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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: A$APCornBall on January 18, 2015, 09:06:21 AM
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So...how can we possibly win this one? Maybe sneak Luis Colon into the game and knock Niang out with a haymaker? Just hoping they come in overconfident and we flex our oscar muscles all over Hilton.
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When you're #1, you get everyone's best shot every game. Comes with the territory.
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Target on back.
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In a way, it sort of bothers me that everyone hates us since we are #1, but I just try and focus on the good parts.
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It will be fun!
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Winning this game would essentially punch our ticket to the dance.
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Iowa St has to win this one at home against the league leaders if they want to stay in this race. All the pressure is on them.
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We're going to get killed.
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We're going to get killed.
Yup
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Two Super Bowl games back-to-back for FloodAggie
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I could see Iowa state coming out flat on Tuesday after their monumental (in their minds) win. If we can capitalize early and build up a decent lead (huge if since we are serially poor starters) we might be able to hang on.
Iowa State is a terrible defensive and rebounding team. I think Naz Long and Monte Morris are in some kind of competition to see who can be the worst defender in cbb history. The key to stopping them is to limit their transition game (make shots and limit turnovers, two things were terribly inconsistent at).
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This game is on too early in the day
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Will Hoiberg have any more washouts from better programs transfer between now and tipoff?
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We win 67-59
:Wha:
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I could see Iowa state coming out flat on Tuesday after their monumental (in their minds) win. If we can capitalize early and build up a decent lead (huge if since we are serially poor starters) we might be able to hang on.
Iowa State is a terrible defensive and rebounding team. I think Naz Long and Monte Morris are in some kind of competition to see who can be the worst defender in cbb history. The key to stopping them is to limit their transition game (make shots and limit turnovers, two things were terribly inconsistent at).
Iowa State doesn't force turnovers, which bodes well for us. They also don't try to oboard much.
However, they will be tough to match and we'll have to hope to shoot/score with them at a high pace which will be difficult in their building.
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I feel like most of our turnovers are not forced, so we should stop being dumb and clean this up.
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I feel like most of our turnovers are not forced, so we should stop being dumb and clean this up.
True. But the fact that Iowa State doesn't steal or force much (and watching them play) implies that they don't exert a ton of ball pressure, which will help us. To be fair, Jevon in the first 10 minutes yesterday was about as bad as I've seen a PG play at K-State, but Baylor's length and pressure are pretty legit.
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I think Naz Long and Monte Morris are in some kind of competition to see who can be the worst defender in cbb history.
that's great to hear, i bet our points will tear them apart.
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I feel like most of our turnovers are not forced, so we should stop being dumb and clean this up.
True. But the fact that Iowa State doesn't steal or force much (and watching them play) implies that they don't exert a ton of ball pressure, which will help us. To be fair, Jevon in the first 10 minutes yesterday was about as bad as I've seen a PG play at K-State, but Baylor's length and pressure are pretty legit.
Jevon completes more passes to the camera man than his own teammates. It was very wtf.
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Iowa State doesn't defend with high pressure, something that we seem to struggle with this year. Most young teams, or teams limited amount of ball handlers do. I think it is a chance for our offense to take a step forward.
I am super concerned with our transition D. This is a good matchup for Nigel. You can tell Nigel's dad was a former NFL DB when he makes a break on a ball in a broken floor situation. Wes will also we super important. Hopefully Nino and Gip but a lot of pressure on their bigs on the boards.
Niang is going to be a problem for us, Nino is going to have to be smart and stay out of foul trouble. Malek probably has the best physical tools to guard Georges, be he would get mentally abused.
Hopefully they have a hangover from their big win, struggle shooting. End of the day, their scoring runs could kill us.
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Will Hoiberg have any more washouts from better programs transfer between now and tipoff?
Foster probs upset we are in conf. :sad:
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:gocho:
I could see Iowa state coming out flat on Tuesday after their monumental (in their minds) win. If we can capitalize early and build up a decent lead (huge if since we are serially poor starters) we might be able to hang on.
Iowa State is a terrible defensive and rebounding team. I think Naz Long and Monte Morris are in some kind of competition to see who can be the worst defender in cbb history. The key to stopping them is to limit their transition game (make shots and limit turnovers, two things were terribly inconsistent at).
Sorry if you actually think morris is one of the worst defenders in the nation than you are an idiot. Morris is our best on ball defender and maybe one of the best in the conference. Do you even watch basketball outside of k st games?
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:gocho:I could see Iowa state coming out flat on Tuesday after their monumental (in their minds) win. If we can capitalize early and build up a decent lead (huge if since we are serially poor starters) we might be able to hang on.
Iowa State is a terrible defensive and rebounding team. I think Naz Long and Monte Morris are in some kind of competition to see who can be the worst defender in cbb history. The key to stopping them is to limit their transition game (make shots and limit turnovers, two things were terribly inconsistent at).
I guess you don't know what "NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK" even means.
Sorry if you actually think morris is one of the worst defenders in the nation than you are an idiot. Morris is our best on ball defender and maybe one of the best in the conference. Do you even watch basketball outside of k st games?
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I could see Iowa state coming out flat on Tuesday after their monumental (in their minds) win. If we can capitalize early and build up a decent lead (huge if since we are serially poor starters) we might be able to hang on.
Iowa State is a terrible defensive and rebounding team. I think Naz Long and Monte Morris are in some kind of competition to see who can be the worst defender in cbb history. The key to stopping them is to limit their transition game (make shots and limit turnovers, two things were terribly inconsistent at).
They won't be flat. Their fans and players don't like K-State, these games have been pretty chippy since oscar came and I'm pretty sure thats because of Gip and Niang.
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I think coming after KU at their place will help some but I still have a hard time picturing a win. I can't imagine us scoring with them.
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:gocho:I could see Iowa state coming out flat on Tuesday after their monumental (in their minds) win. If we can capitalize early and build up a decent lead (huge if since we are serially poor starters) we might be able to hang on.
Iowa State is a terrible defensive and rebounding team. I think Naz Long and Monte Morris are in some kind of competition to see who can be the worst defender in cbb history. The key to stopping them is to limit their transition game (make shots and limit turnovers, two things were terribly inconsistent at).
Sorry if you actually think morris is one of the worst defenders in the nation than you are an idiot. Morris is our best on ball defender and maybe one of the best in the conference. Do you even watch basketball outside of k st games?
If Morris is the best you've got, that would help to explain the #113 overall defensive ranking while giving up nearly 70 ppg.
:lol:
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Morris's A/TO ratio is :love: I enjoy his game very much
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:gocho:I could see Iowa state coming out flat on Tuesday after their monumental (in their minds) win. If we can capitalize early and build up a decent lead (huge if since we are serially poor starters) we might be able to hang on.
Iowa State is a terrible defensive and rebounding team. I think Naz Long and Monte Morris are in some kind of competition to see who can be the worst defender in cbb history. The key to stopping them is to limit their transition game (make shots and limit turnovers, two things were terribly inconsistent at).
Sorry if you actually think morris is one of the worst defenders in the nation than you are an idiot. Morris is our best on ball defender and maybe one of the best in the conference. Do you even watch basketball outside of k st games?
The only people I would even characterize as defenders on your team are hogue and mckay. Your guards are garbage defenders.
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71-51
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More like McKan't. He is going to get Gip'ed.
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Two Superbowls in a row? The only Superbowl game I see this week is Tuesday. KU was a really good warmup for our Farmageddon Superbowl Matchup vs the Wild Wildcats. They'll be ready!!!
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eff guys with first names that start with an s in this thread. Sheesh
#TheWesIsTheFuture
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This crap better be over before #Justified starts.
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As farm kids we used to have turd chucking fights. Very messy, green projectiles and bombs. Usually one ugly winner. This is the type of game we can win. ISU lost in such games to Frank's fightin chickens and the ;schizo bears
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Hey everybody, I want to win this one! :fistpump: :fistpump:
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K-State started at +11.5 has already moved to +10.5. Fast and hard money on cats. I think it is too large. We are just going to kill the pace of the game.
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As farm kids we used to have turd chucking fights. Very messy, green projectiles and bombs. Usually one ugly winner. This is the type of game we can win. ISU lost in such games to Frank's fightin chickens and the ;schizo bears
This is true, and our coach is a turd slinger extraordinaire. We got this.
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Pace will be interesting. They want 70 possessions and we want 60. I'm pretty sure our cute little under 65 points on defense streak we'll end, but we could still win. However, it will take a 1.05 or better offensive efficiency to do it and that could be tough.
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Pace will be interesting. They want 70 possessions and we want 60. I'm pretty sure our cute little under 65 points on defense streak we'll end, but we could still win. However, it will take a 1.05 or better offensive efficiency to do it and that could be tough.
Lucky the don't play high pressure defense, I could see the offense get going against them. Have to hit shots.
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McKay is a hell of a rim protector. We better be up for some jumpers.
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K-State started at +11.5 has already moved to +10.5. Fast and hard money on cats. I think it is too large. We are just going to kill the pace of the game.
I think that we are going to get blown out but I think that line is waaaayyyyy too much. Weird?
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K-State started at +11.5 has already moved to +10.5. Fast and hard money on cats. I think it is too large. We are just going to kill the pace of the game.
I think that we are going to get blown out but I think that line is waaaayyyyy too much. Weird?
no, not weird, it is a HUGE line for a conference game, but we probably will get blown out.
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McKay is a hell of a rim protector. We better be up for some jumpers.
Meh. This team doesn't attack the rim at all.
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In these predictions, it's important to factor in that we own Iowa State in every way.
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can we get a _fan fulcrum thread for isu/ksu or should that one have been done the second kstate let frank walk?
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How did K-State win at OU? Didn't watch it closely enough.
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How did K-State win at OU? Didn't watch it closely enough.
Great defensive scout and made enough plays on the offensive end. Didn't shoot its self in the foot.
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Hey everybody, I want to win this one! :fistpump: :fistpump:
:thumbs:
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They eyes of the conference are upon us tonight.
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This game is basically for the conf champy. Do we win it outright or share?
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This game is basically for the conf champy. Do we win it outright or share?
Great question. Too tough to call at this point. Ask me again after the game, LOL!
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we better shoot like 30 3's tonight. 40?
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:gocho:I could see Iowa state coming out flat on Tuesday after their monumental (in their minds) win. If we can capitalize early and build up a decent lead (huge if since we are serially poor starters) we might be able to hang on.
Iowa State is a terrible defensive and rebounding team. I think Naz Long and Monte Morris are in some kind of competition to see who can be the worst defender in cbb history. The key to stopping them is to limit their transition game (make shots and limit turnovers, two things were terribly inconsistent at).
Sorry if you actually think morris is one of the worst defenders in the nation than you are an idiot. Morris is our best on ball defender and maybe one of the best in the conference. Do you even watch basketball outside of k st games?
phahaha
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This game means way more to them than it does to us. We're everybody's super bowl.
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How did K-State win at OU? Didn't watch it closely enough.
Marcus foster got his daggers out.
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we better shoot like 30 3's tonight. 40?
This will be interesting. In Big 12 play our 3PA/FGA is down to only 20.6% compared to 28.1% for the season. Over his career oscar's teams usually average around 1/3 of the shots from behind the arc. I'm sure part of this is realizing that Foster is the most legit threat, and Marcus is shooting about the same amount of 3s as last year (5.8 attempts per game compared to 6.1 last year). Part of that is also the Cats playing nearly 3 possessions slower per game this year. In any case, until someone else steps up as a legit 3PT threat (which probably won't happen) we'll probably continue to see 3PT attempts down this year. That means we'll have to rely (mainly) on Nino, Gip, Westicles, and Edwards on midrange jumpers or getting to the rim to score besides Foster's shooting.
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This game time is really screwing up my day. :shakesfist:
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denied due to HHH - Happy Hour Hoops :cheers:
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I could see Iowa state coming out flat on Tuesday after their monumental (in their minds) win. If we can capitalize early and build up a decent lead (huge if since we are serially poor starters) we might be able to hang on.
Iowa State is a terrible defensive and rebounding team. I think Naz Long and Monte Morris are in some kind of competition to see who can be the worst defender in cbb history. The key to stopping them is to limit their transition game (make shots and limit turnovers, two things were terribly inconsistent at).
They won't be flat. Their fans and players don't like K-State, these games have been pretty chippy since oscar came and I'm pretty sure thats because of Gip and Niang.
Why do they care/hate ksu so much? Out of all the big 12 schools isu is the one I'm most indifferent about.
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I am a little worried for our players' safety tonight. I mean, how many old Iowans are going to rush the floor and challenge our guys to fights after the refs bail us out over and over? I just don't like the precedent that their fans have set by being thugs after emotional games or the precedent set by Jamie Pollard, not only by siding with the losery fans in blaming others for their own losery products, but for not stepping up security to protect visitors from the overwhelmingly violent ISU fanbase.
I imagine oscar will get at least two use-to-be-Iowa fans in his face tonight ready to scrap.
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I am a little worried for our players' safety tonight. I mean, how many old Iowans are going to rush the floor and challenge our guys to fights after the refs bail us out over and over? I just don't like the precedent that their fans have set by being thugs after emotional games or the precedent set by Jamie Pollard, not only by siding with the losery fans in blaming others for their own losery products, but for not stepping up security to protect visitors from the overwhelmingly violent ISU fanbase.
I imagine oscar will get at least two use-to-be-Iowa fans in his face tonight ready to scrap.
What's your O/U on this scenario?
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Whirl you clone bergers!!
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I'm not feeling great about tonight, but we're pretty much playing with house $ on the road at places like ISU. Win and it's huge, lose, and meh, we were supposed to lose. I think we have a chance. :crossfingers:
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I get super drunk when playing with house money. I would suggest the same to everyone.
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My house money goes to Tito's and Lagunitas
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I am a little worried for our players' safety tonight. I mean, how many old Iowans are going to rush the floor and challenge our guys to fights after the refs bail us out over and over? I just don't like the precedent that their fans have set by being thugs after emotional games or the precedent set by Jamie Pollard, not only by siding with the losery fans in blaming others for their own losery products, but for not stepping up security to protect visitors from the overwhelmingly violent ISU fanbase.
I imagine oscar will get at least two use-to-be-Iowa fans in his face tonight ready to scrap.
What's your O/U on this scenario?
1.5?
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don't even care about this game - all eyes on OSU.
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don't even care about this game - all eyes on OSU.
Yep tonight is a low risk, high reward game (unless we get blown out by 40 or something).
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House money, my ass. We are in first place. We need to win to stay there.
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isu won't be able to guard us, the match ups tell me vegas has the wrong team favored by double digits. the kats win tonight and solidify their vice grip on 1st place in the nation's toughest conference.
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isu won't be able to guard us, the match ups tell me vegas has the wrong team favored by double digits. the kats win tonight and solidify their vice grip on 1st place in the nation's toughest conference.
My thoughts exactly.
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isu won't be able to guard us, the match ups tell me vegas has the wrong team favored by double digits. the kats win tonight and solidify their vice grip on 1st place in the nation's toughest conference.
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Didn't know walls had met backs.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
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Clams gets it.
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Butts/Benches....Walls/Backs....whatevs.
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I wish our uniforms were that shiny. :love:
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Has tv timeouts ever overlapped? Was close there!
Half of isu looks like drake
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Our sets in the last 4 minutes of the game have been horrible. Damn.
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Jevon Thomas folks
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Super Bowl
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pretty decent game by the ksucats
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1 FG in last 8 minutes of the game. Great effort, but damn, our lack of scorers/offense got us again.
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Jevon should never throw the ball inbounds again
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That cop with the slicked back hair :lol:
I guess it is different from the standard over gelled ceaser cut
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This conference sucks rough ridin' ass.
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crap ourselves at the end. Damn
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Weber chokes again. Get him the eff out of town. Sick of this crap.
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1 FG in last 8 minutes of the game. Great effort, but damn, our lack of scorers/offense got us again.
We ran bad offense down the stretch, granted, but not having another shooter killed us. Marcus was good about not being selfish, but we worked the ball for open shots a couple times to guys (Jevon) who just can't shoot.
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Damn it. Missed opportunity.
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How did Weber choke? Really?
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the average age of an iowa state basketball fan is 72
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I never thought I'd see a team struggle more than franks teams at inbounds plays
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That is mystifying and frustrating every game.
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That is mystifying and frustrating every game.
I wish someone could inbounds besides Jevon. Like Westicles.
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Damn it. Missed opportunity.
We had our shot but I'm very pleased how we played. We played OU and Isu dead even on the road and got a split. We have actually played good in 5 of the 6 halves (not 2nd half at Osu)on the road in B12. Gives me some hope not only at Tech/Tcu but games at WV/Tex/Baylor
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Damn it. Missed opportunity.
We had our shot but I'm very pleased how we played. We played OU and Isu dead even on the road and got a split. We have actually played good in 5 of the 6 halves (not 2nd half at Osu)on the road in B12. Gives me some hope not only at Tech/Tcu but games at WV/Tex/Baylor
I lean that way too as an optimist, but we've got to do it now. No excuses left for this team.
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That is mystifying and frustrating every game.
I wish someone could inbounds besides Jevon. Like Westicles.
Yes, I am not sure why we don't correct that. It seems simple enough.
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Damn it. Missed opportunity.
We had our shot but I'm very pleased how we played. We played OU and Isu dead even on the road and got a split. We have actually played good in 5 of the 6 halves (not 2nd half at Osu)on the road in B12. Gives me some hope not only at Tech/Tcu but games at WV/Tex/Baylor
Definitely a huge moral victory for the cats
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No moral victories. Win or lose and nothing in between.
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Oh man! Nino pulling himself up by niang's jersey right before half. Pfft.
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No moral victories. Win or lose and nothing in between.
Yes.
I don't have a problem with being encouraged by a team that is playing much closer to the level I expected before this season. I think this team has improved a ton since that terrible stretch in December, I just hope that awful basketball doesn't cost us a chance at the dance. I think this team is playing and being coached a solid level right now and we can win 10 or 11 league games if this continues.
But of course no excuses at this point, now we have to go out and win a lot of tough games.
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No moral victories. Win or lose and nothing in between.
Yes.
I don't have a problem with being encouraged by a team that is playing much closer to the level I expected before this season. I think this team has improved a ton since that terrible stretch in December, I just hope that awful basketball doesn't cost us a chance at the dance. I think this team is playing and being coached a solid level right now and we can win 10 or 11 league games if this continues.
But of course no excuses at this point, now we have to go out and win a lot of tough games.
No.
I'm :bracketmouse: with a moral victory tonight. We aren't making the tournament but we are playing representative basketball and not embarrassing ourselves. What we thought about this team in the preseason is totally invalid. We are just 17 days removed from seeing just how bad this team can be. Our goals for this season are different. Don't embarrass the school, keep the home court streak alive, NO WEDNESDAYS, and win a couple in the NIT. With that in mind tonight was fine, would have been great to finish but we didn't. I'll take this as opposed to what we've recently been exposed to.
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I'm :bracketmouse: with a moral victory tonight. We aren't making the tournament but we are playing representative basketball and not embarrassing ourselves. What we thought about this team in the preseason is totally invalid. We are just 17 days removed from seeing just how bad this team can be. Our goals for this season are different. Don't embarrass the school, keep the home court streak alive, NO WEDNESDAYS, and win a couple in the NIT. With that in mind tonight was fine, would have been great to finish but we didn't. I'll take this as opposed to what we've recently been exposed to.
I can give you a :thumbs: and a :cheers: on that. We definitely agree much more than we differ at this point.
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Not giving up on the tournament.
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The real post season is still in play. I'm not going to dog this team for this performance, but the 50/50 ball opportunities killed us tonight. Up 4 with 6 to play, Foster shot that NBA 3, that was the game changer to me (he missed). He makes that, we're ballin. This team is playing above their talent and that's all I can ask for. If MIR can't accept 9-3 for K-State football, I'm not giving up on a tourney experience for this team yet.
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The NIT is gross
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The NIT is gross
CBI is worse
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Can't
Ball
Invitational
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The NIT is gross
CBI is worse
This team isn't going to the CBI. :dubious: Huggins and Frank have been to more NIT's than oscar has with this team.
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oscar is an expert at lowering expectations.
That is my main reason for not wanting him as our basketball coach.
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We lost to a team where everyone was JR smith, this isn't good
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No moral victories. Win or lose and nothing in between.
Yes.
I don't have a problem with being encouraged by a team that is playing much closer to the level I expected before this season. I think this team has improved a ton since that terrible stretch in December, I just hope that awful basketball doesn't cost us a chance at the dance. I think this team is playing and being coached a solid level right now and we can win 10 or 11 league games if this continues.
But of course no excuses at this point, now we have to go out and win a lot of tough games.
No.
I'm :bracketmouse: with a moral victory tonight. We aren't making the tournament but we are playing representative basketball and not embarrassing ourselves. What we thought about this team in the preseason is totally invalid. We are just 17 days removed from seeing just how bad this team can be. Our goals for this season are different. Don't embarrass the school, keep the home court streak alive, NO WEDNESDAYS, and win a couple in the NIT. With that in mind tonight was fine, would have been great to finish but we didn't. I'll take this as opposed to what we've recently been exposed to.
Yes, the bball equivalent of 9-3
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K-State's situation reminds me of this ISU team: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/66/year/2005/iowa-state-cyclones
They hit their stride after being 8-8 at one point in the season.
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Can't
Ball
Invitational
:thumbs:
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we can make the tourney as long as we don't lose to TCU or Tech
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we can make the tourney as long as we don't lose to TCU or Tech
This is why I pay for premium
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we could also make it if we sweep ku, texas, baylor and wvu. :dunno:
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we could also make it if we sweep ku, texas, baylor and wvu. :dunno:
Win the 2 I mentioned plus any 4 others and we're good. The strength of the league RPI is A HUGE blessing
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:ROFL:
Not giving up on the tournament.
Me either. Season is huge disappointment if we don't make it. Obviously, if we play 14 or so more games like tonight, we are in easy.
I think ISU is winning the league and going to Final Four. They are just stacked and aren't even playing remotely close to their potential, yet.
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:ROFL:Not giving up on the tournament.
Me either. Season is huge disappointment if we don't make it. Obviously, if we play 14 or so more games like tonight, we are in easy.
I think ISU is winning the league and going to Final Four. They are just stacked and aren't even playing remotely close to their potential, yet.
I don't think they are very good defensively.
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Long time no post. Had a binger after this game to drown how pissed I was. I show up for work and had to work some cognitive behavioral therapy on a client wearing a Cyclones shirt. I almost refused. The effed up teen said the only thing positive in his life are the Cyclones and I asked him if he went to any football games this year. He started crying and I felt victorious.
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Long time no post. Had a binger after this game to drown how pissed I was. I show up for work and had to work some cognitive behavioral therapy on a client wearing a Cyclones shirt. I almost refused. The effed up teen said the only thing positive in his life are the Cyclones and I asked him if he went to any football games this year. He started crying and I felt victorious.
What are the survival rates of patients with passive aggressive therapists? This poor bastard has NO chance.
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:lol:
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Long time no post. Had a binger after this game to drown how pissed I was. I show up for work and had to work some cognitive behavioral therapy on a client wearing a Cyclones shirt. I almost refused. The effed up teen said the only thing positive in his life are the Cyclones and I asked him if he went to any football games this year. He started crying and I felt victorious.
What are the survival rates of patients with passive aggressive therapists? This poor bastard has NO chance.
LOL...who said anything about passive aggression? I was blatantly aggressive on slamming ISU. Emaw to the god damn bone > helping kids.
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Long time no post. Had a binger after this game to drown how pissed I was. I show up for work and had to work some cognitive behavioral therapy on a client wearing a Cyclones shirt. I almost refused. The effed up teen said the only thing positive in his life are the Cyclones and I asked him if he went to any football games this year. He started crying and I felt victorious.
What are the survival rates of patients with passive aggressive therapists? This poor bastard has NO chance.
LOL...who said anything about passive aggression? I was blatantly aggressive on slamming ISU. Emaw to the god damn bone > helping kids.
Has that kid hung himself yet?
Blump - "Send in the next one, I don't give a eff as long as the paycheck clears, go cats."
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Hard to feel bad for the kid. He probably supports Paul Rhoads.