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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: fatty fat fat on April 07, 2010, 12:58:02 AM
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compare to other units in the big 12 north.
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our units -> _ = <-"their" units
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I think our O-Line could be one of the better ones in the Big 12. Toss in a 6-8 280lb tight end up front blocking and they could be quite formidable.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWmauW6PAkU&NR=1
needless to say we will be a great 2nd half team :gocho:
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Well....Tate Snyder at LB = Best in the linebacking core in Big 12
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O-line is one of the best.. Best RB in the conference. good depth, but young at RB ..
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Ranks in big 12:
QB-12
RB-2
WR/TE-8
OL-4
DL-8
LB-12
DB-12
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QB - bottom 4
OL - top 4
RB - top 4
WR - bottom 4
TE - ?
DT - bottom 4
DE - bottom 4
LB - bottom 4
DB - bottom 4
kicker - top 6
KR/PR - top 6
I have no basis for any of these rankings.
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team speed - bottom 4
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kind of a personal question if you ask me...
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I usually just :users: the message boards and stuff without any roster analysis.....so are we really going to have one of the best o-lines in the conference? If so, we should bowl no matter what considering we'll have a monster running back. This could be nullified if we have one of the worst defenses, I guess.
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I think our O-Line could be one of the better ones in the Big 12. Toss in a 6-8 280lb tight end up front blocking and they could be quite formidable.
We also now have 200+ lb wide receivers available for blocking as well as a FB. Running game should be decent.
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I like having a good OL and great RB; looking forward to leading the nation in TOP.
Very SLTH-y football philosophy, but if we can steal a win or two using it I'll take it.
Hopefully Snyder can Doc up some football games.
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Having our offense on the Field 35 minutes a game will make our defense look waaaaayyy better than it really is. I'm fairly confident we have one of the best O-Lines and RB's in the conf. Bring on the 8 man fronts and we'll Okoye right over them. QB and WR unknowns leave me thinking passing is highly unlikely on most downs.
Defense is much like the Royals. If a bunch of sh*t clicks, and a bunch of guys "break-out" we should be really good. This translates into a 1/35 chance of being worth a damn (based on the Royals one decent season in the last 35).
Our kicker and punter are both huge p^ssies, which means they're just like all the other K's & P's in the conf. However, they also suck at their respective positions so we'll probably lose one game just b/c of them, ala LaLa. <-- bitchin rhyme
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Having our offense on the Field 35 minutes a game will make our defense look waaaaayyy better than it really is. I'm fairly confident we have one of the best O-Lines and RB's in the conf. Bring on the 8 man fronts and we'll Okoye right over them. QB and WR unknowns leave me thinking passing is highly unlikely on most downs.
Hopefully a QB steps up that can throw the ball more than 30 yards and a reciever with speed. The GPC article on Brod Smith talks about how he is one of that fastest on the team and sub-4.4. It would be nice if we can actually stretch defenses this year with him and others at WR to take advantage of teams putting 9 and 10 in the box.
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Having our offense on the Field 35 minutes a game will make our defense look waaaaayyy better than it really is. I'm fairly confident we have one of the best O-Lines and RB's in the conf. Bring on the 8 man fronts and we'll Okoye right over them. QB and WR unknowns leave me thinking passing is highly unlikely on most downs.
Hopefully a QB steps up that can throw the ball more than 30 yards and a reciever with speed. The GPC article on Brod Smith talks about how he is one of that fastest on the team and sub-4.4. It would be nice if we can actually stretch defenses this year with him and others at WR to take advantage of teams putting 9 and 10 in the box.
With that guys size, and if he really runs a 4.4 :love: Won't need an accurate passer, just a guy that can throw 30+ yard lobs that actually stay in bounds.
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Having our offense on the Field 35 minutes a game will make our defense look waaaaayyy better than it really is. I'm fairly confident we have one of the best O-Lines and RB's in the conf. Bring on the 8 man fronts and we'll Okoye right over them. QB and WR unknowns leave me thinking passing is highly unlikely on most downs.
Hopefully a QB steps up that can throw the ball more than 30 yards and a reciever with speed. The GPC article on Brod Smith talks about how he is one of that fastest on the team and sub-4.4. It would be nice if we can actually stretch defenses this year with him and others at WR to take advantage of teams putting 9 and 10 in the box.
i know bill will want to run the clock, but if the D is as bad as I think it is, coupled with a schedule that is entirely more difficult than last year, our O is going to have to throw it a bit more, which will probably lead to less TOP and more D on the field.
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Having our offense on the Field 35 minutes a game will make our defense look waaaaayyy better than it really is. I'm fairly confident we have one of the best O-Lines and RB's in the conf. Bring on the 8 man fronts and we'll Okoye right over them. QB and WR unknowns leave me thinking passing is highly unlikely on most downs.
Hopefully a QB steps up that can throw the ball more than 30 yards and a reciever with speed. The GPC article on Brod Smith talks about how he is one of that fastest on the team and sub-4.4. It would be nice if we can actually stretch defenses this year with him and others at WR to take advantage of teams putting 9 and 10 in the box.
With that guys size, and if he really runs a 4.4 :love: Won't need an accurate passer, just a guy that can throw 30+ yard lobs that actually stay in bounds.
The only thing that gives me hope about our passing game, really. Beasley was able to produce a 1,000-yard receiver in '99 with one good shoulder simply because said receiver was so damn good. If Brod Smith is truly an elite difference-maker and not simply "good", my concerns about the QB go down substantially (unless Carson is playing :flush:).
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Having our offense on the Field 35 minutes a game will make our defense look waaaaayyy better than it really is. I'm fairly confident we have one of the best O-Lines and RB's in the conf. Bring on the 8 man fronts and we'll Okoye right over them. QB and WR unknowns leave me thinking passing is highly unlikely on most downs.
Hopefully a QB steps up that can throw the ball more than 30 yards and a reciever with speed. The GPC article on Brod Smith talks about how he is one of that fastest on the team and sub-4.4. It would be nice if we can actually stretch defenses this year with him and others at WR to take advantage of teams putting 9 and 10 in the box.
i know bill will want to run the clock, but if the D is as bad as I think it is, coupled with a schedule that is entirely more difficult than last year, our O is going to have to throw it a bit more, which will probably lead to less TOP and more D on the field.
not sure it really is - seems like everyone in the conf will be craptier, OOC is slightly harder I guess, not from a w/l standpoint though
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Our LB's are going to be beyond pathetic. I can't believe I will miss John Houlik.
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To answer fats' question, I'd say + or - 5 rubles.
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i think our unis will look ok this year probably just back to the same old style sny........ oh wait, units?... no idea
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I think that the key to success this year is our D-Line. Our linebackers are beyond pathetic, and our DBs aren't very good either, but if you can get a pass rush with the front four, you can mask a lot of problems elsewhere, especially against non-elite teams (we only play one). We return Harold, and we recruited like a bazillion D-Linemen, so if we can put out a front four that isn't pathetic, I think that we can have our best team since 2003 (not saying much). I'm not worried about the offense, but maybe I'm too optimistic about Harper, Smith, and an unproven QB.
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Having our offense on the Field 35 minutes a game will make our defense look waaaaayyy better than it really is. I'm fairly confident we have one of the best O-Lines and RB's in the conf. Bring on the 8 man fronts and we'll Okoye right over them. QB and WR unknowns leave me thinking passing is highly unlikely on most downs.
Hopefully a QB steps up that can throw the ball more than 30 yards and a reciever with speed. The GPC article on Brod Smith talks about how he is one of that fastest on the team and sub-4.4. It would be nice if we can actually stretch defenses this year with him and others at WR to take advantage of teams putting 9 and 10 in the box.
If Brod runs a sub 4.4, that is unfortunate. The problem is that none of our QBs have the combination of delivery speed and throw power to get the ball to a receiver who runs faster than 4.48.
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God help us! :bang:
Snyder indicated sophomore Collin Klein and senior Carson Coffman have pulled ahead of junior Sammuel Lamur in the battle for K-State's starting quarterback job, though the issue is not settled.
"I think maybe Carson and Collin have kind of separated themselves a little bit from Sammuel, but we certainly won't give up on Sammuel just because he doesn't have the experience," Snyder said
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Please god don't let Carson start
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God help us! :bang:
Snyder indicated sophomore Collin Klein and senior Carson Coffman have pulled ahead of junior Sammuel Lamur in the battle for K-State's starting quarterback job, though the issue is not settled.
"I think maybe Carson and Collin have kind of separated themselves a little bit from Sammuel, but we certainly won't give up on Sammuel just because he doesn't have the experience," Snyder said
Someone has to "push" Klein.
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:pray: that Coffman is QB3
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I'm thinkin its time we become resigned to the fact that Carson will be the starter. I mean we know the coach don't we?
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God help us! :bang:
Snyder indicated sophomore Collin Klein and senior Carson Coffman have pulled ahead of junior Sammuel Lamur in the battle for K-State's starting quarterback job, though the issue is not settled.
"I think maybe Carson and Collin have kind of separated themselves a little bit from Sammuel, but we certainly won't give up on Sammuel just because he doesn't have the experience," Snyder said
Classic Snyds here guys. He's just making it so teams (who are no doubt already scouting us) prepare for a stand up untalented QB and then BAM we hit them with a running, Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) QB.
Pick your poison UCLA.
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Exactly Paul! Exactly!
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i'm pulling for you carson. you can do it.
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i'm pulling for you carson. you can do it.
you are probably just happy we won't have a gay QB.
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i'm pulling for you carson. you can do it.
you are probably just happy we won't have a gay QB.
why would i care about whether someone is attracted to males or females? weird.
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i'm pulling for you carson. you can do it.
you are probably just happy we won't have a gay QB.
why would i care about whether someone is attracted to males or females? weird.
seem to remember something from previous threads...could be wrong.
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i'm pulling for you carson. you can do it.
you are probably just happy we won't have a gay QB.
why would i care about whether someone is attracted to males or females? weird.
seem to remember something from previous threads...could be wrong.
yeah. not me. whether or not some guy wants to make out w/ another guy is not on the list of things that i worry about.
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i'm pulling for you carson. you can do it.
you are probably just happy we won't have a gay QB.
why would i care about whether someone is attracted to males or females? weird.
seem to remember something from previous threads...could be wrong.
yeah. not me. whether or not some guy wants to make out w/ another guy is not on the list of things that i worry about.
i honestly thought that it would bother most kstate fans that gregory is obviously gay. good to see that it doesn't/hasn't. i may have underestimated ksu fans here. who cares. gmafb.
yeah, i misinterpreted this quote way back when. I kinda feel bad about it. All this time. Sorry bro.
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God help us! :bang:
Snyder indicated sophomore Collin Klein and senior Carson Coffman have pulled ahead of junior Sammuel Lamur in the battle for K-State's starting quarterback job, though the issue is not settled.
"I think maybe Carson and Collin have kind of separated themselves a little bit from Sammuel, but we certainly won't give up on Sammuel just because he doesn't have the experience," Snyder said
Given the fact that all 3 options seem to suck, I'd rather they give the starting job to whoever does best in Spring, even if it is Coffman.
However, I'd prefer that person not be a Senior so we don't have to do this sh*t all over again next year. :flush:
:pray: we run the ball 75% of the time and DT doesn't get hurt
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Priorities (in order) for QB job next year.
1) Ability to throw vertical routes.
2) Ability to check at the LOS.
3) Ability to run the football.
4) Ability to make good decisions/not throw INTs.
JMHO.
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Priorities (in order) for QB job next year.
1) Ability to throw vertical routes.
2) Ability to check at the LOS.
3) Ability to run the football.
4) Ability to make good decisions/not throw INTs.
JMHO.
is that your opinion or your opinion on what snyd's is looking for?
Semantics I suppose, but IMO #2 should be #4 and then move up #3 and #4 a spot. Snyder's magical matrix of audibles can be summed up as follows: when in doubt, check to the option.
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Priorities (in order) for QB job next year.
1) Ability to throw vertical routes.
2) Ability to check at the LOS.
3) Ability to run the football.
4) Ability to make good decisions/not throw INTs.
JMHO.
is that your opinion or your opinion on what snyd's is looking for?
Semantics I suppose, but IMO #2 should be #4 and then move up #3 and #4 a spot. Snyder's magical matrix of audibles can be summed up as follows: when in doubt, check to the option.
That's my opinion.
I put checking up there b/c I think it will be on the QB to check to verticals, or different run schemes (not just option) based on different looks this year. Teams are going to throw all kinds of stuff at us b/c a) whoever is QB will be inexperienced and b) teams will have to try lots of different wrinkles to stop Thompson. He's good enough that even when you have a good defense called he can still hurt you, so that will cause DCs to take more chances IMO.
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Priorities (in order) for QB job next year.
1) Ability to throw vertical routes.
2) Ability to check at the LOS.
3) Ability to run the football.
4) Ability to make good decisions/not throw INTs.
JMHO.
Very apt that "not getting Delay of Game penalties" didn't crack your list.
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Priorities (in order) for QB job next year.
1) Ability to throw vertical routes.
2) Ability to check at the LOS.
3) Ability to run the football.
4) Ability to make good decisions/not throw INTs.
JMHO.
Very apt that "not getting Delay of Game penalties" didn't crack your list.
Loosely, that probably falls into #2.
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i'm pulling for you carson. you can do it.
STFU
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If Carson does win it, it will be like last season. Suck balls first two games then he gets replaced. Idc if Slamur is dumb as eff, just get him on the field. Black, agile, and stuff. Just tell him "sam run left and if your going to get tackled PITCH IT TO ME!
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If we start Carson in the opener, it's just an admission right from the beginning that there's no chance of winning this season. Would just be terribly depressing.
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I know were really thin at WR but why can't Harps just play QB :frown:
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Heard he was a tertible passer, but idc. Out him n the shotgun n just run the oPtion
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If we start Carson in the opener, it's just an admission right from the beginning that there's no chance of winning this season. Would just be terribly depressing.
Maybe 3 wins season, :facepalm: