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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: _33 on October 03, 2015, 07:43:23 PM
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He is awful. 3-9 with an int. 4 rushes for 8 yards. I think we were all giving Hubener a bit of a pass because of the perceived lack of talent at WR but then a WR came in to play QB and didn't seem to have any trouble finding open WR's. Hubener is probably worst QB we've had since AE.
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He is awful. 3-9 with an int. 4 rushes for 8 yards. I think we were all giving Hubener a bit of a pass because of the perceived lack of talent at WR but then a WR came in to play QB and didn't seem to have any trouble finding open WR's. Hubener is probably worst QB we've had since AE.
He went on the game winning drive.
Then our ST kicked the ball out of bounds, our D gave up a 4th and 8 conversion and oSu continued to drive down the field for a chip shot FG.
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Also got the 2 pt play
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Also got the 2 pt play
Which was dropped.
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I would kill for Carson Coffman right now.
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He is awful. 3-9 with an int. 4 rushes for 8 yards. I think we were all giving Hubener a bit of a pass because of the perceived lack of talent at WR but then a WR came in to play QB and didn't seem to have any trouble finding open WR's. Hubener is probably worst QB we've had since AE.
He went on the game winning drive.
Then our ST kicked the ball out of bounds, our D gave up a 4th and 8 conversion and oSu continued to drive down the field for a chip shot FG.
That drive was essentially one play, it seems clear that he can't consistently move the ball without getting a bomb and he isn't dynamic enough in the QB run game to be a legitimate threat.
The take away from this game for me is how in the world is he the starting QB?
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Walkon WR > Walkon QB
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He is awful. 3-9 with an int. 4 rushes for 8 yards. I think we were all giving Hubener a bit of a pass because of the perceived lack of talent at WR but then a WR came in to play QB and didn't seem to have any trouble finding open WR's. Hubener is probably worst QB we've had since AE.
He went on the game winning drive.
Then our ST kicked the ball out of bounds, our D gave up a 4th and 8 conversion and oSu continued to drive down the field for a chip shot FG.
That drive was essentially one play, it seems clear that he can't consistently move the ball without getting a bomb and he isn't dynamic enough in the QB run game to be a legitimate threat.
The take away from this game for me is how in the world is he the starting QB?
It was really odd at the end of the first half when normally we'd sit on the ball, Snyder decides to go for points with Cook at QB. And Cook looked good doing it. He's way better at finding receivers and throwing it to short or intermediate routes than Bazooka.
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Cook's play today makes me wonder more about Delton and Banks and if they are awful or is Dimel #Samsing them too.
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He does't have enough raw talent to run a large enough portion of the playbook. He doesn't make the people around him better. BTW, our failures at recruiting O-Line tackles is one of the coaching staffs biggest issue.
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Cook's play today makes me wonder more about Delton and Banks and if they are awful or is Dimel #Samsing them too.
Yeah. It's all so weird. I think Dimel might have early onset alzheimers. Over the course of halftime he forgot everything thay got him a lead and apparently thought Chad May was our QB.
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He does't have enough raw talent to run a large enough portion of the playbook. He doesn't make the people around him better. BTW, our failures at recruiting O-Line tackles is one of the coaching staffs biggest issue.
Oline was just fine until Cook dislocated his shoulder after a 30 yard run and that was the best D line in the conference maybe the nation.
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Cook's play today makes me wonder more about Delton and Banks and if they are awful or is Dimel #Samsing them too.
Yeah. It's all so weird. I think Dimel might have early onset alzheimers. Over the course of halftime he forgot everything thay got him a lead and apparently thought Chad May was our QB.
Those six straight drop back passes to start the second half after two defensive stops absolutely lost us the game, no doubt in my mind.
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That was with regards to OSU having the best dline in the nation.
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That was with regards to OSU having the best dline in the nation.
That's not what I said and it wasn't my observation either, I don't know crap about evaluating lines like 99.999% of people watching college football. I also heard three of those guys are getting drafted.
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So did Cook dislocate his shoulder or separate it? Looked dislocated. Maybe a really bad sprain? :crossfingers:
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I would kill for Carson Coffman right now.
Coffman > Hubener....easily...
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If Cook is out for awhile, who the hell is the backup?
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He is the QB because this staff didn't recruit for crap, and ran off a kid because Dana Dimel didn't like his high stepping. When your options after Ertz, are:
The slowest converted receiver in history.
A Freshman
A JC Transfer who just got to campus.
Several other nobodies.
You haven't recruited for crap.
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He is the QB because this staff didn't recruit for crap, and ran off a kid because Dana Dimel didn't like his high stepping. When your options after Ertz, are:
The slowest converted receiver in history.
A Freshman
A JC Transfer who just got to campus.
Several other nobodies.
You haven't recruited for crap.
not being able to rely on good players recruited by ron prince has finally caught up to old bill.
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Like I've said before, any smart Kstate fan should be enraged by Walk on U.
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He is the QB because this staff didn't recruit for crap, and ran off a kid because Dana Dimel didn't like his high stepping. When your options after Ertz, are:
The slowest converted receiver in history.
A Freshman
A JC Transfer who just got to campus.
Several other nobodies.
You haven't recruited for crap.
JR and SR respective recruiting class our Garbage. Yes they have a couple of nice players but the depth is crap. Sophomore and freshmen classes seem to be better. Hard to tell with the freshmen. Senior class is really really ugly.
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He is the QB because this staff didn't recruit for crap, and ran off a kid because Dana Dimel didn't like his high stepping. When your options after Ertz, are:
The slowest converted receiver in history.
A Freshman
A JC Transfer who just got to campus.
Several other nobodies.
You haven't recruited for crap.
They recruited fine, next season we will have the best QB from Iowa in his year, the best QB from Kansas in his year, and the best QB from Missouri in his year who nearly was an elite 11 QB. They've made plenty of mistakes we can crap on, this isn't one.
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That's next year, why are we pointing to next year, at year 6 of Snyder II?
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He is the QB because this staff didn't recruit for crap, and ran off a kid because Dana Dimel didn't like his high stepping. When your options after Ertz, are:
The slowest converted receiver in history.
A Freshman
A JC Transfer who just got to campus.
Several other nobodies.
You haven't recruited for crap.
They recruited fine, next season we will have the best QB from Iowa in his year, the best QB from Kansas in his year, and the best QB from Missouri in his year who nearly was an elite 11 QB. They've made plenty of mistakes we can crap on, this isn't one.
Possibly... If they all return next year. Dimel will run one of them off.
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Still zero difference makers at the RB position. DITR wet dream at WR.
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That's next year, why are we pointing to next year, at year 6 of Snyder II?
and this year, and two years ago
He is the QB because this staff didn't recruit for crap, and ran off a kid because Dana Dimel didn't like his high stepping. When your options after Ertz, are:
The slowest converted receiver in history.
A Freshman
A JC Transfer who just got to campus.
Several other nobodies.
You haven't recruited for crap.
They recruited fine, next season we will have the best QB from Iowa in his year, the best QB from Kansas in his year, and the best QB from Missouri in his year who nearly was an elite 11 QB. They've made plenty of mistakes we can crap on, this isn't one.
Possibly... If they all return next year. Dimel will run one of them off.
Yeah, probably.
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Still zero difference makers at the RB position. DITR wet dream at WR.
Too early to tell with Silmon and Warmack is one of the most heralded recruits we've ever had. You got me on the wide outs although they don't seem to be as bad as some thought they would be.
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He is the QB because this staff didn't recruit for crap, and ran off a kid because Dana Dimel didn't like his high stepping.
You haven't recruited for crap.
The depth at WR should also prove this.
Braet and Coleman are our only consistent recruiters
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Womack isn't seeing the field, and Silmon shows no home run threat at all. But then again, we rarely get the second level blocked, or fool anybody with the ball in the RB's hands.
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Still zero difference makers at the RB position. DITR wet dream at WR.
Too early to tell with Silmon and Warmack is one of the most heralded recruits we've ever had. You got me on the wide outs although they don't seem to be as bad as some thought they would be.
the defense is full of shitty under talented hacks
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Hubener is the type of QB you love when he's on the other team. It's like finally we get to play against this big slow guy and also he throws a ton of incomplete passes. You know what I'm saying? Like when you say "whew it's a good thing this other team's QB sucks because that guy was wide open." Well that will be said about 5,000 times by fans of other teams this year when playing KSU.
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Still zero difference makers at the RB position. DITR wet dream at WR.
Too early to tell with Silmon and Warmack is one of the most heralded recruits we've ever had. You got me on the wide outs although they don't seem to be as bad as some thought they would be.
the defense is full of shitty under talented hacks
Ummm okay
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He is awful. 3-9 with an int. 4 rushes for 8 yards. I think we were all giving Hubener a bit of a pass because of the perceived lack of talent at WR but then a WR came in to play QB and didn't seem to have any trouble finding open WR's. Hubener is probably worst QB we've had since AE.
He went on the game winning drive.
Then our ST kicked the ball out of bounds, our D gave up a 4th and 8 conversion and oSu continued to drive down the field for a chip shot FG.
That drive was essentially one play, it seems clear that he can't consistently move the ball without getting a bomb and he isn't dynamic enough in the QB run game to be a legitimate threat.
The take away from this game for me is how in the world is he the starting QB?
I don't disagree with your assessment of Bazooka Joe. He is what he is.
But Joe was likely out there concussed and still got us the lead. This is not on the offense, the offense all things considered was stellar. This loss is on ST and defense. The defense made two huge plays, the ST made zero and several huge negatives.
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He is awful. 3-9 with an int. 4 rushes for 8 yards. I think we were all giving Hubener a bit of a pass because of the perceived lack of talent at WR but then a WR came in to play QB and didn't seem to have any trouble finding open WR's. Hubener is probably worst QB we've had since AE.
He went on the game winning drive.
Then our ST kicked the ball out of bounds, our D gave up a 4th and 8 conversion and oSu continued to drive down the field for a chip shot FG.
That drive was essentially one play, it seems clear that he can't consistently move the ball without getting a bomb and he isn't dynamic enough in the QB run game to be a legitimate threat.
The take away from this game for me is how in the world is he the starting QB?
I don't disagree with your assessment of Bazooka Joe. He is what he is.
But Joe was likely out there concussed and still got us the lead. This is not on the offense, the offense all things considered was stellar. This loss is on ST and defense. The defense made two huge plays, the ST made zero and several huge negatives.
If the kick out of bounds or the missed FG were huge negatives the blocked PAT was also huge. Also Walsh had a great punt in that second half stretch where the offense gave up one score in what 4 possessions and the offense was 3 and outing their way through the half.
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How was he allowed back in the game after literally being knocked unconscious? Was that a crime?
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How was he allowed back in the game after literally being knocked unconscious? Was that a crime?
It's unbelievable. A reporter should ask Bill about this.
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How was he allowed back in the game after literally being knocked unconscious? Was that a crime?
It's unbelievable. A reporter should ask Bill about this.
I don't think being knocked out means you also have a concussion :dunno:
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How was he allowed back in the game after literally being knocked unconscious? Was that a crime?
It's unbelievable. A reporter should ask Bill about this.
He won't remember.
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How was he allowed back in the game after literally being knocked unconscious? Was that a crime?
It's unbelievable. A reporter should ask Bill about this.
I don't think being knocked out means you also have a concussion :dunno:
It doesn't necessarily, but you should have to be cleared by a doctor before returning to play. Without being privy to what went on behind the scenes I have no idea if that occurred or not in order to make a judgement on this situation.
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How was he allowed back in the game after literally being knocked unconscious? Was that a crime?
It's unbelievable. A reporter should ask Bill about this.
I don't think being knocked out means you also have a concussion :dunno:
It doesn't necessarily, but you should have to be cleared by a doctor before returning to play. Without being privy to what went on behind the scenes I have no idea if that occurred or not in order to make a judgement on this situation.
Snyder said he cleared the concussion protocol during his postgame press conference.
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How was he allowed back in the game after literally being knocked unconscious? Was that a crime?
It's unbelievable. A reporter should ask Bill about this.
I don't think being knocked out means you also have a concussion :dunno:
It doesn't necessarily, but you should have to be cleared by a doctor before returning to play. Without being privy to what went on behind the scenes I have no idea if that occurred or not in order to make a judgement on this situation.
Snyder said he cleared the concussion protocol during his postgame press conference.
Snyder doesn't tell the truth, like, a lot.
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While I agree that Snyder tells a lot of white lies, I want to believe that he wouldn't put a guy back in if he was really concussed.
On TV it looked like the trainers etc. were putting BZKJ through the process
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FACT: One can be knocked out WITHOUT being concussed.
FACT: One can be concussed without being knocked out.
Concussions are serious business and I have no doubt our medical staff did everything right to check him before clearing him short of an actual CAT scan
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i love how the doctors named the cat scan after the cats
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I listened to the radio and as soon as Cook was hurt someone said Snyder conformed Joe was good to play as the first half ended.
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FACT: One can be knocked out WITHOUT being concussed.
Curious where are you getting that. I'd understand it more if your argument was being unconscious speaks nothing of the severity, which is where the medical staff did their job properly in diagnosis. Thought the definition of a concussion was loss of normal brain function due to head trauma.
https://nfhslearn.com/courses/38000
:buh-bye:
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Will Hubes be eligible for a medical redshirt if it's a concussion rather than just a knockout?
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His torso is too long, we dont have one that fits.
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He is the QB because this staff didn't recruit for crap, and ran off a kid because Dana Dimel didn't like his high stepping.
You haven't recruited for crap.
The depth at WR should also prove this.
Braet and Coleman are our only consistent recruiters
Hmmmmmm I wonder if there is any correlation to them not being SR citizens like the rest of this staff?
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He shouldn't have played and I have zero faith in our medical staff. They'll do whatever Bill wants.
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He played because Cook got hurt, not because of any passing or failing of a protocol.
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You also can't diagnose with out a brain scan, the protocol goes into place if you are symptomatic
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I don't think he was knocked out.
Gonna win 'em all!
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I don't think he was knocked out.
Gonna win 'em all!
Not sure if gE'ing or nah... But he was mos def KTFO.
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Cook's play today makes me wonder more about Delton and Banks and if they are awful or is Dimel #Samsing them too.
Dimel #samsing for the all time passer in K-State history was genius. Pretty smart guy imo.
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Cook's play today makes me wonder more about Delton and Banks and if they are awful or is Dimel #Samsing them tyoo.
Dimel #samsing for the all time passer in K-State history was genius. Pretty smart guy imo.
#Samsung, conjugation wacs
This board is still obsessed with a QB who split time at an fcs school last year. :love:
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Cook's play today makes me wonder more about Delton and Banks and if they are awful or is Dimel #Samsing them tyoo.
Dimel #samsing for the all time passer in K-State history was genius. Pretty smart guy imo.
#Samsung, conjugation wacs
This board is still obsessed with a QB who split time at an fcs school last year. :love:
This conversation has nothing to do with Jake Waters, idiot.
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Cook's play today makes me wonder more about Delton and Banks and if they are awful or is Dimel #Samsing them tyoo.
Dimel #samsing for the all time passer in K-State history was genius. Pretty smart guy imo.
#Samsung, conjugation wacs
This board is still obsessed with a QB who split time at an fcs school last year. :love:
This conversation has nothing to do with Jake Waters, idiot.
Why respond to him? He brings it up, because he knows he will get a reaction.
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#powernap
Gonna win 'em all!
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I don't think he was knocked out.
Gonna win 'em all!
Not sure if gE'ing or nah... But he was mos def KTFO.
He had full on Frankenstein arms. He got switched off.
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Wacky thinks he is so wise.
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#TeamiPhone
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Wacky thinks he is so wise.
I know it, bud. I know it!