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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: ksu101 on October 16, 2014, 12:05:18 PM
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#28 :shakesfist:
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It is time to get angry again. Let the hate be with you.
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It's like they have never even been to the DeBruce Center
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Is this like the first time ever Nebraska has been ranked ahead of us in a preseason poll?
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Is this like the first time ever Nebraska has been ranked ahead of us in a preseason poll?
just wait until the super secret scrimmage where we pummel those puds
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I just don't think you can rank Nebraska until they actually win a tournament game. Same thing with picking against KU in the B12. Nebraska winning and KU losing aren't impossible, but if you keep trying to predict them you will be wrong far more than you are right.
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Who does ISU return? 14 seems kind of high, though I guess they get the Hoiberg bump.
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Who does ISU return? 14 seems kind of high, though I guess they get the Hoiberg bump.
They lost two Big 12 first teamers. They return some nice pieces in Niang and Morris but they're not going to be as good as last year.
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Who does ISU return? 14 seems kind of high, though I guess they get the Hoiberg bump.
They lost two Big 12 first teamers. They return some nice pieces in Niang and Morris but they're not going to be as good as last year.
100% disagree on being worse. Sure we lost ejim and kane but besides that were returning everyone else. First time in the hoiberg era we have had the bulk of our lineup returning.
Pg's
Monte Morris - set the record for best assist to turnover ratio ever and as a freshman. Made huge strides with his scoring towards the end of the season. One of the top pgs in the b12.
Clayton custer - 4* recruit out of your state alot like morris the way he plays
Bryce Dejean-Jones was unlv's top scorer last year and is said to be a top 3 transfer by most places. Scoring machine, will do well in coach freds system. Has a smooth shot and major ups.
Matt thomas - struggled most of his freshman season but still had the 2nd best season for a freshman in isu history in 3pts made. If his confidence is better this year he might be the best 3pt shooter in the b12.
Naz long - Mr. Clutch. Amazing shooter especially in the clutch.
Fowards
Dustin hogue - one of the top returning rebounders in the b12. Slasher that has the ability to shoot. With niang out last year vs uconn in the sweet 16 he stepped up huge for us. Should put up numbers simular to ejim.
Abdel nader- transfer from Northern Illinois. Was their top scorer which doesn't say much. I honestly dont know how to feel about him. Hes my wild card. However i remember hearing last year when he was on the scout team that he might have been the best player on the court. Also heard he is very good at hitting the tough shots. Also has a 7'1 wingspan.
Jameel mckay- our Shot blocking maching, 6'10 with major ups. Very athletic and soft touch around the rim. Wing span only 2 inches shorter than anthony davis. Really good player.
Daniel edozie - not a huge contributer last year until the end of the season then he filled in some huge minutes in the tournament. Good rebounder huge body
Georgios Tsalmpouris - from greece. Huge guy 7'1. He can shoot and actually moves well. I think when he gets some more muscle he'll be unstoppable but for now just a role player filling in small minutes
Georges niang - possible all American, matchup nightmare. Top foward in the b12 imo. You all know who he is
With all those players i think we should be better. The most talent hoiberg has ever had. We can go huge, we can go snall. Were going to press more this year because we can go 10 deep and have mckay to protect the rim. You know hoibergs teams are going to score but now we have a better defense. We have alot of athleticism too so we should be towards the top in rebounding. Oh plus hilton magic. This is my first post on this site, not trying to anger anyone, i just respectively disagree. We should be a top 3 b12 team this year
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Who does ISU return? 14 seems kind of high, though I guess they get the Hoiberg bump.
They lost two Big 12 first teamers. They return some nice pieces in Niang and Morris but they're not going to be as good as last year.
100% disagree on being worse. Sure we lost ejim and kane but besides that were returning everyone else. First time in the hoiberg era we have had the bulk of our lineup returning.
Pg's
Monte Morris - set the record for best assist to turnover ratio ever and as a freshman. Made huge strides with his scoring towards the end of the season. One of the top pgs in the b12.
Clayton custer - 4* recruit out of your state alot like morris the way he plays
Bryce Dejean-Jones was unlv's top scorer last year and is said to be a top 3 transfer by most places. Scoring machine, will do well in coach freds system. Has a smooth shot and major ups.
Matt thomas - struggled most of his freshman season but still had the 2nd best season for a freshman in isu history in 3pts made. If his confidence is better this year he might be the best 3pt shooter in the b12.
Naz long - Mr. Clutch. Amazing shooter especially in the clutch.
Fowards
Dustin hogue - one of the top returning rebounders in the b12. Slasher that has the ability to shoot. With niang out last year vs uconn in the sweet 16 he stepped up huge for us. Should put up numbers simular to ejim.
Abdel nader- transfer from Northern Illinois. Was their top scorer which doesn't say much. I honestly dont know how to feel about him. Hes my wild card. However i remember hearing last year when he was on the scout team that he might have been the best player on the court. Also heard he is very good at hitting the tough shots. Also has a 7'1 wingspan.
Jameel mckay- our Shot blocking maching, 6'10 with major ups. Very athletic and soft touch around the rim. Wing span only 2 inches shorter than anthony davis. Really good player.
Daniel edozie - not a huge contributer last year until the end of the season then he filled in some huge minutes in the tournament. Good rebounder huge body
Georgios Tsalmpouris - from greece. Huge guy 7'1. He can shoot and actually moves well. I think when he gets some more muscle he'll be unstoppable but for now just a role player filling in small minutes
Georges niang - possible all American, matchup nightmare. Top foward in the b12 imo. You all know who he is
With all those players i think we should be better. The most talent hoiberg has ever had. We can go huge, we can go snall. Were going to press more this year because we can go 10 deep and have mckay to protect the rim. You know hoibergs teams are going to score but now we have a better defense. We have alot of athleticism too so we should be towards the top in rebounding. Oh plus hilton magic. This is my first post on this site, not trying to anger anyone, i just respectively disagree. We should be a top 3 b12 team this year
:lol: :lol: :lol: he is not good.
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He is good, hes a 4* recruit, however he will probably need a year to get used to the college game.
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Ejim and kane were two thirds of your everything.
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It is time to get angry again. Let the hate be with you.
And also with you.
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Ejim and kane were two thirds of your everything.
look at every year with hoiberg. We lose most of our scoring and get better the next season. This is the most returning talent we have ever had under Hoiberg. If history repeats itself we should be very good
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Tell us more about Naz Long aka Mr. Clutch. He sounds dreamy.
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Wow, with that player by player breakdown, I'll bet the clones are top 5. (TLDNR)
Gonna win 'em all!
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Ejim and kane were two thirds of your everything.
look at every year with hoiberg. We lose most of our scoring and get better the next season. This is the most returning talent we have ever had under Hoiberg. If history repeats itself we should be very good
This is dumb. I mean, I hope you guys lose your best players every year too, but evidently for different reasons than you.
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sorry but it's known as the hoiberg conundrum and it's very real.
team loses best players, team gets better. it's like magnets, no one truly understands them either. if history repeats itself.
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Does The HoiNundrum have diminishing returns or does this system just keep on going on a linear path? Hoi should identify his best player monthly, kick them off the team, and win the NC with walk ons and team managers.
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if i'm reading this right, and if history repeats itself, they get better than they were the last year, every single year. the returns are growing, not diminishing. it's like the stock market, which i'm sure hoiberg assassinates. i've heard that when he's not reviewing game film the guy kills the day trade market. #buffet #trump #oppenheimer #hoi
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He is good, hes a 4* recruit, however he will probably need a year to get used to the college game.
:lol:
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247's composite index says that he's a three-star jabroni.
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Hoibergs first year, 2010-11' went 16-16 with literally no one he recruited.
2011-12' lost Garrett, Vanderbeken, anderson, and godfrey, basically all of our scoring. The team goes 23-11 3rd in b12 lost in the round of 32 to eventual nc kentucky.
2012-13' lost royce white, chris allen, and Christopherson, once again all of our scoring. The team went 23-12 4th in the b12 lost in the rd of 32 to Ohio st in a heart breaker.
2013-14' lost tyrus mcgee, babb, okoro, booker, clyburn, Lucious. Once again most of our scoring. We go 28-8 3rd in the b12 won the b12 conf tournament and lost in the sweet 16 to eventual nc uconn. Finished season ranked #10
2014-15' lost ejim and kane. Like i said with what we return and what weve gained we deserve to be ranked where we are, if not higher
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The conference record got worse from '11-12 to '12-13. 3rd place to 4th place. Explain that cryclone12345. Ha!
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24th to 27th on kenpom too. My lord you look like a rough ridin' idiot right now.
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Because you guys were good that year and were above us. When you have more good teams in a conference you generally fall more in the standings
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I see, cryclones basketball doesn't get worse everybody else gets better.
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24th to 27th on kenpom too. My lord you look like a rough ridin' idiot right now.
no you sound like a fan that only knows about one team, kst. Really your judging basketball teams on kenpom rankings. Not trying to start an argument. But if you really cant see how hoibergs teams have gotten better every year, especially in march then you really dont watch basketball outside of your kst team
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24th to 27th on kenpom too. My lord you look like a rough ridin' idiot right now.
no you sound like a fan that only knows about one team, kst. Really your judging basketball teams on kenpom rankings. Not trying to start an argument. But if you really cant see how hoibergs teams have gotten better every year, especially in march then you really dont watch basketball outside of your kst team
This post is amazing in a number of ways.
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24th to 27th on kenpom too. My lord you look like a rough ridin' idiot right now.
no you sound like a fan that only knows about one team, kst. Really your judging basketball teams on kenpom rankings. Not trying to start an argument. But if you really cant see how hoibergs teams have gotten better every year, especially in march then you really dont watch basketball outside of your kst team
He's an illinois fan, dumbshit.
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Man you guys are the only fans that can't take opinions from other teams. Easily the most hated team and fan base in the b12
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I now feel dirty for coming here to comment
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Man you guys are the only fans that can't take opinions from other teams. Easily the most hated team and fan base in the b12
Now you're just kissing their asses.
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This guy has to be a sock.
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I hope we're the most hated by ISU. We're everything they want to be.
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I hope we're the most hated by ISU. We're everything they want to be.
Absolutely
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I hope we're the most hated by ISU. We're everything they want to be.
Absolutely
If were talking football yes ill be honest but if were talking basketball its not even close. We are a better basketball program than you right now.
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I hope we're the most hated by ISU. We're everything they want to be.
Absolutely
If were talking football yes ill be honest but if were talking basketball its not even close. We are a better basketball program than you right now.
not even close, we're going to mop the floor with your incoming class of retreads and when we do, your coach and AD are going to go to the media and cry like the cyclones that they are.
and the rest of the conference will laugh at you. like we always do. and then i'll go into my walk-in fridge and caress my life sized julius michalik butter sculpture.
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And an Iowa State fan is everything a KSU fan should fear/loathe becoming.
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Question? When was the last time Iowa State won a league title compared to K-state? I'll hang up and listen off the air. :lol:
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Hell when was the last time Iowa State had any self-respect? They revel in their mediocrity.
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smeagol state covets our preciousss
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I hope we're the most hated by ISU. We're everything they want to be.
t-shirt idea for the next time i go to a game in ames-
"ksu...everything iowa state wants to be"
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KSU...everything Iowa State wants to be, but is too busy feeling sorry for itself to try
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hmmm I think it's not snappy enough for a Tee, sorry guys
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KSU...everything Iowa State wants to be, but is too busy feeling sorry for itself to try
This tee should come with flags that can be thrown other's faces.
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Kenny's preseason: http://kenpom.com/
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duke is going to be so good this year, will be fun watching them against kentucky in the finals
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Kenny's preseason: http://kenpom.com/
woof:
Projected record: 18-11 9-9
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is ken pom is back on the sauce or what
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Indiana at 26 is lunacy.
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There are not 30 teams better than K-State this year.
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is ken pom is back on the sauce or what
Does more work for ESPN.... :dunno:
Also having Duke number one is a incredible joke. However he tries to evaluate incoming freshmen is a joke.
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duke is number one in my opinion and in ken pomeroy's opinion too so not sure what your prob is with duke but you best watch yourself
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http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11749343
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/ap
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WTF? Harvard? Utes? WTF?
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:jerk:
There are not 30 teams better than us.
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BRING BACK THE ANGER!!!!!!!!
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The breads are in both polls. #24/#25. Boing!!! :Order:
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Just think how high they will be once they stroll on into Miami and kick Angel's dick off for him. :Pirate Captain:
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Mid to low teens I would say. :batman:
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This is a good thread for bread. Not so much for cats.
Gonna win 'em all!
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it will be a good thread for the cats, but by then it will be a bad thread for the breads
#blessed
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You're going to look silly later on when the breads are a top 25 mainstay. It's okay though, I won't bring up this little indiscretion of yours here. #class #beentherebefore #oldmoney
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Man bread loves college hoops and he doesn't care who knows it.
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I kind of think he cares (at least a little bit).
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BRING BACK THE ANGER!!!!!!!!
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