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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: sonofdaxjones on August 18, 2014, 11:20:51 PM
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in order to come up with "White House Equities"?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/wp/2014/08/18/lawsuit-claims-white-house-reviews-hinder-foia-requests/
Over lunch perhaps . . . sandwiches and tea, probably sweet tea. Whiteboard, or easel and big pad?
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I know this isn't your direct point. But why don't we castigate Bush for failing to live up to the campaign promises? Why is Obama held to a higher standard of failure when pretty much all previous administrations promised and failed to deliver in a multitude of ways? For instance, people don't rail about Bush failing to live up to his no nation building pledge in the same way people rail against Obama's transparency issues. Could it be that maybe Obama was just really naive in everything from state secrets, to intelligence systems, to how Washington actually works.
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I know this isn't your direct point. But why don't we castigate Bush for failing to live up to the campaign promises? Why is Obama held to a higher standard of failure when pretty much all previous administrations promised and failed to deliver in a multitude of ways? For instance, people don't rail about Bush failing to live up to his no nation building pledge in the same way people rail against Obama's transparency issues. Could it be that maybe Obama was just really naive in everything from state secrets, to intelligence systems, to how Washington actually works.
Oh please edn, you don't think Bush(es) weren't torn to shreds over campaign promises not being kept? What kind of alternate reality do you live in? We're going on 6 years since the last Bush was in the White House and this administration and Dems still blame him for things that are relatively net new issues, or for issues that have the flimsiest of dotted lines back to the Bush Administration. (Like I always say. The Obama Administration: The Buck Never Stops Here).
The transparency farce is long since dead, buried and gone. The real issue, and the real concern is the fact that the White House legal counsel set forth a broad, nebulous and highly subjective concept of, "White House Equities". A clear and substantial "policy" to thwart the FOIA. Just toss this on an impressive pile of oversteps by this administration.
To paraphrase Jonathan Turley (soon to be former progressive liberal hero): This administration is the one Nixon always wanted.
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Interesting comparo to Nixon....let me know when Obama expands a war into other countries and hides it from the American people or attempts to subvert the rule of law through election tampering.
But my point isn't that people don't criticize Bush enough, its that Iraq is usually frame as an un-needed war, but not contextualized in a Bush presidency which started off with a firm no nation building stance. Now nuanced sources will do that in some of the framing, but it isn't part of the construction of the narrative of his presidency (failing to live up to his promise), its included as a WTF moment.
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Interesting comparo to Nixon....let me know when Obama expands a war into other countries and hides it from the American people or attempts to subvert the rule of law through election tampering.
I think most people would agree using the IRS to stop campaign contributions from conservative groups can be considered election tampering. Obama, Jarrett, and Axelrod are just better at it (so far) than Nixon.
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Interesting comparo to Nixon....let me know when Obama expands a war into other countries and hides it from the American people or attempts to subvert the rule of law through election tampering.
But my point isn't that people don't criticize Bush enough, its that Iraq is usually frame as an un-needed war, but not contextualized in a Bush presidency which started off with a firm no nation building stance. Now nuanced sources will do that in some of the framing, but it isn't part of the construction of the narrative of his presidency (failing to live up to his promise), its included as a WTF moment.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/yemeni-victims-of-us-military-drone-strike-get-more-than-1million-in-compensation/2014/08/18/670926f0-26e4-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/yemeni-victims-of-us-military-drone-strike-get-more-than-1million-in-compensation/2014/08/18/670926f0-26e4-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html)
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Hey edn, let us know when you join the rest of us in 2014.
This a domestic issue, and an administration that promised unprecedented levels of transparency that has done the exact opposite. Not in a "well maybe we shouldn't have said that" kind of way. In a willful, full fledged, can't believe a word that comes out of their mouth kind of way. Using every form and fashion of back channel, internalized, bureaucratic WONK methodology available.
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Interesting comparo to Nixon....let me know when Obama expands a war into other countries and hides it from the American people or attempts to subvert the rule of law through election tampering.
But my point isn't that people don't criticize Bush enough, its that Iraq is usually frame as an un-needed war, but not contextualized in a Bush presidency which started off with a firm no nation building stance. Now nuanced sources will do that in some of the framing, but it isn't part of the construction of the narrative of his presidency (failing to live up to his promise), its included as a WTF moment.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/yemeni-victims-of-us-military-drone-strike-get-more-than-1million-in-compensation/2014/08/18/670926f0-26e4-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/yemeni-victims-of-us-military-drone-strike-get-more-than-1million-in-compensation/2014/08/18/670926f0-26e4-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html)
The Yemen missions are a well known part of US military policy in Iraq and nothing like Johnson lying about the process of a war. Totally different to pay someone off for blowing up the wrong people than it is to say "war, what war?"
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Hey edn, let us know when you join the rest of us in 2014.
This a domestic issue, and an administration that promised unprecedented levels of transparency that has done the exact opposite. Not in a "well maybe we shouldn't have said that" kind of way. In a willful, full fledged, can't believe a word that comes out of their mouth kind of way. Using every form and fashion of back channel, internalized, bureaucratic WONK methodology available.
And the prior administration promised no new wars, no nation building
and the admin before that promised a new road for US foreign policy and was only tough on terrorism when they needed cover for grand jury investigations (bombing of Iraq and camps the night before house report on his acts).
and the admin before that promised no new taxes
and the admin before that.....WOW....where to start.....
point being all of these admins do the EXACT same thing, but some how you've convinced yourself that Obama is an outlier.
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Hey edn, let us know when you join the rest of us in 2014.
This a domestic issue, and an administration that promised unprecedented levels of transparency that has done the exact opposite. Not in a "well maybe we shouldn't have said that" kind of way. In a willful, full fledged, can't believe a word that comes out of their mouth kind of way. Using every form and fashion of back channel, internalized, bureaucratic WONK methodology available.
And the prior administration promised no new wars, no nation building
and the admin before that promised a new road for US foreign policy and was only tough on terrorism when they needed cover for grand jury investigations (bombing of Iraq and camps the night before house report on his acts).
and the admin before that promised no new taxes
and the admin before that.....WOW....where to start.....
point being all of these admins do the EXACT same thing, but some how you've convinced yourself that Obama is an outlier.
You are right in many respects, but the biggest issue with the current administration is he is being protected by the major media. They can say whatever they like without being questioned as to the accuracy or even for further explanation. Those reporters and outlets that do question are no longer part of the club, and that reporter will be moving on to another gig.
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Interesting comparo to Nixon....let me know when Obama expands a war into other countries and hides it from the American people or attempts to subvert the rule of law through election tampering.
But my point isn't that people don't criticize Bush enough, its that Iraq is usually frame as an un-needed war, but not contextualized in a Bush presidency which started off with a firm no nation building stance. Now nuanced sources will do that in some of the framing, but it isn't part of the construction of the narrative of his presidency (failing to live up to his promise), its included as a WTF moment.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/yemeni-victims-of-us-military-drone-strike-get-more-than-1million-in-compensation/2014/08/18/670926f0-26e4-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/yemeni-victims-of-us-military-drone-strike-get-more-than-1million-in-compensation/2014/08/18/670926f0-26e4-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html)
The Yemen missions are a well known part of US military policy in Iraq and nothing like Johnson lying about the process of a war. Totally different to pay someone off for blowing up the wrong people than it is to say "war, what war?"
Oh please. Tons of drone strikes in non-warzones have been denied repeatedly. Just because we know about them now does not mean that they were not previously secret.
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Hey edn, let us know when you join the rest of us in 2014.
This a domestic issue, and an administration that promised unprecedented levels of transparency that has done the exact opposite. Not in a "well maybe we shouldn't have said that" kind of way. In a willful, full fledged, can't believe a word that comes out of their mouth kind of way. Using every form and fashion of back channel, internalized, bureaucratic WONK methodology available.
And the prior administration promised no new wars, no nation building
and the admin before that promised a new road for US foreign policy and was only tough on terrorism when they needed cover for grand jury investigations (bombing of Iraq and camps the night before house report on his acts).
and the admin before that promised no new taxes
and the admin before that.....WOW....where to start.....
point being all of these admins do the EXACT same thing, but some how you've convinced yourself that Obama is an outlier.
You do realize that at least in regards to Republican administrations you only needed to turn on the usual suspect MSM outlets and you would have been deluged with a withering onslaught of criticism of most of what you speak of . . . yet for issues like this, we have to hunt and peck in obscure places, and off the beaten track. I always enjoy how entities like the Post run articles like the one I posted in a grudging, oh-by-the-way manner.
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Interesting comparo to Nixon....let me know when Obama expands a war into other countries and hides it from the American people or attempts to subvert the rule of law through election tampering.
But my point isn't that people don't criticize Bush enough, its that Iraq is usually frame as an un-needed war, but not contextualized in a Bush presidency which started off with a firm no nation building stance. Now nuanced sources will do that in some of the framing, but it isn't part of the construction of the narrative of his presidency (failing to live up to his promise), its included as a WTF moment.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/yemeni-victims-of-us-military-drone-strike-get-more-than-1million-in-compensation/2014/08/18/670926f0-26e4-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/yemeni-victims-of-us-military-drone-strike-get-more-than-1million-in-compensation/2014/08/18/670926f0-26e4-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html)
The Yemen missions are a well known part of US military policy in Iraq and nothing like Johnson lying about the process of a war. Totally different to pay someone off for blowing up the wrong people than it is to say "war, what war?"
Oh please. Tons of drone strikes in non-warzones have been denied repeatedly. Just because we know about them now does not mean that they were not previously secret.
No comment is radically different than intentionally concealing the escalation, expansion of a war and LYING about it to represented officials.
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Hey edn, let us know when you join the rest of us in 2014.
This a domestic issue, and an administration that promised unprecedented levels of transparency that has done the exact opposite. Not in a "well maybe we shouldn't have said that" kind of way. In a willful, full fledged, can't believe a word that comes out of their mouth kind of way. Using every form and fashion of back channel, internalized, bureaucratic WONK methodology available.
And the prior administration promised no new wars, no nation building
and the admin before that promised a new road for US foreign policy and was only tough on terrorism when they needed cover for grand jury investigations (bombing of Iraq and camps the night before house report on his acts).
and the admin before that promised no new taxes
and the admin before that.....WOW....where to start.....
point being all of these admins do the EXACT same thing, but some how you've convinced yourself that Obama is an outlier.
You do realize that at least in regards to Republican administrations you only needed to turn on the usual suspect MSM outlets and you would have been deluged with a withering onslaught of criticism of most of what you speak of . . . yet for issues like this, we have to hunt and peck in obscure places, and off the beaten track. I always enjoy how entities like the Post run articles like the one I posted in a grudging, oh-by-the-way manner.
Yeah the "MSM" isn't smart enough to link Bush's comments in the election to his presidency. Its more a general froth about Bush staring wars of want without the internal linkage to his campaign. IMO though.
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You are right in many respects, but the biggest issue with the current administration is he is being protected by the major media. They can say whatever they like without being questioned as to the accuracy or even for further explanation. Those reporters and outlets that do question are no longer part of the club, and that reporter will be moving on to another gig.
We are still doing this in 2014? Fox News is the most watched cable news network in America, are they a part of this conspiracy too?
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You are right in many respects, but the biggest issue with the current administration is he is being protected by the major media. They can say whatever they like without being questioned as to the accuracy or even for further explanation. Those reporters and outlets that do question are no longer part of the club, and that reporter will be moving on to another gig.
We are still doing this in 2014? Fox News is the most watched cable news network in America, are they a part of this conspiracy too?
They definitely are not part of the club.
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Love when neocons talk about the media :lol:
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Love when neocons talk about the media :lol:
Even better when Progressive Libs try to explain how down the middle CNN is, or that there's isn't a decided left bent to 4 of the 6 primary news (TV) outlets in the U.S. as well as the old (and dying) school print media.
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/obama-schmoozes-reporters-at-secret-meeting#3j5a8xf (http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/obama-schmoozes-reporters-at-secret-meeting#3j5a8xf)
WASHINGTON — President Obama held an off-the-record meeting with select reporters from some of the nation’s largest print and online outlets Monday, in the White House’s latest effort to placate an increasingly restive press corps.
White House officials regularly meet with reporters for so-called “background briefing sessions,” where the attendees cannot be mentioned by name nor quoted directly, but Monday’s meeting was different. Initially billed as a conversation with White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, the president made a surprise appearance — a very unusual move — and the White House placed the proceedings off the record beforehand. The meeting came amid a series of scandals crashing over the White House that has placed the administration on defense in a way it hasn’t been until now.
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Love when neocons talk about the media :lol:
Even better when Progressive Libs try to explain how down the middle CNN is, or that there's isn't a decided left bent to 4 of the 6 primary news (TV) outlets in the U.S. as well as the old (and dying) school print media.
More Dax, more!! :lol:
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Love when neocons talk about the media :lol:
Even better when Progressive Libs try to explain how down the middle CNN is, or that there's isn't a decided left bent to 4 of the 6 primary news (TV) outlets in the U.S. as well as the old (and dying) school print media.
More Dax, more!! :lol:
You've got nothing.
How . . . sad
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Love when neocons talk about the media :lol:
Even better when Progressive Libs try to explain how down the middle CNN is, or that there's isn't a decided left bent to 4 of the 6 primary news (TV) outlets in the U.S. as well as the old (and dying) school print media.
More Dax, more!! :lol:
You've got nothing.
How . . . sad
no, more stuff about the liberal media!
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Hey edn, let us know when you join the rest of us in 2014.
This a domestic issue, and an administration that promised unprecedented levels of transparency that has done the exact opposite. Not in a "well maybe we shouldn't have said that" kind of way. In a willful, full fledged, can't believe a word that comes out of their mouth kind of way. Using every form and fashion of back channel, internalized, bureaucratic WONK methodology available.
And the prior administration promised no new wars, no nation building
and the admin before that promised a new road for US foreign policy and was only tough on terrorism when they needed cover for grand jury investigations (bombing of Iraq and camps the night before house report on his acts).
and the admin before that promised no new taxes
and the admin before that.....WOW....where to start.....
point being all of these admins do the EXACT same thing, but some how you've convinced yourself that Obama is an outlier.
You are right in many respects, but the biggest issue with the current administration is he is being protected by the major media. They can say whatever they like without being questioned as to the accuracy or even for further explanation. Those reporters and outlets that do question are no longer part of the club, and that reporter will be moving on to another gig.
I'd like to agree with a good portion of this post. I don't agree that they are the only admin to be protected by the media since Bush got his war with VERY little media dissent (outside of MSNBC). I will also agree that the Obama admin has done a good bit of shunning of critical reporters.
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Love when neocons talk about the media :lol:
Even better when Progressive Libs try to explain how down the middle CNN is, or that there's isn't a decided left bent to 4 of the 6 primary news (TV) outlets in the U.S. as well as the old (and dying) school print media.
More Dax, more!! :lol:
You've got nothing.
How . . . sad
no, more stuff about the liberal media!
I'll take it that you're implying that I don't think there's a conservative media as well?
Anything about the topic at hand Seven, or you just going to keep gurgling nothingness (as usual)?
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Love when neocons talk about the media :lol:
Even better when Progressive Libs try to explain how down the middle CNN is, or that there's isn't a decided left bent to 4 of the 6 primary news (TV) outlets in the U.S. as well as the old (and dying) school print media.
More Dax, more!! :lol:
You've got nothing.
How . . . sad
no, more stuff about the liberal media!
I'll take it that you're implying that I don't think there's a conservative media as well?
Anything about the topic at hand Seven, or you just going to keep gurgling nothingness (as usual)?
i'm not implying anything you wonk, i just love hearing you neocons get all fussied up about the liberal media, it's great
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Love when neocons talk about the media :lol:
Even better when Progressive Libs try to explain how down the middle CNN is, or that there's isn't a decided left bent to 4 of the 6 primary news (TV) outlets in the U.S. as well as the old (and dying) school print media.
More Dax, more!! :lol:
You've got nothing.
How . . . sad
no, more stuff about the liberal media!
I'll take it that you're implying that I don't think there's a conservative media as well?
Anything about the topic at hand Seven, or you just going to keep gurgling nothingness (as usual)?
i'm not implying anything you wonk, i just love hearing you neocons get all fussied up about the liberal media, it's great
Why do you call me a neocon, just curious?
But just as I suspect, you don't have anything to say about the current administration subverting the FOIA.
Sad, but not the least bit unexpected.
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i didn't care to read the article, but it sounds like obama is like just the worst, man!
now let's talk more about that liberal media :excited:
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i didn't care to read the article, but it sounds like obama is like just the worst, man!
now let's talk more about that liberal media :excited:
That's what I expected. Nothing.
Sad
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i didn't care to read the article, but it sounds like obama is like just the worst, man!
now let's talk more about that liberal media :excited:
That's what I expected. Nothing.
Sad
say something about the "comedy channel" now :Woot:
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i didn't care to read the article, but it sounds like obama is like just the worst, man!
now let's talk more about that liberal media :excited:
That's what I expected. Nothing.
Sad
say something about the "comedy channel" now :Woot:
I'll happily play the get the last word in game.
Why can't you answer any questions seven?
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i didn't care to read the article, but it sounds like obama is like just the worst, man!
now let's talk more about that liberal media :excited:
That's what I expected. Nothing.
Sad
say something about the "comedy channel" now :Woot:
I'll happily play the get the last word in game.
Why can't you answer any questions seven?
i already told you i have no opinon on the thread topic and genuinely don't give a crap as it's likely the same ol' political bullshit everyone is tired of.
i didn't even post in this thread until you were a little liberal media cocktease :impatient:
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i didn't care to read the article, but it sounds like obama is like just the worst, man!
now let's talk more about that liberal media :excited:
That's what I expected. Nothing.
Sad
say something about the "comedy channel" now :Woot:
I'll happily play the get the last word in game.
Why can't you answer any questions seven?
i already told you i have no opinon on the thread topic and genuinely don't give a crap as it's likely the same ol' political bullshit everyone is tired of.
i didn't even post in this thread until you were a little liberal media cocktease :impatient:
If everyone was tired of it, then the st. louis thread wouldn't be 40 page long.
Blurting neocon is the 1b tapout, just behind the 1a tapout of racist.
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i didn't care to read the article, but it sounds like obama is like just the worst, man!
now let's talk more about that liberal media :excited:
That's what I expected. Nothing.
Sad
say something about the "comedy channel" now :Woot:
I'll happily play the get the last word in game.
Why can't you answer any questions seven?
i already told you i have no opinon on the thread topic and genuinely don't give a crap as it's likely the same ol' political bullshit everyone is tired of.
i didn't even post in this thread until you were a little liberal media cocktease :impatient:
If everyone was tired of it, then the st. louis thread wouldn't be 40 page long.
Blurting neocon is the 1b tapout, just behind the 1a tapout of racist.
this is just fantastic coming from the "everyone has a silly little pet name" guy :D
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Not everyone gets one seven.
What's even more fantastic is that you're supposedly "tired of all the bullshit" but you keep posting in this forum.
Weird.
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1c
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I know this isn't your direct point. But why don't we castigate Bush for failing to live up to the campaign promises? Why is Obama held to a higher standard of failure when pretty much all previous administrations promised and failed to deliver in a multitude of ways? For instance, people don't rail about Bush failing to live up to his no nation building pledge in the same way people rail against Obama's transparency issues. Could it be that maybe Obama was just really naive in everything from state secrets, to intelligence systems, to how Washington actually works.
Yep, if there's one thing we can all agree on it's that George W. Bush was basically given a pass by the media concerning his shortcomings and failings.
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Not everyone gets one seven.
What's even more fantastic is that you're supposedly "tired of all the bullshit" but you keep posting in this forum.
Weird.
it's fun, and sometimes you guys are real WONKS (i absolutely love your new word dax) about how persecuted neocons are with the liberal media. great reading while watching the first place kansas city royals :driving:
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Not everyone gets one seven.
What's even more fantastic is that you're supposedly "tired of all the bullshit" but you keep posting in this forum.
Weird.
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I know this isn't your direct point. But why don't we castigate Bush for failing to live up to the campaign promises? Why is Obama held to a higher standard of failure when pretty much all previous administrations promised and failed to deliver in a multitude of ways? For instance, people don't rail about Bush failing to live up to his no nation building pledge in the same way people rail against Obama's transparency issues. Could it be that maybe Obama was just really naive in everything from state secrets, to intelligence systems, to how Washington actually works.
Yep, if there's one thing we can all agree on it's that George W. Bush was basically given a pass by the media concerning his shortcomings and failings.
yeah, thank god.
(good thing I didn't say anything rough ridin' close to that. )
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Not everyone gets one seven.
What's even more fantastic is that you're supposedly "tired of all the bullshit" but you keep posting in this forum.
Weird.
it's fun, and sometimes you guys are real WONKS (i absolutely love your new word dax) about how persecuted neocons are with the liberal media. great reading while watching the first place kansas city royals :driving:
WONKS has really been around for quite a long time, but again, it just seems strange that someone who is "tired of all the bullshit" just keeps coming back for more. So I'll just assume that you're not really tired of all the bullshit but sadly you've got nothing really intelligent to say. That's okay, not everyone can be smart seven, society will find a place for you.
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Not everyone gets one seven.
What's even more fantastic is that you're supposedly "tired of all the bullshit" but you keep posting in this forum.
Weird.
it's fun, and sometimes you guys are real WONKS (i absolutely love your new word dax) about how persecuted neocons are with the liberal media. great reading while watching the first place kansas city royals :driving:
WONKS has really been around for quite a long time, but again, it just seems strange that someone who is "tired of all the bullshit" just keeps coming back for more. So I'll just assume that you're not really tired of all the bullshit but sadly you've got nothing really intelligent to say. That's okay, not everyone can be smart seven, society will find a place for you.
yeah, you've just been using it more lately and it's made me giggle pretty hard everytime i see it. such a great word!
man, laugh at an agendite neocon about his wildly inaccurate media views and they get really... sad... really...
wierd. . .
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Not everyone gets one seven.
What's even more fantastic is that you're supposedly "tired of all the bullshit" but you keep posting in this forum.
Weird.
it's fun, and sometimes you guys are real WONKS (i absolutely love your new word dax) about how persecuted neocons are with the liberal media. great reading while watching the first place kansas city royals :driving:
WONKS has really been around for quite a long time, but again, it just seems strange that someone who is "tired of all the bullshit" just keeps coming back for more. So I'll just assume that you're not really tired of all the bullshit but sadly you've got nothing really intelligent to say. That's okay, not everyone can be smart seven, society will find a place for you.
yeah, you've just been using it more lately and it's made me giggle pretty hard everytime i see it. such a great word!
man, laugh at an agendite neocon about his wildly inaccurate media views and they get really... sad... really...
wierd. . .
Seven, why would my media view be wildly inaccurate? Wasn't there a survey in the not so distant past that showed many of the people engaged in the primary media outlets were Democrats and/or liberal politically? At one time one of the (former) top people in the Clinton administration lead CNN, before they decided it was failing so badly that they had to make it look like they had moved to the center. I think we can agree that another major news outlet MSNBC is essentially the DNC teleprompter. Now I get that you probably think that Fox News makes up for all of that (and BTW I watch about 5 minutes of Fox News a month) or that Limbaugh or whomever makes up for it on the airwaves. I also get that the new media has brought more conservative media into the mainstream. But that still doesn't make up for entities, that while dying on the vine (or at least some are), still have a sway on our society and they in most cases lean left. Wash Post, NYT, LA Times, HuffPO, Slate etc. etc. coupled with the 3 of the 4 major broadcast networks lean from moderate left to very left.
In addition, my original post about the media was also related to the context of the subject matter at hand. Remember, the subject of this thread which you've chosen to ignore entirely, because you're, you know, tired of all the bullshit (but not really).
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Good one seven.
So you're not really tired of all the bullshit, you're actually quite turned on about it.
Weird, but it's okay. We welcome all types here.
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The media is overtly left bias. I think 7 is saying there's no reason to constantly bring it up. Like there's no reason to remind everyone that labor unions don't give a crap about the people they force to be in their union, it goes without saying.
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True, Seven's really saying we should just take the left lean as a given.
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keep going! :D
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We should probably study this, let's take the money out of the Dept. of Education. That seems like a good start, and seven even hinted at something similar in the St. Louis thread. Strange though, seeing that he's tired of all the bullshit political discussion.
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The media is overtly left bias. I think 7 is saying there's no reason to constantly bring it up. Like there's no reason to remind everyone that labor unions don't give a crap about the people they force to be in their union, it goes without saying.
Can you help me ferret out the economic underpinnings of the media's left-leaning proclivities? These media companies are out to maximize profits, and as such are subject to the same market forces as any company in a capitalist society.
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:Lolrun:
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The media is overtly left bias. I think 7 is saying there's no reason to constantly bring it up. Like there's no reason to remind everyone that labor unions don't give a crap about the people they force to be in their union, it goes without saying.
Can you help me ferret out the economic underpinnings of the media's left-leaning proclivities? These media companies are out to maximize profits, and as such are subject to the same market forces as any company in a capitalist society.
As with most left leaning institutions, they continually under pay their untalented and unintelligent workforce, but reward them with light hours, no expectations and repeatedly tell them how smart they are and that they deserve more. If anything the economics have crushed the industry, leaving only a few corpojuggernaughts who make their money elsewhere. Fox is crushing them $$ wise
Is there any debating that the public is now more misinformed than they've been since the FDR admin?
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Is there any debating that the public is now more misinformed than they've been since the FDR admin?
wonder if fox news has anything to do with this (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fth323.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fnn462%2Fmirt68%2Fth_Smiley-Question.jpg&hash=e114883e34ec6fe414340e60067dd61aa9dc143f)
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The media is overtly left bias. I think 7 is saying there's no reason to constantly bring it up. Like there's no reason to remind everyone that labor unions don't give a crap about the people they force to be in their union, it goes without saying.
Can you help me ferret out the economic underpinnings of the media's left-leaning proclivities? These media companies are out to maximize profits, and as such are subject to the same market forces as any company in a capitalist society.
As with most left leaning institutions, they continually under pay their untalented and unintelligent workforce, but reward them with light hours, no expectations and repeatedly tell them how smart they are and that they deserve more. If anything the economics have crushed the industry, leaving only a few corpojuggernaughts who make their money elsewhere. Fox is crushing them $$ wise
Is there any debating that the public is now more misinformed than they've been since the FDR admin?
If Fox News is crushing them with a different business model, then why hasn't a preponderance of companies replicated the Fox model?
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The media is overtly left bias. I think 7 is saying there's no reason to constantly bring it up. Like there's no reason to remind everyone that labor unions don't give a crap about the people they force to be in their union, it goes without saying.
Can you help me ferret out the economic underpinnings of the media's left-leaning proclivities? These media companies are out to maximize profits, and as such are subject to the same market forces as any company in a capitalist society.
As with most left leaning institutions, they continually under pay their untalented and unintelligent workforce, but reward them with light hours, no expectations and repeatedly tell them how smart they are and that they deserve more. If anything the economics have crushed the industry, leaving only a few corpojuggernaughts who make their money elsewhere. Fox is crushing them $$ wise
Is there any debating that the public is now more misinformed than they've been since the FDR admin?
If Fox News is crushing them with a different business model, then why hasn't a preponderance of companies replicated the Fox model?
Why doesn't Pepsi taste more like coke?
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Is there any debating that the public is now more misinformed than they've been since the FDR admin?
wonder if fox news has anything to do with this (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fth323.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fnn462%2Fmirt68%2Fth_Smiley-Question.jpg&hash=e114883e34ec6fe414340e60067dd61aa9dc143f)
Thinks Hiroshima was justified.
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The media is overtly left bias. I think 7 is saying there's no reason to constantly bring it up. Like there's no reason to remind everyone that labor unions don't give a crap about the people they force to be in their union, it goes without saying.
Can you help me ferret out the economic underpinnings of the media's left-leaning proclivities? These media companies are out to maximize profits, and as such are subject to the same market forces as any company in a capitalist society.
As with most left leaning institutions, they continually under pay their untalented and unintelligent workforce, but reward them with light hours, no expectations and repeatedly tell them how smart they are and that they deserve more. If anything the economics have crushed the industry, leaving only a few corpojuggernaughts who make their money elsewhere. Fox is crushing them $$ wise
Is there any debating that the public is now more misinformed than they've been since the FDR admin?
If Fox News is crushing them with a different business model, then why hasn't a preponderance of companies replicated the Fox model?
Why doesn't Pepsi taste more like coke?
But the soda market isn't radically Pepsi-leaning
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The left: If you don't agree with us, you're misinformed.
Sounds like . . . bullshit.
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Is there any debating that the public is now more misinformed than they've been since the FDR admin?
wonder if fox news has anything to do with this (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fth323.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fnn462%2Fmirt68%2Fth_Smiley-Question.jpg&hash=e114883e34ec6fe414340e60067dd61aa9dc143f)
Thinks Hiroshima was justified.
1d?
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Hey, didn't (D) hero Harry Truman drop the big one (and create the CIA and NSA)? Or is that just some bullshit political discussion that seven hates?
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The Obama Administration: The FOIA is just a bunch of bullshit.
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The media is overtly left bias. I think 7 is saying there's no reason to constantly bring it up. Like there's no reason to remind everyone that labor unions don't give a crap about the people they force to be in their union, it goes without saying.
Can you help me ferret out the economic underpinnings of the media's left-leaning proclivities? These media companies are out to maximize profits, and as such are subject to the same market forces as any company in a capitalist society.
As with most left leaning institutions, they continually under pay their untalented and unintelligent workforce, but reward them with light hours, no expectations and repeatedly tell them how smart they are and that they deserve more. If anything the economics have crushed the industry, leaving only a few corpojuggernaughts who make their money elsewhere. Fox is crushing them $$ wise
Is there any debating that the public is now more misinformed than they've been since the FDR admin?
If Fox News is crushing them with a different business model, then why hasn't a preponderance of companies replicated the Fox model?
Why doesn't Pepsi taste more like coke?
But the soda market isn't radically Pepsi-leaning
No, it's radically coke leaning. But you can still get an rc cola if you look for one.
I would venture a guess that fewer people (% wise) get their news and information from a so-called "msm" outlet than ever, probably on a dramatically increasing basis. If that doesn't satisfy your "free markets" smell test, I don't know what will.
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Hey, didn't (D) hero Harry Truman drop the big one (and create the CIA and NSA)? Or is that just some bullshit political discussion that seven hates?
look at this agendite go!
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Hey, didn't (D) hero Harry Truman drop the big one (and create the CIA and NSA)? Or is that just some bullshit political discussion that seven hates?
look at this agendite go!
Why do you keep responding to the same old bullshit political discussion seven, you hate the same old bullshit political stuff . . . remember?
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The Obama Administration: You can take that bullshit FOIA bullshit and stuff it up where the bullshit comes from mister.
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wor(n)ked (sprac ;)) up dax is one of the best things on this blog :lol:
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Hey, didn't (D) hero Harry Truman drop the big one (and create the CIA and NSA)? Or is that just some bullshit political discussion that seven hates?
Went to Truman presidential library this weekend and there's a recording of Truman calling McCarthy a no good son of a bitch and Stalin a bastard. It was great. Also, Truman seemed pretty badass.
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Hey, didn't (D) hero Harry Truman drop the big one (and create the CIA and NSA)? Or is that just some bullshit political discussion that seven hates?
And nagasaki! Hundreds of thousands of dead Japanese civilians. Who cares though, they all look the same. Now, an investigation into why rioting and looting is justified.
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wor(n)ked (sprac ;)) up dax is one of the best things on this blog :lol:
Yet you keep responding. Seems kind of bullshitty to me seven.
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The media is overtly left bias. I think 7 is saying there's no reason to constantly bring it up. Like there's no reason to remind everyone that labor unions don't give a crap about the people they force to be in their union, it goes without saying.
Can you help me ferret out the economic underpinnings of the media's left-leaning proclivities? These media companies are out to maximize profits, and as such are subject to the same market forces as any company in a capitalist society.
As with most left leaning institutions, they continually under pay their untalented and unintelligent workforce, but reward them with light hours, no expectations and repeatedly tell them how smart they are and that they deserve more. If anything the economics have crushed the industry, leaving only a few corpojuggernaughts who make their money elsewhere. Fox is crushing them $$ wise
Is there any debating that the public is now more misinformed than they've been since the FDR admin?
If Fox News is crushing them with a different business model, then why hasn't a preponderance of companies replicated the Fox model?
Why doesn't Pepsi taste more like coke?
But the soda market isn't radically Pepsi-leaning
No, it's radically coke leaning. But you can still get an rc cola if you look for one.
I would venture a guess that fewer people (% wise) get their news and information from a so-called "msm" outlet than ever, probably on a dramatically increasing basis. If that doesn't satisfy your "free markets" smell test, I don't know what will.
FYI, I'm not leading you into a trap. I'm wondering what inferences we may be able to make by considering our media constitution.
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wor(n)ked (sprac ;)) up dax is one of the best things on this blog :lol:
Yet you keep responding. Seems kind of bullshitty to me seven.
because responding is your fuel, and you need fuel to really get going. my irl face right now ---> :grin:
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The media is overtly left bias. I think 7 is saying there's no reason to constantly bring it up. Like there's no reason to remind everyone that labor unions don't give a crap about the people they force to be in their union, it goes without saying.
Can you help me ferret out the economic underpinnings of the media's left-leaning proclivities? These media companies are out to maximize profits, and as such are subject to the same market forces as any company in a capitalist society.
As with most left leaning institutions, they continually under pay their untalented and unintelligent workforce, but reward them with light hours, no expectations and repeatedly tell them how smart they are and that they deserve more. If anything the economics have crushed the industry, leaving only a few corpojuggernaughts who make their money elsewhere. Fox is crushing them $$ wise
Is there any debating that the public is now more misinformed than they've been since the FDR admin?
So you're saying Fox news is killing it(owning the market share of viewers) and the source of informing the most uninformed people since FDR?
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wor(n)ked (sprac ;)) up dax is one of the best things on this blog :lol:
Yet you keep responding. Seems kind of bullshitty to me seven.
because responding is your fuel, and you need fuel to really get going. my irl face right now ---> :grin:
Oh if you don't think I'm not having fun, you're sadly mistaken. Just the thought that I can post anything and you'll respond makes me absolutely :billdance:
I could take this whole "tired of the bullshit, but I keep on posting" theme and run with it for days. :Woot:
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The defense mechanisms are strong in 7 tonight.
Libbot 7.0 does not compute, Fox news!!! ... beep bop ... Neocon!!! ...bzzz.. Racist!!!! .... deeeeeedddoo .... homophobe!!!! ... errrrrrr...Limbaugh!!!!!! ..... bzzzzeeeeooooop...powering down.
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wor(n)ked (sprac ;)) up dax is one of the best things on this blog :lol:
Yet you keep responding. Seems kind of bullshitty to me seven.
because responding is your fuel, and you need fuel to really get going. my irl face right now ---> :grin:
Oh if you don't think I'm not having fun, you're sadly mistaken. Just the thought that I can post anything and you'll respond makes me absolutely :billdance:
I could take this whole "tired of the bullshit, but I keep on posting" theme and run with it for days. :Woot:
actual thought about an hour ago "omg, he's going to run with this for weeks :D :D :D" :lol:
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The defense mechanisms are strong in 7 tonight.
Libbot 7.0 does not compute, Fox news!!! ... beep bop ... Neocon!!! ...bzzz.. Racist!!!! .... deeeeeedddoo .... homophobe!!!! ... errrrrrr...Limbaugh!!!!!! ..... bzzzzeeeeooooop...powering down.
libbot 7.0 OMG :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:lol:
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The media is overtly left bias. I think 7 is saying there's no reason to constantly bring it up. Like there's no reason to remind everyone that labor unions don't give a crap about the people they force to be in their union, it goes without saying.
Can you help me ferret out the economic underpinnings of the media's left-leaning proclivities? These media companies are out to maximize profits, and as such are subject to the same market forces as any company in a capitalist society.
As with most left leaning institutions, they continually under pay their untalented and unintelligent workforce, but reward them with light hours, no expectations and repeatedly tell them how smart they are and that they deserve more. If anything the economics have crushed the industry, leaving only a few corpojuggernaughts who make their money elsewhere. Fox is crushing them $$ wise
Is there any debating that the public is now more misinformed than they've been since the FDR admin?
If Fox News is crushing them with a different business model, then why hasn't a preponderance of companies replicated the Fox model?
Why doesn't Pepsi taste more like coke?
But the soda market isn't radically Pepsi-leaning
No, it's radically coke leaning. But you can still get an rc cola if you look for one.
I would venture a guess that fewer people (% wise) get their news and information from a so-called "msm" outlet than ever, probably on a dramatically increasing basis. If that doesn't satisfy your "free markets" smell test, I don't know what will.
FYI, I'm not leading you into a trap. I'm wondering what inferences we may be able to make by considering our media constitution.
Okay. Infer away.
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The lawsuit isn’t the only time the administration is coming under fire for transparency issues. Just this last weekend, James Risen, The New York Times reporter facing potential jail time for refusing to name his source, called the president the “greatest enemy of press freedom in a generation,” in Maureen Dowd’s Sunday column.
I must say that's startling, when the NYT's is getting pi$$ed you know things are bad. I somewhat slightly rescind .008% of what I said about the NYT leaning left. It only took them half a decade to catch on, but they're slowly catching on.
But hey, that's just some kind of bullshit tired political discussion that seven really hates (seven the polibot head explodes)
http://news.yahoo.com/group-sues-obama-over-access-091500146.html
Seven thinks this reality is just a bunch of, dare I say . . . bullshit politics (that everyone is tired of).
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The media is overtly left bias. I think 7 is saying there's no reason to constantly bring it up. Like there's no reason to remind everyone that labor unions don't give a crap about the people they force to be in their union, it goes without saying.
Can you help me ferret out the economic underpinnings of the media's left-leaning proclivities? These media companies are out to maximize profits, and as such are subject to the same market forces as any company in a capitalist society.
The news is a very small part of the huge companies that own the networks. I don't think spending a few million a year is an issue as long as they push the agenda and make the administration happy. Having a generous king on your side is very beneficial for business.
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The media is overtly left bias. I think 7 is saying there's no reason to constantly bring it up. Like there's no reason to remind everyone that labor unions don't give a crap about the people they force to be in their union, it goes without saying.
Can you help me ferret out the economic underpinnings of the media's left-leaning proclivities? These media companies are out to maximize profits, and as such are subject to the same market forces as any company in a capitalist society.
The news is a very small part of the huge companies that own the networks. I don't think spending a few million a year is an issue as long as they push the agenda and make the administration happy. Having a generous king on your side is very beneficial for business.
But corporations vote for neocons :runaway:
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Bullshit Politics Said:
But corporations vote for neocons
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