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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: renocat on April 15, 2015, 11:51:29 PM
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A couple in Mayland has been letting their children 6 and 10 roam free around the neighbohood - to school or playing in the park without supervision. Someone contacted child services andthe6 took the kids into custody and told the parents they would take them away if they were caught roaming frre range. If these goofy parents want to do this = then let them. I would not, but they ain't my kids.
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it's normal for children to roam free. what the eff is wrong with people?
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http://salinapost.com/2015/04/14/feces-cover-girl-leads-to-child-endangerment-charges/ (http://salinapost.com/2015/04/14/feces-cover-girl-leads-to-child-endangerment-charges/)
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http://salinapost.com/2015/04/14/feces-cover-girl-leads-to-child-endangerment-charges/ (http://salinapost.com/2015/04/14/feces-cover-girl-leads-to-child-endangerment-charges/)
Man, kids suck.
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Child protective services does good important work. Unfortunately they suffer from the same problem as most well intentioned government agencies - very little common sense and a lack of discretion. Perhaps the lack of discretion is driven by a "take no chances" mentality, but it sometimes leads to absurd, unjust results. I think the hippies with the kids walking to a park fall into that category.
I have personal experience with this. An overzealous daycare worker once called in a report due to a "suspicious" bruise on our sons leg. He had fallen the afternoon before while playing. SRS visited our home twice - once with an accompanying police officer - for inspections and follow up. We even had to pay for a visit to our pediatrician to help prove that it was a completely normal injury. It took them several months to complete their investigation. And in typical bureaucratic legalese, we were never fully exonerated - only a finding of "unsubstantiated," which is apparently the best they'll ever say.
So I know how ridiculous and agonizing these agencies's lack of judgment can be. But then I read things like the Salina story and you are reminded that they also do important work.
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I bet he "fell" the night Obama was re-elected :frown:
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DNR, but the 6 yr old is a little young, depending on how far away he/she was roaming, imo. However, my kid has had full run of a portion of our neighborhood, within eye sight, of our house since he was 6. That said, he had to tell us what he was doing, where as, the radio said that this specific set of parents didn't require him to report to them.
What is silly is how different we, as a people, feel about our kids and their safety regardless of the level of freedom and trust we were given as kids.
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My 5 year old already has a motorcycle, get over it people
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My 5 year old already has a motorcycle, get over it people
I wouldn't let him on the freeway unless it will hit at least 70mph.
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What is silly is how different we, as a people, feel about our kids and their safety regardless of the level of freedom and trust we were given as kids.
Very true.
Also, I don't blame protective services from confronting the Boston couple initially, but they should have backed the eff off after the parents explained that this wasn't a matter of neglect but a conscious decision to teach independence. It's not something every parent would agree with, but it's not completely unreasonable either.
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Regardless of how you feel about medical marijuana, here is another perfect example of SRS/police thuggery, right here in Kansas.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article19890942.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article19890942.html)
Shona Banda says she had a clear choice: Live in misery or use medical marijuana to ease her Crohn's disease and risk going to jail.
Turned out to be an easy call for the Garden City, Kan., woman. She said her symptoms eased to the point where she could return to work and once again play with her young son.
But she didn't count on that same son, now 11, speaking out in school recently about the benefits of medical marijuana, including saying that it had saved his mother's life. School officials contacted police, who searched her house and found marijuana and cannabis oil.
That's where her old choice took a new turn. Police didn't take her to jail. Authorities took her son away and put him in protective state custody.
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On March 24, Banda arrived home and found two Garden City police officers and two child social workers on her porch. Two more officers were elsewhere on her property.
Banda recorded with her cellphone as she approached the group.
"What are you doing?" she asked the officers. "Why are you on my porch and in my back yard?"
"We got a call from the Department for Children and Families and we need to speak with you," a female officer said. "Will you give us consent to search your home?"
"No," Banda answered. She again asked why officers were in her back yard.
"We have a right to be where the public has a right to be," the [smug bad person] female officer said.
"The public does not have a right to be in my back yard," Banda [correctly] said [to the fascist assholes].
Police eventually got a warrant, and their search of the house turned up marijuana.
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If you know the cops are coming back with a warrant, ditch the weed you dipshit
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If you know the cops are coming back with a warrant, ditch the weed you dipshit
Yeah, no kidding.
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If you know the cops are coming back with a warrant, ditch the weed you dipshit
Yeah, what in the world
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DNR this thread but this is a hilarious conversation to listen to people take part in. Did you know that every person you know just went all over when they were kids and kids today are so sheltered they can't even go down the block without their parents being right there? wow, here's a story about how far I would go away from my house when I was a really little kid. oh wow, me too except HERE's how much further I would go and my parents had NO IDEA where I was at. kids today though. society is such a mess. let's lead this into the conversation about how kids today don't really PLAY like we did when we were growing up. oh I know, we actually played outside and used our imagination. now computers. video games. oh how terrible, structured play. organized sports, uck. oh I know, so sad. NOT LIKE WHEN WE WERE KIDS!
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DNR this thread but this is a hilarious conversation to listen to people take part in. Did you know that every person you know just went all over when they were kids and kids today are so sheltered they can't even go down the block without their parents being right there? wow, here's a story about how far I would go away from my house when I was a really little kid. oh wow, me too except HERE's how much further I would go and my parents had NO IDEA where I was at. kids today though. society is such a mess. let's lead this into the conversation about how kids today don't really PLAY like we did when we were growing up. oh I know, we actually played outside and used our imagination. now computers. video games. oh how terrible, structured play. organized sports, uck. oh I know, so sad. NOT LIKE WHEN WE WERE KIDS!
I always assumed you read every thread. :cry:
The rest of your post needed some quotes, because I was thinking that you were getting ready to tell us how young sd went all of the way to Plains without your parents knowing where you were.
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DNR this thread but this is a hilarious conversation to listen to people take part in. Did you know that every person you know just went all over when they were kids and kids today are so sheltered they can't even go down the block without their parents being right there? wow, here's a story about how far I would go away from my house when I was a really little kid. oh wow, me too except HERE's how much further I would go and my parents had NO IDEA where I was at. kids today though. society is such a mess. let's lead this into the conversation about how kids today don't really PLAY like we did when we were growing up. oh I know, we actually played outside and used our imagination. now computers. video games. oh how terrible, structured play. organized sports, uck. oh I know, so sad. NOT LIKE WHEN WE WERE KIDS!
You should read the thread. I think you'd at least sympathize with the pothead mom who had her kid taken away.
But to your larger point, pretty much everything those parents are saying is true. From everything on an ipad to everyone gets a medal to instant gratification to overprotective parents, our kids are being deprived of important life lessons.
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DNR this thread but this is a hilarious conversation to listen to people take part in. Did you know that every person you know just went all over when they were kids and kids today are so sheltered they can't even go down the block without their parents being right there? wow, here's a story about how far I would go away from my house when I was a really little kid. oh wow, me too except HERE's how much further I would go and my parents had NO IDEA where I was at. kids today though. society is such a mess. let's lead this into the conversation about how kids today don't really PLAY like we did when we were growing up. oh I know, we actually played outside and used our imagination. now computers. video games. oh how terrible, structured play. organized sports, uck. oh I know, so sad. NOT LIKE WHEN WE WERE KIDS!
I always assumed you read every thread. :cry:
The rest of your post needed some quotes, because I was thinking that you were getting ready to tell us how young sd went all of the way to Plains without your parents knowing where you were.
eff that, I played NES 24/7 just like every other kid my age.
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I see a lot of people commenting that "It's a different world out there now" as justification for being overly protective. The world is no more dangerous now than (insert decade when you were a kid and rode your bike around with other kids until dark). People are acting like child molesters were just invented in 2002 or something.
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DNR this thread but this is a hilarious conversation to listen to people take part in. Did you know that every person you know just went all over when they were kids and kids today are so sheltered they can't even go down the block without their parents being right there? wow, here's a story about how far I would go away from my house when I was a really little kid. oh wow, me too except HERE's how much further I would go and my parents had NO IDEA where I was at. kids today though. society is such a mess. let's lead this into the conversation about how kids today don't really PLAY like we did when we were growing up. oh I know, we actually played outside and used our imagination. now computers. video games. oh how terrible, structured play. organized sports, uck. oh I know, so sad. NOT LIKE WHEN WE WERE KIDS!
I always assumed you read every thread. :cry:
The rest of your post needed some quotes, because I was thinking that you were getting ready to tell us how young sd went all of the way to Plains without your parents knowing where you were.
eff that, I played NES 24/7 just like every other kid my age.
Yeah, I pretty much just camped out in the house, too. The neighborhood I live in now is weird. Kids just run around everywhere and their parents have no idea where they are.
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I learned some real helpful life lessons the second time I was kidnapped, the first time obviously not as much.
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so many kids got molested in the good old days. it was a different time.
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http://www.citylab.com/navigator/2015/06/why-kids-need-dangerous-play/395651/
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Saw a couple of days ago where a judge ruled in favor of this family. Probably cost them a bundle to defend. Kids need to get out and play in the dirt and get root hog filthy. A nurse friend told.me kids don't have good immune systems because they don't play in the dirt. On the farm we played in the dirt, had cow Frisbee fights, wallered on our stinking old.dog, and caught critters for fun. Today's PC police would have put mom in prison.
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Saw a couple of days ago where a judge ruled in favor of this family. Probably cost them a bundle to defend. Kids need to get out and play in the dirt and get root hog filthy. A nurse friend told.me kids don't have good immune systems because they don't play in the dirt. On the farm we played in the dirt, had cow Frisbee fights, wallered on our stinking old.dog, and caught critters for fun. Today's PC police would have put mom in prison.
Is wallering like hunching?
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