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Title: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: bones129 on July 01, 2015, 12:43:13 AM
Sad. Another step back for Dalonte.

http://touch.baltimoresun.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-83894458/
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: Paul Moscow on July 01, 2015, 01:35:12 AM
Love this subheader

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Dalonte Hill was once the highest-paid assistant coach in the country at Kansas State. He's going to jail.

Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: michigancat on July 01, 2015, 07:40:45 AM
Sad
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 01, 2015, 08:00:47 AM
damn.
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: SleepFighter on July 01, 2015, 08:43:08 AM
Should probably DM D.
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2015, 09:20:04 AM
I miss him walking around the 'ville with the classy cats every night.  :frown:
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: Winters on July 01, 2015, 11:42:04 AM
 :frown:
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: sys on July 01, 2015, 12:51:28 PM
drunk driving laws are so stupid. 
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: renocat on July 01, 2015, 02:57:48 PM
drunk driving laws are so stupid.
Until a good friend is killed by one.  He was a good coach.  I do hope he sobers up and can start helping young men again.
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: ednksu on July 01, 2015, 03:44:22 PM
drunk driving laws are so stupid.
Until a good friend is killed by one.  He was a good coach.  I do hope he sobers up and can start helping young men again.
yeah I agree with Reno here ( :Wha:).  This isn't a buzzed driving one off incident.  The guy has an issue and isn't dealing with it.
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 01, 2015, 03:46:07 PM
sys technically didn't say the laws were too strict...
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: ednksu on July 01, 2015, 03:55:10 PM
didn't imply that either.  these laws aren't stupid IMO, especially when dealing with recidivist who make society less safe.
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: sys on July 01, 2015, 04:02:23 PM
sys technically didn't say the laws were too strict...

well, that's what i meant.  they're ridiculous.  "driving drunk" treats a continuous variable (degree impaired) as a binary condition and punishes many one-time, scarcely impaired violators by effectively making them unemployable - aside from other penalties.

other comparable impairments (tired, texting, eating, reading, watching video, etc, etc, etc) are either not prohibited, prohibitions are not enforced or penalties are orders of magnitude lesser.


society is not served by rendering otherwise productive people unemployable.  nor is it just.
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: sys on July 01, 2015, 04:05:25 PM
obviously, hill is not an example of what i'm discussing.  while the laws he's violated may be ridiculous (no idea how impaired he has been), his inability to make simple decisions to keep himself eligible to be very well paid to perform an enviable job is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: michigancat on July 01, 2015, 04:16:54 PM
sys technically didn't say the laws were too strict...

well, that's what i meant.  they're ridiculous.  "driving drunk" treats a continuous variable (degree impaired) as a binary condition and punishes many one-time, scarcely impaired violators by effectively making them unemployable - aside from other penalties.

other comparable impairments (tired, texting, eating, reading, watching video, etc, etc, etc) are either not prohibited, prohibitions are not enforced or penalties are orders of magnitude lesser.


society is not served by rendering otherwise productive people unemployable.  nor is it just.

I think our laws against texting, talking on the phone (with or without hands), sleeping, eating, etc. are more wrong than drunk driving laws.
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: CNS on July 01, 2015, 04:28:00 PM
Are there any laws against eating while driving?  I mean, there should be, if they are picking on other things like texting.  I am safer texting than the lady next to me is with a bigmac in one hand, a diet coke in the other, and steadying the wheel with her knees.  Especially when she chases that fry she drops.

Also, the biggest thing that is mumped up that ppl do while driving is doing so with.dogs in their lap. 

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Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: Mr Bread on July 01, 2015, 05:14:01 PM
sys technically didn't say the laws were too strict...

well, that's what i meant.  they're ridiculous.  "driving drunk" treats a continuous variable (degree impaired) as a binary condition and punishes many one-time, scarcely impaired violators by effectively making them unemployable - aside from other penalties.

other comparable impairments (tired, texting, eating, reading, watching video, etc, etc, etc) are either not prohibited, prohibitions are not enforced or penalties are orders of magnitude lesser.


society is not served by rendering otherwise productive people unemployable.  nor is it just.

you have a very poor grasp on what happens to first time dui offenders.  and not all laws treat a continuous variable (degree impaired) as a binary condition. 

i agree though.  people should be able to drink and drive all they want.  i mean they might lose their jobs by choices they voluntarily made and that's not just.  i mean people need jobs and they can't be responsible for the crap they get up to. 

and hey if somebody doesn't want to have sex with you, but you'd really like to, go ahead and eff their brains out if you can pull it off.  somebody got something that you'd like to have?  can you take it from them?  rough ridin' do it then.  criminal laws are for the unsophisticated and the pedestrian when you take into consideration that as a result of violations of such artificial constructs people face concrete, real-world consequences like the loss of gainful employment.

it's like society has lost its collective mind when these types of tradeoffs are routinely being made.  my thought balloon for your ability to provide for your family.  insanity sys, insanity. 
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: slobber on July 01, 2015, 05:33:59 PM
DWI- Driving While Impaired. It can be for any reason. I am guessing one of the lawyers can find an example of somebody being sued fro DWI for use of cell-phone (in the absence of cell phone restricting laws).
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 01, 2015, 06:17:32 PM
DWI- Driving While Impaired. It can be for any reason. I am guessing one of the lawyers can find an example of somebody being sued fro DWI for use of cell-phone (in the absence of cell phone restricting laws).

I've only heard DWI referred to as driving while intoxicated.
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 02, 2015, 12:41:32 AM
MCMW. Would take back.
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: wetwillie on July 02, 2015, 12:44:46 AM
Expired license is unforgiveable IMO
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: ksuwizard on July 02, 2015, 11:57:14 AM
Boggles me how highly paid coaches (and players) get DUIs all the time when they can afford (and teams most of the time provide) drivers at their disposal.
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: Spracne on July 02, 2015, 01:18:07 PM
Isn't it legal to drive while intoxicated on private property?
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 02, 2015, 01:49:17 PM
Isn't it legal to drive while intoxicated on private property?

I'm pretty sure it's not. It's hard to imagine a circumstance where you would get pulled over on your own property, though.
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: dmartin on July 02, 2015, 02:00:09 PM
Isn't it legal to drive while intoxicated on private property?

At one time it was not, but I'm not sure now.  Or at least it was ok in Texas and Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: Pete on July 04, 2015, 11:13:23 PM

Boggles me how highly paid coaches (and players) get DUIs all the time when they can afford (and teams most of the time provide) drivers at their disposal.

Sometimes, and I know not everyone knows this about booze, but sometimes when people are rough ridin' hammered they are rough ridin' idiots.  Canadian guy I know was just the worst about that. 
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: star seed 7 on July 05, 2015, 01:00:15 PM
i think we know the same canadian guy  :frown:
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: AbeFroman on July 07, 2015, 09:48:02 AM
I'm blaming Currie. He runs off Frank, Delonte is forced to go work for Turd, he can't cope, drinking increases exponentially, more DUIs, jail

If Currie keeps the gang together worst case scenario Delonte spends a month in Atchison with DSF.
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: Trim on July 07, 2015, 09:51:29 AM
worst case scenario Delonte spends a month in Atchison with DSF.

'te came out ahead then.
Title: Re: Our friend Dalonte
Post by: lopakman on July 08, 2015, 02:42:42 PM
worst case scenario Delonte spends a month in Atchison with DSF.

'te came out ahead then.

At least he won't tweet about it.