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Title: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 01, 2015, 02:23:17 PM
Undercover agents pass weapons through security checkpoints in 67 out of 70 tests. :facepalm:

http://abcnews.go.com/ABCNews/exclusive-undercover-dhs-tests-find-widespread-security-failures/story?id=31434881 (http://abcnews.go.com/ABCNews/exclusive-undercover-dhs-tests-find-widespread-security-failures/story?id=31434881)
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 01, 2015, 02:28:19 PM
Yeah, we should just get rid of them entirely.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: steve dave on June 01, 2015, 02:29:14 PM
I went through security at ORF 3 times in a 10 minute span last week when I was getting bounced around on flights between UA and AA. TSA Pre is amaze.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: CNS on June 01, 2015, 02:32:33 PM
Did pre check this week.  totally amazeballs.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 01, 2015, 03:56:47 PM
Yeah, we should just get rid of them entirely.

No, we should just focus them on worthwhile pursuits, like profiling and questionning, instead of patting down grandmas, making everyone take off their shoes, and seizing all those 5oz tubes of toothpaste. It's a joke.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 01, 2015, 03:59:22 PM
Yeah, we should just get rid of them entirely.

No, we should just focus them on worthwhile pursuits, like profiling and questionning, instead of patting down grandmas, making everyone take off their shoes, and seizing all those 5oz tubes of toothpaste. It's a joke.

I think we should just let the airlines provide their own security like a free society would do. Letting the TSA profile and question for no good reason is just libtarded.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 01, 2015, 04:04:22 PM
Yeah, we should just get rid of them entirely.

No, we should just focus them on worthwhile pursuits, like profiling and questionning, instead of patting down grandmas, making everyone take off their shoes, and seizing all those 5oz tubes of toothpaste. It's a joke.

I think we should just let the airlines provide their own security like a free society would do. Letting the TSA profile and question for no good reason is just libtarded.

Well, maybe, but I'd be a little concerned about terrorists turning planes into guided missles if some cut-rate carrier decided to do away with security. That affects a lot more than the people who choose to fly that airline. I'd be cool with turning security over to independent contractors, though.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 01, 2015, 04:09:25 PM
Yeah, we should just get rid of them entirely.

No, we should just focus them on worthwhile pursuits, like profiling and questionning, instead of patting down grandmas, making everyone take off their shoes, and seizing all those 5oz tubes of toothpaste. It's a joke.

I think we should just let the airlines provide their own security like a free society would do. Letting the TSA profile and question for no good reason is just libtarded.

Well, maybe, but I'd be a little concerned about terrorists turning planes into guided missles if some cut-rate carrier decided to do away with security. That affects a lot more than the people who choose to fly that airline. I'd be cool with turning security over to independent contractors, though.

I think terrorists are just about as likely to turn your airplane into a guided missile with current security measures as they are with no measures at all.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: CNS on June 01, 2015, 04:48:11 PM
Yeah.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: steve dave on June 01, 2015, 05:16:59 PM

Yeah, we should just get rid of them entirely.

No, we should just focus them on worthwhile pursuits, like profiling and questionning, instead of patting down grandmas, making everyone take off their shoes, and seizing all those 5oz tubes of toothpaste. It's a joke.

I don't have to take off my shoes :gocho:
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: sys on June 01, 2015, 05:21:11 PM
secure the borders!   :curse:
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 03, 2015, 12:02:15 AM
Considering the billions of hours wasted in line with tsa and their sole purpose on earth, it seems unusually ignorant to downplay this, even for the pit
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 03, 2015, 12:47:27 AM
Probably a lack of funding. 

congress! :curse:
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: steve dave on June 03, 2015, 07:17:29 AM

Considering the billions of hours wasted in line with tsa and their sole purpose on earth, it seems unusually ignorant to downplay this, even for the pit

Blow the doors off this thing FSD!
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 03, 2015, 08:24:08 AM
Thanks for the authorization, S. Dave

67 out 70 weapons were brought through tsa??????  Are you rough ridin' kidding me?????  These people have billions of dollars of equipment, police style uniforms and thousands of trained employees. Their sole existence on earth is to identify concealed weapons, and they can currently do that at about a 3% success rate. The rough ridin' sky cap could do that.

Burn this mother mumped down.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 03, 2015, 08:28:12 AM
Thanks for the authorization, S. Dave

67 out 70 weapons were brought through tsa??????  Are you rough ridin' kidding me?????  These people have billions of dollars of equipment, police style uniforms and thousands of trained employees. Their sole existence on earth is to identify concealed weapons, and they can currently do that at about a 3% success rate. The rough ridin' sky cap could do that.

Burn this mother mumped down.

It's a shitty job that we can't hire illegal immigrants to perform. If anything, it's surprising that they found as many weapons as they did.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 03, 2015, 08:30:03 AM
Thanks for the authorization, S. Dave

67 out 70 weapons were brought through tsa??????  Are you rough ridin' kidding me?????  These people have billions of dollars of equipment, police style uniforms and thousands of trained employees. Their sole existence on earth is to identify concealed weapons, and they can currently do that at about a 3% success rate. The rough ridin' sky cap could do that.

Burn this mother mumped down.

It's a shitty job that we can't hire illegal immigrants to perform. If anything, it's surprising that they found as many weapons as they did.

Shut up.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: chum1 on June 03, 2015, 08:35:24 AM
Isn't there a pretty big difference between shitty security and no security? And GMAFB with bullying and intrusive, you cranky old men.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 03, 2015, 08:37:19 AM
Isn't there a pretty big difference between shitty security and no security? And GMAFB with bullying and intrusive, you cranky old men.
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Apparently not. But to your point, we could downsize tsa to a day job for bouncers and it would have the same effect.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 03, 2015, 08:38:32 AM
It's an egregious failure that should be ridiculed and laughed at. When that's over it should require a crap load of people being canned and holistic reform.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 03, 2015, 08:43:35 AM
My $60 p/mo ADT system went off 3 out of 70 burglaries. Works great. If I didn't have the system installed who knows how many burglaries I might have had.
-Chum
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 03, 2015, 08:46:29 AM
I see it as a totally acceptable failure rate for a government run program staffed by union members.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 03, 2015, 08:50:07 AM
It's an egregious failure that should be ridiculed and laughed at. When that's over it should require a crap load of people being canned and holistic reform.

Everyone on those staffs should definitely be canned. 

I like the day job for bouncers route.  Except they would get all Fitz on young girls by requiring a pat down.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: puniraptor on June 03, 2015, 08:53:42 AM
i heard a guy (on NPR) taking the "it's not as bad as it looks" stance. His points were that these were trained operatives, intimately aware of the specific weaknesses in procedure and equipment capabilities and they didnt have the chance to be prescreened or racially profiled like they would when trying to intercept real terrorists.

Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 03, 2015, 09:31:25 AM
i heard a guy (on NPR) taking the "it's not as bad as it looks" stance. His points were that these were trained operatives, intimately aware of the specific weaknesses in procedure and equipment capabilities and they didnt have the chance to be prescreened or racially profiled like they would when trying to intercept real terrorists.

Seriously?
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: chum1 on June 03, 2015, 09:35:01 AM
Like, cops don't exist solely to catch people breaking laws. They also function to deter and make it more difficult for people to break laws.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: puniraptor on June 03, 2015, 09:47:11 AM
i heard a guy (on NPR) taking the "it's not as bad as it looks" stance. His points were that these were trained operatives, intimately aware of the specific weaknesses in procedure and equipment capabilities and they didnt have the chance to be prescreened or racially profiled like they would when trying to intercept real terrorists.

Seriously?

it was seriously what this person said. i think he was some former tsa director or HSA official or something
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 03, 2015, 09:50:09 AM
Just how bad at their job are those 3 agents who got caught? That has to be embarrassing for them.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 03, 2015, 10:05:51 AM
Just how bad at their job are those 3 agents who got caught? That has to be embarrassing for them.

I wonder if the three that were caught were attractive women, who were therefore subjected to an additional patdown? Without more information, I think this is the most plausible explanation.
Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 03, 2015, 11:35:54 AM
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Title: Re: TSA - Bullying, Intrusive, and Utterly Useless
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 03, 2015, 11:55:00 AM
oh man, just look at those 2 TSA goons, you just know they are going to enjoy it.