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Title: Failure, in one chart
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 29, 2015, 01:55:46 PM
Seems like looking at job growth net of population growth is pretty fair and relevant.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3-ps.googleusercontent.com%2Fhk%2F9dO3E1tyAM9FEJoQjUgzLfLy1j%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F575x444xobama-reagan-job-growth-575x444.png.pagespeed.ic.ACsiKkSPDqcRRY8eJlKY.png&hash=6e1414191f6fe073bc955ba1429c68736b73a837)
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: 8manpick on April 29, 2015, 02:08:09 PM
Does that graph adjust for the antiquation of job fields as a result of technological advances far outpacing the creation of jobs from technological advances?
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 29, 2015, 02:29:22 PM
Does that graph adjust for the antiquation of job fields as a result of technological advances far outpacing the creation of jobs from technological advances?

Give me those numbers and we'll see if we can adjust the chart.
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: 8manpick on April 29, 2015, 02:30:46 PM
Give me just a sec
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: Kat Kid on April 29, 2015, 02:55:20 PM
Seems like looking at job growth net of population growth is pretty fair and relevant.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3-ps.googleusercontent.com%2Fhk%2F9dO3E1tyAM9FEJoQjUgzLfLy1j%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F575x444xobama-reagan-job-growth-575x444.png.pagespeed.ic.ACsiKkSPDqcRRY8eJlKY.png&hash=6e1414191f6fe073bc955ba1429c68736b73a837)

http://populationpyramid.net/united-states-of-america/1980/ (http://populationpyramid.net/united-states-of-america/1980/)

http://populationpyramid.net/united-states-of-america/2020/ (http://populationpyramid.net/united-states-of-america/2020/)
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 29, 2015, 03:21:05 PM
Does that graph adjust for the antiquation of job fields as a result of technological advances far outpacing the creation of jobs from technological advances?

So are you suggesting that that effect - advances in technology reducing jobs - has occurred to a much greater extent in this past 5 years as opposed to the 80s? Seems like that is more of a constant factor. Maybe we're shipping more jobs overseas recently, but that's still an indirect indictment of the administration's policies (taxes, wages, regulations, etc.).
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: 8manpick on April 29, 2015, 03:38:01 PM
I don't know if it is happening more now, more then or if it was more in the 1910's. 

I do believe that as machines/technology/etc eliminate the need to pay humans for jobs to produce goods for other people, it naturally eliminates a working lower-middle class.  This seems to me to be a real problem.

Disclaimer: Player Piano has, at least, temporarily shaken my faith in our society moving forward.
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 29, 2015, 04:25:01 PM
I don't know if it is happening more now, more then or if it was more in the 1910's. 

I do believe that as machines/technology/etc eliminate the need to pay humans for jobs to produce goods for other people, it naturally eliminates a working lower-middle class.  This seems to me to be a real problem.

Disclaimer: Player Piano has, at least, temporarily shaken my faith in our society moving forward.

Ok, but the the benefit/harm of more efficient technology replacing less efficient labor is a different issue. The point remains that Obama's "recovery" isn't a recovery at all with respect to jobs, and this is highlighted by comparing it to the real jobs recovery that occurred under Reagan.

To your issue, I think greater efficiency is probably a net positive. But keep in mind that "the working lower-middle class" isn't just being replaced by greater efficiency - they're being replaced by cheaper labor, both here illegally and overseas.
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 29, 2015, 05:38:01 PM
Ran across this while googling unemployment.

There are about 81 million families in the US with a child under 18.
16 million of them do not have an employed member of the family. :eek:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/famee.pdf (http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/famee.pdf)
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2015, 05:40:12 PM
Ran across this while googling unemployment.
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: puniraptor on April 29, 2015, 05:43:55 PM
i just googled it and found something kinda funny, but it's too nsfw to post
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 29, 2015, 05:45:48 PM
Ran across this while googling unemployment.

for finding both interesting and accurate information.
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: Headinjun on April 29, 2015, 06:10:50 PM
Seems like looking at job growth net of population growth is pretty fair and relevant.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3-ps.googleusercontent.com%2Fhk%2F9dO3E1tyAM9FEJoQjUgzLfLy1j%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F575x444xobama-reagan-job-growth-575x444.png.pagespeed.ic.ACsiKkSPDqcRRY8eJlKY.png&hash=6e1414191f6fe073bc955ba1429c68736b73a837)

If those sluts could have only got their birth control!!
Title: Failure, in one chart
Post by: slobber on April 29, 2015, 07:21:30 PM
Image: PLAYHARD:


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: star seed 7 on April 29, 2015, 07:23:19 PM
i just googled it and found something kinda funny, but it's too nsfw to post

Post it, wuss
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 29, 2015, 07:46:17 PM
Did someone actually try and compare Obama's economic quagmire with the robust economic growth under Reagan??? I'm trying to figure why a graph like that would ever be necessary to demonstrate such an obvious point, but then I saw the asinine rationalization offered by the libtards and wondered if maybe someone had.
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: puniraptor on April 29, 2015, 10:21:40 PM
i just googled it and found something kinda funny, but it's too nsfw to post

Post it, wuss
Nope!
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: Tobias on April 29, 2015, 11:23:28 PM
-y-
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: ednksu on April 30, 2015, 10:42:09 AM
Ran across this while googling unemployment.
or Herman Cain's facebook page....
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: ednksu on April 30, 2015, 10:43:31 AM
does this chart control for massive lib using government to create thousands of jobs by using the milking power of the government tit?
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 30, 2015, 11:46:45 AM
This one really brought out the deflectors.  :katpak:
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: slobber on April 30, 2015, 12:16:24 PM
Image: PLAYHARD:


Gonna win 'em all!
Normally I don't expect to get comments with my posts, but I really expected an :lol: or two from this one.
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 30, 2015, 12:56:30 PM
Ran across this while googling unemployment.

There are about 81 million families in the US with a child under 18.
16 million of them do not have an employed member of the family. :eek:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/famee.pdf (http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/famee.pdf)

Staying home with the kids must be great
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 30, 2015, 04:11:30 PM
This one really brought out the deflectors.  :katpak:

It really did.
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: puniraptor on April 30, 2015, 04:30:08 PM
when i was young, my mom taught me that "wuss" (or "wussy") was a portmanteau of "wimp" and "the p-word"

in my present-day research, i can find no etymological basis for her claims.
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: slobber on April 30, 2015, 04:39:04 PM
when i was young, my mom taught me that "wuss" (or "wussy") was a portmanteau of "wimp" and "the p-word"

in my present-day research, i can find no etymological basis for her claims.
Fast Times at Ridgemont High. "You are a wuss. Part wimp and part pussy."
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: puniraptor on April 30, 2015, 04:43:10 PM
when i was young, my mom taught me that "wuss" (or "wussy") was a portmanteau of "wimp" and "the p-word"

in my present-day research, i can find no etymological basis for her claims.
Fast Times at Ridgemont High. "You are a wuss. Part wimp and part pussy."

 :surprised:

very little chance my mom has seen that movie.
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: Mr Bread on April 30, 2015, 04:43:56 PM
how is a wimp different than a pussy in this context?
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: puniraptor on April 30, 2015, 04:45:35 PM
that that movie invent the word  :surprised:
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: slobber on April 30, 2015, 04:48:56 PM
that that movie invent the word  :surprised:
No, it did not.
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 30, 2015, 04:49:56 PM
It defined the word.
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: slobber on April 30, 2015, 04:51:02 PM
when i was young, my mom taught me that "wuss" (or "wussy") was a portmanteau of "wimp" and "the p-word"

in my present-day research, i can find no etymological basis for her claims.
Fast Times at Ridgemont High. "You are a wuss. Part wimp and part pussy."

 :surprised:

very little chance my mom has seen that movie.
My Mom decided to take a college English class at my high school after I went off to college. The class was allowed to choose a movie to review. They chose that movie. Mom was not impressed with the nakedness and such while she sat through it with a bunch of high school Seniors who were trying to get English I out of the way.
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 30, 2015, 04:52:48 PM
Sounds like the kids at Ridgemont High were a little too fast for Mrs. Dobber.
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: Mr Bread on April 30, 2015, 04:56:48 PM
when i was young, my mom taught me that "wuss" (or "wussy") was a portmanteau of "wimp" and "the p-word"

in my present-day research, i can find no etymological basis for her claims.
Fast Times at Ridgemont High. "You are a wuss. Part wimp and part pussy."

 :surprised:

very little chance my mom has seen that movie.
My Mom decided to take a college English class at my high school after I went off to college. The class was allowed to choose a movie to review. They chose that movie. Mom was not impressed with the nakedness and such while she sat through it with a bunch of high school Seniors who were trying to get English I out of the way.

did she mention the fifteen year old girl getting the abortion with her brother and the statutory rape that preceeded it?
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: slobber on April 30, 2015, 05:19:18 PM
when i was young, my mom taught me that "wuss" (or "wussy") was a portmanteau of "wimp" and "the p-word"

in my present-day research, i can find no etymological basis for her claims.
Fast Times at Ridgemont High. "You are a wuss. Part wimp and part pussy."

 :surprised:

very little chance my mom has seen that movie.
My Mom decided to take a college English class at my high school after I went off to college. The class was allowed to choose a movie to review. They chose that movie. Mom was not impressed with the nakedness and such while she sat through it with a bunch of high school Seniors who were trying to get English I out of the way.

did she mention the fifteen year old girl getting the abortion with her brother and the statutory rape that preceeded it?
She just let me know that she thought that the movie was inappropriate for the high school kids to be watching and that she didn't care for it. However, I am pretty sure that she didn't care for the part that you specifically mentioned, too.
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2015, 06:57:11 PM
pretty good movie tho
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: slobber on April 30, 2015, 08:23:45 PM

pretty good movie tho
top 5 for me. Not kidding. I loved that movie so hard when I was in school. I recorded the TV edited version in high school and watched it about 100 times. I had a hoodie like spicolli from the "havin' some food and learnin' about Cuba" scene. I rocked it pretty hard.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Failure, in one chart
Post by: Mr Bread on May 01, 2015, 12:12:34 PM
i've never seen it all.  whatever part i end up dropping in on it i've never particualrly cared for so is top watching it and do something better.