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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: CNS on November 17, 2014, 09:38:34 AM
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/17/politics/twitter-republicans-outside-groups/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 (http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/17/politics/twitter-republicans-outside-groups/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)
So, Karl Rove's PAC and a couple others used anonymous twitter accts to post internal polling data in code for the 'pub candidates to use for focusing campaign money as the election was coming close. The coordination of the two is illegal.
I bet absolutely nothing is done other than some laughs and high fives.
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Pretty bad, the bigger concern is the untracked donation money from foreign sources made via the Internet.
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they are both big, illegal, issues. I mean, hit ppl with what you can, even if it isn't everything.
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When you say "illegal" - are you talking about doing stuff that's actually wrong, like the Clintons/Obama accepting millions in donations from foreigners, or are you just talking violating our byzantine restrictions against American citizens engaging in freedom of speech?
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I am talking about the substance of the original post that is a provable violation.
I am up for any politician and any group associated with breaking such laws being prosecuted.
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Right, I'm just wondering if you can explain the policy reason for campaign finance laws the prevent campaigns from coordinating with American citizens who want to spend their money on politics?
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Deflect, deflect, deflect.....
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This sounds made up, dax has assured me that only liberals do this sort of thing
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Deflect, deflect, deflect.....
I'm not deflecting anything. Deflecting would be saying "yeah, well the other side does it, too (and I'm sure they do, but that's not my point)." Feel free to bitch about this - I'll go ahead and concede that they broke the law because I could care less. I believe in the First Amendment right to freedom of speech, so I'm not going to get my panties in a wad when someone violates laws that trample on the Constitution. Do you realize that many of our Founding Fathers wrote some of their most influential work anonymously?
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This sounds made up, dax has assured me that only liberals do this sort of thing
I've never said any such thing.
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Freedom of Speech marginal election wrong doing > Massive Campaign Contribution illegalties
Can't argue with that logic.
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Pretty weak reporting there. Nothing of substance.
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Freedom of Speech marginal election wrong doing > Massive Campaign Contribution illegalties
Can't argue with that logic.
Wut
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This is effectively election rigging, but hey, it's ok because the republicans did it!
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This is effectively election rigging, but hey, it's ok because the republicans did it!
Uh-huh :lol:
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So publicly tweeting out polling data is illegal?
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So publicly tweeting out polling data is illegal?
I think the part where they encoded the data so that it wasn't really made available to the public is illegal, but I'm not really sure.
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some of you aren't taking this very well
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At least own it and proceed with the laughing and high-fiving.
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I admire the cunning.
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I admire the cunning.
yep
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:lol: :cheers: :whistle1:
And I tried to find a Constitution one, but couldn't.
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So publicly tweeting out polling data is illegal?
I think the part where they encoded the data so that it wasn't really made available to the public is illegal, but I'm not really sure.
Maybe it isn't really encoded to someone familiar with polling data? :dunno:
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DNR article but get the gist. Does this setup a battle Royale between Rove and the new AG, because that could be :popcorn:
Pretty ingenious cheat, although I don't understand who was damaged. What kind of fine or cmp are we talking about?
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I'm genuinely surprised at how quickly the pubs caught up and passed the dems with respect to twitter. Obama was tweeting millions in 08 and most pubs were still texting in t9 word.
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Deflect, deflect, deflect.....
I'm not deflecting anything. Deflecting would be saying "yeah, well the other side does it, too (and I'm sure they do, but that's not my point)." Feel free to bitch about this - I'll go ahead and concede that they broke the law because I could care less. I believe in the First Amendment right to freedom of speech, so I'm not going to get my panties in a wad when someone violates laws that trample on the Constitution. Do you realize that many of our Founding Fathers wrote some of their most influential work anonymously?
:Wha:
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So publicly tweeting out polling data is illegal?
I think the part where they encoded the data so that it wasn't really made available to the public is illegal, but I'm not really sure.
Maybe it isn't really encoded to someone familiar with polling data? :dunno:
I saw an article that gave an example of a tweet. It was something like this: 12/20, 38/42, 50/21, etc.
If you were familiar with polling data, knew what order, where, and what the numbers indicated, then yes, you could easily decode it.
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So publicly tweeting out polling data is illegal?
I think the part where they encoded the data so that it wasn't really made available to the public is illegal, but I'm not really sure.
Maybe it isn't really encoded to someone familiar with polling data? :dunno:
I saw an article that gave an example of a tweet. It was something like this: 12/20, 38/42, 50/21, etc.
If you were familiar with polling data, knew what order, where, and what the numbers indicated, then yes, you could easily decode it.
Here is an actual example: CA-40/43-44/49-44/44-50/36-44/49-10/16/14-52-->49/476-10s
I have no doubt that these were only meant for certain people and by doing it via public tweet was a way to circumvent certain rules. But, rules are rules and they were smart enough to find a legal loophole. Good work, GOP.
I'm sure if they bothered to look, they would have found the same type of tweets from Harry Reids' Super Duper pac. They were the biggest spenders this time around.
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is it a loop hole? I get it was posted publicly, but it is gibberish unless you have the coordinated code. The intent is obvious. Is that not legally weighed?
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Drink More Ovaltine
Anybody else?
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is it a loop hole? I get it was posted publicly, but it is gibberish unless you have the coordinated code. The intent is obvious. Is that not legally weighed?
CA-40/43-44/49-44/44-50/36-44/49-10/16/14-52-->49/476-10s
I think if you look at that long enough, it is probably 5 different polls taken on October 16th within California 52nd congressional district. I don't think it needs to be decoded.
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is it a loop hole? I get it was posted publicly, but it is gibberish unless you have the coordinated code. The intent is obvious. Is that not legally weighed?
CA-40/43-44/49-44/44-50/36-44/49-10/16/14-52-->49/476-10s
I think if you look at that long enough, it is probably 5 different polls taken on October 16th within California 52nd congressional district. I don't think it needs to be decoded.
I don't think you are being objective.
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If the democrats did this, the blogosphere would be going nutso and dax/ksuw would already have cute (but probably slightly racist) code words for the entire ordeal
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If the democrats did this, the blogosphere would be going nutso and dax/ksuw would already have cute (but probably slightly racist) code words for the entire ordeal
I would probably just point out the hypocrisy of breaking the very laws they're advocating for. Sort of like wanting higher taxes but dodging them, opposing vouchers while sending kids to private school, ranting about co2 while spewing it from their jets and mansions, etc.
As for code words, I probably just stick with libtard, but now that I think of it, libocrite has a nice ring to it.
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Republicans are the university of North Carolina of political cheating.
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is it a loop hole? I get it was posted publicly, but it is gibberish unless you have the coordinated code. The intent is obvious. Is that not legally weighed?
Didn't the mob use the newspaper in their illegal gaming racquet?
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The people whining about this are the same people who think requiring an ID to vote is oppressive.
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If the democrats did this, the blogosphere would be going nutso and dax/ksuw would already have cute (but probably slightly racist) code words for the entire ordeal
You are so full of Ovaltine!