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Title: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Pete on January 10, 2015, 08:32:20 PM
If, IF, this team continues to work together and fight hard.....and IF we make the post season....

....my promise to you ALL, is that I will SERIOUSLY consider attending an NIT home game!  I rough ridin' mean it!!!!
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: star seed 7 on January 10, 2015, 08:39:58 PM
nit is better than nothing
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: CNS on January 10, 2015, 08:41:56 PM
New board name, I guess.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 08:42:53 PM
Gottlieb thinks the NCAAs are still possible with the right wins.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 10, 2015, 08:45:18 PM
Guess what incredibly good looking poster will be sitting next to Pete if he goes?
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: michigancat on January 10, 2015, 08:46:08 PM
Gottlieb thinks the NCAAs are still possible with the right wins.
They are. We really only have one "bad" loss
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: wetwillie on January 10, 2015, 08:46:39 PM
Guess what incredibly good looking poster will be sitting next to Pete if he goes?

Mocat?
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 10, 2015, 08:47:19 PM
Gottlieb thinks the NCAAs are still possible with the right wins.
They are. We really only have one "bad" loss

And the league has lots of good teams, so lots of good wins are available.

In theory if they are really figuring things out, you should be able to beat most teams in this league if you can win in Norman.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 08:48:14 PM
Gottlieb thinks the NCAAs are still possible with the right wins.
They are. We really only have one "bad" loss

Yeah I agree, but its still very hard to believe we are getting there. Tonight is the ceiling as far as how this team is able to play and we've had a lot more clunkers than we've had games like tonight.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Pete on January 10, 2015, 08:48:16 PM

Guess what incredibly good looking poster will be sitting next to Pete if he goes?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F01%2F10%2F008e15fb3a54c83290fde1876912ba77.jpg&hash=d6b7e6754d63d96a63d42f71e7e3e4882519df0c)
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: michigancat on January 10, 2015, 08:50:26 PM
Gottlieb thinks the NCAAs are still possible with the right wins.
They are. We really only have one "bad" loss

Yeah I agree, but its still very hard to believe we are getting there. Tonight is the ceiling as far as how this team is able to play and we've had a lot more clunkers than we've had games like tonight.
We sat Marcus for like 20 minutes, it wasn't our ceiling. But I mean it was a road win against a top 3(?) team in the league
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: CNS on January 10, 2015, 08:52:05 PM
Yrah, we sat Foster, but hurt played forever and was our high scorer, or close to it.  I mean, one pretty much cancels the other. 
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 08:52:34 PM
Gottlieb thinks the NCAAs are still possible with the right wins.
They are. We really only have one "bad" loss

And the league has lots of good teams, so lots of good wins are available.

In theory if they are really figuring things out, you should be able to beat most teams in this league if you can win in Norman.

I don't know if it is about figuring things out, they've been all over the place this year, the 4 game stretch of Long Beach and Maui is indicative of that. That's why I am not at all enthusiastic about following this up because they've been like this all year, it just hasn't been a bad stretch.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 10, 2015, 08:53:50 PM
Yrah, we sat Foster, but hurt played forever and was our high scorer, or close to it.  I mean, one pretty much cancels the other. 

The only way for this team to make the tournament is for guys like Hurt to step up like this. I mean, we need Marcus to play 35 or more minutes most nights and be really good, but the games we got from guys like Hurt, Edwards, and Thomas are going to be necessary most nights as well.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: CNS on January 10, 2015, 08:54:54 PM
I do t know, FAN.  I mean we scored like 60 pts tonight. 
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: wetwillie on January 10, 2015, 08:56:35 PM
I do t know, FAN.  I mean we scored like 60 pts tonight. 

Do you even 'first to fifty' bro
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: pvegs on January 10, 2015, 09:03:39 PM
Gottlieb thinks the NCAAs are still possible with the right wins.

This came up in another thread after the O-State loss. How many wins is realistic to make this happen? I say 18-13, 11-7 in confy would give us a fighting chance.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: pvegs on January 10, 2015, 09:07:18 PM
Gottlieb thinks the NCAAs are still possible with the right wins.
They are. We really only have one "bad" loss

LBSU and Texas Southern are bad. Georgia, Tenn, and Pitt are Power 5 bad. Really only O-State/UA would count as "good" losses in my mind.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 10, 2015, 09:08:18 PM
Probably need 20 wins (including tourney), as a general rule
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 09:09:12 PM
Gottlieb thinks the NCAAs are still possible with the right wins.

This came up in another thread after the O-State loss. How many wins is realistic to make this happen? I say 18-13, 11-7 in confy would give us a fighting chance.

He made it sound like we could with 9-9 or 10-8. We'd have to have a couple of quality road wins. Historically, the committee will give teams that have shown an ability to beat good teams away from home the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 09:10:14 PM
Probably need 20 wins (including tourney), as a general rule

that hasn't been an unofficial milestone in over a decade
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 10, 2015, 09:12:24 PM
Probably need 20 wins (including tourney), as a general rule

that hasn't been an unofficial milestone in over a decade

Unofficial milestone
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 09:18:48 PM
Probably need 20 wins (including tourney), as a general rule

that hasn't been an unofficial milestone in over a decade

Unofficial milestone

I wouldn't think that I would need to point out that it never was an official metric that the committee used, but with you one can never know.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 09:19:13 PM
http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2013/schedule/Villanova

http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2014/schedule/Iowa

Non power conference http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2013/schedule/Boise-State
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 10, 2015, 09:23:31 PM
I officially am aware that teams with less than 20 wins get at large bids, like 1 or 2 a year. I officially think we'd be in a much safer place at 20. I'm officially not commenting at all on whatever sassy bullshit you're whining about, and unofficially think you are a moron that likes to argue with yourself.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: HerrSonntag on January 10, 2015, 09:25:19 PM
Geeze, always so salty in here.  Cats got a big win tonight, enjoy it guys.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: wetwillie on January 10, 2015, 09:26:13 PM
Do post season league tournament wins unofficially count towards the 20 wins if they are played on a Wednesday
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 10, 2015, 09:26:55 PM
Do post season league tournament wins unofficially count towards the 20 wins if they are played on a Wednesday

As a general rule, yes
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 09:27:56 PM
I officially am aware that teams with less than 20 wins get at large bids, like 1 or 2 a year. I officially think we'd be in a much safer place at 20. I'm officially not commenting at all on whatever sassy bullshit you're whining about, and unofficially think you are a moron that likes to argue with yourself.

Those links weren't for you, they were to illustrate what our path is to make the tournament
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 10, 2015, 09:33:03 PM
I officially am aware that teams with less than 20 wins get at large bids, like 1 or 2 a year. I officially think we'd be in a much safer place at 20. I'm officially not commenting at all on whatever sassy bullshit you're whining about, and unofficially think you are a moron that likes to argue with yourself.

Those links weren't for you, they were to illustrate what our path is to make the tournament

Thanks for clearing that up, officially
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Pete on January 10, 2015, 09:39:38 PM

Geeze, always so salty in here.  Cats got a big win tonight, enjoy it guys.


I SAID I WOULD CONSIDER GOING TO AN NIT HOME GAME!  Do you even know how big of a deal that is????
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: The Big Train on January 10, 2015, 09:46:36 PM
Pete in the fOOD  :love:
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: mocat on January 10, 2015, 10:08:15 PM
Guess what incredibly good looking poster will be sitting next to Pete if he goes?

Mocat?

A/s/l ?
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 10, 2015, 10:11:49 PM
I meant me guys
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: The Big Train on January 10, 2015, 10:16:32 PM
Guess what incredibly good looking poster will be sitting next to Pete if he goes?

Mocat?

A/s/l ?

i actually lol'd IRL.  man, those yahoo chat rooms were fun, 18/M/NY
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: nicname on January 10, 2015, 10:21:52 PM
Will be interesting to see the kenpom adjustments
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: star seed 7 on January 10, 2015, 10:27:37 PM
I still talk to some people from yahoo... But that's not really an appropriate discussion for a family blog
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 11:08:00 PM
Will be interesting to see the kenpom adjustments

Didn't he project like 6 or 7 wins? To get to that number you have to win one or two of these.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Trim on January 10, 2015, 11:13:45 PM
When I went to an NIT game, most season ticket holders must not have gotten the tickets because I was over behind the 'cats bench instead of in 17.  So you might end up with pretty great seats, Pete.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: ELL3 on January 11, 2015, 01:51:37 AM
CBI
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 11, 2015, 02:40:24 AM

Geeze, always so salty in here.  Cats got a big win tonight, enjoy it guys.


I SAID I WOULD CONSIDER GOING TO AN NIT HOME GAME!  Do you even know how big of a deal that is????

JACOB PULLEN EVEN SAID HE WOULDN'T DO IT!!!
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 11, 2015, 10:02:38 AM
Will be interesting to see the kenpom adjustments

Didn't he project like 6 or 7 wins? To get to that number you have to win one or two of these.

He was at 5 before last night's win, now at 7.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Pett on January 11, 2015, 10:15:45 AM
CBI or bust. Much better reputation imho
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 11, 2015, 10:21:25 AM
If the Cats somehow go 9-7 (probably 8-8) and 1-1 in KC they'll be in the NIT. 10-8 with the right wins puts us in the NCAA discussion, but probably still out (depending who we beat). 11-7 or better and we are a legit bubble team.

Our OOC was such a train wreck, if we had just turned a couple games (especially the last two at home) we'd be okay right now.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 11, 2015, 10:52:37 AM
CBB is really bad right now if the big xii has the highest rpi. We might be able to ride that smoke and mirror show to the right side of the bubble with 8 or 9 more wins (in aggregate).

With the conference such a mush of mediocre teams, it's not hard to see us winning more than that. We just won in the house of the best team in our conference for God's sake
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: michigancat on January 11, 2015, 11:03:21 AM
If the Cats somehow go 9-7 (probably 8-8) and 1-1 in KC they'll be in the NIT. 10-8 with the right wins puts us in the NCAA discussion, but probably still out (depending who we beat). 11-7 or better and we are a legit bubble team.

Our OOC was such a train wreck, if we had just turned a couple games (especially the last two at home) we'd be okay right now.
It's possible that you're being too pessimistic. Tough to say with any certainty until you see what the rest of the bubble looks like at the end if the year. Like FSD was saying, there's a ton of bad teams this year.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 11, 2015, 11:06:20 AM
Guess what incredibly good looking poster will be sitting next to Pete if he goes?

I would come say hello and exchange high-fives/ fist-bumps.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 11, 2015, 11:06:31 AM
It's possible that you're being too pessimistic. Tough to say with any certainty until you see what the rest of the bubble looks like at the end if the year. Like FSD was saying, there's a ton of bad teams this year.

This isn't said about me too often, but probably true in this case. CBB is having an ugly season though if you like efficiency, etc.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 11, 2015, 11:13:35 AM
I went back and checked, all of our losses (except south Texas state) have been teams with rpi's better than 75 range (pitt, tenn and lbsu), 3 are 38 or better(uga, osu, az).

Unfortunately those ~75 teams are probably doomed to drop because they are hot garbage.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: deputy dawg on January 11, 2015, 11:44:15 AM
Simple:

Did last night turn the corner?
Yes - NCAA
No  -  NIT / CBI

Deputy Dawg is on team oscar, last night was an incredibly big win.  If nothing else, it proves that the Quatz can compete with teams that are likely elite 8.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 11, 2015, 12:39:32 PM
How shitty is CBB if that OU team is E8?
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 11, 2015, 04:16:57 PM
Deputy Dawg is on team oscar, last night was an incredibly big win.  If nothing else, it proves that the Quatz can compete with teams that are likely elite 8.

Are you talking about the elite 8 of the Big 12 tournament?
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 11, 2015, 04:23:50 PM
How shitty is CBB if that OU team is E8?

It's really shitty
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 11, 2015, 08:45:59 PM
 :lol: at OU being an E8 team.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on January 11, 2015, 08:55:41 PM
OU is a really good team, If they improve on the offensive end they will have a solid chance at being an elite 8 quality team. They miss Cameron Clark this year, but I believe they have the capacity to be more efficient on the offensive end. Tashawn Thomas is a good player.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 11, 2015, 09:33:32 PM
OU is a good team. So does that make us lucky or a conference threat? Cats are finally getting there crap together. And it is very fun to watch teams who are projected to win by 10+ points go down by the cats.   :ksu:
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on January 11, 2015, 09:36:24 PM
Either means we were a total wreck or extremely inconstant with a high ceiling.
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: The Big Train on January 11, 2015, 09:37:12 PM
OU is a good team. So does that make us lucky or a conference threat? Cats are finally getting there crap together. And it is very fun to watch teams who are projected to win by 10+ points go down by the cats.   :ksu:

 :D
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 11, 2015, 09:39:11 PM
OU is a good team. So does that make us lucky or a conference threat? Cats are finally getting there crap together. And it is very fun to watch teams who are projected to win by 10+ points go down by the cats.   :ksu:

 :D
does this not make you a little happy?
Title: Re: MY PROMISE TO THE BOARD, AND THE oscar HATERS!!!!
Post by: Fedor on January 12, 2015, 09:17:14 AM
OU is a good team. So does that make us lucky or a conference threat? Cats are finally getting there crap together. And it is very fun to watch teams who are projected to win by 10+ points go down by the cats.   :ksu:
I think the win makes the cats a threat to finish above .500 for the season.