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Title: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 19, 2014, 04:04:29 PM
Have we talked about this?

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BREAKING: Islamic State, in video titled "A Message to America," beheads American journalist James Wright Foley



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uK0fXM9MRI&feature=youtu.be

 :sdeek:
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Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on August 19, 2014, 04:05:03 PM
Yea, I'm not watching that.
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Post by: puniraptor on August 19, 2014, 04:06:36 PM
i have no desire to watch anyone beheaded

and you got beat by a minute or two in the mosul tikrit etc thread
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on August 19, 2014, 04:07:41 PM
There are much more important things going on Wacky. A gentle giant beat up a cop and was shot.
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Post by: michigancat on August 19, 2014, 04:11:05 PM
There are much more important things going on Wacky. A gentle giant beat up a cop and was shot.

who died and made you the board "what's most important" cop?
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Post by: SdK on August 19, 2014, 04:15:16 PM
Missed it.
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on August 19, 2014, 04:15:48 PM
There are much more important things going on Wacky. A gentle giant beat up a cop and was shot.

who died and made you the board "what's most important" cop?

Has anybody heard from steve dave lately?
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Post by: michigancat on August 19, 2014, 04:18:16 PM
And I will say that nothing could be better for ISIS than the US escalating our fight against them. I mean, they're obviously trying to pick a fight, and I hope we don't give them what they want.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 19, 2014, 04:30:07 PM
And the video has already been removed.
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Post by: SdK on August 19, 2014, 04:36:42 PM
Was gone less than eleven minutes after you posted the link.   :dunno:
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 19, 2014, 04:40:05 PM
Was gone less than eleven minutes after you posted the link.   :dunno:
Interesting.
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Post by: SdK on August 19, 2014, 04:43:14 PM
It'll resurface.
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Post by: michigancat on August 19, 2014, 04:49:18 PM
You friggin sickos
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 19, 2014, 04:50:37 PM
You friggin sickos
Not really. I was more interested in the comment section. That thing was barely out for 20 minutes and it already had a 1000 likes. Wtf?!
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Post by: SdK on August 19, 2014, 05:04:12 PM
I think ISIS is just saying that death from above is just death all the same.
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Post by: 'taterblast on August 19, 2014, 06:07:36 PM
so it was the actual beheading video? or just a news clip about it?
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 19, 2014, 06:10:29 PM
There are much more important things going on Wacky. A gentle giant beat up a cop and was shot.

who died and made you the board "what's most important" cop?

If it means protecting Kurdish enclaves than . . . bombs away.

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Post by: 'taterblast on August 19, 2014, 06:14:19 PM
There are much more important things going on Wacky. A gentle giant beat up a cop and was shot.

who died and made you the board "what's most important" cop?

james wright foley
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: SdK on August 19, 2014, 06:14:32 PM
I'm not sure what the point of the video was. They were already doing things far worse than beheading an adult male.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 19, 2014, 06:21:22 PM
so it was the actual beheading video? or just a news clip about it?
Yes. He made the dude talk to the camera and then used a knife to finish him. Last shot is his head cut off laying on his back
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 19, 2014, 06:25:31 PM
You have to be a seriously disturbed individual to voluntarily watch that sort of thing
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 19, 2014, 06:36:18 PM
You have to be a seriously disturbed individual to voluntarily watch that sort of thing
Not really.
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Post by: Spracne on August 19, 2014, 06:46:53 PM
You have to be a seriously disturbed individual to voluntarily watch that sort of thing
Not really.

I bet you downloaded a lot of Faces of Death back in the Kazaa days.
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Post by: SdK on August 19, 2014, 06:50:11 PM
Kazaa! :love:
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 19, 2014, 06:51:29 PM
You have to be a seriously disturbed individual to voluntarily watch that sort of thing
Not really.

I bet you downloaded a lot of Faces of Death back in the Kazaa days.
lol. no. When I clicked on it, I didn't believe it would be real. It sounded made up. I figured if it was real, it wouldn't be allowed to be shown. It was 3:45 minutes/seconds of a video showing how god awful Obama is and the american talking for 30 seconds at the end. If what you guys are taking away from this is which ppl watched it, then i'm concerned you don't fully understand what's going on over there.
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: star seed 7 on August 19, 2014, 06:52:19 PM
You have to be a seriously disturbed individual to voluntarily watch that sort of thing
Not really.

I bet you downloaded a lot of Faces of Death back in the Kazaa days.

The Britney Spears porn clip on Kazaa was ALWAYS the Russian guy getting his head cut off and NEVER actually a porn with Britney Spears
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 19, 2014, 06:53:48 PM
Interesting. I didn't even know that site existed. Seven seems fully aware of it. what kind of sick individual is he? :surprised:
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: star seed 7 on August 19, 2014, 06:56:28 PM
Kazaa wasn't a site

(I never watched it all the way through, once I see a knife in a neck, I click off the video, apparently you just sit and enjoy it)
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: SdK on August 19, 2014, 06:56:52 PM
The russian guy with the field knife pinned down?  :frown:

Was a bad one.
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Post by: 'taterblast on August 19, 2014, 07:05:48 PM
i've watched some terrible vids. i don't think i'm seriously disturbed.
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 19, 2014, 07:07:24 PM
i've watched some terrible vids. i don't think i'm seriously disturbed.
There's no correlation IMO.
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Post by: 'taterblast on August 19, 2014, 07:15:14 PM
i've watched some terrible vids. i don't think i'm seriously disturbed.
There's no correlation IMO.

i mean, if you watch them and feel nothing then you might be
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 19, 2014, 07:16:39 PM
i've watched some terrible vids. i don't think i'm seriously disturbed.
There's no correlation IMO.

i mean, if you watch them and feel nothing then you might be
Yeah, I was pretty disgusted and was like "WTF?!" and then I started a thread about it. It really shocked me, man! :shakesfist:
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Post by: Spracne on August 19, 2014, 07:19:38 PM
Take it to the master snuff thread.

Hey Wacky, have you ever listened to the audio of that Wisconsin (or Minnesota or something) guy murdering the two kids who broke into his house?  The trial ended in April, I think.
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 19, 2014, 07:21:05 PM
Take it to the master snuff thread.

Hey Wacky, have you ever listened to the audio of that Wisconsin (or Minnesota or something) guy murdering the two kids who broke into his house?  The trial ended in April, I think.
No.  :sdeek: How bad is it?!  :ohno:
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Post by: 'taterblast on August 19, 2014, 07:22:06 PM
it's so weird and creepy
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 19, 2014, 07:22:41 PM
When I lived in Garden City, I had to go to Holcomb a lot  for coaches shows and friday night games. I would always drive by the "in cold blood" house and it really freaked me out, man!
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Post by: Tobias on August 19, 2014, 07:24:32 PM
#wackysnuff
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 19, 2014, 07:31:16 PM
Ok guys, I just went and listened to that guys murder audio. Maybe I do have a problem.  :frown:
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Post by: Bloodfart on August 19, 2014, 07:33:51 PM
 :popcorn:
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Post by: Spracne on August 19, 2014, 07:38:02 PM
Ok guys, I just went and listened to that guys murder audio. Maybe I do have a problem.  :frown:

Thoughts?
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 19, 2014, 07:45:26 PM
Ok guys, I just went and listened to that guys murder audio. Maybe I do have a problem.  :frown:

Thoughts?
Creepy AF! How did he know they'd break in that day?
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: Spracne on August 19, 2014, 07:47:08 PM
Ok guys, I just went and listened to that guys murder audio. Maybe I do have a problem.  :frown:

Thoughts?
Creepy AF! How did he know they'd break in that day?

Not sure how many days he staked out his own house, but he turned off all the lights, parked his car in the back and waited in his basement with a gun and a tarp for who knows how long...
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 19, 2014, 07:50:18 PM
So weird.
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Post by: Spracne on August 19, 2014, 07:56:13 PM
So weird.

I'd be surprised if it's not in the responsible gun owner thread.  Guy was found guilty of murder, though, as he should have been. 
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 19, 2014, 09:44:29 PM
It's amazing how accepting we've become if terrorism. An American gets his head chopped off and we shrug our shoulders. "Meh - the important thing is not to retaliate because that's just what they want." Just another sign of America in decline.
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Post by: puniraptor on August 19, 2014, 10:18:27 PM
Hopefully the vid provides enough information for seal team 6 to locate and rescue the other guy.
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Post by: 'taterblast on August 20, 2014, 12:33:54 AM
it's on vimeo now
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Post by: ednksu on August 20, 2014, 02:00:12 AM
It's amazing how accepting we've become if terrorism. An American gets his head chopped off and we shrug our shoulders. "Meh - the important thing is not to retaliate because that's just what they want." Just another sign of America in decline.
yeah if only we acted like Reagan who did jack rough ridin' crap when our barracks was bombed.  :dubious:
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Post by: SdK on August 20, 2014, 05:36:48 AM
I'd be more worried if Americans were shocked by the video.
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Post by: felix rex on August 20, 2014, 06:02:24 AM
It's amazing how accepting we've become if terrorism. An American gets his head chopped off and we shrug our shoulders. "Meh - the important thing is not to retaliate because that's just what they want." Just another sign of America in decline.

we're already dropping bombs on their heads. should we key their car, too?
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Post by: nicname on August 20, 2014, 06:10:15 AM
The Jonestown audio is the most sickening thing I've ever listened to. I get a lump in my throat just thinking of it.
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Post by: michigancat on August 20, 2014, 07:26:14 AM
It's amazing how accepting we've become if terrorism. An American gets his head chopped off and we shrug our shoulders. "Meh - the important thing is not to retaliate because that's just what they want." Just another sign of America in decline.

we're already dropping bombs on their heads. should we key their car, too?

I think he just wants me to be happier about it, and maybe also send in ground troops.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 20, 2014, 09:29:17 AM
I was thinking about this as I saw it resurface on the news this morning. If you were put in that situation, wouldn't you just run? I mean, I'd rather be shot, then get my head sliced off, right? :dunno: Were his legs handcuffed too?
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Post by: ednksu on August 20, 2014, 09:42:42 AM
I was thinking about this as I saw it resurface on the news this morning. If you were put in that situation, wouldn't you just run? I mean, I'd rather be shot, then get my head sliced off, right? :dunno: Were his legs handcuffed too?
I'm in this camp too.  Maybe the promised him a quick death with a sharp sword and he had already come to terms with his situation.  Maybe he was drugged or in total mental shock. 
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Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 20, 2014, 09:55:07 AM
The thought that this guy is a British citizen is scary.  I'm a bit ignorant on the ISIS situation, but from my understanding a lot of them are British and Australian citizens who came over after the Americans left. 

What is the proper course of action with ISIS outside of a few rockets?  They are mass killing children and villages.   
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Post by: Mr Bread on August 20, 2014, 10:33:15 AM
It's amazing how accepting we've become if terrorism. An American gets his head chopped off and we shrug our shoulders. "Meh - the important thing is not to retaliate because that's just what they want." Just another sign of America in decline.

we're already dropping bombs on their heads. should we key their car, too?

I think he just wants me to be happier about it, and maybe also send in ground troops.

You are the living embodiment of a 'merica in decline. 
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Post by: SdK on August 20, 2014, 10:53:32 AM
I say just keep dropping bombs on their head to aid the Iraqi and Kurdish forces. Be that by air or ship. We can't save every country. We can only help to tip the scales in favor of lesser of two evils or the good people. Imo
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Post by: Spracne on August 20, 2014, 11:09:54 AM
I was thinking about this as I saw it resurface on the news this morning. If you were put in that situation, wouldn't you just run? I mean, I'd rather be shot, then get my head sliced off, right? :dunno: Were his legs handcuffed too?

Right? At least give me a clean death - a soldier's death.
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on August 20, 2014, 11:44:51 AM
The thought that this guy is a British citizen is scary.  I'm a bit ignorant on the ISIS situation, but from my understanding a lot of them are British and Australian citizens who came over after the Americans left. 

What is the proper course of action with ISIS outside of a few rockets?  They are mass killing children and villages.   

The UK has become a training ground for radicals. The radical islamists like to use a perverted "freedom of religion" against leftist countries that blindly offer it.
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Post by: Asteriskhead on August 20, 2014, 12:09:52 PM
The Jonestown audio is the most sickening thing I've ever listened to. I get a lump in my throat just thinking of it.

Agreed.
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Post by: felix rex on August 20, 2014, 12:14:49 PM
Sounds like the UK is overdue for a good bombing. Let's just look up some "Johns" and drone every third one. Send a message.
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Post by: DQ12 on August 20, 2014, 02:41:21 PM
It's amazing how accepting we've become if terrorism. An American gets his head chopped off and we shrug our shoulders. "Meh - the important thing is not to retaliate because that's just what they want." Just another sign of America in decline.

we're already dropping bombs on their heads. should we key their car, too?
This was a dynamite post.
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 20, 2014, 04:21:51 PM
The Jonestown audio is the most sickening thing I've ever listened to. I get a lump in my throat just thinking of it.

Agreed.

It's soooooo creepy
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 20, 2014, 04:22:32 PM
Also, I saw the Nick Berg video, not watching this one.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 20, 2014, 05:27:03 PM
Also, I saw the Nick Berg video, not watching this one.
Crap. What is wrong with me?  :curse: Stop giving me hints towards other videos. I think i'm a monster.  :angry:
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 20, 2014, 05:28:44 PM
Why don't these sick effs just tike a slice with a sword or something? Why do they have to saw it with a knife? :bang:
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 20, 2014, 05:31:13 PM
The cartels use chainsaws sometimes fanning, and from what I hear, it's much worse than the knife
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 20, 2014, 05:35:30 PM
The cartels use chainsaws sometimes fanning, and from what I hear, it's much worse than the knife
:curse: rough ridin' sickos!
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Post by: Benja on August 20, 2014, 05:46:24 PM
It's amazing how accepting we've become if terrorism. An American gets his head chopped off and we shrug our shoulders. "Meh - the important thing is not to retaliate because that's just what they want." Just another sign of America in decline.

we're already dropping bombs on their heads. should we key their car, too?
This was a dynamite post.

yes that was great. and every time I get a little tired of ksu-wildcats-bot, I remember that great posts like that never would have happened without ksu's post.
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Post by: Benja on August 20, 2014, 05:48:12 PM
And I'm not going to watch that video, but I don't think it makes you a sick person if you do. You should be completely sickened by it, though. Like, I almost threw up watching a mexican cartel video.
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Post by: Benja on August 20, 2014, 05:49:18 PM
The cartels use chainsaws sometimes fanning, and from what I hear, it's much worse than the knife
:curse: rough ridin' sickos!

It's actually considered a cleaner death. Knife takes a while.
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Post by: SdK on August 20, 2014, 06:15:53 PM
The cartels use chainsaws sometimes fanning, and from what I hear, it's much worse than the knife
:curse: rough ridin' sickos!

It's actually considered a cleaner death. Knife takes a while.

All that gurgling and serration of the trachea and spine.
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Post by: EMAWmeister on August 20, 2014, 10:54:00 PM
I have a pretty morbid sense of curiosity when it comes to pics, but I can't do videos like this. Just horrifying.
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Post by: Spracne on August 20, 2014, 10:57:36 PM
I think fascination with death is natural for us as mortal beings. That said, I have no desire to watch videos such as this. However, I wonder... Do the hostages who appear in such videos consider themselves alive, or are they already dead?
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Post by: Benja on August 20, 2014, 11:02:01 PM
I was thinking about this as I saw it resurface on the news this morning. If you were put in that situation, wouldn't you just run? I mean, I'd rather be shot, then get my head sliced off, right? :dunno: Were his legs handcuffed too?

About the running thing, I mean, have you ever tried running with your hands clasped behind you back? First of all, you look goddamn silly and secondly its not very efficient. They would have just caught him and put him right back where he was. Secondly, the psychological damage of being held captive by people how are probably going to kill you has to be massive. At that point, he had probably accepted death.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 20, 2014, 11:05:57 PM
I think fascination with death is natural for us as mortal beings. That said, I have no desire to watch videos such as this. However, I wonder... Do the hostages who appear in such videos consider themselves alive, or are they already dead?
from what I've seen, they look like they were ready to go yesterday. Calm as hell and just ready to get it over with. I don't blame them.
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Post by: Spracne on August 20, 2014, 11:42:27 PM

I think fascination with death is natural for us as mortal beings. That said, I have no desire to watch videos such as this. However, I wonder... Do the hostages who appear in such videos consider themselves alive, or are they already dead?
from what I've seen, they look like they were ready to go yesterday. Calm as hell and just ready to get it over with. I don't blame them.

As I thought, it must be the strangest thing to have accepted your own death ante facto.   
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Post by: ednksu on August 20, 2014, 11:58:37 PM
Did you guys hear Obama went golfing instead of bombing??? what kind of president does that???  I mean he totally could have remote controlled a drone from the 19th hole at least.  Telecommute Mr. President!!!!
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 21, 2014, 12:17:27 AM
I think fascination with death is natural for us as mortal beings. That said, I have no desire to watch videos such as this. However, I wonder... Do the hostages who appear in such videos consider themselves alive, or are they already dead?

IIRC, when Nick Berg was beheaded his kidnappers did the beheading videos several times without actually doing it. They put the bag on his head, started shouting the death to America crap, then just stopped the video. When they actually beheaded him the video was similar to that but they did the final deed after the death to America stuff.
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Post by: ednksu on August 21, 2014, 12:43:29 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-weighs-response-to-apparent-execution-of-american-by-islamic-state/2014/08/20/e33558a8-287d-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html?tid=pm_world_pop
U.S. staged secret operation into Syria in failed bid to rescue Americans
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Post by: felix rex on August 21, 2014, 04:22:08 AM
I really shouldn't laugh at this...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvjO1m3IQAAuLO7.jpg)
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 21, 2014, 08:10:57 AM
Did you guys hear Obama went golfing instead of bombing??? what kind of president does that???  I mean he totally could have remote controlled a drone from the 19th hole at least.  Telecommute Mr. President!!!!

The President shouldn't vacation during active combat operations.
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 21, 2014, 08:49:15 AM
I really shouldn't laugh at this...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvjO1m3IQAAuLO7.jpg)
OMG
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 21, 2014, 09:03:18 AM
I really shouldn't laugh at this...

(http://)

No, you really shouldn't, and you should delete your post. JFC. Hey, you know what else would be funny, let's photoshop some of the 9/11 victims taking the Ice Bucket Challenge! That would be hilarious!
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2014, 11:34:42 AM
I laughed
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Post by: Spracne on August 21, 2014, 11:38:25 AM
What the hell is going on in here...
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Post by: 'taterblast on August 21, 2014, 11:48:02 AM
damnit, i thought of that joke when i watched the vid. :facepalm:
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Post by: michigancat on August 21, 2014, 11:48:43 AM
damnit, i thought of that joke when i watched the vid. :facepalm:

I don't feel as bad about laughing at this.
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2014, 12:08:50 PM
I really shouldn't laugh at this...

(http://)

No, you really shouldn't, and you should delete your post. JFC. Hey, you know what else would be funny, let's photoshop some of the 9/11 victims taking the Ice Bucket Challenge! That would be hilarious!

Not sure how the 911 one would work, unless it's like people were jumping out into a cold pool or something.

Or maybe a big plane with a comically large ice bucket hanging from it about to hit the towers?

Not sure this idea will take off
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 21, 2014, 12:24:47 PM
Did you guys hear Obama went golfing instead of bombing??? what kind of president does that???  I mean he totally could have remote controlled a drone from the 19th hole at least.  Telecommute Mr. President!!!!

The President shouldn't vacation during active combat operations.

I think the United States would then have a ridiculously high mortality/suicide rate among its heads of state.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 21, 2014, 12:53:49 PM
Did you guys hear Obama went golfing instead of bombing??? what kind of president does that???  I mean he totally could have remote controlled a drone from the 19th hole at least.  Telecommute Mr. President!!!!

The President shouldn't vacation during active combat operations.

I think the United States would then have a ridiculously high mortality/suicide rate among its heads of state.

Maybe we would have less wars.
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 21, 2014, 01:30:57 PM
Agreed, but that horse has left the barn.
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Post by: SdK on August 21, 2014, 04:21:18 PM
Agreed, but that horse has left the barn.
Let's lead it to water, ice water, then dump it on the horse. Amirite?
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: ednksu on August 21, 2014, 05:29:12 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/french-journalist-partly-ids-james-foley-killer-article-1.1912022

dude was strong. 
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 21, 2014, 05:39:34 PM
Yes. He was/is definitely a stud.
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Post by: Spracne on August 21, 2014, 05:44:09 PM
So, a Frenchman's life is worth $4.5M, and they were demanding $132M for 1 American?  Greedy bastards.  They want allah the money.

I know the European governments have denied paying these ransoms, but it seems pretty clear that ransoms are paid and hostages are released.  How are these deals brokered?  Specifically, how are the funds delivered?   
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: Benja on August 21, 2014, 05:54:27 PM
Man, ksu-wildcats had a really good idea about making fun of 9/11 earlier in this thread. I mean, some might call that terribly insensitive but I glad he had the guts to take a stand about how much he really wants to do it
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Post by: michigancat on August 21, 2014, 05:58:47 PM
Man, ksu-wildcats had a really good idea about making fun of 9/11 earlier in this thread. I mean, some might call that terribly insensitive but I glad he had the guts to take a stand about how much he really wants to do it

he's at least slowing the inevitable pussification of america
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 21, 2014, 06:36:55 PM
So, a Frenchman's life is worth $4.5M, and they were demanding $132M for 1 American?  Greedy bastards.  They want allah the money.

I know the European governments have denied paying these ransoms, but it seems pretty clear that ransoms are paid and hostages are released.  How are these deals brokered?  Specifically, how are the funds delivered?
As a kid I thought you could just print the $. At 30 you may ask? Same thought process. Just print it. No consequences.
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Post by: Spracne on August 21, 2014, 06:51:36 PM
So, a Frenchman's life is worth $4.5M, and they were demanding $132M for 1 American?  Greedy bastards.  They want allah the money.

I know the European governments have denied paying these ransoms, but it seems pretty clear that ransoms are paid and hostages are released.  How are these deals brokered?  Specifically, how are the funds delivered?
As a kid I thought you could just print the $. At 30 you may ask? Same thought process. Just print it. No consequences.

Was this in response to my question? :confused:
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Post by: Benja on August 21, 2014, 07:02:05 PM
So, a Frenchman's life is worth $4.5M, and they were demanding $132M for 1 American?  Greedy bastards.  They want allah the money.

I know the European governments have denied paying these ransoms, but it seems pretty clear that ransoms are paid and hostages are released.  How are these deals brokered?  Specifically, how are the funds delivered?
As a kid I thought you could just print the $. At 30 you may ask? Same thought process. Just print it. No consequences.

except the consequence of giving money to assholes
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: Mr Bread on August 21, 2014, 07:33:42 PM
Yes. He was/is definitely a stud.

The murdered guy?
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Post by: Benja on August 21, 2014, 07:42:08 PM
Folley was def a stud. Great looking guy.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 21, 2014, 07:45:15 PM
Yes. He was/is definitely a stud.

The murdered guy?
Yeah. NGAF, not giving up any info, and taking the beheading like a champ. He's not a pussy, that's for sure.
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Post by: Mr Bread on August 21, 2014, 08:54:52 PM
He did it exactly the way they made him do it.  I mean unless you think he meant all that stuff about his brother.  I also don't think they wanted him screaming and crying.  They wanted him to clearly say his lines, not blubber them incomprehensibly. 

He not only got captured for the second time in his life, but went out entirely on their terms.  Stud?  I don't know about that.  What would William Wallace say?     
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Post by: Mr Bread on August 21, 2014, 08:59:08 PM
The didn't give up info part got me though. :D
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 21, 2014, 09:00:51 PM
Sounds like he had been tortured for awhile and never gave in. I think if anyone of us were in those shoes, we'd be screaming and freaking out. I guess I just view it differently. I get your point tho.
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Post by: Mr Bread on August 21, 2014, 09:52:08 PM
If that video wasn't giving in, I don't know what would have been.  I'm sure as a result of a great deal of torture and abuse, but still their instructions to the letter in that video.  I don't find fault or weakness by any means, but I'm also not going to praise it.  He was their meat puppet at the end.  Most everyone, if not everyone, would be at some point I imagine.

So I guess the point is not studly, but typical.  He ended how you would expect someone to be after all that.  Perfectly conditioned to do whatever they wanted him to do.   
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Post by: Trim on August 21, 2014, 10:22:57 PM
I really shouldn't laugh at this...

(http://)

No, you really shouldn't, and you should delete your post. JFC. Hey, you know what else would be funny, let's photoshop some of the 9/11 victims taking the Ice Bucket Challenge! That would be hilarious!

Nothing's going to top the Russell Robinson 9/11 photoshop (ms paint?).
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Post by: EMAWmeister on August 21, 2014, 11:55:43 PM
If that video wasn't giving in, I don't know what would have been.  I'm sure as a result of a great deal of torture and abuse, but still their instructions to the letter in that video.  I don't find fault or weakness by any means, but I'm also not going to praise it.  He was their meat puppet at the end.  Most everyone, if not everyone, would be at some point I imagine.

So I guess the point is not studly, but typical.  He ended how you would expect someone to be after all that.  Perfectly conditioned to do whatever they wanted him to do.   

I'd like to think that I'd go out like Marky Mark almost went out in Lone Survivor "eff you, go eff yourselves, go to hell, etc". But I'd be a mess.
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Post by: SdK on August 22, 2014, 12:05:55 AM
I'll stick on the stud train. I'll say that he is a stud, was a stud, and went out in a way that would cause the people back home the least amount of pain. He knew he was going to die. He knew how he was going to die. He knew it was going to be broadcast online. He went out as peacefully as he could. I don't think going out being "hard" or resisting the inevitable gives you anything more than "street cred" on message boards. To say that his actions in the video resemble a broken man is dumb.
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Post by: ednksu on August 22, 2014, 02:53:24 AM
Yeah from all the reports about how he read the script, it doesn't sound like he cracked.  I mean you have to be able to read a script and survive for another day.  I'm sure he accepted his death on a level and steeled himself to that end, which we saw in the video.  From what I've seen (intentionally don't watch those vids now) he sounded like he went out differently than other videos I have seen.
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Post by: SdK on August 22, 2014, 03:04:54 AM
If anything, I think Breads posts itt are the only ones that showing the pussification of America. Posting it in a manner that says, "look the guy pussed out, kneeled down, kissed the rings, was their meat puppet, is a giant pansy, BUT I'm sure we all would" is the exact opposite of a backhanded compliment but reveals his lack of belief in bravery and that he himself is a pussy. Given the manner in how he joined here and stuck around, it makes sense.

Started off as lmao you guys have oscar, to omg I'd love to stick around, let me find my niche.
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 22, 2014, 08:59:38 AM
I suspect the explanation for Foley's composure and not attempting to run is a lot more simple: the thugs likely told him this was a propaganda video, and as long as he did as they instructed, they'd let him live. He took a chance because it wasn't like he was going to be able to escape by resisting anyway.

I'm just glad this administration is on the case. I hear the Department of Justice plans to investigate criminal charges, just as soon as they wrap things up in Ferguson. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/james-foley-investigation-doj-110221.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/james-foley-investigation-doj-110221.html)

Seems like we probably should have obliterated ISIS from the air as they began their advance into Iraq - not 6 weeks later. But hey, that was only blindingly obvious to most people. Our Dithering Weakling is more "nuanced."
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Post by: Mr Bread on August 22, 2014, 09:36:31 AM
If anything, I think Breads posts itt are the only ones that showing the pussification of America. Posting it in a manner that says, "look the guy pussed out, kneeled down, kissed the rings, was their meat puppet, is a giant pansy, BUT I'm sure we all would" is the exact opposite of a backhanded compliment but reveals his lack of belief in bravery and that he himself is a pussy. Given the manner in how he joined here and stuck around, it makes sense.

Started off as lmao you guys have oscar, to omg I'd love to stick around, let me find my niche.

At least you didn't have a complete emotional breakdown and threaten to end my throat.  Progress I guess. 
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: ednksu on August 22, 2014, 12:37:25 PM
I suspect the explanation for Foley's composure and not attempting to run is a lot more simple: the thugs likely told him this was a propaganda video, and as long as he did as they instructed, they'd let him live. He took a chance because it wasn't like he was going to be able to escape by resisting anyway.

I'm just glad this administration is on the case. I hear the Department of Justice plans to investigate criminal charges, just as soon as they wrap things up in Ferguson. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/james-foley-investigation-doj-110221.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/james-foley-investigation-doj-110221.html)

Seems like we probably should have obliterated ISIS from the air as they began their advance into Iraq - not 6 weeks later. But hey, that was only blindingly obvious to most people. Our Dithering Weakling is more "nuanced."

Hey dumbass, people like you didn't want to do it in Syria.  Its like saying we should stop Ebola once is spreads to Europe. 

And dumbass point number two, did you want Obama with the team making raids into Syria to get Foley out? 

Final dumbass point you've made the thugs repeated beat and tortured him, especially him because of his family, and the Frenchie reporter said he never broke.  There is a difference between random bullshit propaganda videos and them trolling Foley with these false starts in order to make him crumble, which he apparently never did.  If you look into any of these stories where people have escaped or have other witness accounts they try to break people with their own mortality.  It takes a seriously strong person to put their life on harms way for journalism and never flinch away. 
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Post by: Katpappy on August 22, 2014, 01:23:21 PM
The cartels use chainsaws sometimes fanning, and from what I hear, it's much worse than the knife
:curse: rough ridin' sickos!where's the video :drool:
FYP  :blush:
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 22, 2014, 01:27:56 PM
 :D
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: Katpappy on August 22, 2014, 01:31:24 PM
Agreed, but that horse has left the barn.
Let's lead it to water, ice water, then dump it on the horse. Amirite?
YOU SICK BASTARD!!!  :curse:
By the way, one of my horses is missing.  :ohno:

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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 22, 2014, 01:49:39 PM
I suspect the explanation for Foley's composure and not attempting to run is a lot more simple: the thugs likely told him this was a propaganda video, and as long as he did as they instructed, they'd let him live. He took a chance because it wasn't like he was going to be able to escape by resisting anyway.

I'm just glad this administration is on the case. I hear the Department of Justice plans to investigate criminal charges, just as soon as they wrap things up in Ferguson. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/james-foley-investigation-doj-110221.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/james-foley-investigation-doj-110221.html)

Seems like we probably should have obliterated ISIS from the air as they began their advance into Iraq - not 6 weeks later. But hey, that was only blindingly obvious to most people. Our Dithering Weakling is more "nuanced."

Hey dumbass, people like you didn't want to do it in Syria.  Its like saying we should stop Ebola once is spreads to Europe. 

And dumbass point number two, did you want Obama with the team making raids into Syria to get Foley out? 

Final dumbass point you've made the thugs repeated beat and tortured him, especially him because of his family, and the Frenchie reporter said he never broke.  There is a difference between random bullshit propaganda videos and them trolling Foley with these false starts in order to make him crumble, which he apparently never did.  If you look into any of these stories where people have escaped or have other witness accounts they try to break people with their own mortality.  It takes a seriously strong person to put their life on harms way for journalism and never flinch away.

You seem very touchy about this. When they were just in Syria they were Assad's problem. Now they're a much bigger problem. And of course bombing them as they advanced into Iraq wouldn't have helped Foley - I was just pointing that Our Dithering Weakling was once again slow on the draw. What good is all this great new drone technology if you're not going to vaporize a pack of terrorists when they're caravaning down the road in broad daylight? Finally, I wasn't attempting to denigrate Foley in the slightest.
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Post by: Benja on August 22, 2014, 03:10:58 PM
that felix rex post earlier was really good
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: SdK on August 22, 2014, 04:28:28 PM
Agreed, but that horse has left the barn.
Let's lead it to water, ice water, then dump it on the horse. Amirite?
YOU SICK BASTARD!!!  :curse:
By the way, one of my horses is missing.  :ohno:
:D
Title: Re: WTF? "A message to America!"
Post by: ednksu on August 22, 2014, 06:21:54 PM
I suspect the explanation for Foley's composure and not attempting to run is a lot more simple: the thugs likely told him this was a propaganda video, and as long as he did as they instructed, they'd let him live. He took a chance because it wasn't like he was going to be able to escape by resisting anyway.

I'm just glad this administration is on the case. I hear the Department of Justice plans to investigate criminal charges, just as soon as they wrap things up in Ferguson. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/james-foley-investigation-doj-110221.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/james-foley-investigation-doj-110221.html)

Seems like we probably should have obliterated ISIS from the air as they began their advance into Iraq - not 6 weeks later. But hey, that was only blindingly obvious to most people. Our Dithering Weakling is more "nuanced."

Hey dumbass, people like you didn't want to do it in Syria.  Its like saying we should stop Ebola once is spreads to Europe. 

And dumbass point number two, did you want Obama with the team making raids into Syria to get Foley out? 

Final dumbass point you've made the thugs repeated beat and tortured him, especially him because of his family, and the Frenchie reporter said he never broke.  There is a difference between random bullshit propaganda videos and them trolling Foley with these false starts in order to make him crumble, which he apparently never did.  If you look into any of these stories where people have escaped or have other witness accounts they try to break people with their own mortality.  It takes a seriously strong person to put their life on harms way for journalism and never flinch away.

You seem very touchy about this. When they were just in Syria they were Assad's problem. Now they're a much bigger problem. And of course bombing them as they advanced into Iraq wouldn't have helped Foley - I was just pointing that Our Dithering Weakling was once again slow on the draw. What good is all this great new drone technology if you're not going to vaporize a pack of terrorists when they're caravaning down the road in broad daylight? Finally, I wasn't attempting to denigrate Foley in the slightest.
Now I know you're just making stuff up to bash Obama.  The U.S. has been after them for months.  See Obama authorizing a raid to try and get him.  See the right refusing to do anything about Syria, back when Obama first wanted action, and how we are seeing the evolution of a problem which could have been mitigated much earlier.  How much do you want a president to do?  You people hold Obama to these absurd unrealistic standards which no president has ever been held to. 
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Post by: michigancat on August 29, 2014, 04:31:12 PM
fixing my own mistake

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTXA7fpv.jpg&hash=75ee3ca6ec37c04fd488fc6d87125b1fc579e195)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv8oclY7h0Q
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on August 29, 2014, 04:40:19 PM
It does look like the same girl.  :surprised:
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Post by: SdK on August 29, 2014, 04:43:47 PM
I don't think that looks like the same girl. Similar, but not the same girl.
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Post by: felix rex on August 31, 2014, 11:53:26 AM
I love the idea that there's a cadre of crisis actors almost as much as the idea that this cadre is so small that we're just recycling some. "The evidence for the incredibly complex and brilliant plot is this dumbass move right here".
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Post by: felix rex on September 02, 2014, 12:09:27 PM
Ok. Now they seem panicked and reckless.
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Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2014, 12:10:07 PM
LOL
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Post by: Spracne on September 02, 2014, 12:11:00 PM
Ok. Now they seem panicked and reckless.

Go on...
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 02, 2014, 12:38:30 PM
 :frown:
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Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on September 02, 2014, 12:46:27 PM
ISIS deserves everything bad that can happen to them. 
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Post by: Winters on September 02, 2014, 03:26:14 PM
Horrific, can't imagine what the family is going through.

Quote
Sotloff was also a big fan of the NBA's Miami Heat, jazz and poetry.
  :frown:
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Post by: Spracne on September 02, 2014, 04:05:29 PM
Horrific, can't imagine what the family is going through.

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Sotloff was also a big fan of the NBA's Miami Heat, jazz and poetry.
  :frown:

Who are The Poetry? Is that an expansion team I'm not aware of?
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 02, 2014, 05:53:06 PM
Horrific, can't imagine what the family is going through.

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Sotloff was also a big fan of the NBA's Miami Heat, jazz and poetry.
  :frown:

Who are The Poetry? Is that an expansion team I'm not aware of?

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