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So Bob Lutz had this column today and I think it is a good topicand I'm interested to know how others see this. What do you think are Snyder's 10 most gut wrenching losses.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/lutz-blog/article3788299.html
Lutz puts the TCU loss on there, that wouldn't even make my top 25. Here's my top 10.
10. Tie between 2010 Nebraska & 2009 Louisiana Lafayette
9. 2004 Fresno State
8. 2013 NDSU
7. 2003 Marshall
6. 2000 home game against OU
5. 2004 Iowa State
4. 1996 Nebraska
3. 1996 BYU
2. 2012 Baylor
1. I mean, duh
Everyone please share & discuss, it's a bye week
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2010 Nebraska would be a little higher for me and byu cotton bowl would be a little lower. Pretty good though.
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I'd have 2002 Colorado on there somewhere as well as 1995 Colorado in place of Iowa st and NDSU.
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Alamo Bowl
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I'd have 2002 Colorado on there somewhere as well as 1995 Colorado.
Those two would have been next if I extended the list out. If this was a top 20 I would have had either 4 or 5 CU games on there.
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was '95 Colorado when they had rashahn salaam?
good call on '10 neb
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Alamo Bowl
Really? I didn't know people actually cared about that farce.
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was '95 Colorado when they had rashahn salaam?
good call on '10 neb
No, that was in 94. We gave them a good game, but he ripped off several good runs in the second half to keep us from winning.
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was '95 Colorado when they had rashahn salaam?
good call on '10 neb
No Salaam won the heisman in 94. The 95 game was the home game that was back and forth but we couldn't finish it off.
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Alamo Bowl
Really? I didn't know people actually cared about that farce.
Agreed, MIR. After the aTm game, a loss in San Antonio was easy to see coming.
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Losing @KU in '04 is definitely in my top 10.
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There's tons but that's good because it means we care. But there's tons.
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Alamo Bowl
Really? I didn't know people actually cared about that farce.
Agreed, MIR. After the aTm game, a loss in San Antonio was easy to see coming.
Going to the bowl was just an extension of the gut wrench
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2000 championship verses ou
2004 Fresno
2004 ku
2004 cu
1999 nu
1992 ku
All deserve mention; ou 2000 championship has to be in there.
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Alamo Bowl
Really? I didn't know people actually cared about that farce.
Agreed, MIR. After the aTm game, a loss in San Antonio was easy to see coming.
Going to the bowl was just an extension of the gut wrench
Can confirm.
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Losing @KU in '04 is definitely in my top 10.
Maybe I'm being a bit revisionist but I feel like there was a strong possibility the streak would end that night. I do remember the rough ridin' game wasn't televised and I had to listen to the radio & I can't get that emotional huddled around a radio like it was 1938.
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im not a big fan of these kinds of threads but the '12 baylor game was the only one where i woke up with a broken hand and had no idea how it happened
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My rankings for Snyder 2.0
5. 2013 NDSU
4. 2014 Auburn
3. 2010 BYU (bball, because it hurt that bad and Elite 8, Beard, etc.)
2. 2010 Nebraska. (This was the most anticipated game I can remember. Gameday. I hate Taylor Martinez.
1. 2012 Baylor
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My rankings for Snyder 2.0
5. 2013 NDSU
4. 2014 Auburn
3. 2010 BYU (bball, because it hurt that bad and Elite 8, Beard, etc.)
2. 2010 Nebraska. (This was the most anticipated game I can remember. Gameday. I hate Taylor Martinez.
1. 2012 Baylor
GOODness :facepalm:
Winning a game in the NCAA BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT hurt bad? Also there was no gameday for that Nebraska game, it was on a Thursday night.
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My rankings for Snyder 2.0
5. 2013 NDSU
4. 2014 Auburn
3. 2010 BYU (bball, because it hurt that bad and Elite 8, Beard, etc.)
2. 2010 Nebraska. (This was the most anticipated game I can remember. Gameday. I hate Taylor Martinez.
1. 2012 Baylor
Football losses is the topic. :facepalm:
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has there ever been a situation of 2 bigger wasted avi names than #LIFE & WILDCATNATION :facepalm: :flush: :flush: :flush:
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its not KSU wild wild cats related tho, i mean, #LIFE and WildcatNation should represent names of good posters, not ones that embarrass us
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I was almost physically ill walking back to my apartment after the Marshall game in '03.
I remember that pass bouncing off of Dennis' hands at the end of the game.
I'm not sure why that one stuck with me like it did.
I broke a wood baseball bat in my back yard after the loss to CU in '02.
I threw a watch across the room after the Texas loss in '02.
Hmm. I was angry back then.
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its not KSU wild wild cats related tho, i mean, #LIFE and WildcatNation should represent names of good posters, not ones that embarrass us
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Sorry, TBT. Agree with your post, but my original reply was erroneously posted in this thread. You're spot on on this.
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Meant Butler fellas. Same thing.
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its not KSU wild wild cats related tho, i mean, #LIFE and WildcatNation should represent names of good posters, not ones that embarrass us
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Are you under the assumption that you are a good poster?
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its not KSU wild wild cats related tho, i mean, #LIFE and WildcatNation should represent names of good posters, not ones that embarrass us
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EDIT EDIT: i guess nm then :dunno:
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Sorry, TBT. Agree with your post, but my original reply was erroneously posted in this thread. You're spot on on this.
its all good bud :katpak:
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its not KSU wild wild cats related tho, i mean, #LIFE and WildcatNation should represent names of good posters, not ones that embarrass us
EDIT: referencing below
EDIT EDIT: i guess nm then :dunno:
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Sorry, TBT. Agree with your post, but my original reply was erroneously posted in this thread. You're spot on on this.
its all good bud :katpak:
:cheers:
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its not KSU wild wild cats related tho, i mean, #LIFE and WildcatNation should represent names of good posters, not ones that embarrass us
EDIT: referencing below
EDIT EDIT: i guess nm then :dunno:
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Are you under the assumption that you are a good poster?
you done changing your posts? or should i wait?
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its not KSU wild wild cats related tho, i mean, #LIFE and WildcatNation should represent names of good posters, not ones that embarrass us
EDIT: referencing below
EDIT EDIT: i guess nm then :dunno:
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Are you under the assumption that you are a good poster?
you done changing your posts? or should i wait?
All done, chief! Fire away!
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So Bob Lutz had this column today and I think it is a good topicand I'm interested to know how others see this. What do you think are Snyder's 10 most gut wrenching losses.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/lutz-blog/article3788299.html
Lutz puts the TCU loss on there, that wouldn't even make my top 25. Here's my top 10.
10. Tie between 2010 Nebraska & 2009 Louisiana Lafayette
9. 2004 Fresno State
8. 2013 NDSU
7. 2003 Marshall
6. 2000 home game against OU
5. 2004 Iowa State
4. 1996 Nebraska
3. 1996 BYU
2. 2012 Baylor
1. I mean, duh
Everyone please share & discuss, it's a bye week
I'll take a shot, first to mind
10A. Oregon 2012 Fiesta Bowl, 10B. tOSU 2004 Fiesta Bowl
9. BYU 1996 Cotton Bowl
8. Marshall 2003
7. Fresno State 2004
6. Texas 2003
5. Colorado 2001
4. KU 2004. I witnessed the carnage in person. Sickening
3. OU 2000 at home.
2. When Baylor kicked our ass two years ago.
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This might not be an accurate representation of how I feel just the first ones that come to mind. Most are post 2000, which is when I've been to the most games in person.
I cried when we lost to BYU. I was like 13 or something. Shameful crap.
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kick each other's asses, guys
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its not KSU wild wild cats related tho, i mean, #LIFE and WildcatNation should represent names of good posters, not ones that embarrass us
EDIT: referencing below
EDIT EDIT: i guess nm then :dunno:
EDIT EDIT EDIT: :blank:
Are you under the assumption that you are a good poster?
you done changing your posts? or should i wait?
All done, chief! Fire away!
good, quit rough ridin' up MIR's thread
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2012 Baylor (I didn't follow college sports pre-2000)
Everything after halftime was rinsed from my memory. Apparently I ended up face down in my friend's backyard. Woke up on the floor of his basement.
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Losing @KU in '04 is definitely in my top 10.
Maybe I'm being a bit revisionist but I feel like there was a strong possibility the streak would end that night. I do remember the rough ridin' game wasn't televised and I had to listen to the radio & I can't get that emotional huddled around a radio like it was 1938.
I was at that game in 04..... heard lots of "Same old Wildcats" chants on the way back to the vehicle (which made entirely no sense to me but I guess they had to chant something).
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I hope baylor never has anything nice ever.
I still get the rage and the sads every few months thinking about 12.
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I would put the 02 Texas or Colorado game in my top 10
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Texas A&M in 2000 bummed me out. Didn't really hurt us in the grand scheme that season but that loss sort of came out of nowhere.
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a) How does Bob not remember that Ell played the entire game against OSU?
b) I'd use tiers of meaning for the games with less hurt as you go down the tiers.
Losing twice (12 BU, 98 aTm) on the cusp of a NC appearance. 98 will always be the worst b/c we also lost a conference title.
Losing the other Big 12 title game. (00 OU)
Losing huge regular season games when you know your team is a legit contender. (00 OU, 02 UT and CU, 03 UT and OSU)
Losing to lower level teams (Fresno, Marshall, NDSU).
Loses that make you realize your team is good, but not THAT good. (96 NU, 97 NU, 99 NU, 11 OU, 14 TCU)
Big bowl losses (96 BYU, 03 tOSU, 11 Ark, 12 Oregon)
Other notables IMHO. (93 ISU, 95 CU, 01 OU and CU, 04 and 06 KU, 10 NU, 11 OSU, 13 OSU and BU)
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Man, I've been a fan for too long. Instead of 10 gut wrenchers I listed 30. I didn't realize I went that far. :sdeek:
I will say I'm glad that my life as a Cat football fan has that many losses that meant something because that only means there have been lots of wins that meant something too. Lots of great memories and great moments and you remember those more (and they mean more) after you experience some tough ones.
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a) How does Bob not remember that Ell played the entire game against OSU?
b) I'd use tiers of meaning for the games with less hurt as you go down the tiers.
Losing twice (12 BU, 98 aTm) on the cusp of a NC appearance. 98 will always be the worst b/c we also lost a conference title.
Losing the other Big 12 title game. (00 OU)
Losing huge regular season games when you know your team is a legit contender. (00 OU, 02 UT and CU, 03 UT and OSU)
Losing to lower level teams (Fresno, Marshall, NDSU).
Loses that make you realize your team is good, but not THAT good. (96 NU, 97 NU, 99 NU, 12 OU, 14 TCU)
Big bowl losses (96 BYU, 03 tOSU, 11 Ark, 12 Oregon)
Other notables IMHO. (93 ISU, 95 CU, 01 OU and CU, 04 and 06 KU, 10 NU, 11 OSU, 13 OSU and BU)
Did you mean '11 OU?
That sucked.
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Did you mean '11 OU?
That sucked.
Yes.
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The "salute"! :frown: :bawl:
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Being embarrassed by Oregon in the Fiesta. After being embarrassed by Baylor.
2003 Marshall and then the Texas loss and then the OKie Lite loss... all by a touchdown or less.
98 A&M.
Ohio State Fiesta. Ell Roberson is still innocent.
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I only want to talk about Lutz getting beat up by a girl in high school.
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I was more just annoyed than "gut wrenched" by La Lafayette
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RV: 2010 NU, 07 KU, 09 LaLa, 11 OSU, 10 Pinstripe Bowl, 04 Fiesta Bowl, 14 TCU
10. 2013 NDSU
9. 00 OU CCG
8. 97 Nebraska
7. 04 Fresno
6. 04 KU
5. 03 Marshall
4. 99 Nebraska
3. 00 OU at home
2. 12 Baylor
1. 98 aTm CCG
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Not sure I'd put '03 Marshall in my top 10 just because ultimately it had no bearing on the outcome of the season. Losing to OSU and UT pretty much set the ceiling at Fiesta Bowl that year.
BYU was the first time I attended a bowl game. I don't think that the game itself really meant a whole lot but since it was my first time seeing them lose a kick-in-the-nutser in a post season game, i guess it kinda stuck with me. Young _hubs innocence was lost that day. :bawl:
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I hope baylor never has anything nice ever.
I still get the rage and the sads every few months thinking about 12.
we would have played Notre Dame in the title game........Baylor cost us a Natty......think about that
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I started making a list, but I got really depressed halfway through...so I quit.
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2006 KU could be considered one of Snyder's most gut wrenching losses if you think about it
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94 Aloha Bowl wrecked my Christmas that year.
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94 Aloha Bowl wrecked my Christmas that year.
that was such a lame-ass performance........WHAT THE HELL WERE THOSE KIDS DOING OUT THERE ?
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'04 Colorado was pretty bad. Not that the team was going anywhere, but it ended the bowl streak, and I had made the trip there for the game.
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96 Nebraska and 02 CU need to be higher, getting beat by shittastic backup QBs hurts even more
CU could have it's own top 10
10. Pasco Fiasco
9. The multiple times Wooly had strung a couple of wins in conference play together only to get curb stomped by Ricardo
8. '06- :moreira: muffs a punt with 1 minute left in tie game at our 25 yard line
7. '11@CU -McGruder's buzzer beater getting waved off
6. '05-Klatt's hail mary
5. '96 - 2nd coldest game i have ever attended after the Lin Elliot game
4. '01- Physically dominated a Cat team that was still riding the moral victory high after the close loss in Norman
3. 95 - maybe the most gut wrenching home loss I have ever seen in person, prompting this classic postgame troll from Slick Rick "Colorado is still Colorado and KState is still KState"
2. '99 - NU@CU - CU's dumbass kicker missed a 33 yard field goal that would have sent us to destroy UT in the Dr. P
1. '02 - Allowing Robert motherfucking Hodge to throw 3 TD passes cost us a shot at the Dr P
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You have 06 and 05 CU wrong. That was 04 and 05.
Also, football thread.
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Guys, I get kinda bent outta shape about inaccuracies regarding past games and I shouldn't. But my biggest one is when people say Ell didn't play in the 1st half of the Fiesta Bowl. _FAN is right. How does a journalist not get that right? Its pretty easy to find a box score for that game.
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Fresno State '04 was THE most annoying. Pregame, Stan talked about how the Fresno State players were "bullying" and "pushing around" the K-State players before the game even began :horrorsurprise:. We followed that by buying out the next Fresno State game, so I got all these really crappy emails from Jayhawk fans linking me to the Sacramento Bee article making fun of K-State for the buyout.
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i didn't really watch 90s cats and missed the 12 Baylor game #gutsintact
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Guys, I get kinda bent outta shape about inaccuracies regarding past games and I shouldn't. But my biggest one is when people say Ell didn't play in the 1st half of the Fiesta Bowl. _FAN is right. How does a journalist not get that right? Its pretty easy to find a box score for that game.
It's funny, because I read it and thought "that doesn't seem right," but just kind of went along with it, because Bob Lutz should know his stuff, right? Then again, he did mention K-State's 37-7 win over No. 1 Oklahoma in the same article. Maybe I should question authority more.
Side note: It's a little surprising to me how many are listing the '99 game at NU relatively high on their lists. Sure, we were undefeated, and technically right in the BCS title hunt, but I remember Jonathan "The General" Beasley being pretty banged up coming in, and thinking that it might get ugly. Maybe it stung worse than I remember, but it definitely isn't one that comes to mind.
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Fresno State '04 was THE most annoying. Pregame, Stan talked about how the Fresno State players were "bullying" and "pushing around" the K-State players before the game even began :horrorsurprise:. We followed that by buying out the next Fresno State game, so I got all these really crappy emails from Jayhawk fans linking me to the Sacramento Bee article making fun of K-State for the buyout.
So teenage Benja was at that game. I still remember it clearly because it was so weird. We actually had a pick six on like the first series, and then were basically destroyed for the rest of the game. It became pretty clear we were getting punked in our own stadium, with the FSU coaches and players gesturing constantly towards the fans and such the whole game, but k-state people being so salt of the earth and nice, just mostly left early in disgust or sat silently. I remember my dad let an f-bomb fly, which was amazing to me because I had never even heard him swear. Emotional night that 2004 fresno state game was.
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Also, like three different running backs had 2,000 yards on us, and then we hurt their best one on some garbage play towards the end and he was out for like the whole year.
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2006 KU could be considered one of Snyder's most gut wrenching losses if you think about it
:facepalm:
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The 2005 Texas Tech bitch slapping was god awful. It was a WTF moment for the program in general. You kinda wondered if Snyder was on his way out after the season.
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Not sure if it was exactly gut wrenching but I remember being pretty pissed off when we went to Fresno at the end of '07. Win and go bowling. We scored on a long TD run on the first series as I recall...then got pounded the rest of the game.
Also, I think I blocked '04 out of my memory.
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Guys just take 5 seconds to look up box scores. Don't say "I think I remember" about a game. Accuracy people sheesh.
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Guys just take 5 seconds to look up box scores. Don't say "I think I remember" about a game. Accuracy people sheesh.
Shut your beautifully bearded pie hole, jerk.
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Loses that make you realize your team is good, but not THAT good. (96 NU, 97 NU, 99 NU, 11 OU, 14 TCU)
I'd add '01 OU to this list as well. HEY THIS YOUNG TEAM MIGHT BE ON TO SOMETHING THIS YEAR!
Great list though, Fan.
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Loses that make you realize your team is good, but not THAT good. (96 NU, 97 NU, 99 NU, 11 OU, 14 TCU)
I'd add '01 OU to this list as well. HEY THIS YOUNG TEAM MIGHT BE ON TO SOMETHING THIS YEAR!
Great list though, Fan.
True, I couldn't quite include it because our team ended up not being that good. (at least record-wise) All those others occured in 9+ win seasons (hopefully TCU included).
Also, 93 ISU still gets me. Its tougher because it wasn't on TV and it was just really bizarre. Listening on the radio the Cats were seemingly in control (up 17-6), then the streaker, then ISU gives to the FB on triple option the rest of the game and we lose.
It did have one of the most Iowa Statey moments of all time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJiA9Uwb37g#t=63) during the game though.
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Loses that make you realize your team is good, but not THAT good. (96 NU, 97 NU, 99 NU, 11 OU, 14 TCU)
I'm so terrible at these. I'm good at being a fan of a terrible team, and I'm good at being a fan of a really good team, but I suck at being a fan of a pretty good team. I don't know what to do.
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Loses that make you realize your team is good, but not THAT good. (96 NU, 97 NU, 99 NU, 11 OU, 14 TCU)
I'd add '01 OU to this list as well. HEY THIS YOUNG TEAM MIGHT BE ON TO SOMETHING THIS YEAR!
Great list though, Fan.
True, I couldn't quite include it because our team ended up not being that good. (at least record-wise) All those others occured in 9+ win seasons (hopefully TCU included).
Also, 93 ISU still gets me. Its tougher because it wasn't on TV and it was just really bizarre. Listening on the radio the Cats were seemingly in control (up 17-6), then the streaker, then ISU gives to the FB on triple option the rest of the game and we lose.
It did have one of the most Iowa Statey moments of all time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJiA9Uwb37g#t=63) during the game though.
was there ........the band traveled..........all true
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Loses that make you realize your team is good, but not THAT good. (96 NU, 97 NU, 99 NU, 11 OU, 14 TCU)
I'd add '01 OU to this list as well. HEY THIS YOUNG TEAM MIGHT BE ON TO SOMETHING THIS YEAR!
Great list though, Fan.
no, 01 OU created that mojo then CU brought it to it's knees and @TT finished it off
@TT reminds me, I am going to do a top 5 of worst losses listened to on the radio because they were not on TV, this list will begin only with 94 as only a few games in 93 were even on TV. I am including @ULaLa & @CU in 2010 that were available on ESPN3 and Powercat Passport because both feeds were pretty sucky.
5. '01 @ TT - pretty much ended the streak of double figure win seasons
4. '05 @ ISU - Todd Blythe is unstoppable
3. '10 @ CU - I blame Gill's one conference win for this one, had the hawks not scored 35 in the 4th we get to face Cody Hawkins
2. '10 @ ULaLa - Memories of struggling to score on a Sun Belt team make me nervous for next year's trip to UTSA
1. '05 @ NU - Tearrius George (amazing name, frustrating player) gets what Wyatt and Stan called a pretty weak PF for hitting the QB on NU's final drive and allows NU to kick the game winning FG and end our bowl hopes
CF3 - box score nazi away
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'04 Colorado was pretty bad. Not that the team was going anywhere, but it ended the bowl streak, and I had made the trip there for the game.
Actually, I think if we beat CU in 04 and then ISU, we would have won the North.
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Loses that make you realize your team is good, but not THAT good. (96 NU, 97 NU, 99 NU, 11 OU, 14 TCU)
I'd add '01 OU to this list as well. HEY THIS YOUNG TEAM MIGHT BE ON TO SOMETHING THIS YEAR!
Great list though, Fan.
no, 01 OU created that mojo then CU brought it to it's knees and @TT finished it off
@TT reminds me, I am going to do a top 5 of worst losses listened to on the radio because they were not on TV, this list will begin only with 94 as only a few games in 93 were even on TV. I am including @ULaLa & @CU in 2010 that were available on ESPN3 and Powercat Passport because both feeds were pretty sucky.
5. '01 @ TT - pretty much ended the streak of double figure win seasons
4. '05 @ ISU - Todd Blythe is unstoppable
3. '10 @ CU - I blame Gill's one conference win for this one, had the hawks not scored 35 in the 4th we get to face Cody Hawkins
2. '10 @ ULaLa - Memories of struggling to score on a Sun Belt team make me nervous for next year's trip to UTSA
1. '05 @ NU - Tearrius George (amazing name, frustrating player) gets what Wyatt and Stan called a pretty weak PF for hitting the QB on NU's final drive and allows NU to kick the game winning FG and end our bowl hopes
CF3 - box score nazi away
Good call on 05 NU; that was gut-wrenching. A poorly-played game, but would've been our 5th win in 6 games verses NU.
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I think '07 KU is a underrated KITN game, watching KU win in Lawrence was one thing but seeing it in Manhattan really hurt. Also Jordy burned Talib and I though it would be easy.
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'11 @ OSU cost us a Dr Pepper. We led with less than 5 min left and had 3 plays to tie the game from 5 yard line. How is that not top 5???
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I think '07 KU is a underrated KITN game, watching KU win in Lawrence was one thing but seeing it in Manhattan really hurt. Also Jordy burned Talib and I though it would be easy.
Damn, real talk. We were ranked too, and then to watch them go on to 12-1, OB, etc. while K-State all but completely tanked was terrible. Bad times, man. Bad times.
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'11 @ OSU cost us a Dr Pepper. We led with less than 5 min left and had 3 plays to tie the game from 5 yard line. How is that not top 5???
I think a part of it is anticipation going in. I had NO anticipation of beating a team ranked 3rd, on the road, a week after losing by like a million to OU. Gut wrenching for me is expecting, or at least hoping for a win and losing instead. I didn't have much anticipation before that one. The OU game a week earlier was much, much worse IMO
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'11 @ OSU cost us a Dr Pepper. We led with less than 5 min left and had 3 plays to tie the game from 5 yard line. How is that not top 5???
I think a part of it is anticipation going in. I had NO anticipation of beating a team ranked 3rd, on the road, a week after losing by like a million to OU.
This
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'11 @ OSU cost us a Dr Pepper. We led with less than 5 min left and had 3 plays to tie the game from 5 yard line. How is that not top 5???
I think a part of it is anticipation going in. I had NO anticipation of beating a team ranked 3rd, on the road, a week after losing by like a million to OU. Gut wrenching for me is expecting, or at least hoping for a win and losing instead. I didn't have much anticipation before that one. The OU game a week earlier was much, much worse IMO
What were your expectations when we were ahead with 5 minutes left? Mine were winning the game and the conference.
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'11 @ OSU cost us a Dr Pepper. We led with less than 5 min left and had 3 plays to tie the game from 5 yard line. How is that not top 5???
I think a part of it is anticipation going in. I had NO anticipation of beating a team ranked 3rd, on the road, a week after losing by like a million to OU. Gut wrenching for me is expecting, or at least hoping for a win and losing instead. I didn't have much anticipation before that one. The OU game a week earlier was much, much worse IMO
What were your expectations when we were ahead with 5 minutes left? Mine were winning the game and the conference.
Hopeful for a big upset. But the way our D couldn't stop them, I don't think my hopes were ever gonna get too high until we had a 2 score lead.
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We ended the game on the goal line and couldn't score in three chances. That's about as bad as it gets.
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I dunno TC my gut just wasn't as wrenched on that one. I don't know what to tell you
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My guy was somewhat wrenched, TC. I watched it in an old Chicago in freaking Andover with another guy who was vaguely a k state fan, and definitely thought we had it won at the end.
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towniecat that one was very frustrating to me too, im lucky my apartment closet door wasnt very hard or i may have had 2 broken hand games
also those plays at the goal line were probably the most upset i have ever been at situational play calling, just absolutely rough ridin' awful
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1 – 98 ATM
2 – 12 Baylor
3 – 00 OU (B12C)
4 – 00 OU (home)
5 – 02 CU
6 – 02 UT
I don’t feel like any of the above need any explanation
7 – 04 ISU – I cannot stand ISU, we were up like 14 points in the 4th qtr, Sproles’ last game….it was absurd
8 – 07 KU – It was really tough to take because we had all the momentum going into half and then Freems gets picked, they were a farce, but we weren't that good
9 – 11 OSU – so…close
10 – 07 MU – I put this one on here because after Chase and Maclin got done running a train on our secondary and the game was over, MU players were walking off the field and the KSU students began chanting “beat ku”. It was, to me, the all time low of the prince era.
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aside from the obvious one these (not the worst losses just the most gut-wrenching for some reason)
pinstripe salute
2002 texas (missed extra point and fg if I am remembering the right game)
2000 "thank god we stole their coaches" comment from sooners following game in MHK
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'97 Nebraska @ Missouri might be in my top 10 most gutwrenching losses for the cats
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I wasn't really a die hard KSU football fan before I came to school here, so while I remember '00 OU, '98 A&M, being disappointing, they weren't really gut wrenching for me personally. Here's my most gut wrenchiest losses.
1. 12 Baylor
2. 03 Marshall
3. 02 Colorado
4. 11 OU
5. 04 Kansas
6. 02 Texas
7. 03 Texas
8. 07 Kansas
9. 10 Nebraska
10. 04 Colorado
I dunno but Bowl games don't wrench my gut quite like a regular season game does. Even the Fiesta Bowls. 05 Colorado, 06 Kansas, 07 Missouri (agree with zacker on this, it was a low moment), 04 Fresno, 05 Nebraska, 09 Nebraska, 13 NDSU, etc were all sad factories also.
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'97 Nebraska @ Missouri might be in my top 10 most gutwrenching losses for the cats
actually n/m for some stupid reason i thought had nub lost that game that we would have been in the championship game but they still would have gotten the tie breaker anyway. Looking things up is fine, but i'd much rather just try to recall how i felt about something that happened almost 20 years ago
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'97 Nebraska @ Missouri might be in my top 10 most gutwrenching losses for the cats
actually n/m for some stupid reason i thought had nub lost that game that we would have been in the championship game but they still would have gotten the tie breaker anyway. Looking things up is fine, but i'd much rather just try to recall how i felt about something that happened almost 20 years ago
my number 2 -http://www.denverpost.com/ci_16706707 (http://www.denverpost.com/ci_16706707) in the CU only list is the only time we shoulda/coulda backdoored a spot in the championship game
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Today Lutz has the 10 biggest wins but for some reason that doesn't really interest me nearly as much, what does this say about me?
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Today Lutz has the 10 biggest wins but for some reason that doesn't really interest me nearly as much, what does this say about me?
A lot since you apparently follow Bob Lutz.
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I wasn't really a die hard KSU football fan before I came to school here, so while I remember '00 OU, '98 A&M, being disappointing, they weren't really gut wrenching for me personally. Here's my most gut wrenchiest losses.
1. 12 Baylor
2. 03 Marshall
3. 02 Colorado
4. 11 OU
5. 04 Kansas
6. 02 Texas
7. 03 Texas
8. 07 Kansas
9. 10 Nebraska
10. 04 Colorado
I dunno but Bowl games don't wrench my gut quite like a regular season game does. Even the Fiesta Bowls. 05 Colorado, 06 Kansas, 07 Missouri (agree with zacker on this, it was a low moment), 04 Fresno, 05 Nebraska, 09 Nebraska, 13 NDSU, etc were all sad factories also.
I'm kinda in the same boat, granted I wasn't in school until '07, but I didn't follow the 'cats until '00. My list would be:
1. '12 Baylor, for obvious reasons
2. '00 OU (champ game), while the second loss to OU that year, it was the first time I really had my will for the cats thwarted, and it hurt bad
3. '10 Nebraska, by far the worst I ever felt after a game I attended, even if the game ended up being meaningless.
4. '11 OU, undefeated at that point, competitive first half, and then totally crapped the bed in the second half.
5. '07 Kansas, totally ruined my mood for Prince, the season, and why I don't awfully care if they keep having 3-9 seasons for the next 20 years, TSC be damned, also when I realized I don't care how talented JFree was he was an awful decision maker.
6. '03 Marshall, felt like how I felt after the NDSU game, but way worse.
7. '07 Missouri, cheering for them to beat ku looked and felt awful, maybe the most visible low point for Prince, but to me the back to back 40+ losses or w/e to OU and TT in '08 were the low point in terms of the program. That and getting blown out by KU in Lawrence.
8. '02 Texas, at least the Auburn game made that kicking choke job look not as bad, but still.
9. '03 Texas, dat fumble.
10. '13 NDSU, hate seeing some lowly team beat us, at home, and revel in it. And the fireworks at the end just make it all seem like a joke and im sure those NDSU fans thought it was the greatest night of their lives.
And it doesn't count as gut wrenching but '08 Kansas was awful, I turned it off like halfway through the second quarter, earliest I ever stopped caring about the KSU game ever. '11 OSU game was gut wrenching to lose ultimately, but it doesn't make the list, I never thought we'd had a chance and the fact we ended up 5 yards of at least tying and if not winning off a 2 point conversion makes it my favorite game we lost, which is not really much but it was a fun game, lots of back and forth, and high drama.
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'97 Nebraska @ Missouri might be in my top 10 most gutwrenching losses for the cats
actually n/m for some stupid reason i thought had nub lost that game that we would have been in the championship game but they still would have gotten the tie breaker anyway. Looking things up is fine, but i'd much rather just try to recall how i felt about something that happened almost 20 years ago
my number 2 -http://www.denverpost.com/ci_16706707 (http://www.denverpost.com/ci_16706707) in the CU only list is the only time we shoulda/coulda backdoored a spot in the championship game
Oh yeah maybe that's the game I'm thinking of. Needed nub to lose and they almost did. Sounds right.
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1 – 98 ATM
2 – 12 Baylor
3 – 00 OU (B12C)
4 – 00 OU (home)
5 – 02 CU
6 – 02 UT
I don’t feel like any of the above need any explanation
7 – 04 ISU – I cannot stand ISU, we were up like 14 points in the 4th qtr, Sproles’ last game….it was absurd
8 – 07 KU – It was really tough to take because we had all the momentum going into half and then Freems gets picked, they were a farce, but we weren't that good
9 – 11 OSU – so…close
10 – 07 MU – I put this one on here because after Chase and Maclin got done running a train on our secondary and the game was over, MU players were walking off the field and the KSU students began chanting “beat ku”. It was, to me, the all time low of the prince era.
if i spent an hour going back and trying to think i'd end up with something pretty much exactly like this but without that isu game. i absolutely don't get people including bowl games. so weird.
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Bowl games are about getting there. Nothing really that gut wrenching about losing them. I guess if we had lost 1 of the Fiesta Bowls in the way we lost the Pinstripe Bowl, my gut might have wrenched a bit.
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11 osu was definitely the most fun loss I can remember
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Let me preface this with an "I'm not gE'ing here"...
The Marshall game... :dunno: Can someone fill me in? It wasn't the Pennington/Moss Miracle years, wtf happened? (I don't mean to dredge up painful memories, just not knowledgeable about this game)
PI's welcome and expected, given the ranking of guts wrenched from the outcome.
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It was just a really goddammit loss iirc
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Let me preface this with an "I'm not gE'ing here"...
The Marshall game... :dunno: Can someone fill me in? It wasn't the Pennington/Moss Miracle years, wtf happened? (I don't mean to dredge up painful memories, just not knowledgeable about this game)
PI's welcome and expected, given the ranking of guts wrenched from the outcome.
2003:
We started out the year top 5, expected to compete for the ship. Our stud QB Ell Roberson got injured in game 3 vs. McNeese state, and didn't play in game 5 vs. Marshall. (we had 5 freaking non-con games, and a conference championship, and a bowl game. 15 game season wow.). Not Chad Pennington year. Marshall ran the ball down our throats, and our back up QB, Jeff Schwinn, was maybe the worst backup OAT and had several bad turnovers. We had a chance to tie at the end, but pass incomplete in the end zone as time expired. We lost 27-20 essentially ending NC hopes.
Just a very bad upset, without our QB, to a mid major at home.
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Let me preface this with an "I'm not gE'ing here"...
The Marshall game... :dunno: Can someone fill me in? It wasn't the Pennington/Moss Miracle years, wtf happened? (I don't mean to dredge up painful memories, just not knowledgeable about this game)
PI's welcome and expected, given the ranking of guts wrenched from the outcome.
Ell Roberson was hurt and we had no depth at QB; walk-on QB had 3 TOs including a fumbled pitch that Marshall returned 84 yards for a TD. It was ugly.
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Man a 5 game non-con schedule was really stupid.
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I'm enjoying Gooch vs. Lutz.
Not football, but Spring '12 #StrutNCut loss in the 'ship game should be on lists.
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I cried after 02 Texas.
Why can't we g- :sniff: :sniff: why can't we get a kicker-errrrrrr?!
:Crybaby:
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schwinn ran 21 times for 32 yards in that game. just think about that for a second. also, ell could have played. he was healthy enough but instead of playing ell, the staff just used the same design and insert jeff rough ridin' schwinn instead and then give him the ball more times than darren freaking sproles. wrap your brains around any of that for a second.
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i dont want to RD, it will just make me feel like even more crap about that game :frown:
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schwinn ran 21 times for 32 yards in that game. just think about that for a second. also, ell could have played. he was healthy enough but instead of playing ell, the staff just used the same design and insert jeff rough ridin' schwinn instead and then give him the ball more times than darren freaking sproles. wrap your brains around any of that for a second.
Even LFBIQ 18 year old Abe was furious with the play calling. I still think Snyder's family was being held hostage that day.
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Understood. Ouch.
If I may, I'll just say this... 13-9. Period.
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Auburn in 07. I wanted very badly for Prince to succeed. I thought we played well enough to win, and despite the hostile circumstances, alesana alesana, and a young QB. I feel like we were very conservative with Freems and wouldn't really let him throw downfield. Then he got sacked and lost the ball and with it the game. Dagger
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Being a Cat fan since the day I was born, thanks to my Godparents, I've seen a lot of gut wrenching losses.
10. 11 Ok State
9. 00 OU
8. 04 KU. I was working at Lowe's at the time, and had a store manager that played at K-State in the early 00's. He told me before the game LHC LHC Bill Snyder will never lose to KU. We were both pretty depressed the next day.
7. 03 Marshall
6. 04 Colorado. Joel effing Klatt was the QB IIRC. Hate his face.
5. 14 Auburn
4. 03 tOSU.
3. 10 NU. I wanted so badly to beat them one last time.
2. 12 Baylor. I was told I could no longer watch games at my in-laws house after that.
1. 98. I've told the story before, but this was supposed to be a bright spot for my family and friends after a really shitty week. My cousin who was my best friend died that week and we buried him on the day of the game. That day also happens to be my birthday. Lil Harry Doyle was heartbroken already and then it was completely shattered. Easily the most craptastic day of my life.
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'11 @ OSU cost us a Dr Pepper. We led with less than 5 min left and had 3 plays to tie the game from 5 yard line. How is that not top 5???
That game felt like a shootout, that whoever had the ball last would win. It was a disappointing finish but not gut wrenching.
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1. 98. I've told the story before, but this was supposed to be a bright spot for my family and friends after a really shitty week. My cousin who was my best friend died that week and we buried him on the day of the game. That day also happens to be my birthday. Lil Harry Doyle was heartbroken already and then it was completely shattered. Easily the most craptastic day of my life.
:blindfold:
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Let me preface this with an "I'm not gE'ing here"...
The Marshall game... :dunno: Can someone fill me in? It wasn't the Pennington/Moss Miracle years, wtf happened? (I don't mean to dredge up painful memories, just not knowledgeable about this game)
PI's welcome and expected, given the ranking of guts wrenched from the outcome.
Ell Roberson was hurt and we had no depth at QB; walk-on QB had 3 TOs including a fumbled pitch that Marshall returned 84 yards for a TD. It was ugly.
Yea - We were in the red zone about to go up 14-0 and potentially coast. Instead it was 7-7 and it went downhill from there. After 2002 everyone was thinking potential championship and losing to Marshall at home was just so disheartening.
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schwinn ran 21 times for 32 yards in that game. just think about that for a second. also, ell could have played. he was healthy enough but instead of playing ell, the staff just used the same design and insert jeff rough ridin' schwinn instead and then give him the ball more times than darren freaking sproles. wrap your brains around any of that for a second.
After the game, the Marshall players came out and danced on our Powercat midfield :curse:. When we went to Marshall the next year and beat them at home, their fans had a fit when our players went to midfield and danced on the Marshall "M". Boo'd our guys for a long time.
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schwinn ran 21 times for 32 yards in that game. just think about that for a second. also, ell could have played. he was healthy enough but instead of playing ell, the staff just used the same design and insert jeff rough ridin' schwinn instead and then give him the ball more times than darren freaking sproles. wrap your brains around any of that for a second.
After the game, the Marshall players came out and danced on our Powercat midfield :curse:. When we went to Marshall the next year and beat them at home, their fans had a fit when our players went to midfield and danced on the Marshall "M". Boo'd our guys for a long time.
'04 Marshall was one of those gutwrenching wins IIRC
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Understood. Ouch.
If I may, I'll just say this... 13-9. Period.
I remember that. That really had to hurt.
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schwinn ran 21 times for 32 yards in that game. just think about that for a second. also, ell could have played. he was healthy enough but instead of playing ell, the staff just used the same design and insert jeff rough ridin' schwinn instead and then give him the ball more times than darren freaking sproles. wrap your brains around any of that for a second.
After the game, the Marshall players came out and danced on our Powercat midfield :curse:. When we went to Marshall the next year and beat them at home, their fans had a fit when our players went to midfield and danced on the Marshall "M". Boo'd our guys for a long time.
'04 Marshall was one of those gutwrenching wins IIRC
That was 2005.
How hard is it to be accurate in this thread?????? :curse:
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schwinn ran 21 times for 32 yards in that game. just think about that for a second. also, ell could have played. he was healthy enough but instead of playing ell, the staff just used the same design and insert jeff rough ridin' schwinn instead and then give him the ball more times than darren freaking sproles. wrap your brains around any of that for a second.
After the game, the Marshall players came out and danced on our Powercat midfield :curse:. When we went to Marshall the next year and beat them at home, their fans had a fit when our players went to midfield and danced on the Marshall "M". Boo'd our guys for a long time.
'04 Marshall was one of those gutwrenching wins IIRC
That was 2005.
How hard is it to be accurate in this thread?????? :curse:
oh man i didn't realize i was the proverbial straw for the gutwrenching inaccuracies thread. Sorry cf3 :frown:
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Its ok. I've been tending to over react lately.
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schwinn ran 21 times for 32 yards in that game. just think about that for a second. also, ell could have played. he was healthy enough but instead of playing ell, the staff just used the same design and insert jeff rough ridin' schwinn instead and then give him the ball more times than darren freaking sproles. wrap your brains around any of that for a second.
After the game, the Marshall players came out and danced on our Powercat midfield :curse:. When we went to Marshall the next year and beat them at home, their fans had a fit when our players went to midfield and danced on the Marshall "M". Boo'd our guys for a long time.
'04 Marshall was one of those gutwrenching wins IIRC
That was 2005.
How hard is it to be accurate in this thread?????? :curse:
This game was broadcast live on ESPN2...This crap isn't hard to forget people. :curse:
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schwinn ran 21 times for 32 yards in that game. just think about that for a second. also, ell could have played. he was healthy enough but instead of playing ell, the staff just used the same design and insert jeff rough ridin' schwinn instead and then give him the ball more times than darren freaking sproles. wrap your brains around any of that for a second.
After the game, the Marshall players came out and danced on our Powercat midfield :curse:. When we went to Marshall the next year and beat them at home, their fans had a fit when our players went to midfield and danced on the Marshall "M". Boo'd our guys for a long time.
'04 Marshall was one of those gutwrenching wins IIRC
That was 2005.
How hard is it to be accurate in this thread?????? :curse:
This game was broadcast live on ESPN2...This crap isn't hard to forget people. :curse:
Marshall throwing that pass from our 21 when all they had to do was kick :love: I had forgotten we were about to score to put the game out of reach and shot ourselves in the foot.
Just McKinney later stole a bunch of stuff from a former college roommate of mine. I don't hold it against him though since he won us that game in 2005.
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schwinn ran 21 times for 32 yards in that game. just think about that for a second. also, ell could have played. he was healthy enough but instead of playing ell, the staff just used the same design and insert jeff rough ridin' schwinn instead and then give him the ball more times than darren freaking sproles. wrap your brains around any of that for a second.
After the game, the Marshall players came out and danced on our Powercat midfield :curse:. When we went to Marshall the next year and beat them at home, their fans had a fit when our players went to midfield and danced on the Marshall "M". Boo'd our guys for a long time.
'04 Marshall was one of those gutwrenching wins IIRC
That was 2005.
How hard is it to be accurate in this thread?????? :curse:
This game was broadcast live on ESPN2...This crap isn't hard to forget people. :curse:
At like 10:30a right?
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9:30 AM Central time.
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I was at the Marshall-KSU game in Huntington, WV. Very odd game. I think Texas vs OSU was the night game?
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i absolutely don't get people including bowl games. so weird.
Bowl games are about getting there. Nothing really that gut wrenching about losing them. I guess if we had lost 1 of the Fiesta Bowls in the way we lost the Pinstripe Bowl, my gut might have wrenched a bit.
That 96 Cotton Bowl was really tough, I'm tempted to put it higher. In retrospect of course bowl games are meh, but at the time it was our first traditional new years bowl and we were new money, hell we weren't even that yet. The game was amazingly fun, there were so many emotional swings from Super Mario's massive hit to dickbag Sark taunting our bench. We drive the entire length of the field only to see Cavanaugh throw a pick in the endzone to end the game. Seeing Kevin Lockett :bawl: was too much to handle.
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Yeah I can see that MIR. I wasn't really a fan back then so it didn't register with me.
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That Cotton Bowl loss to BYU was exponentially more soul crushing than any other bowl loss. Agree with MIR it was definitely one of the most painful that I can remember.
It will probably go down in history as the only time I've ever actually shed tears from a KSU loss.
Kind of shameful, but I was barely 13 at the time.
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yeah, the byu game was a super huge deal at the time
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My #1 is the Baylor game. We were so close. That was our chance to win the NC. Would have rolled ND in the ship.
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My #1 is the Baylor game. We were so close. That was our chance to win the NC. Would have rolled ND in the ship.
My #1 remains the '98 loss to aTm. But you're right. We would have drilled ND.
Welcome to the board.
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2005 has to be the most gut-wrenching season, right? I mean, that CU game with the Moreira muffed punt, the blowout loss at ISU, the game we should have won at NU . . .
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The 2007 season was pretty gut wrenching. Should have beat Auburn, beat Texas on the road, loss at home to KU, and then losing on the road the final game of the year to be bowl eligible at Fresno.
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2005 has to be the most gut-wrenching season, right? I mean, that CU game with the Herrera muffed punt, the blowout loss at ISU, the game we should have won at NU . . .
I've suppressed pretty much all memory of 2004 - 2008. The 04 Fresno State game I felt like Jodie Foster in the accused right as she was getting held down on the pinball table and then my mind just had to go to a happy place for the next 5 football seasons. I vaguely recall a couple of fun wins over texas but that's about it.
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My #1 is the Baylor game. We were so close. That was our chance to win the NC. Would have rolled ND in the ship.
My #1 remains the '98 loss to aTm. But you're right. We would have drilled ND.
Welcome to the board.
I felt like we would've drilled Tennessee in '98. That one was the suck.