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Title: BBIQ
Post by: Iceberg on April 14, 2010, 12:38:32 PM
How low of BBIQ can you get get away with and still pull of a middle school bb assistant coaching job? Hoping pretty little.
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Post by: sys on April 14, 2010, 12:41:25 PM
you don't need to know anything.
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Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2010, 12:43:59 PM
talk to _FAN, he's a coach
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Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2010, 12:56:31 PM
Do you know the classic pick up game screen away from the ball offense? 
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Post by: oodfan on April 14, 2010, 01:14:13 PM
http://www.jes-soft.com/playbook/pladribbleweave.html
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Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2010, 01:19:46 PM
Do you know the classic pick up game screen away from the ball offense? 

UPDATE!  IF THEY RUN ZONE YOU ARE SCREWED!   :eek:
Title: Re: BBIQ
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 14, 2010, 01:26:29 PM
Simple overloads work against most zones at that level. 
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Post by: kso_FAN on April 14, 2010, 01:33:35 PM
Sent you a PM.

It doesn't hurt, but it all depends on the head coach and what he expects.

Also, like most levels, if you have good players your BBIQ doesn't matter a whole lot.

Of course part of being a MS coach should be to teach kids how to play the game.
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Post by: CNS on April 14, 2010, 01:58:41 PM
Fundamentals. 

Just be sure to teach the little tikes how to box out.  Lost art.


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Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 14, 2010, 02:00:14 PM
Should start recruting 6th graders, don't be afraid to go into the "bad" neighborhoods.
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Post by: yosh on April 14, 2010, 03:04:47 PM
Most important thing is having a 6'5" nephew/son/cousin willing to transfer.
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Post by: michigancat on April 14, 2010, 03:21:20 PM
work on nothing but ball handling, shooting, post moves, and finishing/layups.
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Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2010, 05:06:21 PM
Teach them the play where the kid gets down and barks like a dog while another kid takes the inbound pass and cashes it!
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Post by: DILLIGAF on April 14, 2010, 05:17:49 PM
I will add to teach them how to use the strongest bone on their body, the elbow, efficiently.  Lost art, they won't need to learn how to box out just yet.    :gocho:
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Post by: Belvis Noland on April 14, 2010, 05:20:56 PM
I'd break down as much Nebraska game film as I could... 
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Post by: SuperG on April 14, 2010, 05:22:48 PM
All I was taught in 8th grade basketball was:

Suicide

Cardiovascular drill that builds leg strength. Begin the drill at one of the baselines and run out to the foul line and then back to the baseline. Then run out to half-court and back. Next, run to the opposite foul line and back. Finally, run the full court down and back. Don't slow down or stop - just keep truckin'.
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Post by: CNS on April 14, 2010, 05:30:06 PM
All I was taught in 8th grade basketball was:

Suicide

Cardiovascular drill that builds leg strength. Begin the drill at one of the baselines and run out to the foul line and then back to the baseline. Then run out to half-court and back. Next, run to the opposite foul line and back. Finally, run the full court down and back. Don't slow down or stop - just keep truckin'.


Worthless without a rule stating that complete the "suicide" in 30 sec or less, or do each one over until you do.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 14, 2010, 05:54:50 PM
Oh if you've got guards of any ability, than run, run, run . .  .and has Mich said, teach ball handling, rebounding and finishing layups.   If you can board, get the ball to a couple of kids who can handle the ball and run, you don't need much of an offense.

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Post by: The1BigWillie on April 14, 2010, 06:42:10 PM
All I was taught in 8th grade basketball was:

Suicide

Cardiovascular drill that builds leg strength. Begin the drill at one of the baselines and run out to the foul line and then back to the baseline. Then run out to half-court and back. Next, run to the opposite foul line and back. Finally, run the full court down and back. Don't slow down or stop - just keep truckin'.


Worthless without a rule stating that complete the "suicide" in 30 sec or less, or do each one over until you do.

Tried this a few weeks ago on a court that was probably only 85 feet or so.  I hit 30 second about 1/4 of the down the court headed to the finish line. I busted my ass too. Never trying that again.
Title: Re: BBIQ
Post by: EMAWzified on April 14, 2010, 08:56:11 PM
Press all the time with your longest-limbed guy hawking the inbound pass. 90 percent MS coaches prolly don't know they can run the baseline after a made basket. Seen it, games can get ugly.
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Post by: bradleigh on April 14, 2010, 09:13:17 PM
Wait.  We're talking about middle school here.  Not 4th graders.  The kids can handle a little complexity.  Don't sell 'em short.  You should be able to coach your way to rough ridin' championships.
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Post by: CNS on April 15, 2010, 08:51:20 AM
Wait.  We're talking about middle school here.  Not 4th graders.  The kids can handle a little complexity.  Don't sell 'em short.  You should be able to coach your way to fracking championships.

I agree.  Used to coach 4th and 5th grade girls.  We had them pressing, running zone sets, posting up, and running the crap out of the other teams.  2 champs in 3 seasons.

I would definitely add some complexity.  Add one or two things that you don't think the other teams are doing just yet.  They can handle it.

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Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2010, 08:54:00 AM
Wait.  We're talking about middle school here.  Not 4th graders.  The kids can handle a little complexity.  Don't sell 'em short.  You should be able to coach your way to fracking championships.

I agree.  Used to coach 4th and 5th grade girls.  We had them pressing, running zone sets, posting up, and running the crap out of the other teams.  2 champs in 3 seasons.

I would definitely add some complexity.  Add one or two things that you don't think the other teams are doing just yet.  They can handle it.



Did you even see my recomendation for the barking dog play in this thread?  Seems like you didn't.
Title: Re: BBIQ
Post by: CNS on April 15, 2010, 09:29:27 AM
Wait.  We're talking about middle school here.  Not 4th graders.  The kids can handle a little complexity.  Don't sell 'em short.  You should be able to coach your way to fracking championships.

I agree.  Used to coach 4th and 5th grade girls.  We had them pressing, running zone sets, posting up, and running the crap out of the other teams.  2 champs in 3 seasons.

I would definitely add some complexity.  Add one or two things that you don't think the other teams are doing just yet.  They can handle it.



Did you even see my recomendation for the barking dog play in this thread?  Seems like you didn't.

I did.  I didn't include it here, because it goes without saying that every middle school coach worth his whistle should run a play that involves the impersonation of some sort of animal as a distraction. 
Title: Re: BBIQ
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on April 15, 2010, 09:42:18 AM
Watch last night's episode of Modern Family and you'll be good.
Title: Re: BBIQ
Post by: Skipper44 on April 15, 2010, 11:20:31 AM
Run the carolina secondary break offense, not too complicated but give kids a little structure and is fun - just play a lot of kids and run, run, run!

http://www.coachesclipboard.net/SecondaryBreak.html (http://www.coachesclipboard.net/SecondaryBreak.html)
Title: Re: BBIQ
Post by: stunz on April 16, 2010, 06:20:17 AM
no-look passes, crossovers, jumpstops, and finishing in traffic
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Post by: Saulbadguy on April 16, 2010, 08:12:24 AM
Run them until they rough ridin' puke. Run them until their assholes are sucking buttermilk.