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Title: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2015, 12:47:26 PM
Mine are anti-vax and climate change denial. When 100% of the smartest people in the world agree with one side of an issue and then you take the other side I don't trust you to make any important decisions that affect me. What are your positions?
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 18, 2015, 12:51:27 PM
I won't vote for Scott Walker because he won't say if he believes in evolution.
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: Institutional Control on September 18, 2015, 12:54:44 PM
I would never vote for someone who can't catch a football.
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 18, 2015, 12:58:36 PM
I won't vote for a church leader (reverend, preacher, etc.).
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 18, 2015, 01:01:11 PM
I won't vote for anyone who wants to waste money building a wall between the US and Mexico.
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: CNS on September 18, 2015, 01:16:43 PM
Religion in govt and schools, deniers of science, war here/there/everywhere, etc

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Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: Yard Dog on September 18, 2015, 01:28:29 PM
I wont vote for someone who supports the dismemberment and murder of unborn babies.
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Post by: puniraptor on September 18, 2015, 01:34:47 PM
Obvious lack of critical thinking ability.
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Post by: Yard Dog on September 18, 2015, 01:40:05 PM
Candidates who (verbally) attack private citizens.
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 18, 2015, 01:49:30 PM
I don't want to vote for anyone who wants to stomp on my or anyone else's liberty...which makes it hard because can't vote for republicans (cause abortion, marriage), can't vote for dems (guns).

Also, I will never vote for a racist, misogynist with an obvious hair piece.
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 18, 2015, 01:50:39 PM
Mine are anti-vax and climate change denial. When 100% of the smartest people in the world agree with one side of an issue and then you take the other side I don't trust you to make any important decisions that affect me. What are your positions?

If you really believe that "100% of the smartest people in the word" believe that manmade carbon emissions are causing significant "climate change" and "warming," you're a fool.

As for my litmus test, here are my disqualifications:
1. Abortion: People who are broadly pro-choice (not just minor exceptions for rape, incest, and "life of the mother" - I'm talking about the people who are generally Ok with slaughtering babies at pretty much any time before birth for any reason, which is evil)
2. Climate: Global warming "truthers" (such as SD and 42) who refuse to acknowledge the serious debate over mankind's role in "climate change."
3. Immigration: Anyone who advocates for open borders or broad amnesty (I will at least consider, but not favor, a candidate that would supposedly allow amnesty on strict conditions)
4. Fiscal Policy: Anyone who doesn't care about the national debt, or believes that we can meaningfully reduce our deficits with tax increases.
5. Foreign Policy: Anyone who thinks we can actually trust countries like Iran to honor agreements, or is naive enough to believe that we can actually monitor Iran's compliance under the current framework.
6. Healthcare: Anyone who advocates for single payer or heavier reliance on insurance and restricting consumer choice (like Obamacare).
7. Energy: Anyone who wants to increase subsidies for wildly impracticle and ineffecient "green energy" like wind and solar (I'll allow sucking up to Iowa corn growers because, otherwise, that would disqualify pretty much all the candidates).
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: 0.42 on September 18, 2015, 02:14:23 PM
Evolution and climate change deniers, anyone who wants to cut scientific research funding (same people), anti-vaxxers, anti-birth control & pro-abstinence education people, anyone who wants to go back to people not having health insurance, people who don't believe in separation of church and state, people who blindly defend the NSA and security state

Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2015, 02:19:07 PM
I would also probably say anyone who bases any of their political positions on a religion. Not practicing religion, but basing their positions on it like, "the flying spaghetti monster says people shouldn't use birth control so I'm anti birth control" or something like that.
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 18, 2015, 02:21:27 PM
I would also probably say anyone who bases any of their political positions on a religion. Not practicing religion, but basing their positions on it like, "the flying spaghetti monster says people shouldn't use birth control so I'm anti birth control" or something like that.

What if it's a secular religion, like the Church of Global Warming That Cannot Be Questioned?
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 18, 2015, 02:23:00 PM
Vax for sure. 

When Warmist Propagandist Scientists and their lawyers are actually trying to get the World Court to make climate "denial" illegal . . . it's just a very scary deal.   I am just stunned that anyone of you, who are supposedly educated feel no need to question what is clearly an agenda of control.   It's amazing that so many of you side with censorship and a warmist propagandist community that now proactively seek to destroy and marginalize anyone who dare question their proclamations and findings.    Sad




 
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 18, 2015, 02:23:28 PM
I would also probably say anyone who bases any of their political positions on a religion. Not practicing religion, but basing their positions on it like, "the flying spaghetti monster says people shouldn't use birth control so I'm anti birth control" or something like that.

What if it's a secular religion, like the Church of Global Warming That Cannot Be Questioned?

So it's like some sort of religion based on scientific observations and theory?
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: 0.42 on September 18, 2015, 02:28:16 PM
but how will climate change affect KSU's Foundation numbers tho
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Post by: gatoveintisiet on September 18, 2015, 02:28:34 PM
I would also probably say anyone who bases any of their political positions on a religion. Not practicing religion, but basing their positions on it like, "the flying spaghetti monster says people shouldn't use birth control so I'm anti birth control" or something like that.

What if it's a secular religion, like the Church of Global Warming That Cannot Be Questioned?

 :lol:
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: sys on September 18, 2015, 02:29:01 PM
it's all relative to who else is running - i'm not sure there's any one thing that would render someone unvotable.  but it is very hard to vote for people that espouse views that are clearly and obviously at odds with reality, regardless of other considerations.
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 18, 2015, 02:30:55 PM
I would also probably say anyone who bases any of their political positions on a religion. Not practicing religion, but basing their positions on it like, "the flying spaghetti monster says people shouldn't use birth control so I'm anti birth control" or something like that.

What if it's a secular religion, like the Church of Global Warming That Cannot Be Questioned?

So it's like some sort of religion based on scientific observations and theory?

Well that and faithful devotion, any evidence to the contrary not withstanding. "Science" requires critical inquiry and challenging assumptions - not ignoring/slandering evidence to the contrary.
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 18, 2015, 02:31:45 PM
I would also probably say anyone who bases any of their political positions on a religion. Not practicing religion, but basing their positions on it like, "the flying spaghetti monster says people shouldn't use birth control so I'm anti birth control" or something like that.

What if it's a secular religion, like the Church of Global Warming That Cannot Be Questioned?

So it's like some sort of religion based on scientific observations and theory?

Well that and faithful devotion, any evidence to the contrary not withstanding. "Science" requires critical inquiry and challenging assumptions - not ignoring/slandering evidence to the contrary.

What evidence to the contrary?
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2015, 02:39:22 PM
hey low/mediums, stay on topic please. tia.
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 18, 2015, 02:39:57 PM
I won't vote for sharia law lite
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 18, 2015, 02:40:04 PM
We have a thread for this, but the problem that the Warmist Propagandist have is that all roads lead to AGW.   Oh sure, they'll give lip service to the other facts, but at the end of the day every perceived climate ill on this planet is blamed on AGW.   There's ample evidence, actually beyond ample evidence to indicate our planet has had radical climate upheaval throughout the course of its existence.   But, that doesn't fit the narrative and certainly doesn't keep the flow of grant money going nor does it keep entire sections of our government relevant and funded.

Oh, like I've said before, for those that believe that Big Energy is going to get their due, realize that Big Energy is not run by dummies and they'll get there's coming and going, fossil fuels or no fossil fuels.    In fact, it could be argued they'll make even more money on the flip side.   
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: star seed 7 on September 18, 2015, 02:42:38 PM
 :D
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: CNS on September 18, 2015, 02:43:26 PM
Broad support of the NSA stuff inside our boarders.  Spying on everyone because terrorism, is bullshit.
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 18, 2015, 02:45:13 PM
Broad support of the NSA stuff inside our boarders.  Spying on everyone because terrorism, is bullshit.

I wouldn't vote for people who support this, except that every candidate does.
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2015, 02:46:12 PM
Broad support of the NSA stuff inside our boarders.  Spying on everyone because terrorism, is bullshit.

I wouldn't vote for people who support this, except that every candidate does.

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Post by: 0.42 on September 18, 2015, 02:46:53 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 18, 2015, 02:47:15 PM
Broad support of the NSA stuff inside our boarders.  Spying on everyone because terrorism, is bullshit.

I wouldn't vote for people who support this, except that every candidate does.

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I'm a registered R, though. If the bern gets through the primary, I'll feel it.
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: star seed 7 on September 18, 2015, 02:47:32 PM
 :love:
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Post by: Yard Dog on September 18, 2015, 02:50:44 PM
I wouldn't vote for anyone who uses workout slogans as their campaign slogan:



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Post by: CNS on September 18, 2015, 02:51:20 PM
Mass deportation


Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: Yard Dog on September 18, 2015, 03:01:36 PM
I might be overthinking it, but "feel the bern" definitely has some "Bill Clinton's intern interaction" vibes coming off of it. Like Sanders walks in and sees an attractive intern reading over some notes. . ."Hey there hun, I just took a few cialis, want to feel the Bern?"
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 18, 2015, 03:05:22 PM
I wouldn't vote for anyone that posts like yard dog
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Post by: 0.42 on September 18, 2015, 03:06:07 PM
I wouldn't vote for anyone that posts like yard dog

or shellsquawk
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Post by: chuckjames on September 18, 2015, 05:34:15 PM
cutting cap gains tax. really supply side economics in general is a no go for me.
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: wetwillie on September 18, 2015, 07:52:20 PM
No single issue is important enough to me to eliminate someone from contention.
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2015, 08:52:45 PM
No single issue is important enough to me to eliminate someone from contention.

no single issue I eliminate people for has any importance to me. they are just 100% accurate qualifiers for me to even consider their other positions.
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: slobber on September 19, 2015, 08:05:49 AM

I don't want to vote for anyone who wants to stomp on my or anyone else's liberty...which makes it hard because can't vote for republicans (cause abortion, marriage), can't vote for dems (guns).

Also, I will never vote for a racist, misogynist with an obvious hair piece.
Do they have to be both racist and misogynist? Or is this an either or situation? What about the hair piece? Same question.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 19, 2015, 07:56:49 PM

I don't want to vote for anyone who wants to stomp on my or anyone else's liberty...which makes it hard because can't vote for republicans (cause abortion, marriage), can't vote for dems (guns).

Also, I will never vote for a racist, misogynist with an obvious hair piece.
Do they have to be both racist and misogynist? Or is this an either or situation? What about the hair piece? Same question.


Gonna win 'em all!

They have to meet all 3 criteria for me to just blanketly say I will not vote for them. If they only met 2 then see the previous statement about whether or not they want to stomp on liberty.
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 20, 2015, 07:06:41 AM

I don't want to vote for anyone who wants to stomp on my or anyone else's liberty...which makes it hard because can't vote for republicans (cause abortion, marriage), can't vote for dems (guns).

Also, I will never vote for a racist, misogynist with an obvious hair piece.
Do they have to be both racist and misogynist? Or is this an either or situation? What about the hair piece? Same question.


Gonna win 'em all!

They have to meet all 3 criteria for me to just blanketly say I will not vote for them. If they only met 2 then see the previous statement about whether or not they want to stomp on liberty.

I'm confused about this "liberty" stance on abortion. Does a woman have the liberty to abort a child at 38 weeks simply because it's still in the womb? How about maybe within up to two weeks after birth? I mean, we don't have the liberty to just murder people, which I assume you agree with.

You would agree we are a country of laws right? Laws passes by the people based on certain shared moral values and what we deem important to functioning as a civilized society?

Finally, who would you say are the most misogynist presidents in the last half century?
Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2015, 07:58:03 PM
Ben Carson is unvoteforable.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/ben-carson-big-bang-a-fairy-tale-theory-of-evolution-encoura?utm_term=.emJVAGG0v0#.hoD7N11wnw
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Post by: SdK on September 28, 2015, 08:02:22 PM
Does he believe space ends?
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Post by: CNS on September 28, 2015, 08:14:30 PM
It ends in heaven and hell, obvsly.

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Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2015, 08:31:10 PM
It ends in heaven and hell, obvsly.

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You know its bad when fellow brain surgeons are taking shots at you.
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 28, 2015, 08:45:11 PM
People who don't think all humans are precious.
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Post by: michigancat on September 28, 2015, 09:13:41 PM
Did he really say "high falutin scientists?"

:love:
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2015, 09:23:37 PM
Really under utilized word
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Post by: CNS on September 28, 2015, 09:45:28 PM
The idea of an actual brain surgeon calling a scientist (any scientist) "high faultin" is amazingly entertaining.

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Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 28, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
whenever todd akin used the term "legitimate rape" that made him unvoteable
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Post by: CNS on September 29, 2015, 07:55:57 AM
Using a shitty nonsensical nickname that has zero to do with your actual name.

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Title: Re: What Political Positions Make A Candidate Unvoteforable For You?
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 29, 2015, 08:44:53 AM
well, most of them, actually.
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 29, 2015, 08:45:17 AM
Using a shitty nonsensical nickname that has zero to do with your actual name.

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Maybe that's what kept Teddy Kennedy out of the whitehouse rather than the murder thing.  :surprised:
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 29, 2015, 09:49:06 AM
Using a shitty nonsensical nickname that has zero to do with your actual name.

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Maybe that's what kept Teddy Kennedy out of the whitehouse rather than the murder thing.  :surprised:

Are you talking about the time Ted Kennedy killed a staffer he was having an affair with (while his wife was preganant) when he drunkenly drove his car off a bridge and then left her in the car to drown?
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Post by: mocat on September 29, 2015, 10:41:48 AM
yes i think it was pretty clear that is what he was talking about ksuw
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Post by: CNS on September 29, 2015, 10:44:50 AM
I think KSU_W is mistakenly thinking of Woody Kennedy.

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