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Title: Electrician cats!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 24, 2014, 09:26:55 AM
Who has access to the NEC 2011 Edition, specifically the part that would prevent a dumbass from fishing/dragging some romex through a wall (and across a nail) to put a outlet above a fireplace for a flatscreen?

TIA
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: CNS on December 24, 2014, 09:32:05 AM
It's been a while since I have been in the NEC,  but unless there is something in there about not pulling romex through closed cavities, this is probably a contractor insurance issue rather than a code issue.
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: CNS on December 24, 2014, 09:32:56 AM
Also, I am pretty sure there isn't anything about not pulling romex, fwiw.
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 24, 2014, 09:36:25 AM
How do you make sure you didn't run it against a nail, strip the insulation?
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: CNS on December 24, 2014, 09:41:23 AM
Good question.  If you sue the elect, you should also track down the guy that put a nail in the wall that didn't embed in the stud.
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
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Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: CNS on December 24, 2014, 09:48:25 AM
For reals, though, adding wire to existing walls will require pulling insulated wire.  Even if they used individual stranded/insulated wire that wasn't grouped together in one jacket, like romex, it still would have the chance of catching that nail unless you open the wall up and run conduit(which would be inconsistent with how the rest of your house is wired, most likely).

Romex, for some reason, has a negative connotation associated with it in a lot of ppls minds.  It is just wire grouped together.  It is a good product for its intended use.  Not a lesser product for residential wiring, for the most part.
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: mocat on December 24, 2014, 10:26:06 AM
flatscreen


is it "high-def"?
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 24, 2014, 10:43:32 AM
flatscreen


is it "high-def"?

Don't muck up my thread
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 24, 2014, 11:04:22 AM
you mean they are just holding it up with a nail?

Romex would be legal, even exposed so long as it is supported properly (think cable staples) and a proper surface mount box was used.
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: star seed 7 on December 24, 2014, 02:49:37 PM
Where was the nail? Just hidden in the wall?
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: CNS on December 24, 2014, 03:16:14 PM
Ninja nail. lying in wait.
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: CNS on December 24, 2014, 03:17:16 PM
This stuff happens.  That is what insurance is for.  File a claim W your insurance, they will chase his insurance.
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: steve dave on December 24, 2014, 03:18:50 PM
Say my sonos needs to have the power cable stuck behind the wall and drug up about 4 feet and come out behind my tv where the power outlet is? I can just punch a hole back there and fish it through and don't need to worry about stupid electrician stuff correct? Because that's what I did and people keep telling me I'm not supposed to do that.
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: star seed 7 on December 24, 2014, 03:39:58 PM
That wire probably isn't rated for in wall use but not really a big deal
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: Trim on December 24, 2014, 05:22:15 PM
Everyone that's posted in this thread is getting subpoena'd along with youtube and smf.
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: CNS on December 24, 2014, 08:47:37 PM
What about the NEC folks?
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: cfbandyman on December 24, 2014, 09:40:51 PM
Who has access to the NEC 2011 Edition, specifically the part that would prevent a dumbass from fishing/dragging some romex through a wall (and across a nail) to put a outlet above a fireplace for a flatscreen?

TIA

Should've asked this on Friday when I was at my desk with my copy of the NEC 2011 and 2014
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 25, 2014, 01:26:39 PM
Where was the nail? Just hidden in the wall?

Yes, I think
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: Pete on December 25, 2014, 01:27:35 PM
It's a Christmas miracle that you and your 6 kids didn't die in an electrical fire last night.
Title: Re: Electrician cats!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 25, 2014, 01:37:37 PM
It's a Christmas miracle that you and your 6 kids didn't die in an electrical fire last night.

God bless us, every one