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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: renocat on January 26, 2015, 10:53:06 AM
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I waffle on whether unions are needed. I think yes, but I get raging pissed mad when they get into politics and screw rank and file grunts. My hillbilly ma hated unions especially governmental ones. I can see where some good came from them, but now? Obama is trying to give everyone what unions use to fight for. Immigrants likely will form the International Shove it Up Republicans Wazoo Union.
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Unions are nothing more than lobbying groups, voting blocks, and PACs. There are laws and regulations covering every reason unions were formed in the first place.
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Unions really just seem like frats for the working class.
Have their own house/hall
call each other bro/bopther
binge drink constantly
kids join the ones their dads were in
pay dues
give each other jobs
t-shirts
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Unions really just seem like frats for the working class.
Have their own house/hall
call each other bro/bopther
binge drink constantly
kids join the ones their dads were in
pay dues
give each other jobs
t-shirts
Don't forget wedding venue. Deer Hunter illustrates this well.
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Unions really just seem like frats for the working class.
Have their own house/hall
call each other bro/bopther
binge drink constantly
kids join the ones their dads were in
pay dues
give each other jobs
t-shirts
Don't forget wedding venue. Deer Hunter illustrates this well.
Never heard of bros getting married at the frat.
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Losing skilled labor isn't a great thing, imo. Some unions/industries need reform, yes, but the unions are pretty important, imo.
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Unions aren't a threat. Corporations won!! Like over 20 years ago.
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everyone I know that's in a union makes good money doing crap I wouldn't want to do. My bro-in-law that is a lineman makes CRAAAAAZY money. But he has to climb poles and worry about getting electrocuted and crap. No thanks. :comehere: <-but opposite
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sometimes it can be very hard to fire someone, which can be a good thing.
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sometimes it can be very hard to fire someone, which can be a good thing.
I'm trying to think of an example where this is a good thing. I'm sure there are a few, but I can't think of one.
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sometimes it can be very hard to fire someone, which can be a good thing.
I'm trying to think of an example where this is a good thing. I'm sure there are a few, but I can't think of one.
whistleblowing
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sometimes it can be very hard to fire someone, which can be a good thing.
I'm trying to think of an example where this is a good thing. I'm sure there are a few, but I can't think of one.
whistleblowing
Nobody is sticking around after taking down a company. This is a protection without purpose. Like not being able to get fired for refusing to suck off your boss.
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I generally dislike unions because I feel like I am more valuable to my employer than other people in a similar position.
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sometimes it can be very hard to fire someone, which can be a good thing.
I'm trying to think of an example where this is a good thing. I'm sure there are a few, but I can't think of one.
whistleblowing
Nobody is sticking around after taking down a company. This is a protection without purpose. Like not being able to get fired for refusing to suck off your boss.
Ok
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During my short stints in Government Cheese land I really appreciated walking by the office where the unionized "they filed a grievance" Government employees whittled away the days reading the best literature authors from around the world had to offer. Those fellas had quite a library and they smoked.
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smoking is disgusting :Yuck:
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sometimes it can be very hard to fire someone, which can be a good thing.
I'm trying to think of an example where this is a good thing. I'm sure there are a few, but I can't think of one.
whistleblowing
Nobody is sticking around after taking down a company. This is a protection without purpose. Like not being able to get fired for refusing to suck off your boss.
There are a lot of people out there who will never leave their current position. I don't know if it's just not wanting to take the time to job search, low self esteem, or what. I mean wacky has been recruiting for Brownie Mack College for a long time now. That's worse than sticking around at a company you blew the whistle on.
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sometimes it can be very hard to fire someone, which can be a good thing.
I'm trying to think of an example where this is a good thing. I'm sure there are a few, but I can't think of one.
whistleblowing
Nobody is sticking around after taking down a company. This is a protection without purpose. Like not being able to get fired for refusing to suck off your boss.
There are a lot of people out there who will never leave their current position. I don't know if it's just not wanting to take the time to job search, low self esteem, or what. I mean wacky has been recruiting for Brownie Mack College for a long time now. That's worse than sticking around at a company you blew the whistle on.
It's also possible to really enjoy a job but have safety concerns. I think if someone is whistleblowing a legitimate safety issue, making it hard to fire that person is a very good thing.
Plus many people can't afford to leave a job (or just can't find one).
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People in the private sector have every right to unionize. Public sector unions should be banned. Those principles, at least, seem like common sense.
As for whether private sector unions are a good thing, I think they used to be. They used to serve an important purpose by pressuring employers to treat workers safely and humanely, but those benefits have now largely been supplanted by government regulation. Nowdays, it seems that unions are little more than pyramid schemes, artificially inflating the compensation of those that belong to the club, distributing that compensation based on seniority rather than merit, and discouraging competition outside the club.
Unions claim that they're good for consumers by ensuring quality control, but the free market is the best way to ensure quality control. In reality, unions seem to be a disservice to consumers by decreasing compeition. And, in our increasingly globalized economy, unions seem to be hurting the union members themselves by making them less competitive.
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I have tried to unionize my job several times and by unionize I mean getting together with a bunch of the bros from my office after work and crushing suds and bitching about bonuses.
When you become an owner I call this union busting.
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Unions are so WT/TPT and racist
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TPT?
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Trailer-Park-Trash
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Well, I've both held a card and lived in a trailer.