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Title: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 14, 2015, 05:37:56 PM
and he's talking about how he believes there's some concern in the NFL ranks, that college football is producing and will continue to produce even more of what would be considered fast tempo, quick read/no progression/tuck and run QB's.    Guys who literally have the entire offense including audibles called for them from the sidelines.   Howie Long came on a little while later and echoed those concerns, and even went on to discuss how the line calls and schemes in the NFL are so much more sophisticated than what uptempo spread offense lineman have to deal with.   

Cowherd even expressed concern about a perceived disintegration of communication skills by QB's from these systems because everyone just reads the wacky signs, or gets a signal and looks at a wrist band.    Meanwhile the top QB's in the NFL while receiving the in helmet audio for a few seconds, once that's cutoff it's their job to orchestrate the entire offense.   Manning, Brady, Luck etc. etc. . . . the top QB's are reading defenses pre-snap, calling audibles, moving guys around, calling hot reads. 

K-State has some of those "new" offense elements built in like look at the sideline pre-snap.   However, my perception is that much of the K-State offense still incorporates the more sophisticated principals that Snyder first incorporated, particularly in the passing game.

If that is indeed the case how can K-State leverage that to recruits to instill that they'll be more NFL ready? 
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 14, 2015, 05:43:29 PM
Tell them not to listen Cowherd.  :dunno:
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: CNS on May 14, 2015, 05:56:49 PM
College(insert sport here) fans need to stop G so much of AF how successful college players translate to the pro ranks
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 14, 2015, 05:58:22 PM
Tell them not to listen Cowherd.  :dunno:

You probably hate Bill Walton as well. 

Sad

CNS . . . that wasn't the point.  I really don't care how K-State players actually translate in the pro ranks.   I only care about the perception of recruits and translating into the pro's and how that perception could help K-State recruit.   This is not hard.



Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: CNS on May 14, 2015, 06:00:50 PM
Yeah, I get that, but if more and more teams are doing it, it isn't like KSU tier teams are losing kids because of it.
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 14, 2015, 06:02:01 PM
Yeah, I get that, but if more and more teams are doing it, it isn't like KSU tier teams are losing kids because of it.

Thoughtful.   :jerk: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 14, 2015, 06:04:29 PM
Tell them not to listen Cowherd.  :dunno:

You probably hate Bill Walton as well. 

Sad

CNS . . . that wasn't the point.  I really don't care how K-State players actually translate in the pro ranks.   I only care about the perception of recruits and translating into the pro's and how that perception could help K-State recruit.   This is not hard.
Cowherd is a pompous prick. He's a know it all and he's not my thing. He likes to talk down to ppl.
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 14, 2015, 06:06:49 PM
My thoughts exactly

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Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 14, 2015, 06:10:02 PM
You do seem like a KMAN Wildcat Insider kind of guy Wacks.

Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 14, 2015, 06:11:59 PM
You do seem like a KMAN Wildcat Insider kind of guy Wacks.
Why would I listen to KMAN, when I have all the sports stations I want available to me right here in KC.
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 14, 2015, 06:13:07 PM
You do seem like a KMAN Wildcat Insider kind of guy Wacks.
Why would I listen to KMAN, when I have all the sports stations I want available to me right here in KC.

 :dunno: 

Anything to say on the actual subject? 
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 14, 2015, 06:16:26 PM
Not really. I don't think these players think that deeply on the matter. Cowherd always stirring the pot. I guess I'll worry about it when that time arrives, if ever. Nice find tho, dax.
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: star seed 7 on May 14, 2015, 06:17:47 PM
i think telling them to listen to cowherd would have a better effect  :dunno:
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: Spracne on May 14, 2015, 06:53:31 PM
The proof is in the putting... of successful QBs into the NFL.  If you can't point to that, I guess you can try to convince a 17 year old that Howie Long and Colin Cowherd say that NFL executives prefer QBs who play in systems more similar to yours, and that playing in a system like that is your best shot at hitting it big, despite no track record of that being the case nor any coaches with considerable connections to the league.
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: Mr Bread on May 14, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
The proof is in the putting... of successful QBs into the NFL.  If you can't point to that, I guess you can try to convince a 17 year old that Howie Long and Colin Cowherd say that NFL executives prefer QBs who play in systems more similar to yours, and that playing in a system like that is your best shot at hitting it big, despite no track record of that being the case nor any coaches with considerable connections to the league.

My word you are terrified of how much Snyder's recruiting is going to improve due to this talking point.  It's a game changer and you just cannot deal.  Your fear is palpable.  Hope Baity knows how to coach defense against five-star qubes. 

You think they got jake waters without a decided persuasional schematic advantage?  Lol, no.
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: Mr Bread on May 14, 2015, 07:44:18 PM
What the hell am I doing?  Talking elite-level college football recruiting with a squawk. #smdh.
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 14, 2015, 08:26:44 PM
Dumb.


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Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: Pete on May 14, 2015, 09:48:42 PM
I think Bill need to have a QB without a completely mumped shoulder, every once in a while.  Bill breaks all of them.   :frown:
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 14, 2015, 11:03:06 PM
I think Bill need to have a QB without a completely mumped shoulder, every once in a while.  Bill breaks all of them.   :frown:
Seems to work most of the time tho. For the greater good.
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: CNS on May 15, 2015, 09:06:46 AM
I think Bill need to have a QB without a completely mumped shoulder, every once in a while.  Bill breaks all of them.   :frown:
Seems to work most of the time tho. For the greater good.

As long as sharing a title is the highest you want to get right before you get your ass mopped up in a bowl game.
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 15, 2015, 10:29:23 AM
I think Bill need to have a QB without a completely mumped shoulder, every once in a while.  Bill breaks all of them.   :frown:

He needs to recruit a QB who can win games without breaking his shoulder in the process.
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: Katpappy on May 15, 2015, 02:39:10 PM
I think Bill need to have a QB without a completely mumped shoulder, every once in a while.  Bill breaks all of them.   :frown:

He needs to recruit a QB/RB Kamikaze who can win games without breaking his shoulder in the process.
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: hemmy on May 15, 2015, 03:44:20 PM
Couldn't the NFL teams just buy some wacky signs and call the plays with them too?
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: CNS on May 15, 2015, 03:48:56 PM
Couldn't the NFL teams just buy some wacky signs and call the plays with them too?

Seems like this would elevate the level of play by the middle tier qb's.   :dunno:
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: ChiComCat on May 15, 2015, 03:56:03 PM
I think Bill need to have a QB without a completely mumped shoulder, every once in a while.  Bill breaks all of them.   :frown:

We should focus on recruiting the best shoulder doctor's to Manhattan.  The rest will fall into place
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: Unruly on May 15, 2015, 04:20:06 PM
Think how fast college football would be with helmets that had mics. My word.
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 16, 2015, 11:00:40 AM
I think Bill need to have a QB without a completely mumped shoulder, every once in a while.  Bill breaks all of them.   :frown:

We should focus on recruiting the best shoulder doctor's to Manhattan.  The rest will fall into place

We should just keep 4 QBs who can Klein their way forward for positive yards every play. We only need to get 3 games per set of shoulders that way.
Title: Re: So I'm listening to Cowherd today
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 16, 2015, 11:41:57 AM
Better shoulder protection, best shoulder docs, best anti-sgetti brain helmets.   K-State is set.