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Title: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on June 02, 2014, 05:56:14 PM
Kansas State 2014 regular season wins - conference championships & bowl games do not apply
Thu 8/28       30451 Kansas State total wins over 8½       -130              
6:00PM       30452 Kansas State total wins under 8½        -110

Over; Losses to Auburn, OU, Texas
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on June 02, 2014, 05:58:26 PM
I agree that the O8.5 is the play.  I think we beat UT in Manhattan, however.  Could drop another we shouldn't though.



Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: MouseRat on June 02, 2014, 06:05:42 PM
Foreseeable losses to OU, Auburn, and Baylor.  Waiting to see what TCU does this season.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: wetwillie on June 02, 2014, 06:06:52 PM
Danny sams is gone, I'm taking the under for sure. 
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: PowercatPat on June 02, 2014, 06:21:57 PM
Kansas State 2014 regular season wins - conference championships & bowl games do not apply
Thu 8/28       30451 Kansas State total wins over 8½       -130              
6:00PM       30452 Kansas State total wins under 8½        -110

Over; Losses to Auburn, OU, Texas

We're not losing to Texas in Manhattan.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: Pett on June 02, 2014, 06:38:39 PM
Nine or more wins or bust. This would be the year for it
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: scottwildcat on June 02, 2014, 06:42:46 PM
OVER


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Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on June 02, 2014, 06:50:12 PM
OVER


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I AGREE, SCOTTWILDCAT!
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: scottwildcat on June 02, 2014, 07:25:36 PM
OVER


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I AGREE, SCOTTWILDCAT!

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Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: puniraptor on June 02, 2014, 07:40:26 PM
WAY OVER OVER
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: slobber on June 02, 2014, 07:43:43 PM
..........


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 02, 2014, 07:44:27 PM
I got 10 wins and Jake in the final 10 for the Heisman.  :gocho:
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on June 02, 2014, 07:57:28 PM
10-3 at worst  12-2 at best.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: HerrSonntag on June 02, 2014, 08:05:00 PM
Natty
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: CyberToothCat on June 02, 2014, 08:31:02 PM
Danny sams is gone, I'm taking the under for sure.

Ditto
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: SPEmaw on June 02, 2014, 09:40:08 PM
Over
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 03, 2014, 12:19:12 AM
I'll get over you I know I will
I'll pretend my ships not sinking
And I'll tell myself I'm over you
Because I am the king of wishful thinking
Because I am the king of wishful thinking
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 03, 2014, 08:23:13 AM
Guys we're not going to be able to run the ball.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: SPEmaw on June 03, 2014, 08:35:03 AM
Guys we're not going to be able to run the ball.

Why do you think that?
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: DQ12 on June 03, 2014, 08:46:14 AM

Guys we're not going to be able to run the ball.
Why?  Because we have inexperienced running backs?

If Jake can pass like he's supposed to then the "box" should be pretty loose.  Couple that with our stud oline and we could be pretty well balanced.


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Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 03, 2014, 08:58:48 AM
It's a fear, maybe irrational fear of mine.  Klein or Hubert aren't running out of Vanier.  I don't see a Daniel Thomas type on the roster, either.  I just can't see where those yards we need are going to come from.  I'm afraid we might lean too much on Waters to run the ball and he's just going to get hurt. 
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: pissclams on June 03, 2014, 09:37:28 AM
because I'm a wildcat fan I have to assume we will experience a batcat like implosion starting, most likely, with a water's injury early in the season (100% probable since danny surface to air missiles left).

how anyone who's followed KSU cats can expect anything else is difficult to understand
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on June 03, 2014, 10:35:27 AM
Waters will be in the Heisman race in November.  :Wha:
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: TownieCat on June 03, 2014, 10:47:49 AM
Guys we're not going to be able to run the ball.

This. Under.  :frown:

But I think we'll win our bowl game again!  :D
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: scottwildcat on June 03, 2014, 11:10:45 AM

because I'm a wildcat fan I have to assume we will experience a batcat like implosion starting, most likely, with a water's injury early in the season (100% probable since danny surface to air missiles left).

how anyone who's followed KSU cats can expect anything else is difficult to understand

That is the poetry of being a Cat fan that even though we should know different we choose to ignore that and get our hopes up.


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Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 03, 2014, 11:19:36 AM
We've always had a back produce under Snyder. Name the last one that didn't? I'm not concerned about this.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 03, 2014, 11:39:57 AM
Under seems more likely to me, and I'm usually pretty optimistic about football. Lots of new faces and a few tough games on the schedule.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: MadCat on June 03, 2014, 01:00:35 PM
Bryce Brown  :dunno:
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: That_Guy on June 03, 2014, 01:28:55 PM


Guys we're not going to be able to run the ball.
Why?  Because we have inexperienced running backs?

If Jake can pass like he's supposed to then the "box" should be pretty loose.  Couple that with our stud oline and we could be pretty well balanced.


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This. If the line does it's job, we should be able to run the ball. The inexperience at RB factor is garbage.


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Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 03, 2014, 01:31:29 PM
Guys I hope I'm wrong.  :pray:

Curious what the SNOWBRAG says @mocat.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: SPEmaw on June 03, 2014, 01:33:14 PM


Guys we're not going to be able to run the ball.
Why?  Because we have inexperienced running backs?

If Jake can pass like he's supposed to then the "box" should be pretty loose.  Couple that with our stud oline and we could be pretty well balanced.


This. If the line does it's job, we should be able to run the ball. The inexperience at RB factor is garbage.

Yep. inexperience here doesn't matter. Would we prefer to have more experience returning? Of course, but it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: SPEmaw on June 03, 2014, 01:33:44 PM
Bryce Brown  :dunno:

We still had a productive back that season tho. Invalid point.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 03, 2014, 01:39:08 PM
Bryce Brown  :dunno:

We still had a productive back that season tho. Invalid point.
Not really. Nobody thought Hubert as a Freshman could carry the load. Klein helped in that manner, but still.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 03, 2014, 01:45:05 PM
I remember Darren Sproles having a rough 2004, but maybe he was better than I remember and my view is based more upon that team being so terrible.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: puniraptor on June 03, 2014, 01:45:52 PM
I remember Darren Sproles having a rough 2004, but maybe he was better than I remember and my view is based more upon that team being so terrible.

I think it should be pretty obvious that Darren was not the problem.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 03, 2014, 01:52:41 PM
I remember Darren Sproles having a rough 2004, but maybe he was better than I remember and my view is based more upon that team being so terrible.

I think it should be pretty obvious that Darren was not the problem.

No, he certainly wasn't. It was mostly the awful QBs and defense. Hubert wasn't as good last year as he was with Klein, though. Maybe the run game in Snyder's offense just doesn't work as well with a pocket passer unless the RB is a beast like Daniel Thomas.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on June 03, 2014, 02:00:54 PM
I expect our run game to be very serviceable.  The backs we currently have in the system are very comparable to JJ Smith, Hickson, Lawrence, etc from the days of May & Kavanaugh.

As long as our OL plays to a level somewhere near their capabilities, we should be able to keep the defenses honest with the balanced attack Coach desires.

Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 03, 2014, 03:22:06 PM
The OL kinda played like hot garbage last year though.  :ohno:
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: KITNfury on June 03, 2014, 04:10:21 PM
I remember Darren Sproles having a rough 2004, but maybe he was better than I remember and my view is based more upon that team being so terrible.

I think it should be pretty obvious that Darren was not the problem.

No, he certainly wasn't. It was mostly the awful QBs and defense. Hubert wasn't as good last year as he was with Klein, though. Maybe the run game in Snyder's offense just doesn't work as well with a pocket passer unless the RB is a beast like Daniel Thomas.

SEASON   ATT   YDS     AVG   
2013   198   1048  5.3   
2012   189   947     5.0   

 :dunno:
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 03, 2014, 04:21:14 PM
I remember Darren Sproles having a rough 2004, but maybe he was better than I remember and my view is based more upon that team being so terrible.

I think it should be pretty obvious that Darren was not the problem.

No, he certainly wasn't. It was mostly the awful QBs and defense. Hubert wasn't as good last year as he was with Klein, though. Maybe the run game in Snyder's offense just doesn't work as well with a pocket passer unless the RB is a beast like Daniel Thomas.

SEASON   ATT   YDS     AVG   
2013   198   1048  5.3   
2012   189   947     5.0   

 :dunno:
Yeah, that got me too.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 03, 2014, 04:53:57 PM
The 2013 stats are heavily influenced by the monster game he had against Kansas. I had forgotten how he kind of fell off the end of the earth at the end of 2012, though.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 03, 2014, 04:56:04 PM
The 2013 stats are heavily influenced by the monster game he had against Kansas. I had forgotten how he kind of fell off the end of the earth at the end of 2012, though.
Every running back has their stats influenced by a few games. That's not fair. He was a very solid back. Especially for what he was.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: cfbandyman on June 03, 2014, 05:40:57 PM
The 2013 stats are heavily influenced by the monster game he had against Kansas. I had forgotten how he kind of fell off the end of the earth at the end of 2012, though.
Every running back has their stats influenced by a few games. That's not fair. He was a very solid back. Especially for what he was.

Here's what he did each game last year:

             CAR    YDS
NDSU(L):  10       23
ULL(W):     18       56
UMASS(W): 18      118
TEX(L):    12       41
OSU(L):   7       30
BAY(L): 15       90
WVU(W):  19       86
ISU(W):     15       105
TTU(W): 23      157
TCU(W):    6       25
OU(L):   9         17
KU(W):   30       220
MICH(W): 15       90

While the Sam-Waters flip-flopping and TT and Lockett hurt affected the offense, it is noticeable at least to the me, the better Hubert did, the better the team did.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: DQ12 on June 03, 2014, 06:52:29 PM
My machine (insanely accurate btw) is in maintenance until June or July.
Lookin like it's gonna be July, folks.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: slobber on June 03, 2014, 09:04:25 PM
My machine (insanely accurate btw) is in maintenance until June or July.
Lookin like it's gonna be July, folks.
Would love to try to help you get that bad boy up and running...
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: #LIFE on June 03, 2014, 09:09:33 PM
8-5 if we're lucky.  You dumbasses have way too much confidence in a QB that would rather be in Ames
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on June 13, 2014, 09:00:50 PM
Kansas State 2014 regular season wins - conference championships & bowl games do not apply
Thu 8/28       30451 Kansas State total wins over 8½       -130              
6:00PM       30452 Kansas State total wins under 8½        -110

Over; Losses to Auburn, OU, Texas

Kansas State 2014 regular season wins - conference championships & bowl games do not apply
Sat 8/30       30455 Kansas State total wins over 8½       +145              
7:00PM       30456 Kansas State total wins under 8½        -185

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Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: Winters on June 14, 2014, 12:22:19 AM
I'm going to put my foot down and say 9 WINS
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: Tobias on June 14, 2014, 12:44:06 AM
FOOT DOWN!
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: Pete on June 14, 2014, 09:40:30 AM
Winters is really laying his foot (feet?) on the line.
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: Winters on June 14, 2014, 11:23:53 AM
Winters is really laying his foot (feet?) on the line.
Yes, just the one foot.  :ksu: :ksu:
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: scottwildcat on June 14, 2014, 04:20:00 PM

Winters is really laying his foot (feet?) on the line.
Yes, just the one foot.  :ksu: :ksu:

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Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: kslim on June 14, 2014, 05:36:02 PM
Nobody here knows what Texas will be. Ou on the road is winnable and eff Baylor

11-1 in the playoffs mother rough riders
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: kim carnes on June 14, 2014, 06:44:00 PM
We've always had a back produce under Snyder. Name the last one that didn't? I'm not concerned about this.

Yep, Snyder's backs always have great production*

*unless we're playing a good team
Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: KITNfury on June 14, 2014, 07:00:48 PM

Winters is really laying his foot (feet?) on the line.
Yes, just the one foot.  :ksu: :ksu:

:love:


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Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: scottwildcat on June 14, 2014, 07:45:21 PM


Winters is really laying his foot (feet?) on the line.
Yes, just the one foot.  :ksu: :ksu:

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Title: Re: O/U 8.5 wins
Post by: KITNfury on June 14, 2014, 08:11:58 PM


Winters is really laying his foot (feet?) on the line.
Yes, just the one foot.  :ksu: :ksu:

:love:


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