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Title: CO
Post by: steve dave on July 03, 2014, 07:25:54 AM
this seems to have worked out pretty well for them

http://mic.com/articles/92449/six-months-after-legalizing-marijuana-two-big-things-have-happened-in-colorado
Title: Re: CO
Post by: Benja on July 03, 2014, 08:20:44 AM
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"Expect more crime, more kids using marijuana and pot for sale everywhere," said Douglas County Sheriff David Weaver in 2012.

what a freaking idiot
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Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on July 03, 2014, 01:53:40 PM
Interesting!

Only problem with the article was the last chart.  Showing an increase in money spent between 1970 and 2010 means almost nothing unless it adjusts for inflation.
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Post by: nicname on July 04, 2014, 01:26:38 AM
I'm a fan of this.
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Post by: star seed 7 on July 04, 2014, 02:23:50 AM
Weed dopers should fist themselves
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Post by: paulnyakatura on July 06, 2014, 08:41:16 PM
Apparently, it's not all pot smoke and rainbows. A friend that lives in Denver chimed in when I posted this on FB. Sorry in advance for all the reading.
 

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This article is bias! The sales tax revenue lagged projections prior to legalization, but not by much. There are a whole host of other things going on here as well that they ignore. My guess is that the author does not live here, and doesn't actively participate in this industry

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A blaring exception would be the unregulated butane extraction process that has caused a couple of explosions in recent weeks. Another would be the demographics shift of Pueblo County, one of the early counties to implement recreational. A third would be the Cherry Creek cartel bust that was linked to a major dispensary here. A fourth would be the unfair financial restrictions that have been placed upon dispensaries that have led to burglaries. There is a lack of availability of commercial warehouse space here, and many dispensaries conduct operations in houses zoned as residential properties. There are positive aspects of legalization that they ignore also... but basically this article doesn't take a real look at what is going on here

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There are problems with the Federal government classifying it as a schedule 1 drug. That means the Feds have effectively refused to regulate the operations, except to mandate cash only transactions and occasionally bust dispensaries. It's led to a lot of problems. A lot of these companies trade as pink sheet penny stocks and have zero credibility. There are also a lot of great businesses here that have sprouted up. It really is the wild west out here, and there is a lot left to shake out. Short term, Colorado was probably better off when back when it was illegal, but decriminalized. But over the long term it may be very positive, especially if the legalization trend goes national. The people that operate here are well positioned to grow nationwide if that happens.
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Post by: Mr Bread on July 06, 2014, 09:53:08 PM
Very compelling.  All points clearly stated and supported. 
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Post by: hemmy on July 06, 2014, 09:57:32 PM
I am all for legalizing most drugs, but that 6 month crime rate statistic is completely meaningless.
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Post by: michigancat on July 06, 2014, 11:14:23 PM
I am all for legalizing most drugs, but that 6 month crime rate statistic is completely meaningless.

I would agree with that.
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Post by: ednksu on July 06, 2014, 11:50:54 PM
nearly 100 million dollar swing on the ledger books isn't meaningless tho
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Post by: waks on July 07, 2014, 04:33:50 AM
Very compelling.  All points clearly stated and supported.
:)
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Post by: CNS on July 07, 2014, 12:33:40 PM
All this back and forth with no great foundation info backing it up.  I just cleared the calendar and am going to Denver and Boulder next week.  Will report back with ground level findings.
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Post by: Kat Kid on July 07, 2014, 12:57:50 PM
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A program that provides contraceptives to low-income women contributed to a 40-percent drop in Colorado's teen birth rate over five years, according to state officials.

The program, known as the Colorado Family Planning Initiative, provides intrauterine devices (IUDs) or implants at little to no cost for low-income women at 68 family planning clinics in Colorado.

The teen abortion rate dropped by 35 percent from 2009 to 2012 in counties served by the program, according to the state's estimates.

Young women served by the family planning clinics also accounted for about three-fourths of the overall decline in Colorado's teen birth rate during the same time period. And the infant caseload for Colorado WIC, a nutrition program for low-income women and their babies, fell by 23 percent from 2008 to 2013.

http://www.vox.com/2014/7/7/5877505/colorado-contraceptives-teen-pregnancy-birth-control (http://www.vox.com/2014/7/7/5877505/colorado-contraceptives-teen-pregnancy-birth-control)
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Post by: j-dub on July 07, 2014, 01:04:59 PM
All this back and forth with no great foundation info backing it up.  I just cleared the calendar and am going to Denver and Boulder next week.  Will report back with ground level findings.

when in boulder, grab a burger at mountain sun  :drool:
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Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on July 07, 2014, 01:38:12 PM
god bless the beautiful state of Colorado
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Post by: Benja on July 07, 2014, 01:44:51 PM
My view on weed is meh, it's weed. Lets make it legal and move on to more important things and maybe stop talking about it so much
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Post by: Benja on July 07, 2014, 01:46:00 PM
I am all for legalizing most drugs, but that 6 month crime rate statistic is completely meaningless.

probably shouldn't legalize physically addicting drugs.
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Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on July 07, 2014, 01:58:04 PM
I am all for legalizing most drugs, but that 6 month crime rate statistic is completely meaningless.

probably shouldn't legalize physically addicting drugs.

Do you mean prescription pills?
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Post by: Benja on July 07, 2014, 02:05:39 PM
I am all for legalizing most drugs, but that 6 month crime rate statistic is completely meaningless.

probably shouldn't legalize physically addicting drugs.

Do you mean prescription pills?

prolly shouldn't be giving so many of those out, either.
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Post by: Cire on July 07, 2014, 02:13:06 PM
are banks doing business with them yet?
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Post by: wetwillie on July 07, 2014, 02:17:18 PM
Quote from: dirty racist
Another would be the demographics shift of Pueblo County, one of the early counties to implement recreational


is this a racial thing or a socioeconomic thing?
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Post by: star seed 7 on July 07, 2014, 05:19:29 PM
Quote from: dirty racist
Another would be the demographics shift of Pueblo County, one of the early counties to implement recreational


is this a racial thing or a socioeconomic thing?

Why do you assume he's racist?

(I took it as dirty hippies moving to colorado)
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 08, 2014, 05:11:38 AM
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101816232

If this activity continues on the trajectory it's on, we're looking at potentially streams going dry, streams that harbor endangered fish species like salmon, steelhead," said Scott Bauer of the California Department of Fish and Wildlife.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 08, 2014, 10:46:48 AM
Hey guys, have I told you about my experience in dealing with long term habitual pot users?
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 08, 2014, 10:47:18 AM
Hey guys, have I told you about my experience in dealing with long term habitual pot users?
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 08, 2014, 10:47:38 AM
Hey guys, have I told you about my experience in dealing with long term habitual pot users?
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Post by: puniraptor on July 08, 2014, 10:53:01 AM
dax, can you dax us your story about long term habitual pot users?
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Post by: puniraptor on July 08, 2014, 10:53:28 AM
is it just the short term memory joke you made?
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 08, 2014, 11:04:56 AM
Guys, have I told you about my personal experience in associating with long term habitual pot users?

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Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2014, 11:05:45 AM
:lol:
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Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2014, 11:06:05 AM
:excited: I think dax is joking, you guys! :lol:
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Post by: puniraptor on July 08, 2014, 11:06:46 AM
i think he really has experience with long term habitual pot users that he wants to share with us in his own way :users:
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 08, 2014, 11:07:35 AM
Maybe I told you this already . . .
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 08, 2014, 11:07:58 AM
I think Dax might have smoked pot during his experience with the habitual pot smokers and now he is addicted and can't remember crap.
Title: Re: CO
Post by: puniraptor on July 08, 2014, 11:09:27 AM
is he referring to some anecdote on page one? I'm not going back to check, but i think that might be it
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Post by: asava on July 08, 2014, 11:32:58 AM
Guys, Colorado is pretty great right now.
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Post by: puniraptor on July 08, 2014, 12:34:44 PM
Guys, Colorado is pretty great right now.

how many mass shootings since pot was legalized?
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Post by: asava on July 08, 2014, 03:00:05 PM
Guys, Colorado is pretty great right now.

how many mass shootings since pot was legalized?

not near as many as the recent surge in hammer attacks.
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 08, 2014, 04:47:21 PM
is he referring to some anecdote on page one? I'm not going back to check, but i think that might be it

If you're referring to the one KK posted, I don't think so.