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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: sonofdaxjones on June 04, 2015, 09:50:57 AM

Title: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 04, 2015, 09:50:57 AM
and I want to thank the Republicans and the Obama Administration for (likely) ramming this thing through. 

When of all entities, Forbes Magazine is writing articles warning about implications of the privacy provisions regarding the offshoring of private and personal information as it pertains to a TRADE deal, you've got some red flags.

I guess the Internet of Scary Things is going to get here even faster.   Fantastic

Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: puniraptor on June 04, 2015, 10:44:57 AM
i wafted quite the variety of aromas from that post. can you specify clearly which parts are sarcasm and which parts arent?
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: CNS on June 04, 2015, 10:50:32 AM
Maybe just post the link?
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: puniraptor on June 04, 2015, 10:54:01 AM
i wafted quite the variety of aromas from that post. can you specify clearly which parts are sarcasm and which parts arent?

im thinking color code would be best
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: CNS on June 04, 2015, 10:54:48 AM
i wafted quite the variety of aromas from that post. can you specify clearly which parts are sarcasm and which parts arent?

im thinking color code would be best

@PW
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: renocat on June 11, 2015, 04:21:35 PM
I listened to a sub on Rush. This is scary Crap for the US.  Especially with Obama the master deal maker at the helm.  The Crap in the cracks scare me
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2015, 12:58:08 PM
We live in strange times indeed when I'm opposed to Paul Ryan and cheering for Nancy Pelosi. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html)

I mean, that's pretty mumped up, right?
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2015, 01:05:20 PM
We live in strange times indeed when I'm opposed to Paul Ryan and cheering for Nancy Pelosi. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html)

I mean, that's pretty mumped up, right?
It's mumped up that you think that's mumped up
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 12, 2015, 01:09:03 PM
We live in strange times indeed when I'm opposed to Paul Ryan and cheering for Nancy Pelosi. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html)

I mean, that's pretty mumped up, right?

What do you oppose about the trade deal? Don't think we have enough regulation?
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: star seed 7 on June 12, 2015, 01:11:13 PM
The tea party radio hosts are largely misinformed (or just spreading misinformation) about the trade thing so I wouldn't be surprised if ksuw had a little of that going on  :frown:
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 12, 2015, 01:16:45 PM
Isn't this thing still a secret except for a few high ranking house and senate members?
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2015, 01:23:40 PM
We live in strange times indeed when I'm opposed to Paul Ryan and cheering for Nancy Pelosi. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html)

I mean, that's pretty mumped up, right?

What do you oppose about the trade deal? Don't think we have enough regulation?

my guess is he doesn't like giving the president additional power?
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 12, 2015, 01:30:51 PM
We live in strange times indeed when I'm opposed to Paul Ryan and cheering for Nancy Pelosi. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html)

I mean, that's pretty mumped up, right?

What do you oppose about the trade deal? Don't think we have enough regulation?

my guess is he doesn't like giving the president additional power?

What additional power is that?
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2015, 01:33:10 PM
We live in strange times indeed when I'm opposed to Paul Ryan and cheering for Nancy Pelosi. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html)

I mean, that's pretty mumped up, right?

What do you oppose about the trade deal? Don't think we have enough regulation?

my guess is he doesn't like giving the president additional power?

What additional power is that?

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Approval of fast-track would give Mr. Obama the authority to submit trade deals to Congress for an up-or-down vote without amendments, as previous presidents have done. Such power would ease passage of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a deal among the U.S. and 11 other nations to liberalize trade across nearly 40% of the world economy.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/left-and-right-line-up-against-fast-track-trade-legislation-1434015003
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 12, 2015, 01:34:48 PM
We live in strange times indeed when I'm opposed to Paul Ryan and cheering for Nancy Pelosi. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html)

I mean, that's pretty mumped up, right?

What do you oppose about the trade deal? Don't think we have enough regulation?

my guess is he doesn't like giving the president additional power?

What additional power is that?

Quote
Approval of fast-track would give Mr. Obama the authority to submit trade deals to Congress for an up-or-down vote without amendments, as previous presidents have done. Such power would ease passage of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a deal among the U.S. and 11 other nations to liberalize trade across nearly 40% of the world economy.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/left-and-right-line-up-against-fast-track-trade-legislation-1434015003

So he can negotiate a deal and put it to Congress for a vote, just like every president since FDR has done?
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2015, 01:35:35 PM
We live in strange times indeed when I'm opposed to Paul Ryan and cheering for Nancy Pelosi. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html)

I mean, that's pretty mumped up, right?

What do you oppose about the trade deal? Don't think we have enough regulation?

I heard it had a bunch of immigration stuff tucked inside making it easier to import foreign tech workers to replace American jobs. Tough to verify because the bill was secret - I thought bills had to published of public record before they could be voted on?
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 12, 2015, 01:45:49 PM
We live in strange times indeed when I'm opposed to Paul Ryan and cheering for Nancy Pelosi. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html)

I mean, that's pretty mumped up, right?

What do you oppose about the trade deal? Don't think we have enough regulation?

I heard it had a bunch of immigration stuff tucked inside making it easier to import foreign tech workers to replace American jobs. Tough to verify because the bill was secret - I thought bills had to published of public record before they could be voted on?

Are they voting on the trade deal or are they just voting on the fast track that would give Obama the authority to negotiate a trade deal and then bring it to them for a later vote?
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2015, 01:53:49 PM
We live in strange times indeed when I'm opposed to Paul Ryan and cheering for Nancy Pelosi. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/nancy-pelosi-president-obama-trade-118941.html)

I mean, that's pretty mumped up, right?

What do you oppose about the trade deal? Don't think we have enough regulation?

I heard it had a bunch of immigration stuff tucked inside making it easier to import foreign tech workers to replace American jobs. Tough to verify because the bill was secret - I thought bills had to published of public record before they could be voted on?

they aren't approving the trade deal with this vote, necessarily.

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The document is classified. Only members of Congress and staffers with security clearance can access it. And they can't make copies or even carry their own handwritten notes out the door.

This is how trade negotiations work. Fearful that they'll undercut their own negotiators, leaders of the countries involved don't want the details of what they're hashing out revealed until the full package is completed. And it's at the heart of the biggest criticism opponents of the deal have made publicly: the secrecy surrounding it.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/11/politics/trade-deal-secrecy-tpp/

also the immigration trojan horse thing is a big breitbart thing so yeah
Title: Re: I really think this trade deal is going to be great . . .
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2015, 03:22:23 PM
Nancy Pelosi  pwn3d B.O.

How big of a rough ridin' loser democrat do you have to be to get pwn3d politically by nancy?  :ROFL: