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Title: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Pete on April 03, 2015, 12:03:54 PM
With the hire of Shaka, Texas instantly becomes the media darling of the Big 12.  I have read countless articles citing what a great guy he is, and clearly he can flat out coach.

What an amazing "get" for the Big 12.  It's going to be really great rooting for him to do well.

I wonder what the over/under is on the number of Big 12 titles he will win in his first 10 years?  I'd say at least 4, conservatively.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: SdK on April 03, 2015, 12:06:40 PM
KU's run is over. They might win it one more year. But after that, #hookem for years.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: kslim on April 03, 2015, 12:07:04 PM
Yes the big 12 just got way better.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on April 03, 2015, 12:07:59 PM
"only because rick barnes left." -steve dave
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Havs on April 03, 2015, 12:11:56 PM
This makes me that much angrier that Iowa State pissed the conference title down their leg this season.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 03, 2015, 12:18:15 PM
he does it the right way
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: kso_FAN on April 03, 2015, 12:25:14 PM
This makes me that much angrier that Iowa State pissed the conference title down their leg this season.

True, but OU fans should be more upset. Lost to us twice and lost a 20 point lead in the 2nd half in Ames.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on April 03, 2015, 12:31:50 PM
Shaka is a huge get, but don't underestimate the quality of coaching in the conference already. I'd definitely go with the under 4 for Big XII titles in first ten years.

I'm kinda missing Barnes already, it made it easy to hate on Texas.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: pissclams on April 03, 2015, 12:51:05 PM
has very large beak
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: TownieCat on April 03, 2015, 01:00:24 PM
Shaka couldn't even win the CAA or A10 so there is no reason I should believe he can win the Big 12.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 03, 2015, 01:10:43 PM
I doubt he'll match 2003-2008 Texas in any 6 year span
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 03, 2015, 01:24:38 PM
Easily has the most raw coaching talent with the most upside in the league Pete.  You know me though, its all about #family

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Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: steve dave on April 03, 2015, 01:28:31 PM
Calipari
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 03, 2015, 01:33:51 PM
Calipari

wrong thread
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: steve dave on April 03, 2015, 01:49:28 PM
Sorry, tapatalk cut off the B12 part
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 03, 2015, 01:55:19 PM
Starting in 2002-2003, ending in 2010-2011, Texas went 232-80 for a win % of .744.

It might have been time for a new leader in Austin, but I'm not sure I think Shaka will match a run like Barnes had. I was kinda of the mindset of "oh barnes is overrated blah blah" but when you look at the stats, it was a hell of a run.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 03, 2015, 02:56:09 PM
I expect the recruiting to drop off.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 03, 2015, 03:00:24 PM
I expect the recruiting to drop off.
Pffttt. Really?
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: steve dave on April 03, 2015, 03:00:58 PM
Barnes has left a very good situation for Smart. Both studs who are probably best buds IRL.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 03, 2015, 03:10:40 PM
I expect the recruiting to drop off.
Pffttt. Really?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/colleges.cgi?college=texas (http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/colleges.cgi?college=texas)

They've had a ton of talent there WC
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 03, 2015, 03:16:43 PM
Yeah, I know that. Smart brought in a top 20 kid just last year to VCU. I think he'll recruit just as good as Barnes, if not better.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: wetwillie on April 03, 2015, 04:16:38 PM
Count me amongst the crowd that does not think shaka will be able to out recruit Rick Barnes.  He would have to start pulling in coach K, calipari, self classes.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 03, 2015, 04:19:40 PM
He's brought in like 6 4*'s to VCU you guys. He's charismatic as hell.
Title: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the...
Post by: steve dave on April 03, 2015, 04:19:50 PM
He'll recruit well, he'll be fine. Barnes left him with a lot to work with and a fantastic foundation for the program.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Pete on April 03, 2015, 07:06:51 PM

He'll recruit well, he'll be fine. Barnes left him with a lot to work with and a fantastic foundation for the program.

Yep.

Strong foundation with sky high potential. 
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: The Big Train on April 03, 2015, 07:31:18 PM
i think he will out-recruit self by year 2, with self's record of ruining young talent i think higher profile kids will pick texas over KU because of shaka.  oubre was lucky to get out while he still could and alexander is stuck for another year it seems.  shaka just brings that "IT" factor to the big 12.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 04, 2015, 02:08:50 PM
He is going to recruit the eff out of Texas
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 04, 2015, 02:47:49 PM
He is going to recruit the eff out of Texas
Yup
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Cire on April 04, 2015, 03:02:20 PM
Shaka is probably going to play the bob stoops to ku's Nebraska
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2015, 07:19:37 PM

Shaka is probably going to play the bob stoops to ku's Nebraska

LOTTA similarities between Bill and Tom too.  Great analogy.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: gatoveintisiet on April 04, 2015, 07:37:59 PM
So do you guys think Shaka will take Texas to new heights of basketball success.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Havs on April 06, 2015, 08:20:40 AM
This makes me that much angrier that Iowa State pissed the conference title down their leg this season.

True, but OU fans should be more upset. Lost to us twice and lost a 20 point lead in the 2nd half in Ames.

Oh God, and now their biggest rival has Smart...  :'bye cruel world:
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Cire on April 06, 2015, 12:11:24 PM

Shaka is probably going to play the bob stoops to ku's Nebraska

LOTTA similarities between Bill and Tom too.  Great analogy.

shaka will start winning a lot.

Big 12 will move the tourney to Dallas for 10 years and KU will go to the Pac 12
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Pete on April 06, 2015, 01:15:02 PM


Shaka is probably going to play the bob stoops to ku's Nebraska

LOTTA similarities between Bill and Tom too.  Great analogy.

shaka will start winning a lot.

Big 12 will move the tourney to Dallas for 10 years and KU will go to the Pac 12

This is accurate, maybe too accurate.  You must promise to only use your time machine for good, and never for evil.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on April 12, 2015, 07:44:12 AM
i think he will out-recruit self by year 2, with self's record of ruining young talent i think higher profile kids will pick texas over KU because of shaka.  oubre was lucky to get out while he still could and alexander is stuck for another year it seems.  shaka just brings that "IT" factor to the big 12.

I'm all about Shaka outclassing Bill, but weren't high profile kids picking UT over KU with Barnes at the helm? Shaka has to out-coach Bill not out-recruit.
Title: Re: Is Shaka Smart the best combination of Person and Teacher coaching MBB in the Big 12?
Post by: Pete on April 12, 2015, 12:16:39 PM
"It's a five-year contract, but the chances of staying for five years I don't think are very good," Popovich said.


Shaka only has to out-coach Self for another year or two.