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Title: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: renocat on January 18, 2015, 10:01:03 PM
Our great brain dead keeper almighty of the ballot box is asking the legislature to pass a bill that will have straight party line voting.  You only would get to vote for everybody in one party.  Kobach says it is to confusing to go line by line on a ballot to vote.  He is upset that many ballots have blank spaces on them where no vote was cast.  Well Mr. Commie Conservative, I left your name blank because I did want to vote for a glory hound egotistical snake.  You should be impeached for wanting to take from us the power of choice at the ballot box - dumbbutt voters or not.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 18, 2015, 10:03:02 PM
He's such a douche.  Come on, Kansas.

Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: star seed 7 on January 18, 2015, 10:15:19 PM
would save precious seconds for all the mouth breathing r voters in this state.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 18, 2015, 10:55:54 PM
Wgaf
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 18, 2015, 10:57:37 PM
I think Kobach is basically proof that Satan actually exists.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: MakeItRain on January 19, 2015, 08:43:21 AM
Iowa has a straight line option. Iowa also only uses paper ballots.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 19, 2015, 09:14:56 AM
They should take party affiliation off the ballots. Would be hilarious
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 19, 2015, 09:16:06 AM
They should take party affiliation off the ballots. Would be hilarious

Yes, they really should.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 19, 2015, 12:09:24 PM
They should take party affiliation off the ballots. Would be hilarious

Yes, they really should.
eff, this would be amazing for all levels but especially easy and effective for local level government.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: CNS on January 19, 2015, 12:37:10 PM
There would be some off the wall ppl getting elected w/o party affiliation.  I mean, old ppl can barely use the elect ballots.  Can you imagine them having to remember a dozen names while getting frustrated with the elect ballots?
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 19, 2015, 01:09:02 PM
There would be some off the wall ppl getting elected w/o party affiliation.  I mean, old ppl can barely use the elect ballots.  Can you imagine them having to remember a dozen names while getting frustrated with the elect ballots?

Maybe they would come to the realization that they probably shouldn't be voting.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 19, 2015, 02:25:47 PM
There would be some off the wall ppl getting elected w/o party affiliation.  I mean, old ppl can barely use the elect ballots.  Can you imagine them having to remember a dozen names while getting frustrated with the elect ballots?

Maybe they would come to the realization that they probably shouldn't be voting.

If a pub suggested this it would be characterized as "voter alienation", for sure.

Pubs would have to up their acorn-y voter registration, absentee ballot, straight-line voting ground game. The dems have a huge advantage in this regard. The dems could just make a cheat sheet for their community organizers to complete to get over the ignorance of their constituency.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 19, 2015, 02:39:20 PM
There would be some off the wall ppl getting elected w/o party affiliation.  I mean, old ppl can barely use the elect ballots.  Can you imagine them having to remember a dozen names while getting frustrated with the elect ballots?

Maybe they would come to the realization that they probably shouldn't be voting.

If a pub suggested this it would be characterized as "voter alienation", for sure.

Pubs would have to up their acorn-y voter registration, absentee ballot, straight-line voting ground game. The dems have a huge advantage in this regard. The dems could just make a cheat sheet for their community organizers to complete to get over the ignorance of their constituency.

I'm sure the pubs would do just that and not miss a beat.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: star seed 7 on January 19, 2015, 02:50:28 PM
100 percent for getting all party affiliation out of politics, including ballots
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 19, 2015, 02:55:07 PM
I can understand party affiliation for positions like senator. There is no need for that with positions like treasurer. A better solution would be to require each candidate to write a bio in 100 words or less and put that on the ballot.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 19, 2015, 08:59:55 PM
I can understand party affiliation for positions like senator. There is no need for that with positions like treasurer. A better solution would be to require each candidate to write a bio in 100 words or less and put that on the ballot.

Might need to do 25 words, because the average attention span of an adult is frighteningly short. Otherwise,  I like it
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: CNS on January 19, 2015, 09:04:07 PM
140 characters.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: star seed 7 on January 19, 2015, 09:16:44 PM
140 characters.

tim would dominate this
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 19, 2015, 09:38:39 PM
140 characters.

@huelscamp: vote 4 me, Cuz I'll tots shred Obamacare and tots cut taxes ROFL # 2nd amendment

@barackO: @blackpeople: fuckthe5-0 @women: free da pill @lbgt: look! I'm for gay marriage now @hispanics: amnesty
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: CNS on January 19, 2015, 09:46:19 PM
That's a tough choice there.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 19, 2015, 09:56:11 PM
I know, the (R) and (D) humanizes this rough ridin' dipshits to the point people can vote for them
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Institutional Control on January 20, 2015, 09:05:35 AM
Municipal and school board elections in Texas do not indicate the candidates political affiliation.  And they don't put their party affiliation on signs and campaign ads.  I just assume they're all Republicans because I'm in Texas.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Skipper44 on January 20, 2015, 09:46:33 AM
140 characters.

@huelscamp: vote 4 me, Cuz I'll tots shred Obamacare and tots cut taxes ROFL # 2nd amendment

@barackO: @blackpeople: fuckthe5-0 @women: free da pill @lbgt: look! I'm for gay marriage now @hispanics: amnesty
:lol: this some great FSD right here
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: star seed 7 on January 20, 2015, 12:31:48 PM
How do you know which republican is more republicany tho
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 20, 2015, 01:06:22 PM
What's the current rule on who gets the top spot on the ballot? Does that always go to the incumbent? Random? Alphabetical?
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: CNS on January 20, 2015, 01:15:33 PM
What's the current rule on who gets the top spot on the ballot? Does that always go to the incumbent? Random? Alphabetical?

Should mix that up too.  Random. 
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Kat Kid on January 20, 2015, 01:16:22 PM
What's the current rule on who gets the top spot on the ballot? Does that always go to the incumbent? Random? Alphabetical?

Should mix that up too.  Random.

Random.  There is a drawing/lottery.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: star seed 7 on March 05, 2015, 11:26:26 PM
http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/prairie-politics/article12610361.html
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: renocat on March 05, 2015, 11:38:11 PM
Klu Klux Klueless.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: star seed 7 on March 05, 2015, 11:40:05 PM
He sure is, renocat
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 05, 2015, 11:45:19 PM
I'm glad he's calling attention to the administration's perverse concept of justice. Should have done it through a personal email account tho
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Asteriskhead on March 06, 2015, 05:49:45 AM
as much as I hate to admit it, the two-party system makes our government more efficient. it also prevents our government from getting some important things done. it depends on what you value, i suppose.

The important thing is that everybody is in agreement that Kobach is quite possibly one of the worst people on the face of this planet.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 06, 2015, 08:31:13 AM
as much as I hate to admit it, the two-party system makes our government more efficient. it also prevents our government from getting some important things done. it depends on what you value, i suppose.

The important thing is that everybody is in agreement that Kobach is quite possibly one of the worst people on the face of this planet.

Most Kansas voters will continue to think he is a better person than whatever democrat runs against him, though.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 06, 2015, 09:56:14 AM
He was pacifying a nutso caller by saying that was "unlikely to happen" but pointed out that the DoJ has already been racially politicized. What's the controversy here? :dunno:
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 06, 2015, 10:04:23 AM
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The same site publicized comments Kobach made in November in response to another caller’s question, in which he would not rule out the possibility that Obama’s executive action on immigration would lead to ethnic cleansing of whites.

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/prairie-politics/article12610361.html#storylink=cpy

What's the controversy here? :dunno:
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 06, 2015, 10:14:43 AM
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The same site publicized comments Kobach made in November in response to another caller’s question, in which he would not rule out the possibility that Obama’s executive action on immigration would lead to ethnic cleansing of whites.

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/prairie-politics/article12610361.html#storylink=cpy

What's the controversy here? :dunno:

I had to look that one up...

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Kobach, a Republican, made the comments on KCMO 710, a Kansas City station, during his regular Sunday night show. Kobach took a call from a man identified as Steve who said that when one culture or race overwhelms another culture it leads to killing or displacement.
 
“Here’s an interesting, not a counterpoint, but an interesting additional point to that, I guess. What protects us in America from any kind of ethnic cleansing is the rule of law, of course,” Kobach said. “And the rule of law used to be unassailable, used to be taken for granted in America and now of course we have a president who disregards the law when it suits his interests.
 
“So while I normally would answer that by saying, ‘Steve, of course we have the rule of law, that could never happen in America,’ I wonder what could happen. I still don’t think it’s going to happen in America, but I have to admit things are strange and they’re happening.”

So again, he's pacifying a nutso caller and telling them he doesn't think it will happen, but he also says that Obama is trampling on the rule of law. I agree with both those comments. Again, what's the controversy?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: star seed 7 on March 06, 2015, 11:46:21 AM
Lol @ ksuw

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: 0.42 on March 06, 2015, 12:26:51 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 06, 2015, 01:35:59 PM
Kobach is like one-half as nuts as Holder, Obama and the rest of the wack jobs on the president's cabinet. They compliment one another nicely.

Given the crap those lunatics have pulled so far, his answer was completely appropriate. If you think Obama isn't above that kind of crap you aren't paying attention or are delusional.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 06, 2015, 01:37:46 PM
Yes, I'm defending Kobach here. Nothing in that statement was in the least bit unreasonable given the context of the question, the response and the politicized state of the DOJ.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 06, 2015, 01:48:22 PM
For a group of people that genuinely believe anyone who opposes the president's agenda does so because of their uncontrollable racism, the outrage over this is particularly LOL.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 06, 2015, 02:36:42 PM
For a group of people that genuinely believe anyone who opposes the president's agenda does so because of their uncontrollable racism, the outrage over this is particularly LOL.

Meh, I'm not so much :lol: as :rolleyes:. This is the same bullshit game of distortion played against radio hosts all the time. Strip away the context of the crazy caller, spin the host's comments into the worst light, rinse, repeat. In both instances he politely disagreed with the caller's suggestion, but HE DIDN'T DO IT WITH ADEQUATE VEHEMENCE for the libtards! :shakesfist: And, as you say, the libtards aren't giving him the benefit of the doubt because they already know he's the devil (for requiring voter ID and opposing illegal immigration).
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Headinjun on March 06, 2015, 02:51:45 PM
"It's already happened " "never say never".

Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 06, 2015, 03:02:48 PM
"It's already happened " "never say never".

"I think it's unlikely" "I still don't think it's going to happen in America".
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: star seed 7 on March 06, 2015, 03:48:54 PM
Nutzo radio callers are the republican base, of course he's going to agree with them
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: CNS on March 06, 2015, 03:53:33 PM
It's a pretty good practice to simply not respond to stupid crap like that.  It legitimizes it. 
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 06, 2015, 04:16:31 PM
Nutzo radio callers are the republican base, of course he's going to agree with them

Part of the base, but I'll take the right wing crazies over the left wing crazies any day.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: CNS on March 06, 2015, 04:23:25 PM
We should leave the two parties with nothing but their crazies and take everyone else to create a third party. 
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Headinjun on March 06, 2015, 04:41:11 PM
[quoete author=Headinjun link=topic=34335.msg1329035#msg1329035 date=1425675105]
"It's already happened " "never say never".

"I think it's unlikely" "I still don't think it's going to happen in America".
[/quote]

The proper response woulda been " hey you racist piece of crap, get off my show!!!!""

Not worming his way around to giving an ounce of credibility to such a ridiculous assertion that is soaked in backwoods bigotry.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 06, 2015, 09:16:06 PM
Oh look! Headinjun with the "racicm" dig.  :Woot:

This type of dialogue is sooo not constructive
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 07, 2015, 08:10:13 PM
We should leave the two parties with nothing but their crazies and take everyone else to create a third party.

That's a nice sentiment but what would it mean in reality? What's the "moderate" position on taxes? Spending? Immigration? Abortion? Energy production? Etc.

One could argue that "moderate" is exactly what we're getting now with the current GOP leadership in Congress, and it's just a continuation of the $pend $pend $pend status quo. I don't consider that moderate - I consider it a disaster.

And what do you mean by "crazy"? I believe a good half of all Democrats are closet socialists/fascists - they would have no place in my party. There's a much smaller fringe on the right i'd exclude - basically the militia nuts and the people who actually believe Obama is Kenyan/Muslim (he's an atheist), but that's my conservative viewpoint. Crazy is in the eye of the beholder.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: star seed 7 on March 07, 2015, 10:53:52 PM
Amazing
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 09, 2015, 08:32:56 AM
We should leave the two parties with nothing but their crazies and take everyone else to create a third party.

That's a nice sentiment but what would it mean in reality? What's the "moderate" position on taxes? Spending? Immigration? Abortion? Energy production? Etc.

One could argue that "moderate" is exactly what we're getting now with the current GOP leadership in Congress, and it's just a continuation of the $pend $pend $pend status quo. I don't consider that moderate - I consider it a disaster.

And what do you mean by "crazy"? I believe a good half of all Democrats are closet socialists/fascists - they would have no place in my party. There's a much smaller fringe on the right i'd exclude - basically the militia nuts and the people who actually believe Obama is Kenyan/Muslim (he's an atheist), but that's my conservative viewpoint. Crazy is in the eye of the beholder.

 :D
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: 0.42 on March 09, 2015, 10:23:58 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2015, 06:22:33 PM
Who knew that with all of Kobach's false rhetoric about democrats having illegal immigrants vote that he would be the one cheating?
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/mathematician-suspicious-of-election-fraud-hires-lawyer-to-force-kansas-to-hand-over-voting-records/
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 22, 2015, 06:29:29 PM
Who knew that with all of Kobach's false rhetoric about democrats having illegal immigrants vote that he would be the one cheating?
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/mathematician-suspicious-of-election-fraud-hires-lawyer-to-force-kansas-to-hand-over-voting-records/

It's not that surprising. The people who complain the most are usually the most guilty.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 22, 2015, 06:29:52 PM
Who knew that with all of Kobach's false rhetoric about democrats having illegal immigrants vote that he would be the one cheating?
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/mathematician-suspicious-of-election-fraud-hires-lawyer-to-force-kansas-to-hand-over-voting-records/

I had heard on KPR that he blocked the release a week or so ago. I'm glad to see that she has retained an attorney.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: puniraptor on September 22, 2015, 08:19:04 PM
Liars trust noone.
Title: Re: Kobach loses his last marble - playing with a 1/4 of deck
Post by: wetwillie on September 22, 2015, 08:29:46 PM
Liars trust noone.

And question everything