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Title: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: steve dave on November 24, 2014, 03:08:12 PM
Man, Bolden is just pretty terrible
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Post by: Yard Dog on November 24, 2014, 03:10:12 PM
Im not able to watch at work. How do Nino and Malek look?
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Post by: mocat on November 24, 2014, 03:11:17 PM
Hurt looks very good
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Post by: steve dave on November 24, 2014, 03:11:31 PM
Im not able to watch at work. How do Nino and Malek look?

pixelated
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Post by: Yard Dog on November 24, 2014, 03:12:28 PM
And how did Foster get a technical?? So many mysteries!!
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Post by: steve dave on November 24, 2014, 03:14:04 PM
And how did Foster get a technical?? So many mysteries!!

this Haas guy who's like just an absolute piece of crap like blasted foster in the face and then the refs called them both with t's because they felt bad for that human garbage can frankenstein idiot.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: slobber on November 24, 2014, 03:16:16 PM
And how did Foster get a technical?? So many mysteries!!
Somebody better have Worded that part. I rough riding missed it.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Yard Dog on November 24, 2014, 03:17:11 PM
And how did Foster get a technical?? So many mysteries!!

this Haas guy who's like just an absolute piece of crap like blasted foster in the face and then the refs called them both with t's because they felt bad for that human garbage can frankenstein idiot.

So lame! MARCUS FOSTER IS A SAINT!
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 24, 2014, 03:19:48 PM
True is the best recruit so far. MF is still really good at basketball.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: ksupamplemousse on November 24, 2014, 03:22:18 PM
Man, Bolden is just pretty terrible

He seems pretty decent until someone passes him the ball, which admittedly is a pretty big part of the game.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: michigancat on November 24, 2014, 03:23:51 PM
our help defense is atrocious
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Post by: pissclams on November 24, 2014, 03:24:17 PM
i really like our length on the perimeter, seems like it would  be easier to guard these 3's that dog-do are draining
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: michigancat on November 24, 2014, 03:24:35 PM
I don't know what Jevon is good at
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 24, 2014, 03:27:53 PM
Im not able to watch at work. How do Nino and Malek look?

pixelated
Great post.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Yard Dog on November 24, 2014, 03:28:26 PM
our help defense is atrocious

I am :pray: that is because we are early in the season.
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Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 24, 2014, 03:29:02 PM

I don't know what Jevon is good at
he is good at cleaning up loose balls that other guards cause
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: pissclams on November 24, 2014, 03:31:24 PM
i'm not ready to throw in the towel on jevon, i still hold onto hope that he's going to grow into a pretty good b12 pg
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Post by: j rake on November 24, 2014, 03:31:38 PM
k-state will make it to the tourney and win two games. the future is bright.
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Post by: steve dave on November 24, 2014, 03:32:11 PM
k-state will make it to the tourney and win two games. the future is bright.

man, that would be something
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 24, 2014, 03:32:40 PM
Can they get hurt on this tall eff already?
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: j rake on November 24, 2014, 03:32:55 PM
k-state will make it to the tourney and win two games. the future is bright.

man, that would be something

disregard. i take it back.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: JohnCurrie is Weird/Gross on November 24, 2014, 03:33:35 PM
Gip absolutely saved our ass. Such a stud.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: steve dave on November 24, 2014, 03:33:53 PM
it's an old fashioned big-man-off!
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Post by: Skipper44 on November 24, 2014, 03:34:05 PM
I am intrigued by Malek's length and skills
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Post by: Benja on November 24, 2014, 03:34:25 PM
k-state will make it to the tourney and win two games. the future is bright.

man, that would be something

That would be unbelievable.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: pvegs on November 24, 2014, 03:34:38 PM
I'm missing DJamer right now.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Benja on November 24, 2014, 03:34:48 PM
k-state will make it to the tourney and win two games. the future is bright.

man, that would be something

disregard. i take it back.

oh well crap!
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: ksupamplemousse on November 24, 2014, 03:35:15 PM
I don't know what Jevon is good at

The offense has looked way better with Jevon in the game today. Our lead shrunk significantly when he was on the bench. Seems like a weird day to bitch about Jevon.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Benja on November 24, 2014, 03:35:39 PM
What even goes on at Purdue. Like what even are they
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Yard Dog on November 24, 2014, 03:35:59 PM
Is Foster on the bench? How soon should Weber put him back in?
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Post by: michigancat on November 24, 2014, 03:36:04 PM
I don't know what Jevon is good at

The offense has looked way better with Jevon in the game today. Our lead shrunk significantly when he was on the bench. Seems like a weird day to bitch about Jevon.
But what is he good at?
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Benja on November 24, 2014, 03:37:19 PM
Lol foster omg!
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 24, 2014, 05:16:47 PM
I'm missing DJamer right now.
Yes. This! Bolden is awful. Also, if we go 2-1 on this trip, i'll be pretty content. 3-0 and I'd be ecstatic.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: nicname on November 24, 2014, 05:25:38 PM
I'm missing DJamer right now.
Yes. This! Bolden is awful. Also, if we go 2-1 on this trip, i'll be pretty content. 3-0 and I'd be ecstatic.

Yes, DJamer would be a welcome addition.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Trogdor on November 24, 2014, 05:34:07 PM
Can we do something about Jevon jfc  :facepalm:
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Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on November 24, 2014, 05:35:46 PM
Can we do something about Jevon jfc  :facepalm:
The bad thing is that he is much more bearable than last year
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 24, 2014, 05:41:00 PM
Are you guys watching this Mizzou/Arizona game? OMG! That one guy from AZ does a shimmy before he shoots his FT's.  :love:
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: OK_Cat on November 24, 2014, 05:43:54 PM
What's our record in bruceketballl?
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 24, 2014, 05:46:16 PM
What's our record in bruceketballl?
50-22 for his career. 3-1 for the season.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: OK_Cat on November 24, 2014, 05:47:54 PM
The jake waters of basketball
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 24, 2014, 05:50:45 PM
The jake waters of basketball
TRYING. TOO. HARD.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Trogdor on November 24, 2014, 06:14:59 PM
Can we do something about Jevon jfc  :facepalm:
The bad thing is that he is much more bearable than last year

I dont think so. I feel like this year you rise with the jev, you fall with the jev
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: gatoveintisiete on November 24, 2014, 06:42:31 PM
I would like more Hurt, more Tre, way less Jevon, less nigel, and Foster at the point.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 24, 2014, 06:43:09 PM
Less Nigel would be dumb.
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Post by: scottwildcat on November 24, 2014, 06:52:19 PM
the amount of PT that JT and Nigel are getting seems to be about right to me.
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Post by: gatoveintisiete on November 24, 2014, 07:03:59 PM
If Foster could run point, and edwards could pull his head out and play 2, we could make more Tre-time at 3, since Gip,Hurt,wes, Malek, and Nino will have to combine to hold it down in the paint.  Jevon can't play this much for us to be any good.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: kso_FAN on November 24, 2014, 07:07:15 PM
It's still way early, but I've been very impressed with Tre and Hurt.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 24, 2014, 07:09:37 PM
Nigel looks like a better #2 than Edwards right now. So I don't want that. If you wanna flip flop nigel and foster on the court, that's cool, but I like him too much as a scorer to remove  him.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Kat Kid on November 24, 2014, 07:11:57 PM

It's still way early, but I've been very impressed with Tre and Hurt.

Me too, but they are both big defensive liabilities.  I am worried that oscar has become infatuated with Jevon's hustle on defense. 

I would prefer Nigel get the majority of the minutes and we go for some stretches with tre and foster in there together at the 2 & 3.

Jevon is good at free throws now michigancat.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: chum1 on November 24, 2014, 07:13:26 PM
This team isn't going anywhere until it starts playing a lot of zone defense.
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Post by: kso_FAN on November 24, 2014, 07:13:56 PM

It's still way early, but I've been very impressed with Tre and Hurt.

Me too, but they are both big defensive liabilities.  I am worried that oscar has become infatuated with Jevon's hustle on defense. 

I would prefer Nigel get the majority of the minutes and we go for some stretches with tre and foster in there together at the 2 & 3.

Jevon is good at free throws now michigancat.

Agree with all that.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Kat Kid on November 24, 2014, 07:18:47 PM

This team isn't going anywhere until it starts playing a lot of zone defense.

I think we should just embrace a full court press and/or 2-2-1 trap in to a lot of pressure man.  I have no faith that this staff could successfully implement a zone.  It seems to be against all of their philosophies from oscar to Lowerey to Chet.  They love man.

But I would love if we tried something else because it is going to painful to watch if the defense does not get fixed.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: gatoveintisiete on November 24, 2014, 07:22:03 PM
Foster penetrating and breaking down the defense is the answer, Jt and nigel just can't do it effectively, hell Marcus might not be able to either.  :flush:
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Post by: j rake on November 24, 2014, 07:25:02 PM
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Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on November 24, 2014, 07:26:58 PM
Our offense doesn't look as good when Jevon isn't on court. People need to open their god damn eyes. Jevon and Nigel are going to settle in to vastly different roles because they are vastly different players. Foster can't play a lot point either, his handle is simple not good enough. He is a straight line driver.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: chum1 on November 24, 2014, 07:29:55 PM

This team isn't going anywhere until it starts playing a lot of zone defense.

I think we should just embrace a full court press and/or 2-2-1 trap in to a lot of pressure man.  I have no faith that this staff could successfully implement a zone.  It seems to be against all of their philosophies from oscar to Lowerey to Chet.  They love man.

But I would love if we tried something else because it is going to painful to watch if the defense does not get fixed.

They love man-to-man like they love an early season deep rotation.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: gatoveintisiete on November 24, 2014, 07:30:50 PM
Our offense doesn't look as good when Jevon isn't on court. People need to open their god damn eyes. Jevon and Nigel are going to settle in to vastly different roles because they are vastly different players. Foster can't play a lot point either, his handle is simple not good enough. He is a straight line driver.

Welp, we're effed
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 24, 2014, 07:33:09 PM
Jevon has developed a 15 ft jump shot.  Against the beach and Purdue, he hit about 3 or 4 from the deep elbow.  It's weird.  Much better from there than from layup range.

Quickest guy on floor, gets to the rim with ease.  Probably the worst finisher I've ever seen. 
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 24, 2014, 07:35:57 PM
I forgot to mention that BITB bitched about Foster's antics again after todays game and said: "they're going to be a problem moving fwd for us". Said: "he's acting a little too cocky in his second year and that could come back to bite him. He never acted like this last year!"- KK
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on November 24, 2014, 07:38:40 PM
Jevon has developed a 15 ft jump shot.  Against the beach and Purdue, he hit about 3 or 4 from the deep elbow.  It's weird.  Much better from there than from layup range.

Quickest guy on floor, gets to the rim with ease.  Probably the worst finisher I've ever seen.

He will get it cleaned up, the elbow shot is huge for him forces team to be more honest. We have so many shooters that Jevon doesn't need to be a shooter. He has so much room for growth there is a lot reasons to be excited about him.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: kim carnes on November 24, 2014, 07:41:04 PM
Our offense doesn't look as good when Jevon isn't on court. People need to open their god damn eyes. Jevon and Nigel are going to settle in to vastly different roles because they are vastly different players. Foster can't play a lot point either, his handle is simple not good enough. He is a straight line driver.

Is this guy for real?
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: slobber on November 24, 2014, 08:16:49 PM
I think _Fan is on the fence with Jevon, which keeps me optimistic.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: michigancat on November 24, 2014, 08:20:39 PM
Jevon has had a lot of room to grow for a long time
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 24, 2014, 08:22:37 PM
Harris is a better Harris than Lance
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: catzacker on November 24, 2014, 09:21:48 PM
Jevon has had a lot of room to grow for a long time

I've been told he's the next Rajon Rondo.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: renocat on November 24, 2014, 10:07:49 PM
Purdue is another dead carcass on the side of the road as the Cat juggernaut is hell roaring down the highway squeeshing any stupid varmit in the way.   Kietzman's comments make him sound like a drooling goober.  Marcus scored 24 point, the stud alpha male genitals can only be cocky.  Edwards is playing timid - Gip kick him in the butt and tell him to quit reading the crap articles about his greatness.  Poor ol' Bolden has been pocessed by Krapper the Ghost.  I liked what I heard about the play of Malek and Hurt.  IMO Wes is the gas that fuels our critter killer.  I hope the LBSU game was just a case of needing to pass a big honking turd to get our constitution working right.  Haven't heard who we are playing tomorrow, hope it is the Sandcats, I would love to bury their carcasses in a full litter box.  Go Killer Cats!!!
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Kat Kid on November 24, 2014, 10:20:40 PM

This team isn't going anywhere until it starts playing a lot of zone defense.

I think we should just embrace a full court press and/or 2-2-1 trap in to a lot of pressure man.  I have no faith that this staff could successfully implement a zone.  It seems to be against all of their philosophies from oscar to Lowerey to Chet.  They love man.

But I would love if we tried something else because it is going to painful to watch if the defense does not get fixed.

They love man-to-man like they love an early season deep rotation.

I feel like we are two or three more re-phrases from this being pretty homo-erotic.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 24, 2014, 10:27:51 PM
Is Purdue any good?  Tournament team?  Is long beach a tourney team?
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: The Big Train on November 24, 2014, 11:11:54 PM
Purdue is another dead carcass on the side of the road as the Cat juggernaut is hell roaring down the highway squeeshing any stupid varmit in the way.   Kietzman's comments make him sound like a drooling goober.  Marcus scored 24 point, the stud alpha male genitals can only be cocky.  Edwards is playing timid - Gip kick him in the butt and tell him to quit reading the crap articles about his greatness.  Poor ol' Bolden has been pocessed by Krapper the Ghost.  I liked what I heard about the play of Malek and Hurt.  IMO Wes is the gas that fuels our critter killer.  I hope the LBSU game was just a case of needing to pass a big honking turd to get our constitution working right.  Haven't heard who we are playing tomorrow, hope it is the Sandcats, I would love to bury their carcasses in a full litter box.  Go Killer Cats!!!

renocat, please never change
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Mr Bread on November 25, 2014, 06:22:53 AM
Is Purdue any good?  Tournament team?  Is long beach a tourney team?

They were 15-17 last season and finished all alone in last place in the big 10.  They are probably better this year, but I doubt tournament team better.  Like lucky to make the NIT better maybe.   
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Kat Kid on November 25, 2014, 09:14:46 AM
LBSU is a 12 seed.

Purdue is an opening round (First Four) team or a 12 seed at best/NIT 3 seed at worst.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Mr Bread on November 25, 2014, 10:16:36 AM
Purdue's guards are pretty bad by power conference standards other than Stephens and all he's good at is shootng threes (possibly great at it).  Terone (graduated) and Ronnie (transferred out) Johnson last season were better than what they have now, particularly on defense.  They'll really struggle again in conference.  NIT at best says this dossie hawk. 
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: dal9 on November 25, 2014, 10:32:02 AM
Terone (graduated) and Ronnie (transferred out) Johnson last season were better than what they have now, particularly on defense. 
No way. The Johnsons were net negatives, especially Ronnie, who was a disaster as point guard. Imagine a Jevon Thomas who refused to ever pass the ball. No power conference team would take him as a transfer after he tried to drum up interest at Memphis and UT. Octeus is a clear upgrade. Terone was an undersized SG who could not shoot.  Scrappy guy, but eminently replaceable. I agree with the poster above. Purdue is 12 seed with some luck, top-3 NIT seed without it.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Kat Kid on November 25, 2014, 10:51:34 AM
Purdue's guards are pretty bad by power conference standards other than Stephens and all he's good at is shootng threes (possibly great at it).  Terone (graduated) and Ronnie (transferred out) Johnson last season were better than what they have now, particularly on defense.  They'll really struggle again in conference.  NIT at best says this dossie hawk.

Yeah, Big Ten has potential to get credit as best conference though because:

Wisconsin
Michigan St.

Michigan
Ohio St.
Illinois
Nebraska
Maryland?
Purdue?
Minny?

Man, the Big Ten could be really stacked.  I think there is a distinct possibility that the league gets 7 or 8 teams.  Purdue could sneak in there if they can beat up on the bottom of the conference (which is terrible) and don't crap the bed the rest of the way in non-con.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Mr Bread on November 25, 2014, 12:16:26 PM
Terone (graduated) and Ronnie (transferred out) Johnson last season were better than what they have now, particularly on defense. 
No way. The Johnsons were net negatives, especially Ronnie, who was a disaster as point guard. Imagine a Jevon Thomas who refused to ever pass the ball. No power conference team would take him as a transfer after he tried to drum up interest at Memphis and UT. Octeus is a clear upgrade. Terone was an undersized SG who could not shoot.  Scrappy guy, but eminently replaceable. I agree with the poster above. Purdue is 12 seed with some luck, top-3 NIT seed without it.

Terone shot 35.6% from three last season on 104 attempts.  He and Ronnie were far and away PeeYew's best perimeter defenders and would have been this year too.  Fatt Painter wanted Ronnie to stay, Ronnie chose to leave.  Scorned.   

Octeus? :lol:  Yeah the guy that was the third best player on a crap CSU team is the answer.  He's going to get humiliated in the big 10.        Stephens can't consistently get his own shot in conference and Turdoo doesn't have anyone that can set him up.  Going to be a crap ton of dribbling and passing around the perimeter and then jacking up a bad shot as time expires.  Woof. 

It's going to be rough again, bud.  Gotta get rid of Fatt.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Mr Bread on November 25, 2014, 12:34:30 PM
Purdue's guards are pretty bad by power conference standards other than Stephens and all he's good at is shootng threes (possibly great at it).  Terone (graduated) and Ronnie (transferred out) Johnson last season were better than what they have now, particularly on defense.  They'll really struggle again in conference.  NIT at best says this dossie hawk.

Yeah, Big Ten has potential to get credit as best conference though because:

Wisconsin
Michigan St.

Michigan
Ohio St.
Illinois
Nebraska
Maryland?
Purdue?
Minny?

Man, the Big Ten could be really stacked.  I think there is a distinct possibility that the league gets 7 or 8 teams.  Purdue could sneak in there if they can beat up on the bottom of the conference (which is terrible) and don't crap the bed the rest of the way in non-con.

Purdue isn't good enough to win on the road at PSU and NW.  Maybe Rutgers, I don't really know anything about them other than that they're supposed to be rough ridin' awful. 

I'm really down on Purdue's guards.  Hammons is a lazy fp, tc and that freshman gloid won't be effective in conference.  He'll just foul a lot and look like a rough ridin' idiot constantly. 

You could be right of course, but they were 16–18 (8–10) and 15–17 (5–13) the past two seasons and they didn't add an immediate impact recruiting class or big-time transfer in the offseason.  This is a bad program right now.  After that crap, an NIT invite would be significant improvement. 

They should have fired Painter after last season though.  Back to back losing seasons?  No rough ridin' way. 
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: dal9 on November 25, 2014, 06:55:32 PM

Terone shot 35.6% from three last season on 104 attempts.  He and Ronnie were far and away PeeYew's best perimeter defenders and would have been this year too.  Fatt Painter wanted Ronnie to stay, Ronnie chose to leave.  Scorned.   

Octeus? :lol:  Yeah the guy that was the third best player on a crap CSU team is the answer.  He's going to get humiliated in the big 10.        Stephens can't consistently get his own shot in conference and Turdoo doesn't have anyone that can set him up.  Going to be a crap ton of dribbling and passing around the perimeter and then jacking up a bad shot as time expires.  Woof. 

It's going to be rough again, bud.  Gotta get rid of Fatt.
your take is as stale as a two-week old loaf of rye
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: chum1 on November 25, 2014, 09:08:58 PM
I don't know what Jevon is good at

After watching a full game for the first time, I'd say he is supurb at being on a team with extremely limited options at G/PG.
Title: Re: Purdue Game Analysis
Post by: Mr Bread on December 23, 2014, 09:30:48 AM

Purdue's guards are pretty bad by power conference standards other than Stephens and all he's good at is shootng threes (possibly great at it).  Terone (graduated) and Ronnie (transferred out) Johnson last season were better than what they have now, particularly on defense.  They'll really struggle again in conference.  NIT at best says this dossie hawk.

No way. The Johnsons were net negatives, especially Ronnie, who was a disaster as point guard. Imagine a Jevon Thomas who refused to ever pass the ball. No power conference team would take him as a transfer after he tried to drum up interest at Memphis and UT. Octeus is a clear upgrade. Terone was an undersized SG who could not shoot.  Scrappy guy, but eminently replaceable. I agree with the poster above. Purdue is 12 seed with some luck, top-3 NIT seed without it.

Terone shot 35.6% from three last season on 104 attempts.  He and Ronnie were far and away PeeYew's best perimeter defenders and would have been this year too.  Fatt Painter wanted Ronnie to stay, Ronnie chose to leave.  Scorned.   

Octeus? :lol:  Yeah the guy that was the third best player on a crap CSU team is the answer.  He's going to get humiliated in the big 10.        Stephens can't consistently get his own shot in conference and Turdoo doesn't have anyone that can set him up.  Going to be a crap ton of dribbling and passing around the perimeter and then jacking up a bad shot as time expires.  Woof. 

It's going to be rough again, bud.  Gotta get rid of Fatt.

your take is as stale as a two-week old loaf of rye

Hey dal9, you see where the Toiletmakers have lost three straight including by 31 to Notre Dame and at home to Gardner-Webb(sp?) last night?  They finished the noncon at 8-5, which also inlcuded a loss at home to North Florida (this is a real team, I looked it up). :frown: 

They were 10-3 last season with losses to Okie Lite, Wazzu and Butler.  I'm going to go ahead and drag my sack across your face in recognition of how right I was and what a dumbass wrongaloid you were.  Don't fret, it's super soft.  #youwrongson #heresmysack