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Title: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: dmartin on September 19, 2014, 08:58:21 AM
Just got an ESPN alert that Malzhaun denied having our signals?  Was this alleged?  Hadn't heard anything about this.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on September 19, 2014, 09:05:31 AM
Sounds super SECish
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: sak on September 19, 2014, 09:06:14 AM
stealing signals... lol.

maybe your 90 year old coach should make them harder to steal.

...but no, i have not heard anything along those lines.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: dmartin on September 19, 2014, 09:13:48 AM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11551618/kansas-state-wildcats-coach-bill-snyder-accuses-auburn-tigers-signal-stealing

actually a small article now (if you can call it that).  I cant say it seemed like they knew what we were doing...
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: CNS on September 19, 2014, 09:41:11 AM
Commentators mentioned this more than once last night.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 19, 2014, 09:42:02 AM
Then change the signals.

Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: The_Wippuh on September 19, 2014, 09:43:41 AM
I have no doubt we knew exactly which looks to throw at you on D to make you audible into terrible run plays.  Malzahn has someone(s) on staff that is watching the other team's calls and figuring them out.  This is how we shut down FSU for 3 quarters in the Championship game. 

If you're too dumb to change your calls vs Auburn, you get what you deserve.  Everyone is trying to do it, it looks like Auburn is actually doing it.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: Brock Landers on September 19, 2014, 09:59:54 AM
This is stupid.  If you don't have someone trying to decipher the other team's signals then that's your problem.  Also don't know how it can be considered "stealing" if they're giving them out on the sideline in plain sight.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: eastcat on September 19, 2014, 10:09:55 AM
It's against the rules in the NFL. College doesn't have anything barring it right now. Pretty typical SEC though.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: BackPayne on September 19, 2014, 10:10:56 AM
Who cares? We effed ourselves with the kicking game and turnovers.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 19, 2014, 10:14:35 AM
You don't just watch a team from across the field and learn their signals.  My guess is Gus has someone taping opponents when they're playing other teams.  It's interesting because I think he's only doing it against OOC opponents, FSU and KSU.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 19, 2014, 10:16:22 AM
Gus probably just figured out our check tendencies. Show a defense that makes checking into a run a no brainer, and then switch the defense to stop that run after the audible.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 19, 2014, 10:22:02 AM
Gus probably just figured out our check tendencies. Show a defense that makes checking into a run a no brainer, and then switch the defense to stop that run after the audible.

They stopped the run by loading the box. They knew the routes our receivers were going to run.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: Cire on September 19, 2014, 10:28:15 AM
someone tweeted that towards the end of the first half we were double audibling because auburn was all over our first ones.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: ednksu on September 19, 2014, 10:30:53 AM
It would have been nice for bill to watch the national championship last year.  Auburn does this kind of crap.  Kelvin Benjamin figured it out and FSU made the adjustments.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: kso_FAN on September 19, 2014, 10:32:02 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2204094-bill-snyder-says-auburn-had-kansas-states-signals-but-gus-malzahn-denies-it

Its part of the game, its on us to have other options to call plays if we find out an opponent is doing it.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: catzacker on September 19, 2014, 10:39:30 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2204094-bill-snyder-says-auburn-had-kansas-states-signals-but-gus-malzahn-denies-it

Its part of the game, its on us to have other options to call plays if we find out an opponent is doing it.

This.  Quit being bitches about it.  Maybe during the 25hrs a day that bill stays awake he could figure out a way to mix them up.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: ednksu on September 19, 2014, 10:43:18 AM
Understandably part of the game, but it doesn't make it less bush league.  I'm pretty shocked Snyder called then on it.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 19, 2014, 10:58:27 AM
If stealing our signals is doable than you'd better believe Kingsbury, Horsewoman and Gundy will be doing the crap out of it.

Weis is too lazy.
Stoops and Patterson love us too much
Briles is too Texas
Strong is incapable of doing it
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: doom on September 19, 2014, 11:05:56 AM
This has nothing to do with 3 missed fg's, jake dropping the ball, and our star WR tipping a ball in the air
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: kso_FAN on September 19, 2014, 11:08:34 AM
This has nothing to do with 3 missed fg's, jake dropping the ball, and our star WR tipping a ball in the air

Yeah. If they were really stealing signals to gain an advantage they did a pretty poor job of it.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: 'taterblast on September 19, 2014, 12:22:32 PM
plenty of teams at least try to steal signals
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: RunSprolesRun on September 19, 2014, 12:40:47 PM
stealing signals... lol.

maybe your 90 year old coach should make them harder to steal.

...but no, i have not heard anything along those lines.

Ouch, low blow sir. Pretty sure this type of stuff goes on in the NFL as well with some of the sharpest coaches in the world.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: michigancat on September 19, 2014, 12:41:54 PM
Haven't we known this since Baylor 2012?
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: slucat on September 19, 2014, 12:43:12 PM
maybe bill put them in the cloud.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: slimz on September 19, 2014, 01:27:38 PM
Haven't we known this since Baylor 2012 OU 2000?

Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: NDSU Lollypopkid on September 19, 2014, 01:33:02 PM
yea, that middle finger hand signal to America during Locketts touchdown drop was spot on
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: WildcatPower on September 19, 2014, 02:07:41 PM
Who cares? We effed ourselves with the kicking game and turnovers.

This. All. Day. Long.
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: kostakio on September 19, 2014, 02:26:27 PM
Snyder is pretty well known for stealing signals especially in the early years.  The urban legend is that in the 95 KU game Stoops and co had the defense looking to the KU sideline to get their defensive call.  If you watch that game we were all over them the entire time like we knew exactly what was coming. Gary Barnett once accoused Snyder of having bugs in the visitors locker room.  Tom Osborne started covering his mouth when he sent in plays around the time Snyder came into the league.  He was actually paranoid that Snyder was going to somehow have somebody reading his lips and stealing the ball. 
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 19, 2014, 02:28:50 PM
Snyder is pretty well known for stealing signals especially in the early years.  The urban legend is that in the 95 KU game Stoops and co had the defense looking to the KU sideline to get their defensive call.  If you watch that game we were all over them the entire time like we knew exactly what was coming. Gary Barnett once accoused Snyder of having bugs in the visitors locker room.  Tom Osborne started covering his mouth when he sent in plays around the time Snyder came into the league.  He was actually paranoid that Snyder was going to somehow have somebody reading his lips and stealing the ball.

When Terry Allen was at ku, the ku players claimed our defensive checks were always exactly into what they were going to do.   
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: sunflowersue on September 19, 2014, 10:26:05 PM
LHC Bill Snyder Didn't Accuse Auburn of Stealing Signals 
http://www.bringonthecats.com/2014/9/19/6560333/bill-snyder-didnt-accuse-auburn-of-stealing-signals (http://www.bringonthecats.com/2014/9/19/6560333/bill-snyder-didnt-accuse-auburn-of-stealing-signals)

Leave it to the media to completely twist the words that were actually said:

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Here is video of ESPN sideline reporter Samantha Ponder relaying what LHC Bill Snyder told her at halftime. Ponder's direct quote is below:

"They're getting our signals, we've gotta do a better job disguising them."

Not "they're stealing our signals." Not "stealing signals is bad or unfair."

Of course, ESPN and our own mothership can't get clicks from you by saying "LHC Bill Snyder said K-State had to do a better job disguising its signals because Auburn figured them out." Instead, they went with headlines like this: "LHC Bill Snyder says Auburn is stealing Kansas State's signals"
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: puniraptor on September 19, 2014, 10:27:55 PM
Why didn't  we just fake checking to a run and still pass
Title: Re: Auburn stealing signals?
Post by: wetwillie on September 19, 2014, 10:31:32 PM
Bring back Navajo code talkers