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Kris kobach, great guy
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Just following the law. What a guy!
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Barack Obama: 38% approval rating (Gallup) and all.
Barack Obama: Solid, decisive leadership on the world stage.
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This one's easy, Bob McDonnell. Stud.
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KOBACH DAY!!!!!!
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What did this stud do?
Gonna win 'em all!
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What did this stud do?
Gonna win 'em all!
Fixed the Kansas senatorial election (not repaired)
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Yep, decided the race before lunch then prob hit a super long cocktail lunch and some laser tag and pretended to shoot a bunch of brown ppl or something.
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This is actually pretty hilarious. Taylor's such a dumbass that he couldn't even correctly follow the law. Now he's going to have a file a lawsuit to prove that he'd be incapable of serving if he was elected. :lol:
"You're honor, let's face it - I'm a rough ridin' idiot. You'd be better off electing that potted plant over there. Seriously - I am so incompetent that I would simply be incapable of serving if elected."
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Oh my lord, it just keeps getting better and better.
Early Thursday, Kansas Democratic Party chairwoman Joan Wagnon said her party's legal plans were still under review. But she asid Kobach has injected himself into the ballot dispute.
"He is partisan, and mean, and he has made an unmitigated mess of our electoral system," she said.
:roflol:
HE'S A MEANY!!!
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OH MY LORD
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Kris kobach, great guy
:bang: :curse: :angry:
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Liberals are afraid too many dumb asses will vote for the democrat.
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Oh my lord, it just keeps getting better and better.
Early Thursday, Kansas Democratic Party chairwoman Joan Wagnon said her party's legal plans were still under review. But she asid Kobach has injected himself into the ballot dispute.
"He is partisan, and mean, and he has made an unmitigated mess of our electoral system," she said.
:roflol:
HE'S A MEANY!!!
What does asid mean?
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only way you leave the primary election ballot is in a box
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Just read a few articles on the Kansas issue, doesn't sound like Rocket Surgery, why don't some people seem to understand that you can't just up and decide you don't want to run anymore once you reach a certain point? Why can't some people understand that all kinds of shenanigans can go down (for either side) if you just let candidates withdraw any old way they want for any reason they want . . . once you reach a certain point in the process?
Oh wait, the outrage is because Kobach (not a fan) is a Republican and the candidate in question is a Democrat. Political paradigm much?
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Just read a few articles on the Kansas issue, doesn't sound like Rocket Surgery, why don't some people seem to understand that you can't just up and decide you don't want to run anymore once you reach a certain point? Why can't some people understand that all kinds of shenanigans can go down (for either side) if you just let candidates withdraw any old way they want for any reason they want . . . once you reach a certain point in the process?
Oh wait, the outrage is because Kobach (not a fan) is a Republican and the candidate in question is a Democrat. Political paradigm much?
The outrage is because Taylor withdrew before the deadline and Kobach decided not to let him.
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Just read a few articles on the Kansas issue, doesn't sound like Rocket Surgery, why don't some people seem to understand that you can't just up and decide you don't want to run anymore once you reach a certain point? Why can't some people understand that all kinds of shenanigans can go down (for either side) if you just let candidates withdraw any old way they want for any reason they want . . . once you reach a certain point in the process?
Oh wait, the outrage is because Kobach (not a fan) is a Republican and the candidate in question is a Democrat. Political paradigm much?
The outrage is because Taylor withdrew before the deadline and Kobach decided not to let him.
According to the articles I read in Kansas newspapers, you can't just withdraw at this point. A candidate must state that they are incapable of carrying through with the duties of the office if elected.
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Not gE'ing.....why would someone be stopped from withdrawing? Seems dumb. If he doesn't want to run, then let him quit.
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Just read a few articles on the Kansas issue, doesn't sound like Rocket Surgery, why don't some people seem to understand that you can't just up and decide you don't want to run anymore once you reach a certain point? Why can't some people understand that all kinds of shenanigans can go down (for either side) if you just let candidates withdraw any old way they want for any reason they want . . . once you reach a certain point in the process?
Oh wait, the outrage is because Kobach (not a fan) is a Republican and the candidate in question is a Democrat. Political paradigm much?
The outrage is because Taylor withdrew before the deadline and Kobach decided not to let him.
According to the articles I read in Kansas newspapers, you can't just withdraw at this point. A candidate must state that they are incapable of carrying through with the duties of the office if elected.
If you don't want to be on the ballot, I would say that makes you incapable. Pretty hard to perform a job you refuse to do.
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It makes perfect sense that you can't withdraw after the primary.
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The article I read this morning said Taylor called the elections office and asked specifically what his letter had to say to withdraw, drafted his letter, called the office back, went over the wording and specifically asked if that covered all it needed to, was told it did, submitted the letter on the last day to withdraw from the election, then Kobach reviewed the letter the next day and said it technically didn't cover everything. Kobach's office either misled taylor, is playing some semantics games, or something of the like.
"Yesterday afternoon, I contacted Brad Bryant, Director of Elections and Legislative Matters for the Kansas Secretary of State’s Office, to inquire about the requisite steps needed to terminate my candidacy for United State Senate and to withdraw my name from the ballot," explained Taylor. "Mr. Bryant provided explicit instructions as to the information required in the letter to remove my name. I proceeded to draft and deliver a letter to the Kansas Secretary of State’s Office of Elections, giving notice of my withdrawal from the United States Senate race. I specifically asked Mr. Bryant if the letter contained all the information necessary to remove my name from the ballot. Mr. Bryant said, 'Yes.'"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/09/04/kansas-secretary-of-state-says-taylor-cannot-be-removed-from-ballot/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/09/04/kansas-secretary-of-state-says-taylor-cannot-be-removed-from-ballot/)
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Just because the person that answered the phone didn't know the specific statute doesn't excuse him from following the law.
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Just because the person that answered the phone didn't know the specific statute doesn't excuse him from following the law.
I agree, Mr. Kobach, but there is something to be said for "the person" being the Director of Elections and Legislative Matters. If there is one guy in the state that should know the process, protocols, and laws regarding elections, it should be this specific person who answered the phone. So, either the director of the process is completely incompetent, or the statement that there is no political agenda is pretty stupid.
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So who appointed this election guy?
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While I agree there is politics being played here . . . but a hearty :lol: at those who think candidates should be allowed to withdraw any old time they want. Way to think it through people. :lol:
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Just because the person that answered the phone didn't know the specific statute doesn't excuse him from following the law.
I agree, Mr. Kobach, but there is something to be said for "the person" being the Director of Elections and Legislative Matters. If there is one guy in the state that should know the process, protocols, and laws regarding elections, it should be this specific person who answered the phone. So, either the director of the process is completely incompetent, or the statement that there is no political agenda is pretty stupid.
Is it so hard to believe a government employee is incompetent?
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While I agree there is politics being played here . . . but a hearty :lol: at those who think candidates should be allowed to withdraw any old time they want. Way to think it through people. :lol:
If someone told you that you have until next Monday to do something, you coordinate with them just how it is to be done, then execute on Monday, would you not agree that timing wasn't an issue?
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Just because the person that answered the phone didn't know the specific statute doesn't excuse him from following the law.
I agree, Mr. Kobach, but there is something to be said for "the person" being the Director of Elections and Legislative Matters. If there is one guy in the state that should know the process, protocols, and laws regarding elections, it should be this specific person who answered the phone. So, either the director of the process is completely incompetent, or the statement that there is no political agenda is pretty stupid.
Is it so hard to believe a government employee is incompetent?
Of course not, however, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the Director to be let go, reprimanded, or reassigned anytime soon, even though he just was second to center in a national article about something being mishandled again in our state.
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There is also a law that states the democrat party still needs to offer up a candidate should Taylor's request be granted, so there will still be a democrat on the ballot to draw the large uninformed vote.
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I read an article and I'm not sure it was completely clear. I am curious as to this whole thing. If someone could see if my take is roughly accurate without partisan bullshit, I would appreciate it.
Taylor wants out so his votes will likely go to an Independent (non-tea party) candidate. Kobach wants him on the ballot so that anti-Roberts votes will be split and Roberts is more likely to retain his seat. Also, who is this independent and why do they have a realistic shot at winning as an independent?
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There is also a law that states the democrat party still needs to offer up a candidate should Taylor's request be granted, so there will still be a democrat on the ballot to draw the large uninformed vote.
(D) that's all that matters.
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I read an article and I'm not sure it was completely clear. I am curious as to this whole thing. If someone could see if my take is roughly accurate without partisan bullshit, I would appreciate it.
Taylor wants out so his votes will likely go to an Independent (non-tea party) candidate. Kobach wants him on the ballot so that anti-Roberts votes will be split and Roberts is more likely to retain his seat. Also, who is this independent and why do they have a realistic shot at winning as an independent?
The independent is Greg Orman. He has a better shot because he has raised considerably more money than the democrat, Chad Taylor. He also is not a democrat, and this is Kansas.
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I read an article and I'm not sure it was completely clear. I am curious as to this whole thing. If someone could see if my take is roughly accurate without partisan bullshit, I would appreciate it.
Taylor wants out so his votes will likely go to an Independent (non-tea party) candidate. Kobach wants him on the ballot so that anti-Roberts votes will be split and Roberts is more likely to retain his seat. Also, who is this independent and why do they have a realistic shot at winning as an independent?
The independent is Greg Orman. He has a better shot because he has raised considerably more money than the democrat, Chad Taylor. He also is not a democrat, and this is Kansas.
What a strange set of affairs.
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Just read a few articles on the Kansas issue, doesn't sound like Rocket Surgery, why don't some people seem to understand that you can't just up and decide you don't want to run anymore once you reach a certain point? Why can't some people understand that all kinds of shenanigans can go down (for either side) if you just let candidates withdraw any old way they want for any reason they want . . . once you reach a certain point in the process?
Oh wait, the outrage is because Kobach (not a fan) is a Republican and the candidate in question is a Democrat. Political paradigm much?
The outrage is because Taylor withdrew before the deadline and Kobach decided not to let him.
According to the articles I read in Kansas newspapers, you can't just withdraw at this point. A candidate must state that they are incapable of carrying through with the duties of the office if elected.
If you don't want to be on the ballot, I would say that makes you incapable. Pretty hard to perform a job you refuse to do.
Incapable = cannot. Not "I don't wanna." The rule is in place to prevent a political party from doing exactly what the Democrats are trying to do - game the system late in the election cycle.
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Candidates drop out all the time and endorse other candidates. I don't see how dropping out is any worse than trying to force someone to stay on to help the incumbent. Regardless, what a ridiculous affair.
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Candidates drop out all the time and endorse other candidates. I don't see how dropping out is any worse than trying to force someone to stay on to help the incumbent. Regardless, what a ridiculous affair.
He won the democrat primary. If you want to drop out you need to do it before the primary election.
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President Barak Obama for authorizing yet another strike which targets America's enemies. This time, by the direction of President Obama, the United States has killed the notorious leader of Al-Shabaab. Its times like this I'm glad we have a president who is willing to strike against our enemies, instead of that other president who decided to disband the intelligence groups where were in charge of hunting the terrorist formally known as Osama Bin Laden.
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While I agree there is politics being played here . . . but a hearty :lol: at those who think candidates should be allowed to withdraw any old time they want. Way to think it through people. :lol:
There could have been tampering. You can't just roll over on this stuff.
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Likelihood of another Illini #failseason making you grumpy Bread?
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Likelihood of another Illini #failseason making you grumpy Bread?
I'm not mad everytime I talk to you dax. Just some of the times, but never at you.
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Likelihood of another Illini #failseason making you grumpy Bread?
I'm not mad everytime I talk to you dax. Just some of the times, but never at you.
Okay
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This was a nice little exchange and I'm pleased we could share it with each other.
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While I agree there is politics being played here . . . but a hearty :lol: at those who think candidates should be allowed to withdraw any old time they want. Way to think it through people. :lol:
There could have been tampering. You can't just roll over on this stuff.
:lol:
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Isn't the government slash politics just the worst? I mean, THE WORST
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Politics is a mean nasty busineess. If they can't find some dirt on you, they make up stories like your dog whizzes on babies and you told some old crabby lady she can eat dogfood and crutons if her Social security runs out. The trouble really is this madness does not end. When the election is over we need statesmen in Congress who work to find reasonable solutions. We need more senators like Roberts and Moran. An independent such as Orman in the Senate is like a turd in a banna split. Orman would not be able to protect any KS interest. He would have to align himself with Harry Reid, the anti-statesman,
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He's certainly not the best person in the world, but John "I'm a War Hero" Kerry got at least one thing right today when he turned to directly respond to the Kode Pink Krazies disrupting his senate testimony.
Shortly before the hearing began before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, protesters from the anti- war group Code Pink – a prevalent sight on the Hill in recent days as lawmakers engaged in debate about arming Syrian rebels – stood up, held signs and chanted “No more war!”
Deviating from his prepared remarks, Kerry turned his attention to the protesters, seated in the front row of the hearing room, and told them that while he was sympathetic to their opposition to war, if they believed in the broader mission of Code Pink, “then you ought to care about fighting ISIL.”
Stressing that the Islamic State was “killing and raping and mutilating women” and “making a mockery of a peaceful religion,” Kerry told the protesters: “There is no negotiation with ISIL.”
Point Kerry. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/john-kerry-isil-ground-troops-111071.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/john-kerry-isil-ground-troops-111071.html)
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see, "swift boat kerry" is so much catchier than "our dithering weakling"
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see, "swift boat kerry" is so much catchier than "our dithering weakling"
Hey man, don't be a critic. If you got something that's more catchy to describe Obama's complete foreign policy ineptitude, let's have it. All serious suggestions will be considered.
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Hey man, don't be a critic.
:thumbs:
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Hey man, don't be a critic.
:thumbs:
a thumbs up rating is definitely something a critic would do.
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ODW is too wordy
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ODW is too wordy
ODW is good, or better would be ODDub. Rolls off the tongue.
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The rabid rightests on shaggy use "golfing hussein fundraiser"
Much more clever/catchy
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The rabid rightests on shaggy use "golfing hussein fundraiser"
Much more clever/catchy
Shaggy non sports bbs'n is definitely a guilty pleasure of mine.