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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 29, 2014, 10:03:03 AM
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1st quarter gdp revised to a 1% contraction.
Thank goodness Kansas has been somewhat shielded from these sad economic times.
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Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 2h
#ObummerEconomy turns south...negative GDP of -1.0% http://goo.gl/43Xr28 #Obamanomics
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A rough ridin' congressman is tweeting obummer :lol:
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A rough ridin' congressman is tweeting obummer :lol:
Basically every tweet of his ever is similar.
He is a great rep for KS. I mean, those guys at sonic with assault rifles are really :emawkid: about his twitter.
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PNC Chief Economist Stuart Hoffman wrote, “I believe this real GDP decline, mostly due to the polar vortex"
Global warming confirmed.
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Looks like Barry Care may finish us off for good after all
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-2.9!
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the posters on this board are recession proof just FWIW.
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The Obama presidency has been a trainwreck on just about every level imaginable.
I sometimes try to think what even liberals would view as "accomplishments" (he is still polling at 40% and is unlikely to drop much further). Here's what I've come up with:
- First black president (this honestly seems to be the most important and redeeming aspect of the Obama presidency to liberals)
- Advancing gay rights (a very close second)
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- Two reliably liberal SC picks.
- Helping to grow the future Dem base through unfettered illegal immigration
- Obamacare (not sure if many liberals actually believe this is a good thing)?
I mean, 8 years and that's what we got at the cost of more than doubling our national debt, a stagnant economy, a world that's even more dangerous and unstable than before, and badly diminished global influence.
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Got us out of iraq
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The Obama presidency has been a trainwreck on just about every level imaginable.
I sometimes try to think what even liberals would view as "accomplishments" (he is still polling at 40% and is unlikely to drop much further). Here's what I've come up with:
- First black president (this honestly seems to be the most important and redeeming aspect of the Obama presidency to liberals)
- Advancing gay rights (a very close second)
...
- Two reliably liberal SC picks.
- Helping to grow the future Dem base through unfettered illegal immigration
- Obamacare (not sure if many liberals actually believe this is a good thing)?
I mean, 8 years and that's what we got at the cost of more than doubling our national debt, a stagnant economy, a world that's even more dangerous and unstable than before, and badly diminished global influence.
Why do you just assume these immigrants are going to vote dem?
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Got us out of iraq
The drawdown in troop levels began under Bush. Obama just finished the job, pulling out all troops without negotiating a status of forces agreement, and that's working out just peachy, isn't it? But you're right, liberals probably do view this as an Obama "accomplishment." In fact, just a few years ago Joe Biden said that Iraq would be viewed as one of Obama's "greatest achievements." :lol:
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The Obama presidency has been a trainwreck on just about every level imaginable.
I sometimes try to think what even liberals would view as "accomplishments" (he is still polling at 40% and is unlikely to drop much further). Here's what I've come up with:
- First black president (this honestly seems to be the most important and redeeming aspect of the Obama presidency to liberals)
- Advancing gay rights (a very close second)
...
- Two reliably liberal SC picks.
- Helping to grow the future Dem base through unfettered illegal immigration
- Obamacare (not sure if many liberals actually believe this is a good thing)?
I mean, 8 years and that's what we got at the cost of more than doubling our national debt, a stagnant economy, a world that's even more dangerous and unstable than before, and badly diminished global influence.
Why do you just assume these immigrants are going to vote dem?
Because they are overwhelmingly impoverished, and the impoverished overwhelmingly vote Democrat. They will vote for the party that will buy their votes with welfare and amnesty.
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The Obama presidency has been a trainwreck on just about every level imaginable.
I sometimes try to think what even liberals would view as "accomplishments" (he is still polling at 40% and is unlikely to drop much further). Here's what I've come up with:
- First black president (this honestly seems to be the most important and redeeming aspect of the Obama presidency to liberals)
- Advancing gay rights (a very close second)
...
- Two reliably liberal SC picks.
- Helping to grow the future Dem base through unfettered illegal immigration
- Obamacare (not sure if many liberals actually believe this is a good thing)?
I mean, 8 years and that's what we got at the cost of more than doubling our national debt, a stagnant economy, a world that's even more dangerous and unstable than before, and badly diminished global influence.
Why do you just assume these immigrants are going to vote dem?
Because they are overwhelmingly impoverished, and the impoverished overwhelmingly vote Democrat. They will vote for the party that will buy their votes with welfare and amnesty.
The South?
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The Obama presidency has been a trainwreck on just about every level imaginable.
I sometimes try to think what even liberals would view as "accomplishments" (he is still polling at 40% and is unlikely to drop much further). Here's what I've come up with:
- First black president (this honestly seems to be the most important and redeeming aspect of the Obama presidency to liberals)
- Advancing gay rights (a very close second)
...
- Two reliably liberal SC picks.
- Helping to grow the future Dem base through unfettered illegal immigration
- Obamacare (not sure if many liberals actually believe this is a good thing)?
I mean, 8 years and that's what we got at the cost of more than doubling our national debt, a stagnant economy, a world that's even more dangerous and unstable than before, and badly diminished global influence.
Why do you just assume these immigrants are going to vote dem?
Because they are overwhelmingly impoverished, and the impoverished overwhelmingly vote Democrat. They will vote for the party that will buy their votes with welfare and amnesty.
The South?
2012 Election Voting by Demographic:
- Whites: 39% D, 59% R
- Blacks: 93% D, 6% R
- Hispanic: 71% D, 27% R
<$50k: 60% D, 37% R
Poor and Minority: 90% D, 10% R (I made this last one up, but I bet it's pretty close)
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So the republicans already have nearly 30% of the Hispanic vote despite every effort to lose it? That is pretty good, if you ask me. Maybe they should stop villainizing immigration so they have a chance at winning that demographic.
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So the republicans already have nearly 30% of the Hispanic vote despite every effort to lose it? That is pretty good, if you ask me. Maybe they should stop villainizing immigration so they have a chance at winning that demographic.
Gasp, secure the borders tho
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So the republicans already have nearly 30% of the Hispanic vote despite every effort to lose it? That is pretty good, if you ask me. Maybe they should stop villainizing immigration so they have a chance at winning that demographic.
You don't seem to be understanding the numbers above. The Republicans have no (realistic) chance of ever "winning" that demographic because they will never be able to out-pander the Democrats. Even if Republicans were to get, say, 45% of that demographic, it's a net loss.
So if by "stop villianizing" you mean adopting an open borders and amnesty, that's a recipe for suicide for the Republican party (also the country, by the way, which is already dead-ass broke, but that's another matter).
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So the republicans already have nearly 30% of the Hispanic vote despite every effort to lose it? That is pretty good, if you ask me. Maybe they should stop villainizing immigration so they have a chance at winning that demographic.
You don't seem to be understanding the numbers above. The Republicans have no (realistic) chance of ever "winning" that demographic because they will never be able to out-pander the Democrats. Even if Republicans were to get, say, 45% of that demographic, it's a net loss.
So if by "stop villianizing" you mean adopting an open borders and amnesty, that's a recipe for suicide for the Republican party (also the country, by the way, which is already dead-ass broke, but that's another matter).
Maybe they could make it possible for the typical hard-working Mexican citizen who is vital to the US economy to obtain citizenship.
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So the republicans already have nearly 30% of the Hispanic vote despite every effort to lose it? That is pretty good, if you ask me. Maybe they should stop villainizing immigration so they have a chance at winning that demographic.
The Hispanics that have immigrated to the US legally over many years are for the most part opposed to abortion and illegal immigration, and are proud of their accomplishments.
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Turns out, the dramatic revision to GDP from a .1% increase to a 2.9% decrease is just due to moving Obamacare money around.
As this ZeroHedge article (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-25/here-reason-total-collapse-q1-gdp) explains, healthcare spending increased by a staggering $40 billion last quarter, which is the only reason why last quarter initially posted any increase in GDP at all, albeit a measly .1%. Now, that money has been magically moved from Q1 to Q2, resulting in the downward revision to Q1. They're just moving the money around - money that wouldn't even be spent but for Obamacare. And what do you think moving that money into Q2 will do for GDP (right before the election)? :whistle1:
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If you can't believe Tyler Durden...
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If you can't believe Tyler Durden...
What is this role you've decided to assume in the Pit? You've become a chatty Cathy doll reflexively spewing the same boring retorts.
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I made this last one up, but I bet it's pretty close.
if only real pubs were as honest.
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If you can't believe Tyler Durden...
What is this role you've decided to assume in the Pit? You've become a chatty Cathy doll reflexively spewing the same boring retorts.
The role of non-huge dork
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So the republicans already have nearly 30% of the Hispanic vote despite every effort to lose it? That is pretty good, if you ask me. Maybe they should stop villainizing immigration so they have a chance at winning that demographic.
The Hispanics that have immigrated to the US legally over many years are for the most part opposed to abortion and illegal immigration, and are proud of their accomplishments.
Exactly. If the republicans would just work to make it easier to get into the US legally, then they would gain votes. Why don't they do that? It would be good for the US economy and just the right thing to do in general.
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So the republicans already have nearly 30% of the Hispanic vote despite every effort to lose it? That is pretty good, if you ask me. Maybe they should stop villainizing immigration so they have a chance at winning that demographic.
The Hispanics that have immigrated to the US legally over many years are for the most part opposed to abortion and illegal immigration, and are proud of their accomplishments.
Exactly. If the republicans would just work to make it easier to get into the US legally, then they would gain votes. Why don't they do that? It would be good for the US economy and just the right thing to do in general.
Um, many Republicans are working to make it easier to get into the United States. But, because they actually want, you know, a process. A process that, you know, makes sense, and still leans heavily towards actually protecting our borders and thus our national security. Many are labeling them . . . because they aren't all in on just throwing open the gates and letting anyone walk in and pretty much do whatever they want. Particularly knowing that they're walking in from countries and through countries which are basically banana republic hell holes filled with really, really bad people who are trying to export their badness into this country and who may be doing business with other really, really bad people.
But hey, it looks like this administration prefers chaos, upheaval and crisis. Never let a good crisis go to waste . . . amirite?
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So the republicans already have nearly 30% of the Hispanic vote despite every effort to lose it? That is pretty good, if you ask me. Maybe they should stop villainizing immigration so they have a chance at winning that demographic.
The Hispanics that have immigrated to the US legally over many years are for the most part opposed to abortion and illegal immigration, and are proud of their accomplishments.
Exactly. If the republicans would just work to make it easier to get into the US legally, then they would gain votes. Why don't they do that? It would be good for the US economy and just the right thing to do in general.
Um, many Republicans are working to make it easier to get into the United States. But, because they actually want, you know, a process. A process that, you know, makes sense, and still leans heavily towards actually protecting our borders and thus our national security. Many are labeling them . . . because they aren't all in on just throwing open the gates and letting anyone walk in and pretty much do whatever they want. Particularly knowing that they're walking in from countries and through countries which are basically banana republic hell holes filled with really, really bad people who are trying to export their badness into this country and who may be doing business with other really, really bad people.
But hey, it looks like this administration prefers chaos, upheaval and crisis. Never let a good crisis go to waste . . . amirite?
How long have they been working on it and what progress has been made? At what point do we just assume that they don't really care about the issue and are just using it as a campaign talking point?
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What difference does it make how long Rage, the R leadership is pretty much going to roll right along with Amnesty.
It's all about political gain, not common sense.
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So the republicans already have nearly 30% of the Hispanic vote despite every effort to lose it? That is pretty good, if you ask me. Maybe they should stop villainizing immigration so they have a chance at winning that demographic.
The Hispanics that have immigrated to the US legally over many years are for the most part opposed to abortion and illegal immigration, and are proud of their accomplishments.
Exactly. If the republicans would just work to make it easier to get into the US legally, then they would gain votes. Why don't they do that? It would be good for the US economy and just the right thing to do in general.
Um, many Republicans are working to make it easier to get into the United States. But, because they actually want, you know, a process. A process that, you know, makes sense, and still leans heavily towards actually protecting our borders and thus our national security. Many are labeling them . . . because they aren't all in on just throwing open the gates and letting anyone walk in and pretty much do whatever they want. Particularly knowing that they're walking in from countries and through countries which are basically banana republic hell holes filled with really, really bad people who are trying to export their badness into this country and who may be doing business with other really, really bad people.
But hey, it looks like this administration prefers chaos, upheaval and crisis. Never let a good crisis go to waste . . . amirite?
How long have they been working on it and what progress has been made? At what point do we just assume that they don't really care about the issue and are just using it as a campaign talking point?
If you'll recall, they almost had it under Bush, but it fell apart because they made the mistake of not requiring true border security before the other provisions kicked in, and true border security was more difficult to ensure than it is now.
Significant advances in technology - drones - now make it possible to provide much more accurate and comprehensive surveillance of the southern border, and this security can be paid for by guest worker permits (ideally, the proceeds from the permits would be divided between the Feds and the states where the permits are granted to help pay for both the enhanced border security, employee ID verification, and welfare usage). However, this isn't going to happen again until the stars align for Republicans to retake the House, Senate, and WH. Why? Because no "compromise" with Dems will ever include true border security. That would defeat their objectives.
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Happy 4th of July from Wall Street!
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http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/7/3/employment-figuresjune.html
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So the republicans already have nearly 30% of the Hispanic vote despite every effort to lose it? That is pretty good, if you ask me. Maybe they should stop villainizing immigration so they have a chance at winning that demographic.
The Hispanics that have immigrated to the US legally over many years are for the most part opposed to abortion and illegal immigration, and are proud of their accomplishments.
Exactly. If the republicans would just work to make it easier to get into the US legally, then they would gain votes. Why don't they do that? It would be good for the US economy and just the right thing to do in general.
Um, many Republicans are working to make it easier to get into the United States. But, because they actually want, you know, a process. A process that, you know, makes sense, and still leans heavily towards actually protecting our borders and thus our national security. Many are labeling them . . . because they aren't all in on just throwing open the gates and letting anyone walk in and pretty much do whatever they want. Particularly knowing that they're walking in from countries and through countries which are basically banana republic hell holes filled with really, really bad people who are trying to export their badness into this country and who may be doing business with other really, really bad people.
But hey, it looks like this administration prefers chaos, upheaval and crisis. Never let a good crisis go to waste . . . amirite?
How long have they been working on it and what progress has been made? At what point do we just assume that they don't really care about the issue and are just using it as a campaign talking point?
If you'll recall, they almost had it under Bush, but it fell apart because they made the mistake of not requiring true border security before the other provisions kicked in, and true border security was more difficult to ensure than it is now.
Significant advances in technology - drones - now make it possible to provide much more accurate and comprehensive surveillance of the southern border, and this security can be paid for by guest worker permits (ideally, the proceeds from the permits would be divided between the Feds and the states where the permits are granted to help pay for both the enhanced border security, employee ID verification, and welfare usage). However, this isn't going to happen again until the stars align for Republicans to retake the House, Senate, and WH. Why? Because no "compromise" with Dems will ever include true border security. That would defeat their objectives.
Welfare usage?
Illegals can't legally get welfare. It's a fact
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So the republicans already have nearly 30% of the Hispanic vote despite every effort to lose it? That is pretty good, if you ask me. Maybe they should stop villainizing immigration so they have a chance at winning that demographic.
The Hispanics that have immigrated to the US legally over many years are for the most part opposed to abortion and illegal immigration, and are proud of their accomplishments.
Exactly. If the republicans would just work to make it easier to get into the US legally, then they would gain votes. Why don't they do that? It would be good for the US economy and just the right thing to do in general.
Um, many Republicans are working to make it easier to get into the United States. But, because they actually want, you know, a process. A process that, you know, makes sense, and still leans heavily towards actually protecting our borders and thus our national security. Many are labeling them . . . because they aren't all in on just throwing open the gates and letting anyone walk in and pretty much do whatever they want. Particularly knowing that they're walking in from countries and through countries which are basically banana republic hell holes filled with really, really bad people who are trying to export their badness into this country and who may be doing business with other really, really bad people.
But hey, it looks like this administration prefers chaos, upheaval and crisis. Never let a good crisis go to waste . . . amirite?
How long have they been working on it and what progress has been made? At what point do we just assume that they don't really care about the issue and are just using it as a campaign talking point?
If you'll recall, they almost had it under Bush, but it fell apart because they made the mistake of not requiring true border security before the other provisions kicked in, and true border security was more difficult to ensure than it is now.
Significant advances in technology - drones - now make it possible to provide much more accurate and comprehensive surveillance of the southern border, and this security can be paid for by guest worker permits (ideally, the proceeds from the permits would be divided between the Feds and the states where the permits are granted to help pay for both the enhanced border security, employee ID verification, and welfare usage). However, this isn't going to happen again until the stars align for Republicans to retake the House, Senate, and WH. Why? Because no "compromise" with Dems will ever include true border security. That would defeat their objectives.
Welfare usage?
Illegals can't legally get welfare. It's a fact
Ha ha.
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http://www.vox.com/2014/7/8/5866695/why-printing-more-money-could-have-stopped-the-great-recession
pike will love this, if he reads it.