately I am from a home town with not many medical options and the Lafene Health Center didn't offer much help. It wasn't until I moved to Wichita 7 years later and saw real doctors that I was able to get a sleep study. I was not only snoring heavily but doing all of that crazy crap like falling asleep at stop lights. I was diagnosed with severe sleep apnea, so sleep apnea is not a condition for just obese people. Flo Hyman was one of the best volleyball players in American history and she died of a heart attack on the floor while playing. She had marfan syndrome which caused sleep apnea. Reggie White also died from complications caused by sleep apnea.
ShellShock, even if you are obese or can stand to lose a few pounds, that doesn't have a rough ridin' thing to do with what you need to do now. These rough ridin' morons popping their mouths off on here aren't doctors, eff them. The sleep study was a rough ridin' nightmare for me. I went to the sleep center and they hooked all of these wires and sensors all over my face and body. They tried to make me go to bed at 10:00PM, just go straight to sleep. No music, books, tv, nothing; they just wanted you to sleep with all of this crap hooked up to you while they were watching you. Well the entire night, 10-6AM I slept for 45 rough ridin' minutes. I had to go back a second time and I convinced them to let me read and when I got tired I would put the book down, turn the lights off and go to sleep. They allowed me to read and I slept. I averaged 42 events per hour which, is awful.
I was given the choice to have surgery or to go on the cpap and I elected for the cpap, not a fan of elective surgeries. I started with a full face mask, you are allowed to breath normally while awake when wearing the full face. I noticed a difference the first night. I stopped using the full face mask because it wasn't comfortable and it looked stupid. I went to one that just covered my nose but that was crazy hard to use, so I went back to the full face permanently. You never ever ever get used to the mask, I have had mine for a decade now. I still mess with it on a nightly basis. I switched to a new brand last winter and I was thinking over the weekend that I want to switch back to what I used before. Despite never getting used to the mask, using the cpap has absolutely changed my life. You have no idea how much negative impact sleep apnea has on your life until it gets fixed. There are times when I don't use my mask because I fall asleep before I put it on and I pay for it. I don't know if this is because I am older but when I forget my apneas are much more severe, I wake up gasping for air and it takes me a few more seconds before I can get a breath, its like drowning out of water.
ShellShock, run don't walk to the nearest sleep center and get it done man, your life depends on it. Oh also, if you do have sleep apnea and have to get a cpap DO NOT get your supplies from APRIA healthcare. They charged my insurance $750 for a mask that costs $100 on the internet. My insurance came after me for the money. Also do not buy a cpap used or any of the equipment used, it needs to be calibrated to what your sleep needs are, if you travel to high altitudes you will also need to take it in to be recalibrated.
Post by: steve dave on October 05, 2015, 11:02:36 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2015, 11:12:09 AM
Post by: sys on October 05, 2015, 11:24:28 AM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 05, 2015, 11:34:17 AM
go do the study. sleep is important to your health and you never know what theyll find.
Post by: pissclams on October 05, 2015, 11:36:57 AM
If a person snores a lot and complains of not getting any sleep, could it be caused by sleep apnea? What should I do to monitor them to determine if they have sleep apnea?
i would do what any normal person would do- come here and rely on the advice of a bunch of strangers on the internet
Post by: ShellShock on October 05, 2015, 11:45:09 AM
No offense - I'm assuming there are cases of sleep apnea in younger individuals that aren't related to obesity, so feel free to tell me to eff off - but you should probably focus on losing weight. Wearing a mask to bed every night is no way to live, and there are so many other health problems associated with excessive weight. Focus on your health!
eff off, you're wrong. If he has sleep apnea it is unlikely that losing weight will help, only if he has a mild form.
I knew I had sleep apnea when I was a freshman in college. I was 6'2" 160 lbs. Unfortunately I am from a home town with not many medical options and the Lafene Health Center didn't offer much help. It wasn't until I moved to Wichita 7 years later and saw real doctors that I was able to get a sleep study. I was not only snoring heavily but doing all of that crazy crap like falling asleep at stop lights. I was diagnosed with severe sleep apnea, so sleep apnea is not a condition for just obese people. Flo Hyman was one of the best volleyball players in American history and she died of a heart attack on the floor while playing. She had marfan syndrome which caused sleep apnea. Reggie White also died from complications caused by sleep apnea.
ShellShock, even if you are obese or can stand to lose a few pounds, that doesn't have a rough ridin' thing to do with what you need to do now. These rough ridin' morons popping their mouths off on here aren't doctors, eff them. The sleep study was a rough ridin' nightmare for me. I went to the sleep center and they hooked all of these wires and sensors all over my face and body. They tried to make me go to bed at 10:00PM, just go straight to sleep. No music, books, tv, nothing; they just wanted you to sleep with all of this crap hooked up to you while they were watching you. Well the entire night, 10-6AM I slept for 45 rough ridin' minutes. I had to go back a second time and I convinced them to let me read and when I got tired I would put the book down, turn the lights off and go to sleep. They allowed me to read and I slept. I averaged 42 events per hour which, is awful.
I was given the choice to have surgery or to go on the cpap and I elected for the cpap, not a fan of elective surgeries. I started with a full face mask, you are allowed to breath normally while awake when wearing the full face. I noticed a difference the first night. I stopped using the full face mask because it wasn't comfortable and it looked stupid. I went to one that just covered my nose but that was crazy hard to use, so I went back to the full face permanently. You never ever ever get used to the mask, I have had mine for a decade now. I still mess with it on a nightly basis. I switched to a new brand last winter and I was thinking over the weekend that I want to switch back to what I used before. Despite never getting used to the mask, using the cpap has absolutely changed my life. You have no idea how much negative impact sleep apnea has on your life until it gets fixed. There are times when I don't use my mask because I fall asleep before I put it on and I pay for it. I don't know if this is because I am older but when I forget my apneas are much more severe, I wake up gasping for air and it takes me a few more seconds before I can get a breath, its like drowning out of water.
ShellShock, run don't walk to the nearest sleep center and get it done man, your life depends on it. Oh also, if you do have sleep apnea and have to get a cpap DO NOT get your supplies from APRIA healthcare. They charged my insurance $750 for a mask that costs $100 on the internet. My insurance came after me for the money. Also do not buy a cpap used or any of the equipment used, it needs to be calibrated to what your sleep needs are, if you travel to high altitudes you will also need to take it in to be recalibrated.
:thumbsup: Thanks for the info MiR!
I'm a big stomach sleeper, will this completely screw up my sleep like that? I'm not sure if I can sleep with the nose mask while on my stomach. I suppose I can teach myself to sleep on my back but that doesn't sound like fun.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on October 05, 2015, 11:46:57 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2015, 11:48:37 AM
a friend had a lot of issues and changed to nasal pillows, said it was much more comfortable.
WTF is a nasal pillow?
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on October 05, 2015, 12:24:57 PM
a friend had a lot of issues and changed to nasal pillows, said it was much more comfortable.
WTF is a nasal pillow?
they basically go right into your nostril vs. just cover your nose (https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTPIv7iLmK-Ul0p3IokbCqWwLHhZq7nwOSBUPbMt1-T9AOT2Nhh)
Post by: The Big Train on October 05, 2015, 12:36:36 PM
also I don't think I have sleep apnea, just insomnia, but it actually has gotten better recently, probably due to less stress I think
Post by: MakeItRain on October 05, 2015, 02:17:56 PM
No offense - I'm assuming there are cases of sleep apnea in younger individuals that aren't related to obesity, so feel free to tell me to eff off - but you should probably focus on losing weight. Wearing a mask to bed every night is no way to live, and there are so many other health problems associated with excessive weight. Focus on your health!
eff off, you're wrong. If he has sleep apnea it is unlikely that losing weight will help, only if he has a mild form.
I knew I had sleep apnea when I was a freshman in college. I was 6'2" 160 lbs. Unfortunately I am from a home town with not many medical options and the Lafene Health Center didn't offer much help. It wasn't until I moved to Wichita 7 years later and saw real doctors that I was able to get a sleep study. I was not only snoring heavily but doing all of that crazy crap like falling asleep at stop lights. I was diagnosed with severe sleep apnea, so sleep apnea is not a condition for just obese people. Flo Hyman was one of the best volleyball players in American history and she died of a heart attack on the floor while playing. She had marfan syndrome which caused sleep apnea. Reggie White also died from complications caused by sleep apnea.
ShellShock, even if you are obese or can stand to lose a few pounds, that doesn't have a rough ridin' thing to do with what you need to do now. These rough ridin' morons popping their mouths off on here aren't doctors, eff them. The sleep study was a rough ridin' nightmare for me. I went to the sleep center and they hooked all of these wires and sensors all over my face and body. They tried to make me go to bed at 10:00PM, just go straight to sleep. No music, books, tv, nothing; they just wanted you to sleep with all of this crap hooked up to you while they were watching you. Well the entire night, 10-6AM I slept for 45 rough ridin' minutes. I had to go back a second time and I convinced them to let me read and when I got tired I would put the book down, turn the lights off and go to sleep. They allowed me to read and I slept. I averaged 42 events per hour which, is awful.
I was given the choice to have surgery or to go on the cpap and I elected for the cpap, not a fan of elective surgeries. I started with a full face mask, you are allowed to breath normally while awake when wearing the full face. I noticed a difference the first night. I stopped using the full face mask because it wasn't comfortable and it looked stupid. I went to one that just covered my nose but that was crazy hard to use, so I went back to the full face permanently. You never ever ever get used to the mask, I have had mine for a decade now. I still mess with it on a nightly basis. I switched to a new brand last winter and I was thinking over the weekend that I want to switch back to what I used before. Despite never getting used to the mask, using the cpap has absolutely changed my life. You have no idea how much negative impact sleep apnea has on your life until it gets fixed. There are times when I don't use my mask because I fall asleep before I put it on and I pay for it. I don't know if this is because I am older but when I forget my apneas are much more severe, I wake up gasping for air and it takes me a few more seconds before I can get a breath, its like drowning out of water.
ShellShock, run don't walk to the nearest sleep center and get it done man, your life depends on it. Oh also, if you do have sleep apnea and have to get a cpap DO NOT get your supplies from APRIA healthcare. They charged my insurance $750 for a mask that costs $100 on the internet. My insurance came after me for the money. Also do not buy a cpap used or any of the equipment used, it needs to be calibrated to what your sleep needs are, if you travel to high altitudes you will also need to take it in to be recalibrated.
:thumbsup: Thanks for the info MiR!
I'm a big stomach sleeper, will this completely screw up my sleep like that? I'm not sure if I can sleep with the nose mask while on my stomach. I suppose I can teach myself to sleep on my back but that doesn't sound like fun.
Your stomach sleeping days are ova, it's a contributing factor.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 05, 2015, 02:20:11 PM
MIR, that sounds terrible compared to the elective surgery imo. Great to hear how much it helped though.
I know. I wish I weren't such a coward about hospital germs.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 05, 2015, 02:30:27 PM
my dentist spent my entire last appointment talking to me about sleep apnea like he was a jehovah's witness for sleep apnea (or against it, i guess). it was kinda weird.
Yeah, I think there is a pharma that kicks back some cash to dentists to get people to get that mouthpiece, my doctor has never recommended one.
If a person snores a lot and complains of not getting any sleep, could it be caused by sleep apnea? What should I do to monitor them to determine if they have sleep apnea?
It's not just snoring, but if the snoring sounds arrested at times he may have a problem. Listen for what may sound like stopped breathing. The not getting sleep thing is a red flag, if he's really tired in the afternoons, frequently that's bad. Waking up with headaches is another red flag.
If this hypothetical person has a concern I'm surprised this person hasn't asked me about this before, he found out that I had it 5 years ago.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2015, 02:33:41 PM
If a person snores a lot and complains of not getting any sleep, could it be caused by sleep apnea? What should I do to monitor them to determine if they have sleep apnea?
It's not just snoring, but if the snoring sounds arrested at times he may have a problem. Listen for what may sound like stopped breathing. The not getting sleep thing is a red flag, if he's really tired in the afternoons, frequently that's bad. Waking up with headaches is another red flag.
If this hypothetical person has a concern I'm surprised this person hasn't asked me about this before, he found out that I had it 5 years ago.
I don't think he is concerned because he probably hasn't considered this possibility but he does frequently have headaches and wake up after having gotten hardly any sleep. The snoring starts and stops and sometimes it is so loud that he wakes himself up.
Post by: DQ12 on October 05, 2015, 02:34:26 PM
Post by: porky morgan on October 05, 2015, 02:34:59 PM
BTW my understanding is that when you fall asleep your body's muscles relax and in a normal situation the throat muscles stay active enough through sleep to allow breathing. But some people have throat muscles that relax and collapse like the rest of the body. That's apnea.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2015, 02:40:48 PM
I don't have breathing problems tho, so I don't think it's an apnea thing
Post by: CNS on October 05, 2015, 04:02:48 PM
i'm a teeth grinder. wonder if that could be bad genes too?
I did this. Got a bite guard. Huge diff in quality of sleep.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 05, 2015, 06:03:10 PM
If a person snores a lot and complains of not getting any sleep, could it be caused by sleep apnea? What should I do to monitor them to determine if they have sleep apnea?
It's not just snoring, but if the snoring sounds arrested at times he may have a problem. Listen for what may sound like stopped breathing. The not getting sleep thing is a red flag, if he's really tired in the afternoons, frequently that's bad. Waking up with headaches is another red flag.
If this hypothetical person has a concern I'm surprised this person hasn't asked me about this before, he found out that I had it 5 years ago.
I don't think he is concerned because he probably hasn't considered this possibility but he does frequently have headaches and wake up after having gotten hardly any sleep. The snoring starts and stops and sometimes it is so loud that he wakes himself up.
Gooch, please go to the doctor. I'm going to bust your ass about this until you do.
Post by: kslim on October 05, 2015, 07:29:43 PM
Post by: sys on October 05, 2015, 11:09:58 PM
Yeah, I think there is a pharma that kicks back some cash to dentists to get people to get that mouthpiece, my doctor has never recommended one.
ahhh. well, that makes it less weird. seems like a lotta extra work for the occasional kickback, i wouldn't have the energy.
Post by: Trim on October 05, 2015, 11:20:58 PM
Post by: Tobias on October 05, 2015, 11:23:38 PM
Post by: SdK on October 05, 2015, 11:55:09 PM
Post by: Tobias on October 06, 2015, 12:04:25 AM
Post by: Tobias on October 06, 2015, 12:07:53 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 06, 2015, 12:09:15 AM
https://twitter.com/hosienation/status/616098749211901953
Holy crap
Post by: Trim on October 06, 2015, 12:16:28 AM
Holy crap
You hadn't seen that? He did it at the end of 2013, but that recent tweet of it was what I could find that I knew would play in the thread.
Post by: Tobias on October 06, 2015, 12:20:06 AM
Post by: SdK on October 06, 2015, 12:27:15 AM
fattyfest performer and all around stud hosieOh yeah. I remember his set now. :D
Post by: MakeItRain on October 06, 2015, 12:41:23 AM
Holy crap
You hadn't seen that? He did it at the end of 2013, but that recent tweet of it was what I could find that I knew would play in the thread.
No, I stopped following him in the fall of 2013, he had a long string of tweets I found objectionable. Instead of having a sociological conversation on twitter with a comic I just decided to dip out.
Post by: ben ji on October 06, 2015, 12:47:59 AM
If you have never seen it its pretty crazy....Just imagine someone snoring away then all of a sudden nothing, for like 30 sec to 1 min, then BOOM! Snore/Gasping for breath but never really waking up from their sleep. It would happen at least a couple of times a hour.
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 06, 2015, 08:10:28 AM
Post by: renocat on October 06, 2015, 12:42:36 PM
Post by: Katpappy on October 06, 2015, 01:06:55 PM
i'm a teeth grinder. wonder if that could be bad genes too?Is this a full time job, or do you do it as a sideline.
P.S. I may need a tooth ground down a bit.
Post by: Ptolemy on October 06, 2015, 01:07:40 PM
Post by: Trim on October 06, 2015, 01:19:04 PM
Post by: ShellShock on October 06, 2015, 03:58:20 PM
The first pass of segmented sleep would be from roughly 9pm to 1am then the second would be 3am to 6am for a total of 7 hours of sleep per night. It's weird to think about, but apparently it really helps people.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 06, 2015, 04:02:43 PM
Also something of note: My doctor/specialist has mentioned trying to start me on a segmented sleep schedule. I have had some history with mild insomnia as well, so he thinks that with a combined cpap machine and going through and developing a segmented sleep schedule that all my nighttime sleep issues will be solved. It will be nice to not feel like crap all day every day like I have for the past 7 or 8 years.
The first pass of segmented sleep would be from roughly 9pm to 1am then the second would be 3am to 6am for a total of 7 hours of sleep per night. It's weird to think about, but apparently it really helps people.
So if you are sound asleep at 1am you still have to wake up and do something for 2 hours? Sounds terrible.
Post by: sys on October 06, 2015, 04:04:43 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 06, 2015, 04:09:29 PM
that's the natural human sleep pattern. but those people didn't have electricity or entertainment options.
Link? I would guess that it's normal to be awake the few hours before and after sundown, and maybe an hour or two before sunup for a few hours, and then rest/nap during the middle part of the day. Basically like other animals/predators.
Post by: sys on October 06, 2015, 04:34:03 PM
Link?
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=natural+human+sleep+cycle
Post by: puniraptor on October 06, 2015, 05:17:26 PM
Link?
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=natural+human+sleep+cycle
before reading any of these, does it have anything to do with putitng more sticks on the fire or making sure none of your children have been eaten by sabretoofs?
Post by: star seed 7 on October 06, 2015, 05:26:53 PM
Post by: wetwillie on October 06, 2015, 07:09:56 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 06, 2015, 09:23:52 PM
Also something of note: My doctor/specialist has mentioned trying to start me on a segmented sleep schedule. I have had some history with mild insomnia as well, so he thinks that with a combined cpap machine and going through and developing a segmented sleep schedule that all my nighttime sleep issues will be solved. It will be nice to not feel like crap all day every day like I have for the past 7 or 8 years.
The first pass of segmented sleep would be from roughly 9pm to 1am then the second would be 3am to 6am for a total of 7 hours of sleep per night. It's weird to think about, but apparently it really helps people.
So if you are sound asleep at 1am you still have to wake up and do something for 2 hours? Sounds terrible.
Yeah, poop. Going to sleep at 9PM and waking at 6 :flush:
Post by: big e z on October 06, 2015, 09:37:30 PM
Post by: ShellShock on October 07, 2015, 10:56:41 AM
Post by: The Big Train on October 07, 2015, 11:22:38 AM
Also something of note: My doctor/specialist has mentioned trying to start me on a segmented sleep schedule. I have had some history with mild insomnia as well, so he thinks that with a combined cpap machine and going through and developing a segmented sleep schedule that all my nighttime sleep issues will be solved. It will be nice to not feel like crap all day every day like I have for the past 7 or 8 years.
The first pass of segmented sleep would be from roughly 9pm to 1am then the second would be 3am to 6am for a total of 7 hours of sleep per night. It's weird to think about, but apparently it really helps people.
im pretty sure this would help me too, but the going to bed a 9PM would absolutely kill me. i dont mind waking up early but there is no way i could ever go to bed at 9PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 07, 2015, 01:19:22 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 07, 2015, 10:46:44 PM
Does anyone remember what your costs were for the sleep study and the cpap machine? I want to be prepared when they tell me how much it is...
When I had it done mine was 100% covered, don't have that insurance anymore. Just call the clinic and they can tell you what your estimated copay would be. You'll have to shop the machine if you need one, they vary wildly by price. You should prepare yourself for perhaps reaching your maximum OOP for durable medical goods. Masks start at $100 OOP, I can't imagine what a machine goes for these days.
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 08, 2015, 08:42:41 AM
Link?
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=natural+human+sleep+cycle
The links I read indicate the natural human sleep cycle is based on social constraints. Nothing biological. I disregard as unsubstantiated hogwash.
Post by: sys on October 08, 2015, 02:19:49 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 08, 2015, 02:25:42 PM
Also something of note: My doctor/specialist has mentioned trying to start me on a segmented sleep schedule. I have had some history with mild insomnia as well, so he thinks that with a combined cpap machine and going through and developing a segmented sleep schedule that all my nighttime sleep issues will be solved. It will be nice to not feel like crap all day every day like I have for the past 7 or 8 years.
The first pass of segmented sleep would be from roughly 9pm to 1am then the second would be 3am to 6am for a total of 7 hours of sleep per night. It's weird to think about, but apparently it really helps people.
So if you are sound asleep at 1am you still have to wake up and do something for 2 hours? Sounds terrible.
Yeah, poop. Going to sleep at 9PM and waking at 6 :flush:
I do this a lot but without the break in the middle. it's fantastic.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 08, 2015, 02:28:10 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 08, 2015, 02:29:01 PM
I go to sleep at 2am and get up at 7am,would not recommend
:frown:
Post by: sys on October 08, 2015, 02:41:23 PM
Yeah, poop. Going to sleep at 9PM and waking at 6 :flush:
I do this a lot but without the break in the middle. it's fantastic.
my wife can do this. sleeps for 9-11 hours straight, sometimes more. it's an amazing talent.
Post by: steve dave on October 08, 2015, 02:44:06 PM
Yeah, poop. Going to sleep at 9PM and waking at 6 :flush:
I do this a lot but without the break in the middle. it's fantastic.
my wife can do this. sleeps for 9-11 hours straight, sometimes more. it's an amazing talent.
I can do this, but I can't nap. no matter what. hungover and was up until 3 AM? "NO NAPPING!", says the brain.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 08, 2015, 02:46:27 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 08, 2015, 02:50:05 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 08, 2015, 02:55:26 PM
Post by: hemmy on October 08, 2015, 03:14:14 PM
I cannot go to sleep very quickly. I always lay there thinking about stuff. This also makes it difficult to nap when I really want to (but on some weekend days when I am just doing nothing at all that day I will fall asleep in front of the TV).
Same, except napping is very easy for me. Fall asleep instantly even when I don't want to.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 13, 2015, 03:07:46 PM
I go to sleep at 2am and get up at 7am,would not recommend
I'm a 3-8'er and love it
Post by: lopakman on October 13, 2015, 03:38:46 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on October 13, 2015, 04:23:08 PM
I'm undergoing apnea evaluation right now - may be causing atrial fibrillation in my case. Interestingly, they did my sleep study at home with a kit that they sent you that you hook up to yourself and then you send the unit back to them for evaluation. I'm currently waiting on the results. Getting a good night's sleep is worth it.
After I had a case of a-fib two years ago, they made me do the sleep study. It turned out alright, but it was a little unnerving.
I echo MIR's sentiments on the wires and nodes, people watching you sleep, etc. I went in with this tremendous fear, and in the morning, there was very little fan fare. A few days later, I talked with my cardiologist, and she said everything came back normal. That was that.
However, I encourage anyone to get a sleep study if their doctor even remotely recommends it. As mentioned, there are a ton of awful things that can come from sleep apnea.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 13, 2015, 04:51:59 PM
Post by: meow meow on October 13, 2015, 05:01:26 PM
I go to sleep at 2am and get up at 7am,would not recommend
I'm a 3-8'er and love it
what do you do until 3 am?
Post by: Skipper44 on October 14, 2015, 11:01:29 AM
do you eat dinner with the fam at 6 or 7 and then go 8 hours without eating?I go to sleep at 2am and get up at 7am,would not recommend
I'm a 3-8'er and love it
what do you do until 3 am?
Post by: star seed 7 on October 14, 2015, 11:47:40 AM
Post by: Skipper44 on October 14, 2015, 11:48:53 AM
Who eats dinner at 6-7? Are you 86?did you ignore the fam part of my question?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 14, 2015, 11:56:04 AM
Yeah, poop. Going to sleep at 9PM and waking at 6 :flush:
I do this a lot but without the break in the middle. it's fantastic.
my wife can do this. sleeps for 9-11 hours straight, sometimes more. it's an amazing talent.
I can do this, but I can't nap. no matter what. hungover and was up until 3 AM? "NO NAPPING!", says the brain.
Me either. Sunday on the couch after huge pak night before and no one around and boring chiefs game on? Nope, can't nap
would nap with lady friends in college but that was just my version of Netflix and chill back then.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 14, 2015, 01:41:50 PM
Do you guys ever dream that someone is sitting on your chest when you have sleep apnea?:fatty:
nope
Post by: MakeItRain on October 14, 2015, 01:43:55 PM
do you eat dinner with the fam at 6 or 7 and then go 8 hours without eating?I go to sleep at 2am and get up at 7am,would not recommend
I'm a 3-8'er and love it
what do you do until 3 am?
Most of the time, yes. I'll sometimes have a snack of fruit, chips and salsa, or a cliff bar around midnight if need be. If I stay hydrated I'm good.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 14, 2015, 01:45:07 PM
Who eats dinner at 6-7?
People with kids, noob
Post by: sys on October 14, 2015, 01:53:53 PM
Do you guys ever dream that someone is sitting on your chest when you have sleep apnea?
that sounds more like you have heart attacks, not sleep apnea.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 14, 2015, 01:56:35 PM
Do you guys ever dream that someone is sitting on your chest when you have sleep apnea?
that sounds more like you have heart attacks, not sleep apnea.
Well I might have those, but those are during the day. (Sometimes I have a sharp pain stabbing through my chest and I can feel it all the way through to my back.)
Post by: deputy dawg on October 14, 2015, 02:25:54 PM
Sleep apnea is very serious, consistently getting < 6 hours of sleep has a strong correlation to heart disease and dementia when you get older.
Post by: sys on October 14, 2015, 02:27:48 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 14, 2015, 02:32:19 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 14, 2015, 02:51:13 PM
what does this surgery to open up your breathing tubes entail and why does nobody opt for it?
Not everyone can get the surgery, like the obese. It also has a pretty low success rate, like 33%, I don't even know why its an option when 2 out of every 3 people still have to use a cpap after getting the surgery.
Post by: steve dave on October 14, 2015, 02:52:04 PM
what does this surgery to open up your breathing tubes entail and why does nobody opt for it?
Not everyone can get the surgery, like the obese. It also has a pretty low success rate, like 33%, I don't even know why its an option when 2 out of every 3 people still have to use a cpap after getting the surgery.
ok, that makes sense
Post by: slobber on October 14, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
I am amazed at the number of people in gE with sleep apnea. Percentage wise, out of consistent posters, it has to be 15%. Is that normal for the general population?
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Gooch on October 14, 2015, 03:11:20 PM
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Post by: Emo EMAW on October 14, 2015, 03:14:03 PM
I'd still opt to try for the surgery.
I am amazed at the number of people in gE with sleep apnea. Percentage wise, out of consistent posters, it has to be 15%. Is that normal for the general population?
Gonna win 'em all!
It actually makes me believe there are a lot less great looking fresh smelling people in here.
Post by: sys on October 14, 2015, 03:22:47 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 14, 2015, 03:26:19 PM
dying in your sleep is always held up as the gold standard for best ways to die anyways.
William Wallace disagrees!
Post by: MakeItRain on October 14, 2015, 03:37:55 PM
If diagnosed with sleep apnea. Regardless of rough ridin' cost this is the only thing i am willing to use. I am not lugging around a rough ridin' machine every time i go on vacation or some crap. I would rather die in my sleep.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.bostonmagazine.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F05%2Fairing-main.jpg&hash=a00b24788fc3d87f0705b01b1a1b4618d3059023)
WTF is that thing?
Post by: MakeItRain on October 14, 2015, 03:38:45 PM
dying in your sleep is always held up as the gold standard for best ways to die anyways.
Not if it's having a massive heart attack or choking to death.
Post by: sys on October 14, 2015, 03:42:53 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 14, 2015, 03:45:27 PM
Post by: deputy dawg on October 14, 2015, 04:10:54 PM
I'd still opt to try for the surgery.
I am amazed at the number of people in gE with sleep apnea. Percentage wise, out of consistent posters, it has to be 15%. Is that normal for the general population?
Gonna win 'em all!
It actually makes me believe there are a lot less great looking fresh smelling people in here.
:shakesfist:
Post by: CNS on October 14, 2015, 07:17:59 PM
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Post by: Ptolemy on October 19, 2015, 11:16:02 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 19, 2015, 11:43:42 PM
Sleep study results came back - average 14 breathing stoppages an hour. Going to see a sleep Dr. for recommendations to address. Are there drugs alone or is this all a smokescreen for the inevitable Vader Sleep Mask?
No drugs for sleep apnea, sorry.
Post by: slobber on October 20, 2015, 07:35:21 AM
Krocodil seems like it might open up some breathing passages.Sleep study results came back - average 14 breathing stoppages an hour. Going to see a sleep Dr. for recommendations to address. Are there drugs alone or is this all a smokescreen for the inevitable Vader Sleep Mask?
No drugs for sleep apnea, sorry.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on October 20, 2015, 09:08:38 AM
If diagnosed with sleep apnea. Regardless of rough ridin' cost this is the only thing i am willing to use. I am not lugging around a rough ridin' machine every time i go on vacation or some crap. I would rather die in my sleep.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.bostonmagazine.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F05%2Fairing-main.jpg&hash=a00b24788fc3d87f0705b01b1a1b4618d3059023)
holy hell those things are one time use? I'd seen them but never read the articles.
Post by: ShellShock on October 20, 2015, 01:18:30 PM
If diagnosed with sleep apnea. Regardless of rough ridin' cost this is the only thing i am willing to use. I am not lugging around a rough ridin' machine every time i go on vacation or some crap. I would rather die in my sleep.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.bostonmagazine.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F05%2Fairing-main.jpg&hash=a00b24788fc3d87f0705b01b1a1b4618d3059023)
holy hell those things are one time use? I'd seen them but never read the articles.
Not one time use and you probably haven't seen them since they're still in prototype phase and don't release until 2017...
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/airing-the-first-hoseless-maskless-micro-cpap#/ (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/airing-the-first-hoseless-maskless-micro-cpap#/)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on October 20, 2015, 02:13:00 PM
If diagnosed with sleep apnea. Regardless of rough ridin' cost this is the only thing i am willing to use. I am not lugging around a rough ridin' machine every time i go on vacation or some crap. I would rather die in my sleep.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.bostonmagazine.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F05%2Fairing-main.jpg&hash=a00b24788fc3d87f0705b01b1a1b4618d3059023)
holy hell those things are one time use? I'd seen them but never read the articles.
Not one time use and you probably haven't seen them since they're still in prototype phase and don't release until 2017...
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/airing-the-first-hoseless-maskless-micro-cpap#/ (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/airing-the-first-hoseless-maskless-micro-cpap#/)
from the link
Quote
Not so with Airing. Each Airing device is designed for one night’s use only and is recyclable.
And I'd seen the articles on them of course, not the physical device.
Post by: ShellShock on October 20, 2015, 04:33:29 PM
If diagnosed with sleep apnea. Regardless of rough ridin' cost this is the only thing i am willing to use. I am not lugging around a rough ridin' machine every time i go on vacation or some crap. I would rather die in my sleep.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.bostonmagazine.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F05%2Fairing-main.jpg&hash=a00b24788fc3d87f0705b01b1a1b4618d3059023)
holy hell those things are one time use? I'd seen them but never read the articles.
Not one time use and you probably haven't seen them since they're still in prototype phase and don't release until 2017...
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/airing-the-first-hoseless-maskless-micro-cpap#/ (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/airing-the-first-hoseless-maskless-micro-cpap#/)
from the linkQuoteNot so with Airing. Each Airing device is designed for one night’s use only and is recyclable.
And I'd seen the articles on them of course, not the physical device.
Weird...there's an article out there that stated that the nose pieces or whatnot were disposable but the actual apparatus could be recharged...let me see if I can find it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 19, 2016, 03:35:51 PM
Post by: sys on January 19, 2016, 04:59:08 PM
Post by: slobber on January 20, 2016, 05:13:46 AM
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Post by: ShellShock on February 05, 2016, 08:47:27 AM
Yo ShellSquawk how's this going for you bud?
Went back in again for another in-lab sleep study (after doing the in-house sleep study and one in-lab study) and they said that it's not actually sleep apnea now.
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 05, 2016, 09:14:09 AM
The real William Wallace was hung by the neck until almost dead, cut down, castrated, eviscerated (with his entrails being burned in front of him while he clung to life), then finally beheaded, drawn, and quartered.dying in your sleep is always held up as the gold standard for best ways to die anyways.
William Wallace disagrees!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wallace#Capture_and_execution (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wallace#Capture_and_execution)
Pretty sure he would have preferred going out mid-nap.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 05, 2016, 09:18:03 AM
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 05, 2016, 09:21:24 AM
Holy crap!Yeah, the British were real assholes back in the day.
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 05, 2016, 09:55:11 AM
The real William Wallace was hung by the neck until almost dead, cut down, castrated, eviscerated (with his entrails being burned in front of him while he clung to life), then finally beheaded, drawn, and quartered.dying in your sleep is always held up as the gold standard for best ways to die anyways.
William Wallace disagrees!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wallace#Capture_and_execution (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wallace#Capture_and_execution)
Pretty sure he would have preferred going out mid-nap.
Pride tho.
Post by: slobber on February 05, 2016, 10:13:38 AM
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Post by: MakeItRain on February 05, 2016, 02:26:20 PM
Yo ShellSquawk how's this going for you bud?
Went back in again for another in-lab sleep study (after doing the in-house sleep study and one in-lab study) and they said that it's not actually sleep apnea now.
Three sleep tests :sdeek: grats on the no sleep apnea diagnosis though
Post by: steve dave on February 05, 2016, 02:33:34 PM
Post by: ShellShock on February 05, 2016, 04:19:56 PM
Yo ShellSquawk how's this going for you bud?
Went back in again for another in-lab sleep study (after doing the in-house sleep study and one in-lab study) and they said that it's not actually sleep apnea now.
Three sleep tests :sdeek: grats on the no sleep apnea diagnosis though
Thanks! Yea, it sucked big time. The lady doing the sleep tests told me the next morning that she had a good time laughing at me sleep talking and my hands reaching for things and doing weird crap too. The ruled out all of the episodes from my take home study due to my brain/hands subconsciously messing with the sensors.
Post by: deputy dawg on February 05, 2016, 04:56:26 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on February 05, 2016, 07:58:31 PM
Post by: Tobias on February 05, 2016, 08:02:11 PM
Is the dobber "I have a friend that is starting a company to do X" an inside joke I don't get or does he run like a startup incubator out of his basement?
@slobber, here is your new avatar
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Post by: MakeItRain on February 05, 2016, 09:06:16 PM
I have a friend that is starting a company to produce an amazing invention used with a CPAP. You guys will all be buying his product within 2-3 years. He has the patents. He just sent me his business plan and asked me to review it. I may report back on how rich you are all going to make him.
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eff 2-3 years, what can you do for me in 3 days?
Post by: CNS on February 05, 2016, 09:31:36 PM
Post by: Ptolemy on February 05, 2016, 10:54:45 PM
I'm having trouble tolerating the treatment. I go to sleep fine but wake after 2-3 hours and either try and tolerate it for another 30-45 minutes after which I take it off and sleep great-ish or I get pissed off in my sleep and take it off and then sleep OK - not great but OK.
I did recently keep the mask on for almost 4 hours and felt absolutely amazing the next day. So I'm keeping with it. If I can feel amazing after only 4 hours of solid sleep, how Superman-ish will I be with 8 hours a night under my belt?!?!
Then again, what if I am SO awake and alert after good nights of sleep that I become the totally annoying ass I was back in the day when I naturally slept well.
That may be another story...
Post by: Tobias on February 05, 2016, 10:56:59 PM
Post by: sys on February 05, 2016, 11:01:02 PM
Post by: Tobias on February 05, 2016, 11:01:43 PM
Post by: Ptolemy on February 05, 2016, 11:12:01 PM
i don't want to wear a mask or hook myself to a machine. i can't help but feel like alcohol or narcotics can do the job just as well.
Funny you mention that because alcohol may have been the catalyst for all of this.
Post by: Ptolemy on February 05, 2016, 11:14:07 PM
that aside, do you consciously just wake up and go "this sucks" and rip the thing off?
I do, but when i'm awake (half asleep) I try to stick with it. When I do it in my sleep and not remember doing it, all bets are off. Wife says I throw it off with exhibited frustration and anger.
Post by: slobber on February 06, 2016, 06:22:21 AM
Is the dobber "I have a friend that is starting a company to do X" an inside joke I don't get or does he run like a startup incubator out of his basement?I am old. I became friends with a guy that started an LED light company. He is now CotB of a completely different pharma company. He has introduced me to some other people. Two of my bros have started/ in on ground floor of a couple of companies. I am snarky/sarcastic on a mbb, but I am not smart enough for inside jokes.
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Post by: slobber on February 06, 2016, 06:24:54 AM
based on business plan, maybe early in 2017! He had sleep apnea, which led him to his invention. Won't be sold directly through health care companies. Interesting business plan that I am only half way through.I have a friend that is starting a company to produce an amazing invention used with a CPAP. You guys will all be buying his product within 2-3 years. He has the patents. He just sent me his business plan and asked me to review it. I may report back on how rich you are all going to make him.
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eff 2-3 years, what can you do for me in 3 days?
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Post by: stunted on February 06, 2016, 08:44:02 AM
i went to a chiropractor recently and my neck is straight, not curved like it should be.
sleep on back.
sleep apnea or no?
i do plan on getting a proper sleep test within the next few weeks
Post by: GoodForAnother on February 06, 2016, 12:27:07 PM
Post by: CNS on February 06, 2016, 12:43:24 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 06, 2016, 10:58:50 PM
i don't want to wear a mask or hook myself to a machine. i can't help but feel like alcohol or narcotics can do the job just as well.
I recently saw a story on the mouthpiece and sleep professionals are really making a push on them, unfortunately for me it can only be used in cases of mild to moderate apnea.
Post by: IPA4Me on February 07, 2016, 05:53:36 AM
What signs did you guys have that made you go in. I mean, I don't think I have it, but I bet none of you guys did.People usually go because they are fatigued during the day. Usually they snore heavily too.
I'm seeing a lung specialist on Monday that happens to be a sleep specialist too. In the patient packet, I found the Epworth Sleepiness Scale questionnaire.
https://web.stanford.edu/~dement/epworth.html
Post by: 8manpick on February 07, 2016, 09:36:05 AM
Also Double Ups!Is the dobber "I have a friend that is starting a company to do X" an inside joke I don't get or does he run like a startup incubator out of his basement?I am old. I became friends with a guy that started an LED light company. He is now CotB of a completely different pharma company. He has introduced me to some other people. Two of my bros have started/ in on ground floor of a couple of companies. I am snarky/sarcastic on a mbb, but I am not smart enough for inside jokes.
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Post by: slobber on February 07, 2016, 10:00:19 AM
SHARE YOUR BED, NOT YOUR COVERS!Also Double Ups!Is the dobber "I have a friend that is starting a company to do X" an inside joke I don't get or does he run like a startup incubator out of his basement?I am old. I became friends with a guy that started an LED light company. He is now CotB of a completely different pharma company. He has introduced me to some other people. Two of my bros have started/ in on ground floor of a couple of companies. I am snarky/sarcastic on a mbb, but I am not smart enough for inside jokes.
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Post by: slobber on February 07, 2016, 10:02:11 AM
His real money maker was Terra Systems. Sold that and traveled the world 3 months. Then got certified to be a white water guide. What a life!SHARE YOUR BED, NOT YOUR COVERS!Also Double Ups!Is the dobber "I have a friend that is starting a company to do X" an inside joke I don't get or does he run like a startup incubator out of his basement?I am old. I became friends with a guy that started an LED light company. He is now CotB of a completely different pharma company. He has introduced me to some other people. Two of my bros have started/ in on ground floor of a couple of companies. I am snarky/sarcastic on a mbb, but I am not smart enough for inside jokes.
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Post by: slobber on June 16, 2016, 08:30:05 PM
Go look at "Stuart Heatherington" on LinkedIn. I think he wants some volunteers if you use a CPAP.based on business plan, maybe early in 2017! He had sleep apnea, which led him to his invention. Won't be sold directly through health care companies. Interesting business plan that I am only half way through.I have a friend that is starting a company to produce an amazing invention used with a CPAP. You guys will all be buying his product within 2-3 years. He has the patents. He just sent me his business plan and asked me to review it. I may report back on how rich you are all going to make him.
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eff 2-3 years, what can you do for me in 3 days?
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Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
Post by: renocat on June 16, 2016, 09:11:40 PM
Post by: sys on November 29, 2016, 12:36:58 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 29, 2016, 12:39:46 PM
Post by: sys on November 29, 2016, 12:41:31 PM
I want to see sys in his bane mask
i'm taking it back today and will never wear one again for however long i live.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2016, 05:49:48 PM
I did see an incredibly annoying commercial for this last night.
www.zyppah.com
Post by: star seed 7 on November 29, 2016, 05:50:46 PM
Post by: CNS on November 29, 2016, 06:52:12 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on November 29, 2016, 07:30:34 PM
They advertise on xm all the time, I hate themomg yes, seems like it is every espn radio break. The rough ridin' horrible east coast accent :barf:
Post by: sys on November 29, 2016, 09:45:58 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on November 29, 2016, 09:53:20 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 30, 2016, 09:29:53 AM
I did see an incredibly annoying commercial for this last night.
www.zyppah.com
:lol:
Ask Gooch for a review of that thing.