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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 02, 2015, 01:28:32 AM
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I'm on the fence about joining. Thoughts?
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Do it as a secret agent for gE.
Gonna win 'em all!
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Do whatever you want erii
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Is that the one with the magic underwear or am I thinking of something else?
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I think it would do you some good
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Is that the one with the magic underwear or am I thinking of something else?
a fun thing about religions is that the followers of every single religion make fun of the ridiculous magical beliefs of the other religions
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Is that the one with the magic underwear or am I thinking of something else?
a fun thing about religions is that the followers of every single religion make fun of the ridiculous magical beliefs of the other religions
turns out it is a Mormon thing, good call.
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Too expensive
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Too expensive
Thetans tho
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that documentary was pretty good
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Too late to get in now. All the money is made by those at the top of the pyramid.
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that documentary was pretty good
Heard the book was even better.
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Anyone seeking to follow a faith or faith group should do so because they know the beliefs of that faith. Don't be influenced by the leader, minister, the people, friends or family pressures. Easter is eggs and bunnies - I invite you to learn the real meaning. Don't join them mad dog ISIS nuts!!
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Anyone seeking to follow a faith or faith group should do so because they know the beliefs of that faith. Don't be influenced by the leader, minister, the people, friends or family pressures. Easter is eggs and bunnies - I invite you to learn the real meaning. Don't join them mad dog ISIS nuts!!
Religion wouldn't have made it very long if everyone followed that advice.
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Saw about 25 minutes of the middle of the documentary. Excited to watch the rest.
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I can appreciate that Scientology became a religion for the tax shelter. :kstategrad:
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Are Christian Science and Scientology synonyms or distinct.
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Are Christian Science and Scientology synonyms or distinct.
Are Christian Scientists the ones who think if you get hit by a car its because God wanted you dead and you should bother with a hospital?
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Are Christian Science and Scientology synonyms or distinct.
Are Christian Scientists the ones who think if you get hit by a car its because God wanted you dead and you should bother with a hospital?
Depends on the denomination. Christians who think that way are very rare, though.
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Are Christian Science and Scientology synonyms or distinct.
Are Christian Scientists the ones who think if you get hit by a car its because God wanted you dead and you should bother with a hospital?
Depends on the denomination. Christians who think that way are very rare, though.
There are multiple denominations of Christian Science?
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Are Christian Science and Scientology synonyms or distinct.
Are Christian Scientists the ones who think if you get hit by a car its because God wanted you dead and you should bother with a hospital?
Depends on the denomination. Christians who think that way are very rare, though.
There are multiple denominations of Christian Science?
There is no such thing as Christian science. Some Christians choose to believe in it, nonetheless.
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I guess I'm confused. I always thought Christian Science was a theology. I didn't know there was no actual thing as Christian Science.
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http://gawker.com/a-comprehensive-updated-list-of-every-celebrity-linked-1694554276 (http://gawker.com/a-comprehensive-updated-list-of-every-celebrity-linked-1694554276)
fellow EMAW kirstie alley!
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David Miscavige seems like a big time stud.
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Scientology is more believable than most other religions, I will give it that
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http://gawker.com/a-comprehensive-updated-list-of-every-celebrity-linked-1694554276 (http://gawker.com/a-comprehensive-updated-list-of-every-celebrity-linked-1694554276)
fellow EMAW kirstie alley!
All I learned from that link is that Elvis was a super stud
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I guess I'm confused. I always thought Christian Science was a theology. I didn't know there was no actual thing as Christian Science.
I'm sure some people who study Christianity would like to believe they are scientists. They aren't, though.
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I guess I'm confused. I always thought Christian Science was a theology. I didn't know there was no actual thing as Christian Science.
I'm sure some people who study Christianity would like to believe they are scientists. They aren't, though.
they are fiction lovers!
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Christian science is unrelated. They were big in like the 1920's. There are a lot of churches in kc that used to be Christian science
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before the current pope(catholic, i know) christian science just seems like an oxymoron
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before the current pope(catholic, i know) christian science just seems like an oxymoron
Surprised it took 30 posts to get here.
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The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you
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http://gawker.com/a-comprehensive-updated-list-of-every-celebrity-linked-1694554276 (http://gawker.com/a-comprehensive-updated-list-of-every-celebrity-linked-1694554276)
fellow EMAW kirstie alley!
All I learned from that link is that Elvis was a super stud
You need a link to learn that bro? JFC man
I'm with sd, you should go for it eriii and if it doesn't suit you then you should mush it.
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http://gawker.com/a-comprehensive-updated-list-of-every-celebrity-linked-1694554276 (http://gawker.com/a-comprehensive-updated-list-of-every-celebrity-linked-1694554276)
fellow EMAW kirstie alley!
All I learned from that link is that Elvis was a super stud
You need a link to learn that bro? JFC man
I'm with sd, you should go for it eriii and if it doesn't suit you then you should mush it.
Just remember that it costs money to be a Scientologist.
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http://gawker.com/a-comprehensive-updated-list-of-every-celebrity-linked-1694554276 (http://gawker.com/a-comprehensive-updated-list-of-every-celebrity-linked-1694554276)
fellow EMAW kirstie alley!
All I learned from that link is that Elvis was a super stud
You need a link to learn that bro? JFC man
I'm with sd, you should go for it eriii and if it doesn't suit you then you should mush it.
Just remember that it costs money to be a _________________. (fill in religion)
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Not only is the Universe stranger than we think, it is stranger than we can think
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The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you
Deep. And true. Many scientists have come to believe in God after realizing just how miraculous life on earth, the complexity thereof, and the very existence of the universe is.
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I don't think most of them develop religious belief because of complexity, I think it is the question of what came before everything that we know.
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My quotes were from my main guy Heisenberg. He was raised Lutheran and struggled with a lot of things I relate to. He's a quote factory.
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I don't think most of them develop religious belief because of complexity, I think it is the question of what came before everything that we know.
No - it is not just "God in the gaps" - for many it is based on complexity and probability. For example, it used to be speculated that there could be billions of planets in our universe capable of supporting life. That number has dwindled (relatively speaking) as scientists discover more and more conditions they believe are necessary for life. Read this: http://www.wsj.com/articles/eric-metaxas-science-increasingly-makes-the-case-for-god-1419544568 (http://www.wsj.com/articles/eric-metaxas-science-increasingly-makes-the-case-for-god-1419544568) And that's just any life. Intelligent life is even more of a long shot.
I like this quote Albert Einstein, an agnostic (some would say atheist) but who it's hard to deny had at least belief in a higher power...
Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.
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i wonder what god's religious beliefs are
maybe scientology :dunno:
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i wonder what god's religious beliefs are
maybe scientology :dunno:
he hates the gays a ton
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so does scientology!
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Nope, def god in the gaps. I mean, "what came before the big bang?" Is a tough question.
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IF there is a god, what are the chances that I am going to pick the one religion that got it right?
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IF there is a god, what are the chances that I am going to pick the one religion that got it right?
Just cause there may be a god, what makes you think any religion has got it right, that any god would GAF, and that you may benefit or be punished for anything by said god?
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http://gawker.com/a-comprehensive-updated-list-of-every-celebrity-linked-1694554276 (http://gawker.com/a-comprehensive-updated-list-of-every-celebrity-linked-1694554276)
fellow EMAW kirstie alley!
All I learned from that link is that Elvis was a super stud
You need a link to learn that bro? JFC man
I'm with sd, you should go for it eriii and if it doesn't suit you then you should mush it.
Just remember that it costs money to be a _________________. (fill in religion)
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That isn't true.
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IF there is a god, what are the chances that I am going to pick the one religion that got it right?
Well you could just be a deist I suppose. But you should take a serious look at Christianity. Jesus was a pretty amazing man, and if you really stop to consider how unlikely it was, following his death, that Christianity would spread and flourish into the religion it is today, it's a strong indicator that Jesus was divine or at least had some divine intervention.
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I'm sorry, but equating Scientology to Christianity is to equate Captain Ron to The Hunt for Red October.
Atheism is in and of itself a far more pathetic religion then Christianity. All atheists do is substitute government for god. And mere mortals (albeit self interested psychopaths) with limited resources run government. Not very imaginative.
We all inevitably have unconditional faith in some higher being/entity, but monotheism is by far the most superior.
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All atheists do is substitute government for god.
you say some really weird crap
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All atheists do is substitute government for god.
you say some really weird crap
It's by and large true.
As to the "which religion" question. I think most religions are monotheistic, and I would guess in the eyes of the god, it doesn't really matter how you get there.
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We all inevitably have unconditional faith in some higher being/entity,
nope
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I'm sorry, but equating Scientology to Christianity is to equate Captain Ron to The Hunt for Red October.
a fun thing about religions is that the followers of every single religion make fun of the ridiculous magical beliefs of the other religions
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All atheists do is substitute government for god.
you say some really weird crap
I think most religions are monotheistic
:D
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All atheists do is substitute government for god.
you say some really weird crap
It's by and large true.
As to the "which religion" question. I think most religions are monotheistic, and I would guess in the eyes of the god, it doesn't really matter how you get there.
Ok I chose the one that believes the world is sitting on the backs of giant elephants which are on turn standing on the back of a giant turtle which is swimming through the universe.
I should be ok then since it doesn't matter which one I choose.
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We all inevitably have unconditional faith in some higher being/entity,
nope
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All atheists do is substitute government for god.
you say some really weird crap
It's by and large true.
As to the "which religion" question. I think most religions are monotheistic, and I would guess in the eyes of the god, it doesn't really matter how you get there.
Ok I chose the one that believes the world is sitting on the backs of giant elephants which are on turn standing on the back of a giant turtle which is swimming through the universe.
I should be ok then since it doesn't matter which one I choose.
I think you will like terry pratchett if you read far enough in
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I've obtained an e-meter and will provide free auditing sessions to anyone who needs to become clear.
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I've obtained an e-meter and will provide free auditing sessions to anyone who needs to become clear.
do you have to do it in person? can you bring it to fattyfest?
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i have a feeling that erii is a master auditor
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We all inevitably have unconditional faith in some higher being/entity,
nope
Yep.
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We all inevitably have unconditional faith in some higher being/entity,
nope
Yep.
link?
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Go with Mr. C, he will take care of you after leaving the Devil's playground called earth. Ol' Beezelbub will give you global warming for sure.
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My quotes were from my main guy Heisenberg. He was raised Lutheran and struggled with a lot of things I relate to. He's a quote factory.
They are great quotes.
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I mean by now you guys have probably seen this, right? Amazing turnaround time considering the doc premiered less than a week before this aired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOpapeX6Vzs
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Is there a Scientology worship center in Manhattan? And I say go for it! I'd like to meet a Scientologist.
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there is, but the cover is pretty steep
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I'm getting Scientology ads on some webpages now.
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I'm getting Scientology ads on some webpages now.
Find out for yourself, Mrs. Gooch.
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My quotes were from my main guy Heisenberg. He was raised Lutheran and struggled with a lot of things I relate to. He's a quote factory.
Interesting quotes, but did he say them with any certainty?
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http://defamer.gawker.com/report-tom-cruise-is-considering-leaving-scientology-1715749913 (http://defamer.gawker.com/report-tom-cruise-is-considering-leaving-scientology-1715749913)
:frown:
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probably ran out of money
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scientology is no more outlandish than any other major religion as far as their beliefs go. I don't know what the costs associated with it are but the major christian religions are really no different as far as cover charges (less up front cost I guess).
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scientology is no more outlandish than any other major religion as far as their beliefs go. I don't know what the costs associated with it are but the major christian religions are really no different as far as cover charges (less up front cost I guess).
Scientologists and Mormons are the only ones I'm aware of that actually make sure you pay anything.
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scientology is no more outlandish than any other major religion as far as their beliefs go. I don't know what the costs associated with it are but the major christian religions are really no different as far as cover charges (less up front cost I guess).
Scientologists and Mormons are the only ones I'm aware of that actually make sure you pay anything.
the rest guilt their members into doing so, and most have suggested tithe amounts based on income. the pope doesn't crap in a solid gold toilet in a solid gold room within a solid gold city which is its own solid gold country because god gave him a shitload of solid gold.
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Is tithing still necessary in the Catholic Church today?
Tithing is absolutely still necessary in the Catholic Church today. When God introduced the concept of the tithe in the Old Testament He told the Israelites this contribution was necessary from them to support the work of the Levites and the poor in the community. Today our Church still needs our support to pay the expenses and financial obligations it incurs as it operates in a commercial society. Salaries, benefits, insurance, maintenance, utilities and service fees are all expenses that never even existed when Our Lord first decreed that each of us was to give back a percentage of what we have. Additionally, we are still called to care for the poor among us.
“Each year you shall tithe all the produce that grows in the field you have sown…so that the Levite who has no share in the heritage with you and also the alien, the orphan and the widow who belong to your community, may come and eat their fill so that the Lord your God may bless you in all that you undertake.” - Deuteronomy 14:22, 29
Is anyone exempt from the tithe?
Our Lord exempted no one from giving. In the story of the “Widow’s Mite” it is important to note that He did not reach into the Offering box and give the widow back her two small coins. When He multiplied the Loaves and Fishes He asked for all the food that anyone had. Even the Levites or priests of the Old Testament were not exempt from the tithe. Today, although many parishioners are unaware of it, priests are still usually most generous in giving back a percentage of their own small salaries to the parishes in which they serve.
"Give the Levites these instructions: When you receive from the Israelites the tithe I have assigned you from them as your heritage, you are to make a contribution from them to the Lord, a tithe of the tithes…” - Numbers 18:26
When I decide to work towards a tithe, should I be calculating it based on my gross or net income?
When striving to give a full tithe, you should calculate the amount you give back to God based on your gross income. The reason for this is that stewardship calls us to give back to God first, before we take care of any of our own wants, needs or obligations – including our obligation to our government. After all, God should come before Uncle Sam, shouldn’t He? By placing God first – above all other financial obligations – we show how much we love and trust Him. Some people may never be able to reach a full tithe. Others reach that goal and keep giving, knowing that in reality it all belongs to God.
“Honor the Lord with your wealth, with first fruits of all your produce; then will your barns be filled with grain, with new wine your vats will overflow.” - Proverbs 3:9-10
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I mean, read that crap. and I'm not singling out catholics, it was just the first hit on google. one of the funniest things I hear constantly is one faith mocking the beliefs/practices of another faith as being outlandish or perverse without looking at what theirs are without indoctrinated glasses on.
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Well, if I were Catholic, I wouldn't tithe, and they wouldn't do a thing about it. The Mormons would audit me, though. I think the Scientologists do, too.
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Is tithing still necessary in the Catholic Church today?
Tithing is absolutely still necessary in the Catholic Church today. When God introduced the concept of the tithe in the Old Testament He told the Israelites this contribution was necessary from them to support the work of the Levites and the poor in the community. Today our Church still needs our support to pay the expenses and financial obligations it incurs as it operates in a commercial society. Salaries, benefits, insurance, maintenance, utilities and service fees are all expenses that never even existed when Our Lord first decreed that each of us was to give back a percentage of what we have. Additionally, we are still called to care for the poor among us.
“Each year you shall tithe all the produce that grows in the field you have sown…so that the Levite who has no share in the heritage with you and also the alien, the orphan and the widow who belong to your community, may come and eat their fill so that the Lord your God may bless you in all that you undertake.” - Deuteronomy 14:22, 29
Is anyone exempt from the tithe?
Our Lord exempted no one from giving. In the story of the “Widow’s Mite” it is important to note that He did not reach into the Offering box and give the widow back her two small coins. When He multiplied the Loaves and Fishes He asked for all the food that anyone had. Even the Levites or priests of the Old Testament were not exempt from the tithe. Today, although many parishioners are unaware of it, priests are still usually most generous in giving back a percentage of their own small salaries to the parishes in which they serve.
"Give the Levites these instructions: When you receive from the Israelites the tithe I have assigned you from them as your heritage, you are to make a contribution from them to the Lord, a tithe of the tithes…” - Numbers 18:26
When I decide to work towards a tithe, should I be calculating it based on my gross or net income?
When striving to give a full tithe, you should calculate the amount you give back to God based on your gross income. The reason for this is that stewardship calls us to give back to God first, before we take care of any of our own wants, needs or obligations – including our obligation to our government. After all, God should come before Uncle Sam, shouldn’t He? By placing God first – above all other financial obligations – we show how much we love and trust Him. Some people may never be able to reach a full tithe. Others reach that goal and keep giving, knowing that in reality it all belongs to God.
“Honor the Lord with your wealth, with first fruits of all your produce; then will your barns be filled with grain, with new wine your vats will overflow.” - Proverbs 3:9-10
I don't think Christians have to pay any attention to the Old Testament.
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Christians are allowed to do whatever they want, really.
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Is tithing still necessary in the Catholic Church today?
Tithing is absolutely still necessary in the Catholic Church today. When God introduced the concept of the tithe in the Old Testament He told the Israelites this contribution was necessary from them to support the work of the Levites and the poor in the community. Today our Church still needs our support to pay the expenses and financial obligations it incurs as it operates in a commercial society. Salaries, benefits, insurance, maintenance, utilities and service fees are all expenses that never even existed when Our Lord first decreed that each of us was to give back a percentage of what we have. Additionally, we are still called to care for the poor among us.
“Each year you shall tithe all the produce that grows in the field you have sown…so that the Levite who has no share in the heritage with you and also the alien, the orphan and the widow who belong to your community, may come and eat their fill so that the Lord your God may bless you in all that you undertake.” - Deuteronomy 14:22, 29
Is anyone exempt from the tithe?
Our Lord exempted no one from giving. In the story of the “Widow’s Mite” it is important to note that He did not reach into the Offering box and give the widow back her two small coins. When He multiplied the Loaves and Fishes He asked for all the food that anyone had. Even the Levites or priests of the Old Testament were not exempt from the tithe. Today, although many parishioners are unaware of it, priests are still usually most generous in giving back a percentage of their own small salaries to the parishes in which they serve.
"Give the Levites these instructions: When you receive from the Israelites the tithe I have assigned you from them as your heritage, you are to make a contribution from them to the Lord, a tithe of the tithes…” - Numbers 18:26
When I decide to work towards a tithe, should I be calculating it based on my gross or net income?
When striving to give a full tithe, you should calculate the amount you give back to God based on your gross income. The reason for this is that stewardship calls us to give back to God first, before we take care of any of our own wants, needs or obligations – including our obligation to our government. After all, God should come before Uncle Sam, shouldn’t He? By placing God first – above all other financial obligations – we show how much we love and trust Him. Some people may never be able to reach a full tithe. Others reach that goal and keep giving, knowing that in reality it all belongs to God.
“Honor the Lord with your wealth, with first fruits of all your produce; then will your barns be filled with grain, with new wine your vats will overflow.” - Proverbs 3:9-10
I don't think Christians have to pay any attention to the Old Testament.
Is the part about hating gays and the "traditional definition" of marriage in the old or new?
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In 2000 yrs, Hubbard's existence will be revised and vague'ed up enough that there will be no diff btwn him and the beginning ppl involved in Christianity. Jesus just had a head start.
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Catholics do lots of good with that money too. Does scientology do charitable work? I'd be surprised if it was very prevalent.
As an atheist, I feel comfortable stating that scientology is a "worse" religion than many others
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Catholics do lots of good with that money too. Does scientology do charitable work? I'd be surprised if it was very prevalent.
As an atheist, I feel comfortable stating that scientology is a "worse" religion than many others
more than tithithing for works and support and infrastructure and whatever, scientology is worse because you pay for spiritual advancement. your level of spiritual enlightenment is directly related to how much money you give. pay to play.
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Catholics do lots of good with that money too. Does scientology do charitable work? I'd be surprised if it was very prevalent.
As an atheist, I feel comfortable stating that scientology is a "worse" religion than many others
more than tithithing for works and support and infrastructure and whatever, scientology is worse because you pay for spiritual advancement. your level of spiritual enlightenment is directly related to how much money you give. pay to play.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/nyregion/10indulgence.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence
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These are great
http://thedeadauthorspodcast.libsyn.com/chapter-45-part-1-l-ron-hubbard-featuring-andrew-daly (http://thedeadauthorspodcast.libsyn.com/chapter-45-part-1-l-ron-hubbard-featuring-andrew-daly)
http://thedeadauthorspodcast.libsyn.com/chapter-45-part-2-l-ron-hubbard-featuring-andy-daly (http://thedeadauthorspodcast.libsyn.com/chapter-45-part-2-l-ron-hubbard-featuring-andy-daly)
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Catholics do lots of good with that money too. Does scientology do charitable work? I'd be surprised if it was very prevalent.
As an atheist, I feel comfortable stating that scientology is a "worse" religion than many others
more than tithithing for works and support and infrastructure and whatever, scientology is worse because you pay for spiritual advancement. your level of spiritual enlightenment is directly related to how much money you give. pay to play.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/nyregion/10indulgence.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence
yes, true stories
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Catholics do lots of good with that money too. Does scientology do charitable work? I'd be surprised if it was very prevalent.
As an atheist, I feel comfortable stating that scientology is a "worse" religion than many others
more than tithithing for works and support and infrastructure and whatever, scientology is worse because you pay for spiritual advancement. your level of spiritual enlightenment is directly related to how much money you give. pay to play.
:lol:
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Catholics do lots of good with that money too. Does scientology do charitable work? I'd be surprised if it was very prevalent.
As an atheist, I feel comfortable stating that scientology is a "worse" religion than many others
more than tithithing for works and support and infrastructure and whatever, scientology is worse because you pay for spiritual advancement. your level of spiritual enlightenment is directly related to how much money you give. pay to play.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/nyregion/10indulgence.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence
besides those though
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Anyone watching Leah Remini's exposé on A&E called Scientology: The Aftermath (or something like that)? On right now. The Church of Scientology is very butthurt about it.
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She did an ama today and it was pretty boring
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Best decision of my life was joining Scientology
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Watched My Scientology Movie by Louis Theroux a while back.
Really makes them look like bat crap crazy cult guys. Have only seen half of Going Clear, but really reinforces the bat crap crazy.
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Best decision of my life was joining Scientology
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sell me on it
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Just started watching the Leah Remini scientology show. Wow, that is some mumped up crap.