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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: Dr Rick Daris on September 19, 2014, 08:42:22 AM
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i thought the iowa state game was the absolute worst that we could play and then last night happened. i mean what in the world was that crap? do we need to adjust expectations for this team and just admit that they aren't very good?
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i thought the iowa state game was the absolute worst that we could play and then last night happened. i mean what in the world was that crap? do we need to adjust expectations for this team and just admit that they aren't very good?
I think we will get better as the season goes on and finish with 8 wins. Last year we lost a noconference game at home, and the team didn't let it kill their season. Let's just see how they respond.
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I dunno what to take from it. Auburn is horrible & would be a middle the pack team in the Big XII. Still can't figure out how we laid an egg & didn't beat them by 3 TD's or more.
:dunno:
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Front 7 on D made big improvements over the Iowa St game
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If we leave double digit points on the field against Baylor, OSU or OU we will lose by 20+
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I dunno what to take from it. Auburn is horrible & would be a middle the pack team in the Big XII. Still can't figure out how we laid an egg & didn't beat them by 3 TD's or more.
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lol. if auburn is horrible, what does that make a team that loses at home to them?
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Gotta agree, we leave points like that on the field and a Big 12 team like Oklahoma or Baylor is literally going to fist eff us and we won't even be within 4 TD's at the end of the game.
Thank goodness it was an overrated SEC team and we at least still had a chance.
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I dunno what to take from it. Auburn is horrible & would be a middle the pack team in the Big XII. Still can't figure out how we laid an egg & didn't beat them by 3 TD's or more.
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lol. if auburn is horrible, what does that make a team that loses at home to them?
that's kind of the point of this thread, dipshit. an open and rational discussions about the fact that our football team probably just isn't very good.
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i love how you guys act like auburn didn't leave any points on the field.
lol.
and no, you guys never really did have a chance to win. at what point in the 4th quarter did kansas state have the ball with a chance to tie or take the lead? just be glad there wasn't an extra minute left or you had an extra timeout to force auburn to continue running plays as the game ended because they likely would have scored again.
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i love how you guys act like auburn didn't leave any points on the field.
lol.
and no, you guys never really did have a chance to win. at what point in the 4th quarter did kansas state have the ball with a chance to tie or take the lead? just be glad there wasn't an extra minute left or you had an extra timeout to force auburn to continue running plays as the game ended because they likely would have scored again.
That's really the point, an Oklahoma or a Baylor catches those passes and houses them and thus walks out laughing at a 4TD win. Auburn bumble effed around like an overrated/ over hyped SEC team against our merry band of DITR'ers and almost got beat.
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i love how you guys act like auburn didn't leave any points on the field.
lol.
and no, you guys never really did have a chance to win. at what point in the 4th quarter did kansas state have the ball with a chance to tie or take the lead? just be glad there wasn't an extra minute left or you had an extra timeout to force auburn to continue running plays as the game ended because they likely would have scored again.
it's like i'm saying "dang it, we stink" and then you are going "man you don't get it. you guys stink." so then i'm like "yeah dude. i know. we stink." and then you come back with "lol but guess what? you guys stink".
i mean we can keep doing this all day i suppose but at some point in time it justs seems like it would make more sense for you to just acknowledge that we are on the same team in terms of agreeing that our football team isn't good. it's frustrating for some of us because we thought that we might be and now after the iowa state game and last night, it's obvious we aren't.
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i love how you guys act like auburn didn't leave any points on the field.
lol.
and no, you guys never really did have a chance to win. at what point in the 4th quarter did kansas state have the ball with a chance to tie or take the lead? just be glad there wasn't an extra minute left or you had an extra timeout to force auburn to continue running plays as the game ended because they likely would have scored again.
That's really the point, an Oklahoma or a Baylor catches those passes and houses them and thus walks out laughing at a 4TD win. Auburn bumble effed around like an overrated/ over hyped SEC team against our merry band of DITR'ers and almost got beat.
whatever you say. most great teams have a mediocre performance from time to time. duke williams made a couple drops he doesn't normally drop. life goes on. great teams are the teams that can play poorly and still beat a pretty good team on the road.
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Texted an EMAW bud several times that I was glad we weren't playing OU or Baylor, otherwise they're breaking in the 3rd stringers by the 4th quarter.
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i love how you guys act like auburn didn't leave any points on the field.
lol.
and no, you guys never really did have a chance to win. at what point in the 4th quarter did kansas state have the ball with a chance to tie or take the lead? just be glad there wasn't an extra minute left or you had an extra timeout to force auburn to continue running plays as the game ended because they likely would have scored again.
Auburn missed a lot of deep passes, but you guys do that all the time. That is why we didn't have safeties over the top. We had no respect for your passing game and you proved us right.
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i love how you guys act like auburn didn't leave any points on the field.
lol.
and no, you guys never really did have a chance to win. at what point in the 4th quarter did kansas state have the ball with a chance to tie or take the lead? just be glad there wasn't an extra minute left or you had an extra timeout to force auburn to continue running plays as the game ended because they likely would have scored again.
it's like i'm saying "dang it, we stink" and then you are going "man you don't get it. you guys stink." so then i'm like "yeah dude. i know. we stink." and then you come back with "lol but guess what? you guys stink".
i mean we can keep doing this all day i suppose but at some point in time it justs seems like it would make more sense for you to just acknowledge that we are on the same team in terms of agreeing that our football team isn't good. it's frustrating for some of us because we thought that we might me and now after the iowa state game and last night, it's obvious we aren't.
your team obviously has issues, but you guys aren't terrible. you converted a lot of key 3rd downs which really helped extend drives and keep auburn's offense off the field. if instead of 8-14 on 3rd downs you guys had been 4-14, then the game would have probably been a lot different. but you went 8-14... made enough plays to at least keep you in the game, but just made too many mistakes to win.
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i love how you guys act like auburn didn't leave any points on the field.
lol.
and no, you guys never really did have a chance to win. at what point in the 4th quarter did kansas state have the ball with a chance to tie or take the lead? just be glad there wasn't an extra minute left or you had an extra timeout to force auburn to continue running plays as the game ended because they likely would have scored again.
That's really the point, an Oklahoma or a Baylor catches those passes and houses them and thus walks out laughing at a 4TD win. Auburn bumble effed around like an overrated/ over hyped SEC team against our merry band of DITR'ers and almost got beat.
whatever you say. most great teams have a mediocre performance from time to time. duke williams made a couple drops he doesn't normally drop. life goes on. great teams are the teams that can play poorly and still beat a pretty good team on the road.
so for the ninth time in this thread, you are going on record saying the kstate football team isn't good? fresh take jackass. guess what? 95% of us including myself agree. now quit mucking up my thread.
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i thought the iowa state game was the absolute worst that we could play and then last night happened. i mean what in the world was that crap? do we need to adjust expectations for this team and just admit that they aren't very good?
I think we will get better as the season goes on and finish with 8 wins. Last year we lost a noconference game at home, and the team didn't let it kill their season. Let's just see how they respond.
I think we'll get better and get 7 wins.
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i love how you guys act like auburn didn't leave any points on the field.
lol.
and no, you guys never really did have a chance to win. at what point in the 4th quarter did kansas state have the ball with a chance to tie or take the lead? just be glad there wasn't an extra minute left or you had an extra timeout to force auburn to continue running plays as the game ended because they likely would have scored again.
Auburn missed a lot of deep passes, but you guys do that all the time. That is why we didn't have safeties over the top. We had no respect for your passing game and you proved us right.
the difference was a couple in this game were actually right on the money. marshall's accuracy wasn't the problem... it was the supposedly sure-handed receivers.
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Daniel Sams could have made every throw Jake made last night. There were zero throws where you were like "whoa that was a great throw, he really rocketed that one, or, he really fit that one into a tight window." They were all just normal throws that Sams and pretty much any other D1 QB could make. Difference being Sams would have broke contain tons of times and high-stepped into the hearts of espn and everyone watching while leading the cats to victory. I truly believe that, and nothing will ever change my mind. I'm not going to talk about it any more.
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Daniel Sams could have made every throw Jake made last night. There were zero throws where you were like "whoa that was a great throw, he really rocketed that one, or, he really fit that one into a tight window." They were all just normal throws that Sams and pretty much any other D1 QB could make. Difference being Sams would have broke contain tons of times and high-stepped into the hearts of espn and everyone watching while leading the cats to victory. I truly believe that, and nothing will ever change my mind. I'm not going to talk about it any more.
Agree. But you have to remember, that high stepping made Dana Dimel really mad and #Life didn't know the playbook backwards and forwards and back again and thus couldn't check us into bad plays consistently like Jake Waters. So there you have it.
Afterall, according to D. "Never blame the coaches" ScottFritchen, Jake can check anytime he wants.
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My humble is opinion is that KSU has a pretty damn good team. Whatever you cats want to say is fine but I know Auburn has a great team this year so I am not worried about them. Also, you guys are selling yourselves short on your team. From what I saw, and what I know about Auburn, KSU should have an outstanding year. Matter of fact, I hope you guys do because those players fought their asses off last night. I believe this game will be like Auburns last year against LSU. Its the game where the lights truly came on even in a loss.
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My humble is opinion is that KSU has a pretty damn good team. Whatever you cats want to say is fine but I know Auburn has a great team this year so I am not worried about them. Also, you guys are selling yourselves short on your team. From what I saw, and what I know about Auburn, KSU should have an outstanding year. Matter of fact, I hope you guys do because those players fought their asses off last night. I believe this game will be like Auburns last year against LSU. Its the game where the lights truly came on even in a loss.
Meh. Auburn is a 3 loss team this year and K-State is a 5 loss team. No biggie.
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My humble is opinion is that KSU has a pretty damn good team. Whatever you cats want to say is fine but I know Auburn has a great team this year so I am not worried about them. Also, you guys are selling yourselves short on your team. From what I saw, and what I know about Auburn, KSU should have an outstanding year. Matter of fact, I hope you guys do because those players fought their asses off last night. I believe this game will be like Auburns last year against LSU. Its the game where the lights truly came on even in a loss.
Meh. Auburn is a 3 loss team this year and K-State is a 5 loss team. No biggie.
Lets discuss this again in November.
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My humble is opinion is that KSU has a pretty damn good team. Whatever you cats want to say is fine but I know Auburn has a great team this year so I am not worried about them. Also, you guys are selling yourselves short on your team. From what I saw, and what I know about Auburn, KSU should have an outstanding year. Matter of fact, I hope you guys do because those players fought their asses off last night. I believe this game will be like Auburns last year against LSU. Its the game where the lights truly came on even in a loss.
Meh. Auburn is a 3 loss team this year and K-State is a 5 loss team. No biggie.
Lets discuss this again in November.
Meh.
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Daniel Sams could have made every throw Jake made last night. There were zero throws where you were like "whoa that was a great throw, he really rocketed that one, or, he really fit that one into a tight window." They were all just normal throws that Sams and pretty much any other D1 QB could make. Difference being Sams would have broke contain tons of times and high-stepped into the hearts of espn and everyone watching while leading the cats to victory. I truly believe that, and nothing will ever change my mind. I'm not going to talk about it any more.
granted i'm not that familiar with sams... but i thought waters made a couple really nice throws. one where he got 9 or 11 yards on 3rd and 8 as they were approaching the red zone... and another where he rolled out to the right and found i believe a tight end near the sideline for 20 yards. i want to say there was 1 more too...
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In this instance, the cliche is true: K-State lost this game more than Auburn won it. 3 missed but very makeable field goals, two absurd fumbles, and TLABL missing an open TD that became an INT - that "amazing SEC defense" wasn't responsible for much of that.
The good news is that these problems on offense aren't all that common (well, except for our woeful kicking), and the liklihood of them occuring often, let alone all in the same game, is extremely low. Auburn got lucky, and capitalized on that luck as good teams do. In the meantime, we saw a significantly better defensive performance than last week. Our offense will recover. If our D continues to play at that level, a 9-3 or even 10-2 season is not outside the realm of possibility.
None of this is meant as a putdown to Auburn. Beating a ranked opponent on the road is tough, and they are to be congratulated.
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In this instance, the cliche is true: K-State lost this game more than Auburn won it. 3 missed but very makeable field goals, two absurd fumbles, and TLABL missing an open TD that became an INT - that "amazing SEC defense" wasn't responsible for much of that.
The good news is that these problems on offense aren't all that common (well, except for our woeful kicking), and the liklihood of them occuring often, let alone all in the same game, is extremely low. Auburn got lucky, and capitalized on that luck as good teams do. In the meantime, we saw a significantly better defensive performance than last week. Our offense will recover. If our D continues to play at that level, a 9-3 or even 10-2 season is not outside the realm of possibility.
None of this is meant as a putdown to Auburn. Beating a ranked opponent on the road is tough, and they are to be congratulated.
Don't forget the mistakes weren't one-sided. Auburn dropped a couple of long balls themselves.
Kansas State will be fine.
Neither team looked sharp, but both teams should learn a lot in the film room.
Good luck the rest of the way; It benefits us both if both teams do well.
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In this instance, the cliche is true: K-State lost this game more than Auburn won it. 3 missed but very makeable field goals, two absurd fumbles, and TLABL missing an open TD that became an INT - that "amazing SEC defense" wasn't responsible for much of that.
The good news is that these problems on offense aren't all that common (well, except for our woeful kicking), and the liklihood of them occuring often, let alone all in the same game, is extremely low. Auburn got lucky, and capitalized on that luck as good teams do. In the meantime, we saw a significantly better defensive performance than last week. Our offense will recover. If our D continues to play at that level, a 9-3 or even 10-2 season is not outside the realm of possibility.
None of this is meant as a putdown to Auburn. Beating a ranked opponent on the road is tough, and they are to be congratulated.
I saw several TDs dropped by the AU WRs as well. Lot of points left of the field last night. I saw 14 by AU and 16 by KSU. I'm thinking the score should have been more like 34-30ish.
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In this instance, the cliche is true: K-State lost this game more than Auburn won it. 3 missed but very makeable field goals, two absurd fumbles, and TLABL missing an open TD that became an INT - that "amazing SEC defense" wasn't responsible for much of that.
The good news is that these problems on offense aren't all that common (well, except for our woeful kicking), and the liklihood of them occuring often, let alone all in the same game, is extremely low. Auburn got lucky, and capitalized on that luck as good teams do. In the meantime, we saw a significantly better defensive performance than last week. Our offense will recover. If our D continues to play at that level, a 9-3 or even 10-2 season is not outside the realm of possibility.
None of this is meant as a putdown to Auburn. Beating a ranked opponent on the road is tough, and they are to be congratulated.
I saw several TDs dropped by the AU WRs as well. Lot of points left of the field last night. I saw 14 by AU and 16 by KSU. I'm thinking the score should have been more like 34-30ish.
Receivers get overthrown / drop balls all the time. Dropping a wide open pass in the end zone to become an INT is more of the fluke variety. Again, Auburn got lucky and capitalized on it. Nothing wrong with that.
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at least we get ku at home. every other game from here on out is an uphill battle.
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In this instance, the cliche is true: K-State lost this game more than Auburn won it. 3 missed but very makeable field goals, two absurd fumbles, and TLABL missing an open TD that became an INT - that "amazing SEC defense" wasn't responsible for much of that.
The good news is that these problems on offense aren't all that common (well, except for our woeful kicking), and the liklihood of them occuring often, let alone all in the same game, is extremely low. Auburn got lucky, and capitalized on that luck as good teams do. In the meantime, we saw a significantly better defensive performance than last week. Our offense will recover. If our D continues to play at that level, a 9-3 or even 10-2 season is not outside the realm of possibility.
None of this is meant as a putdown to Auburn. Beating a ranked opponent on the road is tough, and they are to be congratulated.
I saw several TDs dropped by the AU WRs as well. Lot of points left of the field last night. I saw 14 by AU and 16 by KSU. I'm thinking the score should have been more like 34-30ish.
Receivers get overthrown / drop balls all the time. Dropping a wide open pass in the end zone to become an INT is more of the fluke variety. Again, Auburn got lucky and capitalized on it. Nothing wrong with that.
Didn't say anything was wrong with any of it. I just think this game was a bit uncharacteristic of both teams. I see a lot KSU fans down on this team which is totally understandable after a loss but no way should the EMAW family be down on the team. Time will prove this I believe. KSU will have a great season, imo.
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i was really hoping that our game against iowa state was flukey but after last night i have to say that this is a .500 team we're looking at. good teams don't look like bad teams two games in a row and we just did.
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we already played our harley day card and still lost. do we have anything special we can use for the utep game?
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we already played our harley day card and still lost. do we have anything special we can use for the utep game?
Ft Riley Day.
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We basically played TCU (maybe a little worse?) at home last night and lost.
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Ft Riley Day.
ok, we might win next weekend
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Well, what do I know (not much)? Maybe I'm giving Auburn too much credit, but I though our D played reasonably well last night.
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Well, what do I know (not much)? Maybe I'm giving Auburn too much credit, but I though our D played reasonably well last night.
They did. Maybe it would have looked different if Duke Williams doesn't drop those 2 passes, but he did. K State loaded the box and forced Auburn to throw. I'd call Auburn's results in the passing game mixed at best.
The defense played well enough to win. The offense made too many mistakes and had too many drives stall out at inopportune times to win.
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Daniel Sams could have made every throw Jake made last night. There were zero throws where you were like "whoa that was a great throw, he really rocketed that one, or, he really fit that one into a tight window." They were all just normal throws that Sams and pretty much any other D1 QB could make. Difference being Sams would have broke contain tons of times and high-stepped into the hearts of espn and everyone watching while leading the cats to victory. I truly believe that, and nothing will ever change my mind. I'm not going to talk about it any more.
One pass to Sexton was an extremely tight window.
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Do we play at WVU? That is going to be a bitch. Waters will give it to the other guys at least 3 times.
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Daniel Sams could have made every throw Jake made last night. There were zero throws where you were like "whoa that was a great throw, he really rocketed that one, or, he really fit that one into a tight window." They were all just normal throws that Sams and pretty much any other D1 QB could make. Difference being Sams would have broke contain tons of times and high-stepped into the hearts of espn and everyone watching while leading the cats to victory. I truly believe that, and nothing will ever change my mind. I'm not going to talk about it any more.
One pass to Sexton was an extremely tight window.
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Daniel Sams could have made every throw Jake made last night. There were zero throws where you were like "whoa that was a great throw, he really rocketed that one, or, he really fit that one into a tight window." They were all just normal throws that Sams and pretty much any other D1 QB could make. Difference being Sams would have broke contain tons of times and high-stepped into the hearts of espn and everyone watching while leading the cats to victory. I truly believe that, and nothing will ever change my mind. I'm not going to talk about it any more.
One pass to Sexton was an extremely tight window.
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1! :D
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Waters put 2 or three ball(s) on the money in very tight windows. That last interception was inexcusable. There was no way that is being completed. That ball has to land in ICat.
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Waters put 2 or three ball(s) on the money in very tight windows. That last interception was inexcusable. There was no way that is being completed. That ball has to land in ICat.
Worse than any Sams INT ever? I say yes.
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Waters put 2 or three ball(s) on the money in very tight windows. That last interception was inexcusable. There was no way that is being completed. That ball has to land in ICat.
Or in TLBL hands who was wide open only about 5 yards closer and slightly more in the middle of the field but when your scrambling that would be a hard find and a hard throw.
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Waters put 2 or three ball(s) on the money in very tight windows. That last interception was inexcusable. There was no way that is being completed. That ball has to land in ICat.
Or in TLBL hands who was wide open only about 5 yards closer and slightly more in the middle of the field but when your scrambling that would be a hard find and a hard throw.
Which is why that ball goes into ICat.
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at least we get ku at home. every other game from here on out is an uphill battle.
Even that ku game is looking like a toss-up now. Cozart made more plays with his feet last week against Duke (stronger defense than ours) than Marshall did against us last night, and they look about evenly inconsistent when it comes to throwing the ball. ku's main issue defensively was giving up breakaway runs, but we saw last night that our running backs aren't going to be breaking away from anybody. :frown:
That KU game's probably gonna be for bowl eligibility, too. :ohno:
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We basically played TCU (maybe a little worse?) at home last night and lost.
I thought we were playing against West Virginia's offense and TCU's defense all night. Nothing extraordinary from either, we just couldn't stop shooting ourselves in the foot.
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:dunno:
Auburn is a pretty good team that will lose some games simply because their schedule is brutal. I don't buy into SEC hype completely, but they have a combination of size and speed that we simply won't see from many Big 12 teams. It looked like a September game with both teams making mistakes. Ours were more costly overall, but Auburn had some bad ones too. It happens sometimes early in the year, even when good teams play each other. JMHO.
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:dunno:
Auburn is a pretty good team that will lose some games simply because their schedule is brutal. I don't buy into SEC hype completely, but they have a combination of size and speed that we simply won't see from many Big 12 teams. It looked like a September game with both teams making mistakes. Ours were more costly overall, but Auburn had some bad ones too. It happens sometimes early in the year, even when good teams play each other. JMHO.
So typical. Take off the purple glasses, _FAN. Last night showed that every week's going to be a dogfight from here on out. A trip to Memphis for the Liberty Bowl is looking like a pretty lofty goal right now.
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Texted an EMAW bud several times that I was glad we weren't playing OU or Baylor, otherwise they're breaking in the 3rd stringers by the 4th quarter.
Is this the same Baylor that cakewalked through the big 12 schedule and then lost to UCF by 10 points in the Fiesta Bowl? Or do you think they have improved?
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In this instance, the cliche is true: K-State lost this game more than Auburn won it. 3 missed but very makeable field goals, two absurd fumbles, and TLABL missing an open TD that became an INT - that "amazing SEC defense" wasn't responsible for much of that.
The good news is that these problems on offense aren't all that common (well, except for our woeful kicking), and the liklihood of them occuring often, let alone all in the same game, is extremely low. Auburn got lucky, and capitalized on that luck as good teams do. In the meantime, we saw a significantly better defensive performance than last week. Our offense will recover. If our D continues to play at that level, a 9-3 or even 10-2 season is not outside the realm of possibility.
None of this is meant as a putdown to Auburn. Beating a ranked opponent on the road is tough, and they are to be congratulated.
I saw several TDs dropped by the AU WRs as well. Lot of points left of the field last night. I saw 14 by AU and 16 by KSU. I'm thinking the score should have been more like 34-30ish.
Receivers get overthrown / drop balls all the time. Dropping a wide open pass in the end zone to become an INT is more of the fluke variety. Again, Auburn got lucky and capitalized on it. Nothing wrong with that.
I heard this about 10 times last year. Nice to see the luck is still flowing.
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auburn didn't get lucky. we are just much worse than a lot of us thought. our last eight quarters of football should tell you that.
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Texted an EMAW bud several times that I was glad we weren't playing OU or Baylor, otherwise they're breaking in the 3rd stringers by the 4th quarter.
Is this the same Baylor that cakewalked through the big 12 schedule and then lost to UCF by 10 points in the Fiesta Bowl? Or do you think they have improved?
I know you're not a Bama fan, but shouldn't you, you know, being an SEC school fan (and thus by virtue of that know everything there is to know about football) understand that a month to prep for a bowl is, you know, a long time?
I mean, I bet you thought with a month to prep for FSU, that Auburn was going to roll through them like a hot knife, and while it was a good game. The SEC school still lost to the ACC team in the natty.
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Texted an EMAW bud several times that I was glad we weren't playing OU or Baylor, otherwise they're breaking in the 3rd stringers by the 4th quarter.
Is this the same Baylor that cakewalked through the big 12 schedule and then lost to UCF by 10 points in the Fiesta Bowl? Or do you think they have improved?
I know you're not a Bama fan, but shouldn't you, you know, being an SEC school fan (and thus by virtue of that know everything there is to know about football) understand that a month to prep for a bowl is, you know, a long time?
I mean, I bet you thought with a month to prep for FSU, that Auburn was going to roll through them like a hot knife, and while it was a good game. The SEC school still lost to the ACC team in the natty.
FSU sleep walked through their ACC schedule and come across Auburn, a team that had about 6 narrow escapes for victories in the SEC. It took FSU a kickoff return in the 4th, and another TD with 13 seconds left in the game to beat us. All that says is the SEC>>ACC, and that FSU can play with the big boys too.
But then again, you are comparing Baylors loss to UCF with Auburns loss to FSU... so why am I even arguing with someone with a limited mental capacity? Auburn would crush Baylor. Don't let how AU played against K-State make you think Auburn is a bad team. We looked even worse against Mississippi State last year in game 3 (and that was at home). I think surviving this game against KSU will be huge for helping our team grow and have a shot at winning the West again.
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That doesn't say SEC >>> ACC at all dumb dumb
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Why are you so angry? I mean, I bet Bama didn't expect to be crushed by the Utah Utes in the Sugar Bowl a few years back did they? It happens, any knowledgeable fan of college football knows that week-to-week in season and the bowls are sometimes two different things entirely.
But the simple fact remains, when we've played Baylor and OU the last two years who have similar athletes to Auburn on offense, they don't drop passes, they're like a machine.
We leave those kinds of points on the field last night and both teams would have crushed K-State by 4 TD's easy.
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Coach Gill's keys to victory:
1. Block
2. Tackle
3. Catch
4. Throw
I think we did an ok job of executing 1, 2, and 4, but Lockett couldn't catch that ball in the endzone, and that is why we lost the game.
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Why are you so angry? I mean, I bet Bama didn't expect to be crushed by the Utah Utes in the Sugar Bowl a few years back did they? It happens, any knowledgeable fan of college football knows that week-to-week in season and the bowls are sometimes two different things entirely.
But the simple fact remains, when we've played Baylor and OU the last two years who have similar athletes to Auburn on offense, they don't drop passes, they're like a machine.
We leave those kinds of points on the field last night and both teams would have crushed K-State by 4 TD's easy.
you act like oklahoma and baylor are immune to having off games. did you catch any of the oklahoma/texas game last year? or the baylor/oklahoma state game?
and incidentally, both texas and oklahoma state who blew out the top 2 teams in the big 12 last season were soundly beaten by SEC teams.
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Why are you so angry? I mean, I bet Bama didn't expect to be crushed by the Utah Utes in the Sugar Bowl a few years back did they? It happens, any knowledgeable fan of college football knows that week-to-week in season and the bowls are sometimes two different things entirely.
But the simple fact remains, when we've played Baylor and OU the last two years who have similar athletes to Auburn on offense, they don't drop passes, they're like a machine.
We leave those kinds of points on the field last night and both teams would have crushed K-State by 4 TD's easy.
you act like oklahoma and baylor are immune to having off games. did you catch any of the oklahoma/texas game last year? or the baylor/oklahoma state game?
and incidentally, both texas and oklahoma state who blew out the top 2 teams in the big 12 last season were soundly beaten by SEC teams.
Soundly beaten? I watched the Cotton Bowl and that game went deep into the fourth quarter. Plus, don't get me started on how the bottom feeders in the SEC never rise up and beat any of the good teams in the SEC anymore. It's an absolute feast for the top SEC teams against the bottom of the conference.
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Why are you so angry? I mean, I bet Bama didn't expect to be crushed by the Utah Utes in the Sugar Bowl a few years back did they? It happens, any knowledgeable fan of college football knows that week-to-week in season and the bowls are sometimes two different things entirely.
But the simple fact remains, when we've played Baylor and OU the last two years who have similar athletes to Auburn on offense, they don't drop passes, they're like a machine.
We leave those kinds of points on the field last night and both teams would have crushed K-State by 4 TD's easy.
you act like oklahoma and baylor are immune to having off games. did you catch any of the oklahoma/texas game last year? or the baylor/oklahoma state game?
and incidentally, both texas and oklahoma state who blew out the top 2 teams in the big 12 last season were soundly beaten by SEC teams.
In the Big 12, you have to face teams with a variety of offensive philosophies week to week. This year, three teams are terrible, so it won't be as bad as it's been in the past, but most years, there are 1 or 2 god awful teams and everyone else is solid to great. This guarantees a long stretch of games against teams that can score a lot of points. You can't even be a little off your game unless it happens to come against a team like KU or you won't be winning. That is why nobody has run the table in the league since it went to 10 teams.
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Why are you so angry? I mean, I bet Bama didn't expect to be crushed by the Utah Utes in the Sugar Bowl a few years back did they? It happens, any knowledgeable fan of college football knows that week-to-week in season and the bowls are sometimes two different things entirely.
But the simple fact remains, when we've played Baylor and OU the last two years who have similar athletes to Auburn on offense, they don't drop passes, they're like a machine.
We leave those kinds of points on the field last night and both teams would have crushed K-State by 4 TD's easy.
you act like oklahoma and baylor are immune to having off games. did you catch any of the oklahoma/texas game last year? or the baylor/oklahoma state game?
and incidentally, both texas and oklahoma state who blew out the top 2 teams in the big 12 last season were soundly beaten by SEC teams.
In the Big 12, you have to face teams with a variety of offensive philosophies week to week. This year, three teams are terrible, so it won't be as bad as it's been in the past, but most years, there are 1 or 2 god awful teams and everyone else is solid to great. This guarantees a long stretch of games against teams that can score a lot of points. You can't even be a little off your game unless it happens to come against a team like KU or you won't be winning. That is why nobody has run the table in the league since it went to 10 teams.
are you implying that there aren't a variety of offensive philosophies in the SEC?
and while the SEC was busy winning 7 national championships in a row, 5 of the teams were unable to get through conference play unscathed. what does that tell you about the depth and quality of the SEC? good enough to blow out ohio state, but not good enough to get by arkansas, ole miss, and kentucky. in 2011, lsu was good enough to hammer the pac-12 and big east champions... but not good enough to score a point in the title game against alabama.
i don't think the big 12 is a bad conference, but it's not nearly as good as the SEC right now by whatever measure you want to judge by.
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Why are you so angry? I mean, I bet Bama didn't expect to be crushed by the Utah Utes in the Sugar Bowl a few years back did they? It happens, any knowledgeable fan of college football knows that week-to-week in season and the bowls are sometimes two different things entirely.
But the simple fact remains, when we've played Baylor and OU the last two years who have similar athletes to Auburn on offense, they don't drop passes, they're like a machine.
We leave those kinds of points on the field last night and both teams would have crushed K-State by 4 TD's easy.
you act like oklahoma and baylor are immune to having off games. did you catch any of the oklahoma/texas game last year? or the baylor/oklahoma state game?
and incidentally, both texas and oklahoma state who blew out the top 2 teams in the big 12 last season were soundly beaten by SEC teams.
In the Big 12, you have to face teams with a variety of offensive philosophies week to week. This year, three teams are terrible, so it won't be as bad as it's been in the past, but most years, there are 1 or 2 god awful teams and everyone else is solid to great. This guarantees a long stretch of games against teams that can score a lot of points. You can't even be a little off your game unless it happens to come against a team like KU or you won't be winning. That is why nobody has run the table in the league since it went to 10 teams.
are you implying that there aren't a variety of offensive philosophies in the SEC?
and while the SEC was busy winning 7 national championships in a row, 5 of the teams were unable to get through conference play unscathed. what does that tell you about the depth and quality of the SEC? good enough to blow out ohio state, but not good enough to get by arkansas, ole miss, and kentucky. in 2011, lsu was good enough to hammer the pac-12 and big east champions... but not good enough to score a point in the title game against alabama.
i don't think the big 12 is a bad conference, but it's not nearly as good as the SEC right now by whatever measure you want to judge by.
It tells me that when you still get to play for the championship despite not coming out of your regular season unscathed, then you are probably going to win a lot more championships than other conferences that aren't guaranteed a spot in the game. Most of the teams in your conference get easy games against schools like Mississippi State, Tennessee, Florida, and Kentucky to break up your schedule. Plus, you only have to play 8 conference games total. That gives you a much easier schedule than you would have in a smaller conference where you have to play every school. As a fan of a former Big 12 North team, I can attest.
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Why are you so angry? I mean, I bet Bama didn't expect to be crushed by the Utah Utes in the Sugar Bowl a few years back did they? It happens, any knowledgeable fan of college football knows that week-to-week in season and the bowls are sometimes two different things entirely.
But the simple fact remains, when we've played Baylor and OU the last two years who have similar athletes to Auburn on offense, they don't drop passes, they're like a machine.
We leave those kinds of points on the field last night and both teams would have crushed K-State by 4 TD's easy.
you act like oklahoma and baylor are immune to having off games. did you catch any of the oklahoma/texas game last year? or the baylor/oklahoma state game?
and incidentally, both texas and oklahoma state who blew out the top 2 teams in the big 12 last season were soundly beaten by SEC teams.
In the Big 12, you have to face teams with a variety of offensive philosophies week to week. This year, three teams are terrible, so it won't be as bad as it's been in the past, but most years, there are 1 or 2 god awful teams and everyone else is solid to great. This guarantees a long stretch of games against teams that can score a lot of points. You can't even be a little off your game unless it happens to come against a team like KU or you won't be winning. That is why nobody has run the table in the league since it went to 10 teams.
are you implying that there aren't a variety of offensive philosophies in the SEC?
and while the SEC was busy winning 7 national championships in a row, 5 of the teams were unable to get through conference play unscathed. what does that tell you about the depth and quality of the SEC? good enough to blow out ohio state, but not good enough to get by arkansas, ole miss, and kentucky. in 2011, lsu was good enough to hammer the pac-12 and big east champions... but not good enough to score a point in the title game against alabama.
i don't think the big 12 is a bad conference, but it's not nearly as good as the SEC right now by whatever measure you want to judge by.
It tells me that when you still get to play for the championship despite not coming out of your regular season unscathed, then you are probably going to win a lot more championships than other conferences that aren't guaranteed a spot in the game.
guaranteed a spot in the game? are you referring to the SEC in the BCS era?
the only power 6 (AQ) conference team that went undefeated in the regular season (and then won their bowl game) and was denied a chance at playing for the national championship was in the SEC. it was auburn, 2004.
the SEC wasn't guaranteed anything. if anything the BCS was an unfavorable system to the SEC. for several years while other conferences weren't playing conference championship games, the SEC often had their 2 best teams duking it out... and if the lesser ranked team won, it would eliminate the conference from the title game while other top teams sat at home. furthermore, if the BCS selected the 8 (and then later 10) best teams for their games, the SEC would have routinely placed more than 2 teams in the games and brought in more money for the conference. however, automatic bids to teams that played far inferior schedules and the limit of 2 teams per conference prevented that from happening.
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Oh man this discussion is so interesting. Let's definitely continue having it.
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Oh man this discussion is so interesting. Let's definitely continue having it.
this is a pretty typical response when the evidence is presented to show how dominant the SEC is.
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Oh man this discussion is so interesting. Let's definitely continue having it.
this is a pretty typical response when the evidence is presented to show how dominant the SEC is.
Good posters were asked to stick around. Why are you still here?
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Oh man this discussion is so interesting. Let's definitely continue having it.
this is a pretty typical response when the evidence is presented to show how dominant the SEC is.
Good posters were asked to stick around. Why are you still here?
why don't you address the points i made? is it because you know you really don't have a leg to stand on?
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I don't get the bitterness here. Facts are facts.
Kansas State
2004 Fiesta Bowl - Loss to OSU 35 - 28
2008 Orange Bowl - Win over VaTech 24 - 21. Good game, good effort. Nice showing for the state!
2013 Fiesta Bowl - Loss to the Ducks 35 - 17
Auburn
2005 Sugar Bowl - Won 16 -13 over VaTech (undefeated team from the SEC didn't get in the champ game, instead a shitty Big XII team got rough ridin' destroyed by USC)
2011 WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP over the fightin' Phil Knights
2013 Lost to a shitty FSU team from the ACC :( Bama lost to a shitty team from the BigXII (notice a trend when Bama plays in a non championship BCS game?) and the BigXII revels in it like they won it all :excited:
You guys are 0-2 in big games and we're 2-1, with a natty and another appearance.
Big XII had 12 wins and 16 losses in the BCS era. OU won a championship, but lost three!?! Texas got you one with a guy that is right there with Jameis in terms of IQ. Nebraska made it and got destroyed by Miami. At least we had an exciting game vs FSU. Hold on, that's this board's moral victory stuff working it's way into me :'bye cruel world:
SEC mumped some skulls and went 17-10. 9 of those wins were for championships. 1 of the losses was LSU vs Bama.
Quit acting like your conference is more than it is. If it wasn't for OU (which is nothing more than an SEC coordinator running rampant in your conference and did a little for KSU beforehand) and Texas, you're basically the Mountain West. At least the SEC can say that we've had nearly half of our league win a national championship in the last 16 years.
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I don't get the bitterness here. Facts are facts.
Kansas State
2004 Fiesta Bowl - Loss to OSU 35 - 28
2008 Orange Bowl :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: - Win over VaTech 24 - 21. Good game, good effort. Nice showing for the state!
2013 Fiesta Bowl - Loss to the Ducks 35 - 17
Auburn
2005 Sugar Bowl - Won 16 -13 over VaTech (undefeated team from the SEC didn't get in the champ game, instead a shitty Big XII team got rough ridin' destroyed by USC)
2011 WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP over the fightin' Phil Knights
2013 Lost to a shitty FSU team from the ACC :( Bama lost to a shitty team from the BigXII (notice a trend when Bama plays in a non championship BCS game?) and the BigXII revels in it like they won it all :excited:
You guys are 0-2 in big games and we're 2-1, with a natty and another appearance.
Big XII had 12 wins and 16 losses in the BCS era. OU won a championship, but lost three!?! Texas got you one with a guy that is right there with Jameis in terms of IQ. Nebraska made it and got destroyed by Miami. At least we had an exciting game vs FSU. Hold on, that's this board's moral victory stuff working it's way into me :'bye cruel world:
SEC mumped some skulls and went 17-10. 9 of those wins were for championships. 1 of the losses was LSU vs Bama.
Quit acting like your conference is more than it is. If it wasn't for OU (which is nothing more than an SEC coordinator running rampant in your conference) and Texas, you're basically the Mountain West. At least the SEC can say that we've had nearly half of our league win a national championship in the last 16 years.
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Does it really count if you play Notre Dame in a BCS bowl game?
K-State didn't beat Virginia Tech, ku did. That tells you all you need to know about the ACC (except FSU the last year or so), zero credit given for beating an ACC school in a BCS bowl.
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Does it really count if you play Notre Dame in a BCS bowl game?
That KU thing was on purpose :peek:
It does sort of give me the warm fuzzies to the see the national hate of ND :cheers: Even as an Auburn fan, I loved watching 'Bama destroy them.
At the SEC level, there is a complete conference hatred of Tennessee, but they've been so bad for so long that it's starting to fade. A&M is quickly filling that void now.
And Mizz only did well because they play in the East. The East sucks, the West is pretty harsh.
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Does it really count if you play Notre Dame in a BCS bowl game?
K-State didn't beat Virginia Tech, ku did. That tells you all you need to know about the ACC (except FSU the last year or so), zero credit given for beating an ACC school in a BCS bowl.
that notre dame team might not have been that great, but they played a pretty good schedule and were undefeated with it.
of course what they didn't do was play an SEC schedule.
alabama showed that they would have been just another 8-4 team in the SEC.
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Does it really count if you play Notre Dame in a BCS bowl game?
That KU thing was on purpose :peek:
It does sort of give me the warm fuzzies to the see the national hate of ND :cheers: Even as an Auburn fan, I loved watching 'Bama destroy them.
At the SEC level, there is a complete conference hatred of Tennessee, but they've been so bad for so long that it's starting to fade. A&M is quickly filling that void now.
And Mizz only did well because they play in the East. The East sucks, the West is pretty harsh.
hmm, what made UTenn a target. Also, A&M is very, very weird. Their strange ways and traditions are kinda fascinating at first but the creepiness quickly ruins it. Pretty much any remotely cool A&M fan went there because they couldn't get into UT.
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Umm . . . ND had some decent wins, but they also played at least 5 games against horrible teams. You can't brag on an SEC team beating OU, when ND beat them as well.
Edit: ND had two fairly high quality wins OU (who lost 3 games) and Stanford (who lost 2). Otherwise it was all games against teams who hovered around .500 or were flat out awful, five games were against awful teams.
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Why are you so angry? I mean, I bet Bama didn't expect to be crushed by the Utah Utes in the Sugar Bowl a few years back did they? It happens, any knowledgeable fan of college football knows that week-to-week in season and the bowls are sometimes two different things entirely.
But the simple fact remains, when we've played Baylor and OU the last two years who have similar athletes to Auburn on offense, they don't drop passes, they're like a machine.
We leave those kinds of points on the field last night and both teams would have crushed K-State by 4 TD's easy.
you act like oklahoma and baylor are immune to having off games. did you catch any of the oklahoma/texas game last year? or the baylor/oklahoma state game?
and incidentally, both texas and oklahoma state who blew out the top 2 teams in the big 12 last season were soundly beaten by SEC teams.
Soundly beaten? I watched the Cotton Bowl and that game went deep into the fourth quarter. Plus, don't get me started on how the bottom feeders in the SEC never rise up and beat any of the good teams in the SEC anymore. It's an absolute feast for the top SEC teams against the bottom of the conference.
No, but bottom tier SEC team (Arkansas) sure do seem to stomp the hell out of middle of the road big12 teams (texas tech)
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Texas Tech is currently on a screaming train to maybe winning 1 possibly 2 Big 12 games at best, and as I said in another thread. Arkansas doesn't get a shot at the shitty SEC teams this year. That's why it's a stupid comparison.
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tech just fired their d-coordinator for being high on drugs while in the football complex. great win for that sec west team though.
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tech just fired their d-coordinator for being high on drugs while in the football complex. great win for that sec west team though.
Usually K-State alums can handle their drugs better. Pretty disappointed in Matt.
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Needs to be mentored by 8mp
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Umm . . . ND had some decent wins, but they also played at least 5 games against horrible teams. You can't brag on an SEC team beating OU, when ND beat them as well.
Edit: ND had two fairly high quality wins OU (who lost 3 games) and Stanford (who lost 2). Otherwise it was all games against teams who hovered around .500 or were flat out awful, five games were against awful teams.
they were also the only team with a "power 5" type schedule that was undefeated. and like it or not, they played a top 25 schedule.
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Man I never pegged The_Wippuh to be just another SEC SEC SEC meathead kind of guy. It's never enough for others to admit that the SEC is good. They demand you genuflect and say that the SEC should essentially be a separate division in CFB.
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You guys are just as responsible for this thread derail as the au fans. Sak has 100% valid posts. You would rather your team be shitty than admit au is top 10 material. I didnt expect this from you either.
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Man I never pegged The_Wippuh to be just another SEC SEC SEC meathead kind of guy. It's never enough for others to admit that the SEC is good. They demand you genuflect and say that the SEC should essentially be a separate division in CFB.
Nah, I'm not like that. I enjoy the self deprecation on both sides around here and all of the trolling. What I don't really care for is all of the BS around how the SEC is just gawd awful/overrated and that the Big XII is probably a superior league. That stuff is real out of character for the rest of the banter and I think that some of the guys around here are really hung up on it.
So, when those attacks come, I'll break character and defend my team/league.
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No one says the sec is terrible. The Big 10 is terrible. The sec is vastly overrated tho, and there is no way you guys don't see it
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Man I never pegged The_Wippuh to be just another SEC SEC SEC meathead kind of guy. It's never enough for others to admit that the SEC is good. They demand you genuflect and say that the SEC should essentially be a separate division in CFB.
Nah, I'm not like that. I enjoy the self deprecation on both sides around here and all of the trolling. What I don't really care for is all of the BS around how the SEC is just gawd awful/overrated and that the Big XII is probably a superior league. That stuff is real out of character for the rest of the banter and I think that some of the guys around here are really hung up on it.
So, when those attacks come, I'll break character and defend my team/league.
Rooting for your rivals is weird and irrational. I don't know what could compel a sports fan to do such a thing.
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If you don't want to hear the SEC hype, stop watching ESPN. I rarely hear any SEC hype.
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Man I never pegged The_Wippuh to be just another SEC SEC SEC meathead kind of guy. It's never enough for others to admit that the SEC is good. They demand you genuflect and say that the SEC should essentially be a separate division in CFB.
So, when those attacks come, I'll break character and defend my team/league.
My goodness, you're like some sort of dorky superhero.
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Right, for these SEC SEC types like wippuh, saying anything less than that other teams don't belong on the same field as SEC teams is a grave insult somehow.
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Come on, twist it how you want to, but I don't believe that at all.
I think the SEC is down this year and doesn't have a dominant team. Like Cole said, everything goes in cycles. The SEC is pretty damn good and the Big 10 sucks. Pac 10 is on the rise imho, etc... I honestly don't know where the Big XII falls into everything right now.
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sounds like the SEC is having an up year if nobody can separate
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The Red Raiders surrendered 438 rushing yards in a 49-28 loss to Arkansas last weekend.
:surprised:
Matt was high.
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sounds like the SEC is having an up year if nobody can separate
I understand that line of thinking, but I look at the team's now and I don't see one that I simply fear like we had in the past several seasons with Bama or LSU. Maybe it's Texas A&M right now, not sure. Alabama sure looked good once they stopped turning the ball over.
I personally think that Auburn may be ok, but they've got to get going soon as their tough schedule is going to kick off in 2 weeks (LSU > MSU > S. Carolina > Ole Miss > Texas A&M > Georgia). It will be almost impossible to go through that stretch undefeated.
Whichever team comes out of the West is going to be a beast in the playoff imo. They'll be harder than any other team out there.
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The delusion of the SEC-SEC-SEC chanters is simply off the charts in this thread... I try not to blame them wholly, but it is the perfect storm of a bunch of mouth-breathers that are force fed propaganda by ESPN. Trust me on this, if ESPN had gotten into bed with the Big XII or Pac-12, the talking points would be significantly different.
I'll just leave this here: http://totalfratmove.com/why-the-sec-is-bullshit/
Despite the medium it was posted on, if you can get past the fact that a college kid wrote it, he actually nailed it precisely.
:buh-bye:
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Its a way up year for the top part of the SEC. The bottom are still hot garbage with Missouri joining the total suck ranks.
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Its a way up year for the top part of the SEC. The bottom are still hot garbage with Missouri joining the total suck ranks.
Are you including the Mississippi State Stomping Bulldogs in the top part?
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i just don't get it.
all of the indices i rely on tell me that the SEC is trending upwards. yet many in this thread say just the opposite!!
what is going on here and why are there conflicting SEC theories? does anyone really know the truth?
if so, please send me a private message and i will discuss further.
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I have no problem with hyping Alabama, Auburn, & A&M right now, but the real issue is the middle of the road teams in the SEC get hyped just as much. LSU is obviously down. Miss State is better but still not good. South Carolina are you kidding me. They got hammered by A&M and had trouble this weekend with one of the worst programs out there. Missouri is showing their true colors. SO, to my account, the SEC has 2-3 real good teams and the rest are at best average. Guess what the other conferences excluding the Big Ten have 2-3 real good teams and average teams behind them.
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You guys are just as responsible for this thread derail as the au fans. Sak has 100% valid posts. You would rather your team be shitty than admit au is top 10 material. I didnt expect this from you either.
This is patently false. I don't get how you can be so delusional... AU will lose 3-5 games from here on out.
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The delusion of the SEC-SEC-SEC chanters is simply off the charts in this thread... I try not to blame them wholly, but it is the perfect storm of a bunch of mouth-breathers that are force fed propaganda by ESPN. Trust me on this, if ESPN had gotten into bed with the Big XII or Pac-12, the talking points would be significantly different.
I'll just leave this here: http://totalfratmove.com/why-the-sec-is-bullshit/
Despite the medium it was posted on, if you can get past the fact that a college kid wrote it, he actually nailed it precisely.
:buh-bye:
so according to that article, from AU's reference, KSU = powderpuff?? The article goes on and on about MIZZ and AaM, but AU has handled them both.
Also, this:First of all, it’s not everyone else’s damn fault that THE Ohio State crap the bed–twice–because they’re rough ridin' overrated and play nobody and yet still get the benefit of the polls. Then you have the year Oklahoma got thumped by Florida, which happened to be the year of the controversial three-way tie between OU, Texas, and Texas Tech–the latter two teams were certainly more prepared to face the Tebow-led Gators
is complete horseshit.
Id say the article is onto something though, about AaM/Mizz offense having some success in the SEC.
You havent spent much time on the AU message boards I take it, the consensus is that Gary and Verne from CBS, along with all the ESPN crew, are dipshits.
The fact is that since 2003, 10 of the BCSCG competitors (4 unique SEC teams) have 8 wins.
I have written a computer program, I usually give a season about 6 weeks before I run it. Its basically a quality win calculator where each div1 win nets a team 1 point. and that winner gets 1/2 point for all it's beaten opponents' wins. and then recurses to next level for 1/4 point, and so on down to like 64 levels is where I just cut it off. I developed it when AU was left out of the BCSCG in 2004, and my calc results agreed with the BCS. Ill run it again soon. There's no bias, polls, or any BS, just straight math. Every year proves the SEC is very rough ridin' strong.
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Champions are born not calculated you slobbering mongoloid.
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These morons can't separate the top 2-3 teams from the rest of the conf. They literally do not understand why everyone says the sec as a whole is overrated.
Talking about the victories of teams everyone here agrees are good is irrelevant, but you're too dumb to understand why
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Get with the times bro, they got this new thing this year called the playoff, where they will use stats and math n crap
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Get with the times bro, they got this new thing this year called the playoff, where they will use stats and math n crap
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You can't be serious. It's a rough ridin' popularity contest with ESPN running the gottdam campaigns.
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Get with the times bro, they got this new thing this year called the playoff, where they will use stats and math n crap
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You can't be serious. It's a rough ridin' popularity contest with ESPN running the gottdam campaigns.
Yep. :thumbs:
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Get with the times bro, they got this new thing this year called the playoff, where they will use stats and math n crap
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You can't be serious. It's a rough ridin' popularity contest with ESPN running the gottdam campaigns.
send your sarcasm meter back for recal, bro.
like i said before, not many from AU particularly cares for the CBS or ESPN crew. see the phrase "math n crap" in retort to the insane "champions are born thing". if that is true, then by what abhorration of nature are you all here?
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forgive me, oc... you were standing too close to that mouth-breathing sak and I erroneously lumped you into the same group.
:buh-bye:
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well to be fair he has made a few points that you guys refuse to counter. I quoted one of them somewhere but cant find it. well may not have been him but I still cant find whatever it was with the search
still hoping for a cotton bowl rematch.
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Good grief nobody is saying Auburn, Alabama, or even ATM are garbage. Mostly we are saying they are perennially overrated. And that if the parody in the SEC were anything like the Big 12 where we play everyone, more of the top teams would have 1-2 loss seasons rather than going undefeated. I respect the top 3 maybe 4 teams in the SEC but the huge disparity between them and the rest of college football that the media wants to push is a bunch of crap. You can talk all you want about what you think "proves" superiority but we are not buying. It's still subjective and too small a sample size to compare bowl games over a decade of time where dynamics change and powers shift. This whole argument is getting old and nobody is going to convince use one way or you another.
I guess I'm saying the top 2-3 Big 12 teams could walk into SEC and compete, just as the top 2-3 SEC teams could go into the Big 12 and compete. But I don't believe it would be the domination that everyone wants you to believe.
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^ parody post ^
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I have written a computer program, I usually give a season about 6 weeks before I run it. Its basically a quality win calculator where each div1 win nets a team 1 point. and that winner gets 1/2 point for all it's beaten opponents' wins. and then recurses to next level for 1/4 point, and so on down to like 64 levels is where I just cut it off. I developed it when AU was left out of the BCSCG in 2004, and my calc results agreed with the BCS. Ill run it again soon. There's no bias, polls, or any BS, just straight math. Every year proves the SEC is very rough ridin' strong.
Change it so Power 5 schools get more weight, then non-P5 FBS schools, then FCS schools. :)
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I have written a computer program, I usually give a season about 6 weeks before I run it. Its basically a quality win calculator where each div1 win nets a team 1 point. and that winner gets 1/2 point for all it's beaten opponents' wins. and then recurses to next level for 1/4 point, and so on down to like 64 levels is where I just cut it off. I developed it when AU was left out of the BCSCG in 2004, and my calc results agreed with the BCS. Ill run it again soon. There's no bias, polls, or any BS, just straight math. Every year proves the SEC is very rough ridin' strong.
Change it so Power 5 schools get more weight, then non-P5 FBS schools, then FCS schools. :)
well with the design, what you say isnt needed. if you beat a power 5 conf school, then you end up getting additional points for that power5 school's wins. (unless you suggest it needs even more weight) I just dont give any points for an FCS school, to punish a school for scheduling too much of a cupcake.
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I think Sagarin has a pretty nice computer model. It's not perfect, but as long as everyone knows how to game it equally, I really have no problem just using his computer to rank the teams and fill out a playoff bracket. If the playoffs were expanded, just going with conference champions with no at large teams would be pretty nice, too. It wouldn't give us all of the best teams, but it would be a lot of fun.
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P5 champs and 3 wildcards sounds the most fun
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P5 champs and 3 wildcards sounds the most fun
yes. AT LEAST 8, but 16 would be most fun IYAM... Probably a long way off.
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We will not get to 16 in our lifetimes.
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16 is too many, imo but whatever
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We will not get to 16 in our lifetimes.
If it makes financial sense to the right investors, we will.
:kstategrad:
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We will not get to 16 in our lifetimes.
If it makes financial sense to the right investors, we will.
:kstategrad:
I'd be up for 32 if we eliminated all the other bowls. And playing a team before doesn't change where you are slotted.
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I'd be up for 32 if we eliminated all the other bowls. And playing a team before doesn't change where you are slotted.
I'm of the belief that 16 and some sort of bowl structure for #'s 17-60ish would be ideal, but obviously it's not my choice.
The biggest challenge that I see with 32 is that the teams who wouldn't make the field wouldn't get enough games in total because of expanding playoff to 5 games for the champ game participants.
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I'd be up for 32 if we eliminated all the other bowls. And playing a team before doesn't change where you are slotted.
I'm of the belief that 16 and some sort of bowl structure for #'s 17-60ish would be ideal, but obviously it's not my choice.
The biggest challenge that I see with 32 is that the teams who wouldn't make the field wouldn't get enough games in total because of expanding playoff to 5 games for the champ game participants.
Make an irrelevant bracket for them...? :dunno:
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12 would be great with the top 4 getting a bye week, but 8 would be great too.
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Screenshot from a new feature on AU Undercover. Note Coach Crowe's choice of refreshment.
lol
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Looks like the whippersnapper on the right is explaining the physics behind the vortex bottle.
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Looks like the whippersnapper on the right is explaining the physics behind the vortex bottle.
:lol:
It might be behind a pay wall, not sure, but here is the link:
http://auburn.247sports.com/Article/AuburnUndercovercom-hosts-Auburn-Intel-31456760
Coach Crowe sings the praises of Snyder; among other things he says "There is a reason his name is on that stadium."
EDIT: The post game analysis ends at the 13.00 mark.
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that's a nice set you guys have there
poker table...check
pom poms...check
footballs in boxes...check
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that's a nice set you guys have there
poker table...check
pom poms...check
footballs in boxes...check
I know, right?
Don't forget the Bo Jackson and Cam Newton jerseys on the wall.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.inthenewsonline.com%2FPortals%2F96331%2Fimages%2Fwaynesworldnotworthy.gif&hash=72572a749d52d0b1078bd8fa4bee2490a20b6659)
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that's a nice set you guys have there
poker table...check
pom poms...check
footballs in boxes...check
I know, right?
just kind of sad that a SEC school has to shoot their football shows in a college kid's basement.
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that's a nice set you guys have there
poker table...check
pom poms...check
footballs in boxes...check
I know, right?
just kind of sad that a SEC school has to shoot their football shows in a college kid's basement.
Lol
No college kid could ever have that kind of memorabilia in his man cave.
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that's a nice set you guys have there
poker table...check
pom poms...check
footballs in boxes...check
I know, right?
just kind of sad that a SEC school has to shoot their football shows in a college kid's basement.
Lol
No college kid could ever have that kind of memorabilia in his man cave.
Both Cam &/or Bo could've afforded all that and more while at AU.
:dubious:
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that's a nice set you guys have there
poker table...check
pom poms...check
footballs in boxes...check
I know, right?
just kind of sad that a SEC school has to shoot their football shows in a college kid's basement.
Lol
No college kid could ever have that kind of memorabilia in his man cave.
Both Cam &/or Bo could've afforded all that and more while at AU.
:dubious:
:jerk:
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Did I ever congratulate for being just the second AU person I've ever met who won't/can't admit that Cam got paid? That was awesome.
:ksu:
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Did I ever congratulate for being just the second AU person I've ever met who won't/can't admit that Cam got paid? That was awesome.
:ksu:
Don't get out much, do you?
:lol:
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We will not get to 16 in our lifetimes.
:horrorsurprise:
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Did I ever congratulate for being just the second AU person I've ever met who won't/can't admit that Cam got paid? That was awesome.
:ksu:
Don't get out much, do you?
:lol:
It's just so adorable... the naivete. The other is a blond 20-something with giant, blonde 'Bama hair.
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My humble is opinion is that KSU has a pretty damn good team. Whatever you cats want to say is fine but I know Auburn has a great team this year so I am not worried about them. Also, you guys are selling yourselves short on your team. From what I saw, and what I know about Auburn, KSU should have an outstanding year. Matter of fact, I hope you guys do because those players fought their asses off last night. I believe this game will be like Auburns last year against LSU. Its the game where the lights truly came on even in a loss.
Meh. Auburn is a 3 loss team this year and K-State is a 5 loss team. No biggie.
Lets discuss this again in November.
Ok, lets try even earlier.
Not to bring up old wounds but I wanted to say congratulations thus far in your season. I know we're only half way there and many tough games to go but there are reasons to celebrate.
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My humble is opinion is that KSU has a pretty damn good team. Whatever you cats want to say is fine but I know Auburn has a great team this year so I am not worried about them. Also, you guys are selling yourselves short on your team. From what I saw, and what I know about Auburn, KSU should have an outstanding year. Matter of fact, I hope you guys do because those players fought their asses off last night. I believe this game will be like Auburns last year against LSU. Its the game where the lights truly came on even in a loss.
Meh. Auburn is a 3 loss team this year and K-State is a 5 loss team. No biggie.
Lets discuss this again in November.
Ok, lets try even earlier.
Not to bring up old wounds but I wanted to say congratulations thus far in your season. I know we're only half way there and many tough games to go but there are reasons to celebrate.
We can't afford to have you guys lose again,not sure running the table will get us in if you guys lose anymore.Don't eff up
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My humble is opinion is that KSU has a pretty damn good team. Whatever you cats want to say is fine but I know Auburn has a great team this year so I am not worried about them. Also, you guys are selling yourselves short on your team. From what I saw, and what I know about Auburn, KSU should have an outstanding year. Matter of fact, I hope you guys do because those players fought their asses off last night. I believe this game will be like Auburns last year against LSU. Its the game where the lights truly came on even in a loss.
Meh. Auburn is a 3 loss team this year and K-State is a 5 loss team. No biggie.
Lets discuss this again in November.
Ok, lets try even earlier.
Not to bring up old wounds but I wanted to say congratulations thus far in your season. I know we're only half way there and many tough games to go but there are reasons to celebrate.
We can't afford to have you guys lose again,not sure running the table will get us in if you guys lose anymore.Don't eff up
If running the table doesn't get us in, then it will be a year one nail in the coffin of suggesting that the CFP is geared towards rewarding tough OOC matchups. It will completely reinforce powderpuff scheduling as being statistically advantageous.
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If AU runs the table, then that would mean beating possibly a top 5 ranked Ole Miss, Georgia and Alabama on the road at the time of playing them. That is tough thing to overcome but many of us AU fans believe the loss to MSU and a bye week may have actually helped. I would say the same for KSU in the remaining schedule with what you guys still face. It should be fun to watch. After watching a few games you guys have played, I certainly think KSU has a real chance to be the Big 12 rep in the playoffs.
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If AU runs the table, then that would mean beating possibly a top 5 ranked Ole Miss, Georgia and Alabama on the road at the time of playing them. That is tough thing to overcome but many of us AU fans believe the loss to MSU and a bye week may have actually helped. I would say the same for KSU in the remaining schedule with what you guys still face. It should be fun to watch. After watching a few games you guys have played, I certainly think KSU has a real chance to be the Big 12 rep in the playoffs.
Good luck with the rest of the season... BEAT BAMA...ROLL SNYD
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If AU runs the table, then that would mean beating possibly a top 5 ranked Ole Miss, Georgia and Alabama on the road at the time of playing them. That is tough thing to overcome but many of us AU fans believe the loss to MSU and a bye week may have actually helped. I would say the same for KSU in the remaining schedule with what you guys still face. It should be fun to watch. After watching a few games you guys have played, I certainly think KSU has a real chance to be the Big 12 rep in the playoffs.
Good luck with the rest of the season... BEAT BAMA...ROLL SNYD
Thanks man.
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not sure where to post this, so i guess I'll just leave it here...
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/auburn-fan-writes-open-letter-mistreatment-athens/
woof
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you sure a Nebraska fan didn't write that?
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Would never have written a word of that if they hadn't gotten dusted.
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Can you imagine the mugs those fillies must be sporting? Woof...
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We called it an early night and got the hell out of dodge.
Comparing Dodge to that trash, eh? That's it, I'm writing a letter.
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Is there anything more satisfying to the average idiot fan than writing an open letter to the opposing fanbase after they went to a game where they got destroyed, complaining about how they were treated?
Also, what elements does such a loser letter have to contain? My top 5 would be:
1. Start with a compliment, that way you aren't just a pissed off fan of the losing team;
2. Gotta have girls with you who cry because they were literally scared someone would assault them;
3. spitting!;
4. you did nothing wrong to provoke; and
5. drink throwing (lots of college students like to waste their alcohol to show visiting fans what's what).
Any others?
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I think he needs a diaper change
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From the Georgia fan's response (linked in that article):
Regarding the drinks spilled on them, I think there is just a gap in school culture between Georgia and Auburn that helps to explain this. Georgia is a nationally known party school with notorious party bars- while Auburn has a fun party scene of their own, it is not the same in either size or magnitude.
Even as a Georgia fan, I have had drinks spilled on me in downtown Athens every calendar day of the week. Multiply a large party school by a Saturday night by a game day by a night game by a rivalry game by the first home game in over 40 days by a Gurley return and you’ve got the makings of a perfect storm for chaos. Every single bar in Athens was packed shoulder to shoulder that night making it impossible to breathe let alone keep a liquid in a cup.
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mhk really spoiled letter_writing_aggie
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Is there anything more satisfying to the average idiot fan than writing an open letter to the opposing fanbase after they went to a game where they got destroyed, complaining about how they were treated?
Also, what elements does such a loser letter have to contain? My top 5 would be:
1. Start with a compliment, that way you aren't just a pissed off fan of the losing team;
2. Gotta have girls with you who cry because they were literally scared someone would assault them;
3. spitting!;
4. you did nothing wrong to provoke; and
5. drink throwing (lots of college students like to waste their alcohol to show visiting fans what's what).
Any others?
This is the perfect beginning to just creating a template that could be hosted online for average idiot fan open letters to opposing fanbases... Would save a lot of average idiot fans a crap ton of time if there was something available online where all they had to do was cut/paste and change out the teams and locale.
:lol:
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They must not have heard of throwing batteries or sandwiches.
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They must not have heard of throwing batteries or sandwiches.
I almost included red hot pennies
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Is there anything more satisfying to the average idiot fan than writing an open letter to the opposing fanbase after they went to a game where they got destroyed, complaining about how they were treated?
Also, what elements does such a loser letter have to contain? My top 5 would be:
1. Start with a compliment, that way you aren't just a pissed off fan of the losing team;
2. Gotta have girls with you who cry because they were literally scared someone would assault them;
3. spitting!;
4. you did nothing wrong to provoke; and
5. drink throwing (lots of college students like to waste their alcohol to show visiting fans what's what).
Any others?
To go for the open letter hay-maker, one might purport urine in lieu of/addition to spitting.
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They must not have heard of throwing batteries or sandwiches.
I almost included red hot pennies
Yes!
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My humble is opinion is that KSU has a pretty damn good team. Whatever you cats want to say is fine but I know Auburn has a great team this year so I am not worried about them. Also, you guys are selling yourselves short on your team. From what I saw, and what I know about Auburn, KSU should have an outstanding year. Matter of fact, I hope you guys do because those players fought their asses off last night. I believe this game will be like Auburns last year against LSU. Its the game where the lights truly came on even in a loss.
Meh. Auburn is a 3 loss team this year and K-State is a 5 loss team. No biggie.
Lets discuss this again in November.
OH HEY IT'S NOVEMBER
Let's see:
Auburn IS a three loss team (at least.)
K-State IS NOT likely to be a five loss team.
Looks like you need to eat some crow _33.
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you could argue that this was our worst home loss since 09 missouri. we lost to a team that lost to two teams that lost 59-0.