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Post by: steve dave on July 08, 2015, 08:25:16 AM
Did he ever actually play basketball for the cats? Can't seem to place him
he was crazy looking. wtf is the matter with you?
Post by: 8manpick on July 08, 2015, 08:26:49 AM
Post by: TownieCat on July 08, 2015, 08:35:47 AM
Is he the one who was mad a gE poster didn't recognize him at Bullchicks? That is probably his most memorable moment at KSU(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstream1.gifsoup.com%2Fview5%2F20141115%2F5137747%2Fawesome-block-o.gif&hash=92fce6e5af17bf4f2ed87fafb73ef184532cbed2)
I'll never forget him almost killing that poor So Utah kid.
Post by: kslim on July 08, 2015, 08:55:05 AM
yes, anytime a ksu wild wild cat does something that goes viral i will always appreciate thatIs he the one who was mad a gE poster didn't recognize him at Bullchicks? That is probably his most memorable moment at KSU(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstream1.gifsoup.com%2Fview5%2F20141115%2F5137747%2Fawesome-block-o.gif&hash=92fce6e5af17bf4f2ed87fafb73ef184532cbed2)
I'll never forget him almost killing that poor So Utah kid.
Post by: ednksu on July 08, 2015, 12:40:46 PM
Post by: Winters on July 08, 2015, 01:07:46 PM
but I was recently told we were #neverbroken?Bolden is sporting a pink cast. You try telling him things are #neverbroken.
Post by: CNS on July 08, 2015, 02:57:00 PM
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Post by: Winters on July 08, 2015, 04:52:32 PM
If you guys are excited aboutfypBoldenanything, then it will be a long year for you….
Post by: The Whale on July 09, 2015, 01:27:30 PM
brandon bolden is probably done playing basketball for the cats according to some guy
So we're 3 roster spots down now?
Open Scholarship
Open Scholarship that went to Rohelder
Bolden
Post by: CNS on July 09, 2015, 01:39:10 PM
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Post by: Katpappy on July 09, 2015, 03:15:10 PM
You guys remember when some ppl were all super scared that if Frank stayed that we would have lost two or three kids? :lol:Kids that won us a Big XII Championship! :Woohoo:
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on July 14, 2015, 11:55:35 AM
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To try and fill in the void of summer, here is some basketball news from the boys: 1. xWhomper came to basketball with a broken bone in his foot and has been in a boot since he arrived. 2. D.J. is still not allowed to scrimmage or any chance for contact. 3. Bolden is still in cast and doubtful for the year. He broke the navicular bone in wrist which doesn't get much blood supply for healing and causes loss of rotation in wrist. 4. Maurice has arrived and is 6'8" tall but with his hair is probably 6'11.! 5. Dante is a legit 7'. Stokes is really, really good. 8. Could tell you more about the players but don't want to break confidentiality. But the overall prognosis beside the injury report is very, very good!!!!!
Post by: sys on July 14, 2015, 12:14:37 PM
Post by: The Whale on July 14, 2015, 01:03:41 PM
brandon bolden is probably done playing basketball for the cats according to some guy
So we're 3 roster spots down now?
Open Scholarship
Open Scholarship that went to Vulture
Bolden
Make that 4 roster spots, I guess:
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2. D.J. is still not allowed to scrimmage or any chance for contact
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on July 14, 2015, 01:08:26 PM
brandon bolden is probably done playing basketball for the cats according to some guy
So we're 3 roster spots down now?
Open Scholarship
Open Scholarship that went to Vulture
Bolden
Make that 4 roster spots, I guess:Quote2. D.J. is still not allowed to scrimmage or any chance for contact
Dante is scary with a broken bone in his foot. I guess they are being cautious with DJamer.
Post by: CNS on July 14, 2015, 01:30:52 PM
QuoteTo try and fill in the void of summer, here is some basketball news from the boys: 1. xWhomper came to basketball with a broken bone in his foot and has been in a boot since he arrived. 2. D.J. is still not allowed to scrimmage or any chance for contact. 3. Bolden is still in cast and doubtful for the year. He broke the navicular bone in wrist which doesn't get much blood supply for healing and causes loss of rotation in wrist. 4. Maurice has arrived and is 6'8" tall but with his hair is probably 6'11.! 5. Dante is a legit 7'. Stokes is really, really good. 8. Could tell you more about the players but don't want to break confidentiality. But the overall prognosis beside the injury report is very, very good!!!!!
Very Very good other than the first half of the info being about three of our scholarship athletes not being able to play basketball.
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Post by: Trim on July 14, 2015, 02:02:20 PM
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Post by: BrokenSky1113 on July 14, 2015, 04:43:42 PM
QuoteTo try and fill in the void of summer, here is some basketball news from the boys: 1. xWhomper came to basketball with a broken bone in his foot and has been in a boot since he arrived. 2. D.J. is still not allowed to scrimmage or any chance for contact. 3. Bolden is still in cast and doubtful for the year. He broke the navicular bone in wrist which doesn't get much blood supply for healing and causes loss of rotation in wrist. 4. Maurice has arrived and is 6'8" tall but with his hair is probably 6'11.! 5. Dante is a legit 7'. Stokes is really, really good. 8. Could tell you more about the players but don't want to break confidentiality. But the overall prognosis beside the injury report is very, very good!!!!!
Very Very good other than the first half of the info being about three of our scholarship athletes not being able to play basketball.
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The attitude makes no sense to me. List 6 negative things and one positive (Stokes being good) without even going so far as to enumerate what the hell he is good at and then say overall things are very very good? How could one draw that conclusion? The news about Dante being hurt with a foot injury is devastating. Big men and foot injuries are never ever ever ever ever a good thing. 3 of our 4 potential rim protectors are question marks for the season.
Post by: renocat on July 14, 2015, 05:12:13 PM
7' xWhomper is one guy and not two, correct?1 big = to 3 midgets. Happy Horndog references Renodog, rest his bones, gleeful look when hunching something, like our old tomcat.
Post by: sys on July 14, 2015, 09:54:52 PM
Post by: puniraptor on July 14, 2015, 11:14:15 PM
Post by: BrokenSky1113 on July 15, 2015, 07:15:19 AM
Saw bolden the other day. He looked taller (thanks to oscar's coaching), and skinnier (thanks I guess to the training table and strength coach)
How did the blood supply to his wrist look?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 15, 2015, 09:45:58 AM
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Post by: sys on July 15, 2015, 03:13:37 PM
Who is Hot Horndogs? :confused:
he already said that one. it's the recruit from reno county.
Post by: renocat on July 15, 2015, 03:44:00 PM
Good fit for Budke. He is the type of kid who put his nose up the other team's fartlauncher and screw them with a driving layup.Who is Hot Horndogs? :confused:
he already said that one. it's the recruit from reno county.
Post by: Tobias on July 15, 2015, 04:12:51 PM
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Post by: Trim on July 15, 2015, 04:29:46 PM
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Post by: Trim on July 15, 2015, 11:00:23 PM
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I had the chance opportunity over the weekend to speak to a player on the basketball team last year. For whatever reason, he spoke very candidly about his thoughts on Weber and last year. All I said to him to get him started was "Last year was kind of mess, huh?"
Not that any of this info is a total surprise. It was more of a surprise how candidly he spoke. It's what some of us expected, but here it goes. Drug use was rampant. He specifically mentioned Marcus, Nigel, Malek, Tre, and Jevon. He said he felt like the problem could have been dealt with in the beginning, but oscar just chose to ignore it. He said Coach Weber had all the information available to him. He can't plead ignorance.
In one particular situation he said that Coach Weber called him a liar to his face. When the truth came to light and could no longer be avoided, all of the assistants apologized to him, but oscar never did. He called oscar two-faced, that he talks about family and team chemistry and all that in public, but he called it a joke. He said last year was the worst basketball experience of his life.
He said and I quote. "Marcus was a horrible person and teammate, but Nigel was even worse." The story on Jevon's suspension. He was thrown off the team. He walked out of practice. I guess he said he had an injury. Weber asked if he had seen a trainer. Jevon said no. Weber basically said if you leave you're gone. He left. Later oscar said if you apologize to the team you can return. He did, but then privately told his teammates he was only apologizing to play out the year. He was transferring regardless.
On a more positive note. Thinks Claws is a great kid. Says Westicles will most likely be much more focused and improved with the detractors gone. Thinks Dante is great as well.
He also mentioned the team surgeon committing suicide days after Karaptyan's last foot surgery. I hadn't heard that. Anybody know the story there? He said he felt really bad for him as his career is over
Lastly, he said oscar will hopefully be gone after this season. He doesn't see how we can win with so many freshman. Perhaps the very worst thing he said was, and I quote. "There are so many things I can't say, but if I knew my basketball career was over and I no longer wanted to play, I could have Coach Weber fired tomorrow."
Now I suppose this player has an axe to grind, but still. I wasn't pressing him at all. He just went on and on. He did say he loved being in Manhattan and K-State was great. The basketball experience just totally sucked.
I thought about not posting this in deference to him, because I suppose anyone close to the program could connect the dots and figure out which player this is, but it wasn't like he was doing me a favor by telling me any of this. This was his choice. I was a little ambiguous as to some of the details as to not totally throw him under the bus. Anyway, just one player's opinion of the state of the program. Pretty much what a lot of us already suspected was the case. Just helped confirm it for me. I just wish AD John Currie would have pulled the trigger last year. I'm guessing it's just a matter of time out of necessity.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 16, 2015, 12:14:02 AM
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Post by: #LIFE on July 16, 2015, 08:42:03 AM
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Lastly, he said oscar will hopefully be gone after this season. He doesn't see how we can win with so many freshman. Perhaps the very worst thing he said was, and I quote. "There are so many things I can't say, but if I knew my basketball career was over and I no longer wanted to play, I could have Coach Weber fired tomorrow."
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Post by: #LIFE on July 16, 2015, 08:45:23 AM
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Just an update FYI. I guess Kade Kinnamon will not be playing basketball as a walk on next year. He went up to scrimmage this weekend and was told they had enough walkons. I guess some of the other walk ons were up there all summer and they went with the ones that stayed up there all summer.
I don't want to answer any questions about this one but decided to let you know FYI.
Evidently oscar had offered this kid a walk-on spot then when he showed up oscar told him nah, we're good. :sdeek:
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Post by: BackPayne on July 16, 2015, 12:08:01 PM
QuoteJust an update FYI. I guess Kade Kinnamon will not be playing basketball as a walk on next year. He went up to scrimmage this weekend and was told they had enough walkons. I guess some of the other walk ons were up there all summer and they went with the ones that stayed up there all summer.
I don't want to answer any questions about this one but decided to let you know FYI.
Evidently oscar had offered this kid a walk-on spot then when he showed up oscar told him nah, we're good. :sdeek:
How shitty!
Post by: #LIFE on July 16, 2015, 12:24:28 PM
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I'm with you, Harv. When I first read the alleged personal account, it sounded strangely like it could have been penned by KSJoey, or maybe even brookside or pharaohcat. I'm not accusing anyone here, mind you, just stating that the tone sounded somewhat familiar, in line with certain opinions on here that blamed Weber. The tone of the account would lead you to believe that the anonymous player really dislikes Weber. From most of what I have read, everyone still here is on board and relieved that the drama appears to have been removed. If someone disliked Weber that much, I can't see them staying to continue to play for him, regardless of their transfer situation. I also think that opinion would gradually leach out and become noticed. Unless a player comes forward and takes ownership of these statements, or makes public similar feelings, I'm going to call B.S. on this and disregard the claims.
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Post by: Spracne on July 16, 2015, 12:24:46 PM
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Post by: CNS on July 16, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
oscar with the walk-off :lol:
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Post by: Trogdor on July 16, 2015, 11:10:15 PM
oscar with the walk-off :lol:
omg :ROFL:
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on July 17, 2015, 01:11:30 PM
doesnt the first sentence imply it was someone on the team last year, but not on it anymore? then again, the anonymous player shits on everyone who left. i guess it could be one of the seniorsMy first guess was Gip or Nino.
Post by: Gooch on July 17, 2015, 01:17:23 PM
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Post by: Trim on July 17, 2015, 02:02:23 PM
Gip. Nino was too much of a bitch.
Too much of a bitch to whine about ever-y-body behind their backs and not do anything about it? Also, too delusional to think that doing something is what would keep him from those big future basketball paydays?
Post by: wetwillie on July 17, 2015, 02:03:17 PM
Post by: sys on July 17, 2015, 02:08:57 PM
Wtf was the surgeon suicide thing? Maybe that was covered on this board an I just missed.it.
a manhattan orthopedic surgeon committed suicide a couple of years ago. he operated on a lot of sport injuries. he operated on me (seemed like a nice guy, seemed to do a good job, gave me morphine).
his suicide had nothing to do with the basketball team, obviously.
http://www.ymlfuneralhome.com/obituary/5047
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 17, 2015, 02:12:13 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on July 17, 2015, 02:14:28 PM
So who do you guys think the player was? Seems like it would either be Edwards or Hurt.
I would put money on it being former walk-on Evan Beucler. I also don't put a lot of value on his opinion.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 17, 2015, 02:15:26 PM
So who do you guys think the player was? Seems like it would either be Edwards or Hurt.
I would put money on it being former walk-on Evan Beucler. I also don't put a lot of value on his opinion.
Old Spice would never snitch.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on July 17, 2015, 02:23:21 PM
So who do you guys think the player was? Seems like it would either be Edwards or Hurt.
I would put money on it being former walk-on Evan Beucler. I also don't put a lot of value on his opinion.
Old Spice would never snitch.
In his own words he isn't snitching, but he is gossiping.
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"There are so many things I can't say, but if I knew my basketball career was over and I no longer wanted to play, I could have Coach Weber fired tomorrow."
Think it is funny that he thinks his basketball walk-on career is tied to oscar being employed at K-State.
Post by: EMAWzified on July 17, 2015, 02:29:06 PM
I'm also open to all speculation about what could get oscar fired immediately. Hitting players? Pay for play? Becoming overly friendly with white walk-ons?
Anyone with any ideas?
Post by: #LIFE on July 17, 2015, 02:41:01 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on July 17, 2015, 02:46:12 PM
I'm thinking Nino.
I'm also open to all speculation about what could get oscar fired immediately. Hitting players? Pay for play? Becoming overly friendly with white walk-ons?
Anyone with any ideas?
Nino was the guy at the Big 12 tourney that protected oscar and threw the younger kids under the bus. No way it is Gip or Nino. The note about Dante is telling because it make the player sound like he has experience with him. Evan and Dante are both from the DFW area.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 17, 2015, 05:54:09 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on July 19, 2015, 12:53:35 PM
it's gip
Reading through it twice makes me think Gip.
Post by: puniraptor on July 20, 2015, 10:21:42 AM
Post by: EMAWzified on July 20, 2015, 01:09:21 PM
it's gip
Reading through it twice makes me think Gip.
The reference to the suiclde might be a clue because DJamer would have had direct experience with the guy. Seems kind of a nonsecular, however. I mean shouldn't have tanked the season.
Post by: #LIFE on July 21, 2015, 07:34:59 PM
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Ok, after talking to 3 parties directly involved I will try to sort through the story without getting into too much detail.
1. Kade and the coaching staff reached an agreement in the spring for Kade to walk on. He was super excited. I'm sure that Dean had a lot to do with this opportunity and Kade is the first one to acknowledge that.
2. Kade told the staff at that time that he was committed to coach his father's MAYB and summer league teams during the month of June. They seemed to be OK with that. (An interesting and maybe telltale sidelight to this scenario. Kade's father has worked the KU summer basketball camps for many, many years and that's why Kade was coaching in June.)
3. About the middle of June Kade quit getting text messages from the coaching staff telling him when scrimmages were.
4. In July when Kade went up to scrimmage with everybody he went ahead and scrimmaged but when it was over was told he was no longer part of the team because they had enough walkons. Incidentally Kade said he had a really good time scrimmaging and played well!
5. Kade happened to get replaced by a 2nd Hutch Juco transfer who was up there for the summer with his friend who had also agreed to walk on.
6. At least it was Coach Weber who told Kade about what was decided and not thrown off to an unlucky assistant.
Post by: Trim on July 21, 2015, 08:48:49 PM
Post by: BrokenSky1113 on July 22, 2015, 07:20:58 AM
But this is horrific if any half decent talent ever comes out of central Kansas again. The Kinnamons run B-Ball in central Kansas.
Also no way this makes Claws happy heading into the season.
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Post by: Spracne on July 23, 2015, 08:01:39 PM
As an adult man growing up on the Kansas prairie, Salina was always referred to as "north-central", so I would say that McPherson is central Kansas.
I almost said Salina/McPherson, but McP's is so close to Hutch, I didn't feel right saying it.
Post by: bones129 on July 24, 2015, 12:01:32 AM
As an adult man growing up on the Kansas prairie, Salina was always referred to as "north-central", so I would say that McPherson is central Kansas.
Where does that put Lindsborg?
Post by: louie on July 24, 2015, 05:01:01 AM
Who cares?As an adult man growing up on the Kansas prairie, Salina was always referred to as "north-central", so I would say that McPherson is central Kansas.
Where does that put Lindsborg?
Doesn't sound very promising for the upcoming bball season. Really hard to fathom releasing a player with those connections by saying "we have enough walk-ons"...
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Post by: mhkpasa on July 27, 2015, 12:47:27 PM
I consider Chapman, Abilene, Concordia, Marysville, Wamego, and Clay Center as North Central. But that's just the league that my high school was in, so bias.
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