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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: scottwildcat on August 07, 2014, 12:54:08 PM
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Somebody explain to me what this means TIA
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:sdeek:
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:sdeek:
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Does this mean they will be able to decide if they can start paying players?
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So the SEC kills Title 9... ups football schollies to 150 per team and lets them pay the players. SO long college football.
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Somebody explain to me what this means TIA
Anarchy and lawlessness!
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Yep. It was only a matter of time now that all the playoff stuff has been finalized. I'm not so knowledgable on the topic to speak too much about it but I don't see this being a good thing for college football at all.
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What a joke. NCAA just disbanded itself.
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Does this mean they will be able to decide if they can start paying players?
yes, i believe this brings stipends into play. it does not affect transfer rules, postseason tournaments and rules of the game (imagine that!), i don't think.
poor cincy and uconn, and rutgers is really goddamn lucky. louisville, too.
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:driving:
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:zzz:
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Does this mean they will be able to decide if they can start paying players?
yes, i believe this brings stipends into play. it does not affect transfer rules, postseason tournaments and rules of the game (imagine that!), i don't think.
poor cincy and uconn, and rutgers is really goddamn lucky. louisville, too.
and wvu
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Does this mean they will be able to decide if they can start paying players?
yes, i believe this brings stipends into play. it does not affect transfer rules, postseason tournaments and rules of the game (imagine that!), i don't think.
poor cincy and uconn, and rutgers is really goddamn lucky. louisville, too.
and wvu
And TCU
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Does this mean they will be able to decide if they can start paying players?
yes, i believe this brings stipends into play. it does not affect transfer rules, postseason tournaments and rules of the game (imagine that!), i don't think.
poor cincy and uconn, and rutgers is really goddamn lucky. louisville, too.
and wvu
And TCU
especially tcu
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaa-board-hands-5-biggest-171531415--spt.html?soc_src=copy
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Does this mean they will be able to decide if they can start paying players?
yes, i believe this brings stipends into play. it does not affect transfer rules, postseason tournaments and rules of the game (imagine that!), i don't think.
poor cincy and uconn, and rutgers is really goddamn lucky. louisville, too.
and wvu
and TCU
and Iowa State
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NCAA just made itself a little bro to the new 800lbs gorilla.
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Somebody explain to me what this means TIA
Anarchy and lawlessness!
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I don't think this is going to end well
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Let the games begin!
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BYU? Can't think they'll just sit idly with this.
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Guesses on first change?
All P-5 schools must schedule all non-cons with other P-5 schools.
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BYU? Can't think they'll just sit idly with this.
Notre Dame?
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Should this be combined with cigars thread? I have a feeling we will get there.
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Paying players stipends
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Let the games begin!
We live in a wondrous new world, which may kill us, but will certainly entertain us!
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You gotta think the non P5 schools are going to sue or something
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BYU? Can't think they'll just sit idly with this.
Notre Dame?
No crap
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BYU? Can't think they'll just sit idly with this.
Notre Dame?
ND is going to be included in the P5 fwiw
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It might force Notre Dame to join a conference as a full member.
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Guesses on first change?
All P-5 schools must schedule all non-cons with other P-5 schools.
Squawks would make a killing with this. Can you imagine all the P5 schools that would be lining up on their doorstep looking to pay them to come to their house with no return game?
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It might force Notre Dame to join a conference as a full member.
Doubt it
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Guesses on first change?
All P-5 schools must schedule all non-cons with other P-5 schools.
Squawks would make a killing with this. Can you imagine all the P5 schools that would be lining up on their doorstep looking to pay them to come to their house with no return game?
The P-5 Washington Generals
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It's like a football apocalypse rapture.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaa-board-hands-5-biggest-171531415--spt.html?soc_src=copy
This may keep people quiet for a bit. No way the power conferences accept all those restrictions for very long, and no way the little guys will suck it up and do what they are told. I bet the big 5 still bolt next year.
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So who is supposed to spend the time over every single rule change to analyze it?
How can I profit from this? I think we need to pull a Jerry Maguire and start signing kids to our goEMAW agency. We offer free insurance benefits because we are all about family.
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So who is supposed to spend the time over every single rule change to analyze it?
How can I profit from this? I think we need to pull a Jerry Maguire and start signing kids to our goEMAW agency. We offer free insurance benefits because we are all about family.
Start a consortium for P-5 football conferences and start branding ourselves as the superior alternative to the NCAA organization. Soon they will be known as the gE-5 football conferences. :gocho:
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This article does a great job of explaining most everything about this vote...
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/ncaa-division-i-autonomy-vote-sec-mike-slive-power-5-080514
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Can you imagine how many god damn diamonds in the rough we are going to mine when the scholarship limit for football goes back to being well north of 100?
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Can you imagine how many god damn diamonds in the rough we are going to mine when the scholarship limit for football goes back to being well north of 100?
Think of all the near top level guys that used to want to be stars at places like Northern Illinois that will now want to play at a P-5 school such as K-State
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This is a big part of this vote..
Q: So what exactly will the Power 5 be able to vote on for themselves?
The NCAA’s proposal outlines 10 areas in which the Power 5 can use their resources to “enhance the well-being of student-athletes.” They are: financial aid, health and wellness, meals and nutrition, expenses and benefits, career pursuits, insurance and career transitions, time demands, academic support, recruiting and personnel.
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Can you imagine how many god damn diamonds in the rough we are going to mine when the scholarship limit for football goes back to being well north of 100?
I am excited to get DITRs out of the Gulf states that will come for the extra $ and will also be more likely to stay :popcorn:
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Can you imagine how many god damn diamonds in the rough we are going to mine when the scholarship limit for football goes back to being well north of 100?
I am excited to get DITRs out of the Gulf states that will come for the extra $ and will also be more likely to stay :popcorn:
From oaf's linked article:
Nor will the Power 5 be able to enact their own scholarship limits (i.e., going from 85 to 95 in football)
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Can you imagine how many god damn diamonds in the rough we are going to mine when the scholarship limit for football goes back to being well north of 100?
I am excited to get DITRs out of the Gulf states that will come for the extra $ and will also be more likely to stay :popcorn:
From oaf's linked article:
Nor will the Power 5 be able to enact their own scholarship limits (i.e., going from 85 to 95 in football)
For now....
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Does this mean they will be able to decide if they can start paying players?
yes, i believe this brings stipends into play. it does not affect transfer rules, postseason tournaments and rules of the game (imagine that!), i don't think.
poor cincy and uconn, and rutgers is really goddamn lucky. louisville, too.
I'm surprised what I'm about to say isn't being talked about much.
A Tulsa paper and radio guy went to the AAC media day and their commish was telling everyone they will do everything they can to keep up. The AAC won't have voting power, but autonomy is set up so that once something is passed every other conference has the choice to enact any part of the new rules they want. They can enact parts/all of whatever new rules they want for their entire conference or allow schools to pick what additional benefits they want to offer on their own. It will still suck for them from a budget stand point because it will cost them a lot while not having near the revenue stream of the power 5.
This is where it could move to the cigars thread, but I see infighting in both the MW and AAC with what to allow in their conferences. I could schools like UConn, Cincy, Boise St., and Nevada pushing to allow more in their conferences than the likes of Tulsa, Utah St, ECU, and SJSU. I wouldn't be surprised of the old Big East play of going national happens again where those conferences mutually agree to split and re-org as two separate conferences while playing minimal regional conference games and having scheduling agreements to pay 2-3 regional cross-conference games per year.
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someone needs to mod this into the thread we already have on this topic, paging mods
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Can you imagine how many god damn diamonds in the rough we are going to mine when the scholarship limit for football goes back to being well north of 100?
We are going to need more Snyders on staff.
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Does this mean they will be able to decide if they can start paying players?
yes, i believe this brings stipends into play. it does not affect transfer rules, postseason tournaments and rules of the game (imagine that!), i don't think.
poor cincy and uconn, and rutgers is really goddamn lucky. louisville, too.
I'm surprised what I'm about to say isn't being talked about much.
A Tulsa paper and radio guy went to the AAC media day and their commish was telling everyone they will do everything they can to keep up. The AAC won't have voting power, but autonomy is set up so that once something is passed every other conference has the choice to enact any part of the new rules they want. They can enact parts/all of whatever new rules they want for their entire conference or allow schools to pick what additional benefits they want to offer on their own. It will still suck for them from a budget stand point because it will cost them a lot while not having near the revenue stream of the power 5.
This is where it could move to the cigars thread, but I see infighting in both the MW and AAC with what to allow in their conferences. I could schools like UConn, Cincy, Boise St., and Nevada pushing to allow more in their conferences than the likes of Tulsa, Utah St, ECU, and SJSU. I wouldn't be surprised of the old Big East play of going national happens again where those conferences mutually agree to split and re-org as two separate conferences while playing minimal regional conference games and having scheduling agreements to pay 2-3 regional cross-conference games per year.
It's the refugee conference that I always thought could happen.
Grab the six strongest from the west and the six strongest from the East and figure it all out.
Honestly, my guess is that they somehow merge the MW and AAC. That's their only hope.
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Should this be combined with cigars thread? I have a feeling we will get there.
I don't think so. :nono: I tried a while back and the Mods moved it into a seperate thread. :th_twocents:
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Nobody seems to see the real benifits from these offerings the P-5 will or might do. The arms race is over. Like Synder says, we won't need to spend millions upon millions on amenities. It's much cheaper to just pay these payers in benifits. No payer worth their weight will even think about going to a university that doesn't offer what the P-5 will offer.
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Nobody seems to see the real benifits from these offerings the P-5 will or might do. The arms race is over. Like Synder says, we won't need to spend millions upon millions on amenities. It's much cheaper to just pay these payers in benifits. No payer worth their weight will even think about going to a university that doesn't offer what the P-5 will offer.
So much this. That's right folks, instead of picking a hat, now they'll just draw names out of one.
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Nobody seems to see the real benifits from these offerings the P-5 will or might do. The arms race is over. Like Synder says, we won't need to spend millions upon millions on amenities. It's much cheaper to just pay these payers in benifits. No payer worth their weight will even think about going to a university that doesn't offer what the P-5 will offer.
So much this. That's right folks, instead of picking a hat, now they'll just draw names out of one.
Damn we're luckly to have Sprance around. :grin:
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Okay so who in garden city do I sent the check to for 1700
We need to be proactive about this, everybody get your dicks(Amex card) out
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Okay so who in garden city do I sent the check to for 1700
We need to be proactive about this, everybody get your dicks(Amex card) out
I've seen enough tweets to convince me not to get my dick out around Dvonta.
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Can you imagine how many god damn diamonds in the rough we are going to mine when the scholarship limit for football goes back to being well north of 100?
I am excited to get DITRs out of the Gulf states that will come for the extra $ and will also be more likely to stay :popcorn:
From oaf's linked article:
Nor will the Power 5 be able to enact their own scholarship limits (i.e., going from 85 to 95 in football)
For now....
Autonomy within the confines of NCAA does not provide autonomy within the confines of the federal government and title IX.
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I haven't read all the posts and don't know much about all that was being voted on. But, can anyone tell me if this would give the BXII the opening to have a championship game without 12 members?
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I haven't read all the posts and don't know much about all that was being voted on. But, can anyone tell me if this would give the BXII the opening to have a championship game without 12 members?
No
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I haven't read all the posts and don't know much about all that was being voted on. But, can anyone tell me if this would give the BXII the opening to have a championship game without 12 members?
The NCAA wasn't preventing this, we could have petitioned to have one. The Big 12, intelligently and rightfully, doesn't want one.
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So, one of the items that the P5 want is the ability to pay to send family members to games.
If this works out like I hope it works, then we should be recruiting the rough ridin' crap out of the greater Dallas area.....direct flight to MHK, with a 10 minute drive to your hotel (which is situated where the Ernie Barrett statue currently stands).
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So, one of the items that the P5 want is the ability to pay to send family members to games.
If this works out like I hope it works, then we should be recruiting the rough ridin' crap out of the greater Dallas area.....direct flight to MHK, with a 10 minute drive to your hotel (which is situated where the Ernie Barrett statue currently stands).
we can't afford to send family members to games pete
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I haven't read all the posts and don't know much about all that was being voted on. But, can anyone tell me if this would give the BXII the opening to have a championship game without 12 members?
The NCAA wasn't preventing this, we could have petitioned to have one. The Big 12, intelligently and rightfully, doesn't want one.
They kinda already have. http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jeremy-fowler/21508673/big-12-in-talks-with-ncaa-about-12-team-conference-rule (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jeremy-fowler/21508673/big-12-in-talks-with-ncaa-about-12-team-conference-rule)
The reason I asked was due to having the option if needed in the new format. We all know the true champion slogan is BS and has already been proven. Intelligently, we should pursue the option. Rightfully, is just an opinion. Not saying we need it, but don't get stuck with 20/20 hindsight.
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So, one of the items that the P5 want is the ability to pay to send family members to games.
If this works out like I hope it works, then we should be recruiting the rough ridin' crap out of the greater Dallas area.....direct flight to MHK, with a 10 minute drive to your hotel (which is situated where the Ernie Barrett statue currently stands).
we can't afford to send family members to games pete
What makes you say that? I see a budget excess that needs spending. Plus, I am hopeful for exorbitant price increases for the best seats at football games.
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I haven't read all the posts and don't know much about all that was being voted on. But, can anyone tell me if this would give the BXII the opening to have a championship game without 12 members?
The NCAA wasn't preventing this, we could have petitioned to have one. The Big 12, intelligently and rightfully, doesn't want one.
They kinda already have. http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jeremy-fowler/21508673/big-12-in-talks-with-ncaa-about-12-team-conference-rule (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jeremy-fowler/21508673/big-12-in-talks-with-ncaa-about-12-team-conference-rule)
The reason I asked was due to having the option if needed in the new format. We all know the true champion slogan is BS and has already been proven. Intelligently, we should pursue the option. Rightfully, is just an opinion. Not saying we need it, but don't get stuck with 20/20 hindsight.
They denied the Big 12's request, IIRC.
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So, one of the items that the P5 want is the ability to pay to send family members to games.
If this works out like I hope it works, then we should be recruiting the rough ridin' crap out of the greater Dallas area.....direct flight to MHK, with a 10 minute drive to your hotel (which is situated where the Ernie Barrett statue currently stands).
Every article I've read adds "to post season games" when talking about paying for family travel.
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I haven't read all the posts and don't know much about all that was being voted on. But, can anyone tell me if this would give the BXII the opening to have a championship game without 12 members?
The NCAA wasn't preventing this, we could have petitioned to have one. The Big 12, intelligently and rightfully, doesn't want one.
They kinda already have. http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jeremy-fowler/21508673/big-12-in-talks-with-ncaa-about-12-team-conference-rule (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jeremy-fowler/21508673/big-12-in-talks-with-ncaa-about-12-team-conference-rule)
The reason I asked was due to having the option if needed in the new format. We all know the true champion slogan is BS and has already been proven. Intelligently, we should pursue the option. Rightfully, is just an opinion. Not saying we need it, but don't get stuck with 20/20 hindsight.
They denied the Big 12's request, IIRC.
Yep, which led me to the question. I don't want one with a 10 team conference either. But, it would be good to have in our back pocket if the time comes that a 13th game is deemed crucial to playoffs. What teams do we get to come to 12 if that happens? Who would we want? We can still have two divisions with 10 and still play everyone.
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So, one of the items that the P5 want is the ability to pay to send family members to games.
If this works out like I hope it works, then we should be recruiting the rough ridin' crap out of the greater Dallas area.....direct flight to MHK, with a 10 minute drive to your hotel (which is situated where the Ernie Barrett statue currently stands).
Every article I've read adds "to post season games" when talking about paying for family travel.
I'd be up for sending the family instead of our band and the classy cats, if it came to that. No offense, band and classy cats, but come on....
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So, one of the items that the P5 want is the ability to pay to send family members to games.
If this works out like I hope it works, then we should be recruiting the rough ridin' crap out of the greater Dallas area.....direct flight to MHK, with a 10 minute drive to your hotel (which is situated where the Ernie Barrett statue currently stands).
Every article I've read adds "to post season games" when talking about paying for family travel.
I'd be up for sending the family instead of our band and the classy cats, if it came to that. No offense, band and classy cats, but come on....
No doubt.
Also, on friday nights, just charter a jet to fly direct from dallas and Chicago and build a family wing on a dorm or something.